This guy is just amazing. I've been watching a lot of stuff an reading about the universe lately and I began to question my faith. I wondered how there could be a god with everything that science has found out. I read an article in discover about finding god in quantum physics. It got me thinking. Watching this now makes me positive that god exists. There ate soo many facts science has found that has proof in the bible to back it up! And that was written more than 2000 years ago! It just amazes
@christianblazer romans 1:20 states that people will be without excuse because we see God through his invisible attributes and divine nature by creation. Basically I know that creation is real bc I look at it everyday. And since His word says its true we truley will be without excuse.
The quote at the beginning of this clip has made such an impact on my life. That our "high view" of God defines us. It IS why we are here. Humbled by what is at stake here.
i wish there were people who thought like him in north carolina, everybody here has the same old baptist belief and im young an id like to view god as a universal god not just an earthly god.. i like the part were he was like it would take a 100 thousand years!! to get across the milky way haha that was epic man :))
Watch the "Awe Factor of God" first than watch this one...Wow! Awe Inspiring is right! Thanks Mr Chan for being inspired like this and thanks to all that shared/created this video and the "Awe Factor of God!
LOL U have No Understanding, its a joke u call yourself even a Scientist,
at 25:39 about the 10* and 11* bit, 11 God is the stong Delusion you believe is real,
really u dont want the real-truth thats why you believe a lie, God is the Lie,
whats a Dog in the most basicway, A Dog is a Beast, So God is the Beast your all told to believe in and Fear,God believers would be the Real-Beast Worshippers Not atheists, u love a lie, u believe a lie, u worship a lie, Created out of your Fear of Death
@RealityGameWorld What is God without a beast? What is man without a past?
God created dogs, for this reason specifically. So you can use what you have be given, to disprove (disobey) the infallible truth. Gamer, When you die you're taking nothing with you, it's the part after life that matters man, I and others are prayin'for you. And God Bless Bro.
And just so you know for certain, I'm a follower of our Christ I couldn't tell you this here and now if I believed there's nothing to believe in.
i'm a Muslim and all i want to say is god bless you :D and life just a test for our souls to get us in the sec life ,i thank god every day for giving me a chance
this guy stevenweir76 is on numerous Christian u-tube videos commenting... it's like the guy has really nothing else better to do. My suggestion is to just ignore him...keep him in silence, do NOT respond to his post...because all your doing is throwing your pearls to swine..Matthew 7:6
this guy stevenweir76 is on numerous Christian u-tube videos commenting... it's like the guy has really nothing else better to do. My suggestion is to just ignore him...keep him in silence, do NOT respond to his post...because all your doing is throwing your pearls to swine..Matthew 7:6
this guy stevenweir76 is on numerous Christian u-tube videos commenting... it's like the guy has really nothing else better to do. My suggestion is to just ignore him...keep him in silence, do NOT respond to his post...because all your doing is throwing your pearls to swine..Matthew 7:6
this guy stevenweir76 is on numerous Christian u-tube videos commenting... it's like the guy has really nothing else better to do. My suggestion is to just ignore him...keep him in silence, do NOT respond to his post...because all your doing is throwing your pearls to swine..Matthew 7:6
this guy stevenweir76 is on numerous Christian u-tube videos commenting... it's like the guy has really nothing else better to do. My suggestion is to just ignore him...keep him in silence, do NOT respond to his post...because all your doing is throwing your pearls to swine..Matthew 7:6
Religion and spirituality are 2 totally different things and I now that this is off track from the comments below but religion itself is something well to me i think god doesn't really appreciate all the rules but the rules are important, but really it's about a connection to something that changes who you are not only who you are but how people see you whether they totally disown you or get closer to you, im not a minister or anything im just a student that has a love for god
Why do people who don't believe in GOD spend so much of their time on these videos??? I mean, I understand the feeling of responding to someone who says something to you. But, why do you even bother looking at these videos and then spending so much time on them?? It's the same with ALL GOD inspired / related videos... You say all these things but you will NEVER change what a JESUS FOLLOWER thinks or feels? So why waste your time? Just let us Christians enjoy them
@Gordon1027 I think the reason why non-believers take the time to comment on these type videos is because whether they like it or not, they were born with a conscience and they know He IS (Rom 1:19-21). They spend their lives trying to convince themselves that He is folklore but they know. They do everything to dethrone Him. But you and I know that this will not work - amen? He ALONE is the God of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob. He ALONE is GOD; there's NO other - period. (Phil 1:27-28) ~ take care.
Why actually, that's not the reason at all. You christians are so funny! You think that we're spending our lives "trying to convince" ourselves? Nope! We worry not about religion and it's silly rules! We are on here to share the good news... freedom FROM religion! Now, I'm not an atheist myself, but I do believe that God has no religion nor sacred book (like the Bible).
@ScienceReasonBelief ROFL! That you're over here commenting as always, puts the lie to your comment! You're like little kids whistling in the dark but whistling will not save you. No - we know that YOU know because you folks ALWAYS come by to try to convince yourselves that the Truth is a lie. But no worries; there's an old saying, "he who laughs last, laughs BEST". And those that belong to Jesus Christ will have the last laugh - no doubt about it. ;-) You will eat every letter you've typed.
you're so silly! there's no lie to my comment... apparently you're not paying attention! or is it that you're just not very intelligent?
I'll tell you again because you obviously missed it. we non-believers comment for the same reason you christians proselyte... to share the good news that they don't have to believe in your silly fairy tales any longer!
and we don't whistle in the dark, or worry that we might be wrong. those are just silly stories you christians tell!
@ScienceReasonBelief You REALLY REALLY need to Read "More Than A Carpenter" by Josh McDowell. Powerful book about an atheist who thought the Bible wads just a novel....until he researched thoroughly and found he couldnt prove it false. Praise God!! I hope and pray your heart will be softened and you can try reading it
You REALLY REALLY need to read "Letter to a Christian Nation" by Sam Harris. Powerful book! One reviewer put it even better than I can... it "describes a moral and intellectual emergency precipitated by religious fantasies–misguided beliefs that create suffering, that rationalize violence, that have endangered our nation and our future." It shows how false Christianity really is. I hope that your heart will be softened and that you can open your mind to reason by reading it!
@ScienceReasonBelief Reasoning is what is hardening your heart. You cant have all the answers to creation- you are not God- you are just human. Product of dust>>What about Nephilim? 30 FOOT GIANTS more than 2,000 YEARS AGO>>>DISPROVES EVOLUTION>>>I CAN GO FOREVER :)
Oh and christianity is not a religion. Religion means bondage- CHRIST SET US FREE FROM BONDAGE THROUGH THE CROSS AND RESURRECTION!
Look it up in an encyclopedia. Christianity IS a religion, whether you like it or not.
You say reasoning is hardening my heart? Are you serious? So in order to be a Christian, I must suspend logic?
I've never said I had all the answers. But I do know a fake religion (christianity) when I see one!
While giants have been discovered from time to time, there's no evidence of Nephilim... just another bible fairy tale! And by the way, genetic mutation does not disprove evolution!
@ScienceReasonBelief That's the world view on it :) It is a relationship. No rules just moral standards and true freedom and purpose and meaning like nothing in this world can offer. By your limited knowledge on christianity it is very easy to see that you havent done enough thorough research to actually find it has already been historically proven. Of course there's evidence of Nephilim- stop listening to your professors and do your OWN research. You'll be very surprised as I was. God bless!!
"Professors"? I'm well beyond college age, kid. I DO do my own research. And you're a fool to think that I have a limited knowledge of christianity. As a former Asst Pastor, Sunday School teacher AND foreign missionary, I have studied the bible and christianity in depth. What's been historically proven is the myths that have been passed down... NOT that they're really from God.
@ScienceReasonBelief Sounds like you have some deep cuts and pain that causes you to react in such a defensive way. I dont know what happened to your life but GOD IS REAL and ALIVE and I have seen much evidence to back up that Jeus Christ lived, died and rose again. Also Saul of Tarsus is in the Encyclopedia Britannica but the secular book wont say how he changed to Paul the Apostle. It proves a supernatural transformation that caused him to stop killing christians and follow and proclaim Christ
"you have some deep cuts and pain"... ha ha you're kidding me! Don't be silly!
I know God is real and alive too, so apparently you're not paying attention... I'm not an atheist! But your belief about God and the historical person Jesus Christ is just your opinion, with no proof of it's validity. And simply because Saul is mentioned in the EB is not proof of anything... how silly.
Truth be told, I became much happier AFTER i left the mythology of christianity!
@ScienceReasonBelief Yes of course there is...Same timing as the Bible's documentation of his life...History and The Bible go hand in hand with all events. SO MUCH evidence, epigraphy, manuscripts and archaeological proves Jesus Christ was in fact a real person. "MORE THAN A CARPENTER" will change your life :)
@ScienceReasonBelief Of course you're happier after leaving christianity. Your sinful nature wants to do what you want and rule your world. Believing in philosophies that satisfy until the last 30 seconds of breath you have...you will no deep deep down inside you have no idea where you will go after you die. In JESUS CHRIST THERE IS TRUE HOPE and TRUE PURPOSE that surpasses all knowledge.
what baloney! you don't need christinity in order to be good! so don't go spouting off about "sinful nature". I happen to be a very moral person... and christianity has nothing to do with it!
@ScienceReasonBelief what is evil? anything against God...murder, cheating, stealing, lying so where do we stop?? the murder level? the lying level? or the evil thinking level? We all fall short and have sinned and deserve Hell but thanks be to Jesus that He stepped in and took our place to die and suffer for us!! AMEN
@ScienceReasonBelief What Christians do will seem foolish until someone expereinces it themselves. People don't wanna get close to the truth, because when they do, things change. people don't like change, we are a creature of habit. I am going to make it a priority to make you a priority. I pray that the divine being that is alive and powerful will awaken a sleeping giant and ignite the fire that is within you. the reason we were created is to have a divine relationship with him romans 8:38
"What Christians do will seem foolish until someone expereinces it themselves."
Not true. Christians tell themselves that to make them feel better about a religion that can't be proved. You're not using logic, only emotion. That's dangerous. You started crying, yet you have no way of knowing objectively that what you feel is really from God. Your mind/heart has made the emotions... but what verifies the source? Only a feeling inside.
Because what I believe in is not supernatural. I believe in the natural world, where things are observed through science.
How do you know what YOU believe in is not fictional? "God's spirit", perhaps? What's your guarantee that it's REALLY from God... and not just a made-up feeling in your head?
@ScienceReasonBelief Okay, so my understanding is that you're saying that you don't believe in the supernatural? If so, how do you know that? By obersavtion? Or are you just being arbitrary? How does your belief *justifiably* preclude the existence of God? How is your belief even correct?
I know that what I believe is not fictional, based upon the Word of God. That might seem like a stange answer to you, but my *knowledge* of God is based upon his word. And I'm perfectly justified in that. :)
Yes, by observation. No belief in things that can't be proven. At the same time, I NEVER have precluded the existence of god. If you think I have then you rushing to conclusions.
And as far as you being justified in your beliefs through the "word" of god, I'm afraid you're being terribly naive. You have no real way to distinguish what are the feelings made by your own brain, or what might be the "spirit" of God telling you it's truth.
@ScienceReasonBelief So does God have to be observed in order for you to know he exists? If you believe that, can you prove it? I submit to you –based upon God’s Word- that you do believe in (have a knowledge of) the true and living God, whom I preach. The God whom I preach is the God you and I presuppose. That which is presupposed is, by definition, unprovable. Thus I ask, can you prove that God has to be “proven” (in the sense I think you mean prove) in order to be justifiably believed?
You're not paying attention! I've never said that I don't believe God exists. I said in the previous post that I have never precluded the existence of God and it specifically says on my channel page that I'm NOT an atheist. Wow, you christians are almost all alike in your assumptions about non-believers! I simply don't believe in religion, which is man-made (including all of christianity).
@ScienceReasonBelief Well excuse me, but I was thrown off when you said, among other things, that "what [you] believe in is not supernatural". Can you help me to see how you're not contradicting yourself? And yet, let me clarify that it matters not whether you profess to be a theist or not. Notice that I qualified the term "God" in that I said, "The true and living God, *whom I preach*". Based upon God's Word, you are denying God if you are denying the Bible/Christianity.
"The true and living God, who (you) preach"... is your opinion. "God's word"... is your opinion. Denying chrisitanity is NOT denying God. You are wrong.
Are you familiar with the concept of deism? If you were, you would understand why believing in God and not believing in supernatural occurences is not contradictory.
This whole "conversation" is really beginning to bore me. Why not just scurry along and enjoy your mythology without me and without the self-righteousness?
@ScienceReasonBelief said ""The true and living God, who (you) preach"... is your opinion. "God's word"... is your opinion. Denying chrisitanity is NOT denying God. You are wrong."
You make a lot of affirmations. Now, what is each one based on? I just have to take *your* word for it? That’s more than risky. That's just downright foolish.
What is the notion that you can believe in God (i.e., the entity that actually exists) without believing in supernatural occurences based on?
@ScienceReasonBelief With all due respect, no amount of "teaching" on deism or anything else would compensate for the nonsense you've already spoken anyway. Bye-bye
@ScienceReasonBelief One glaring error is ur belief that you dont believe in what cant be proven. This is a relevantly critical error (nonsense). *Everyone* holds to unprovable beliefs. For example, youll never be able to *prove* (and u sure cant by observation) that you dont hold to unprovable beliefs. If you make any attempts and you are thorough, you still would inevitably have to appeal to a supposed justification that is itself unprovable. Essentially, the key is to not be arbitrary.
@ScienceReasonBelief I doubt Im as naive or blind as you think. I’m open to correction as I know I need it in some area. But I’m not impressed by the assertion that you were a missionary, you studied Christianity “in depth”, etc. I know of plenty of advanced theologians, pastors, and the like whom I love, respect, and learn from that are clearly wrong on certain issues respectively. So it would be no shock to me if there were certain things, relevant to this exchange, that you never got right.
@ScienceReasonBelief lol, aw man, that's it? It would appear to me that some of this is over your head. Perhaps you're the one that refuses to consider another path. In any case, if you're disinterested, you're disinterested - and I guess I don't have the power to change that. Bye-bye, again!
@ScienceReasonBelief bro. this might sound foolish and retarded, but he loves you. and something about you, i have no clue who you are, but as i was writing that last message i started crying. I am convicted. which means. A compassion that only comes from Christ has overtaken me and will not stop until I see you exult in christ, yes i wrote exult. May god truly bless you! all who call on God are saved. not some traditon by man. God is simple. he simply wants to love you.
@ScienceReasonBelief Jeffery L. Sheler, religion writer for US News & World Report, writes, "The Bible and its sources remain firmly grounded in history(1999)." More than twenty thousand copies of New Testament manuscripts are in existence as of 2004. The Iliad, which is second to the New Testament in manuscript authority, has only 643 manuscripts in existence.
Again, it's foolish to think that simply because there's many manuscripts, that this is proof of christianity's "truth". I can't believe you fell for it. It means that there's a lot of evidence of this religion, but not of the "truth" thereof.
And there's a lot in the bible that didn't happen, too. There's no evidence of a world-wide flood. And it's impossible that Noah could get the MILLIONS of species all on that ark. I could go on....
@ScienceReasonBelief Yeah there is actually evidence of the world flood. Your sources are distorted and anti GOD. Its okay ignorance really is bliss. He took 2 of each animal not ALL...thats why we found dinosaurs fossils in areas where they couldnt reach without being taken with the waves :) And a wooden piece of the ark on top of one the largest mountains as well. Would it be too much to ask you for your email. I want to send you a really good presentation called Creation vs Evolution
You're not very smart if you think that Noah was able to take all the MILLIONS of animals species in the ark with him.... even if it was just 2 of each species, that's still way too many for an ark to carry. Not only that, think of the complications of housing, feeding and taking care of all those animals. Not to mention getting rid of the excrement... or keeping them from killing each other. Sorry, but the story of Noah is just bogus!
The Nat'l Science Foundation’s “Tree of Life” project estimates that there could be anywhere from 5 to 100 million species on the planet, but science has only identified about 2 million.
“We’ve only touched the surface of understanding animal life,” said entomologist Brian Fisher of the CA Academy of Sciences. “We’ve discovered just 10 percent of all living things on this planet.”
So, if Noah took just two of each, that would be 10 to 200 million animals!
So tell me, if there's anywhere between 5 to 100 million different kinds of animals on the planet, and Noah took 2 of each kind, then how did he get 10 to 200 million individual animals on the ark? How did he feed them? How did he clean up after them? How did he keep them from killing each other?
99% of all known animal species are smaller than bumblebees. How did Noah collect all these small animals?
By the way, the 5 to 100 species number is for ALL animals AND plants... my mistake. But there's still about 1.25 million animals! how did Noah do it?
@ScienceReasonBelief If you don't believe in the Supernatural then you will never comprehend God's nature and character. The problem with atheists is that if there is no God then YOU are at the top of the "food chain" So you rule your world. You're a piece of dust and compared to the universe....a speck......There is a God and even though you hate Him and refuse to let go of pride because you want to be the God of your little world HE STILL LOVES YOU AND WANTS YOU MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE
@ScienceReasonBelief I can smell the despair and emptiness right off of you. Of course you're an atheist...you don't believe in Jesus Christ...the only living God...the only way to life>>>>>creation.com and "More Than A Carpenter" FACTS AND PROOF :) Funny you're on FRANCIS CHAN'S SERMON TOO :) ADMIRE GOD'S CREATION DECLARING HIS GLORY. God bless!!
@ScienceReasonBelief Yes, those your knees will bow & that tongue of yours WILL confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. You will look on the King of Glory & beg for mercy - but there'll be none because you've judged yourself. You will howl, cry, and gnash your teeth at what is coming for 'smart' folks like you. Yes, LAUGH, my friend. Hell is such an amusing place when the full wrath of G-d is poured out. @ last, YOUR will WILL be done & you'll remember this exchange of ours for all eternity - TRUST.
naw, my knees WON"T bow and my tongue WON'T confess, because that's just a fairy tale... it's just not true. christians have believed that christ is coming back for over 2 centuries, and it hasn't happened yet. Your religion is just the latest mythology to come down the pipe, no different from any other that has gone before it.
@ScienceReasonBelief WOW and what will you do at the end of your life and you are proved wrong??? I lift you up now to the one True GOD, the one who created ALL that you see with your naked eye. My prayer is that your inner ear will hear the call of the Holy Spirit to salvation and know that you too can have eternal life in heaven. The other is unbearable to consider.
I'm not worried, because I know I'm not wrong, silly!
All religion is illogical, and especially christianity, which is largely based upon bronze-age fairy tales. I'm not worried because there is nothing to worry about.
Non-believers in God, and believers in God but non-believers in religion, spend so much time on these videos for the same reason that christians spend so much time preaching and witnessing... to share the OTHER good news, which is freedom from religion. Call it the missionary spirit!
@Gordon1027 It's in the same context as if someone put up a video on atheism, you'd have tons of religious people knocking them. People just have an urge to comment. I'm not really gonna get into the whole religious aspect of things, but I thought I'd respond to your question haha =) I don't have an issue with people believing in religion, I think it makes the world a better place since it puts people in their place, but I just have an issue with people bashing atheists cuz they don't "believe".
If something is improbable as you say the nature of the universe is, then the being creating it, without a creator becomes more difficult. Nature would always be required to generate such a complexity, and we have only seen evidence for intelligence of any magnitude emerging from evolution, let alone omniscience. There must be a basis for that beings existence. The problem becomes a recursive loop of nonsense.
Maybe science can end the loop. I think that matter from the vacuum explains best what we can see today. But saying that, we need to find out why the conflict of dimension exists. If we can discover why nothing could not be with regards to quantum theory (or M Theory) we will have an excellent explanation. Can it be proved? I don't know. Being inside a universe may prove difficult to explaining. It like we're in a bubble and can't see outside.
Outside of the universe is such an odd concept. Especially when the definition of the universe states that all matter is part of it. What shape do you think the universe is? I've heard that there's evidence pointing to it being flat but it would make more sense to me if it were round because almost everything inside the universe is spherical.
I could see the shape of the universe being anything really, It seems to me that given the universe is more dimensions than we can perceive, flat may the logical choice, considering that Quantum String Theory suggests that everything is made of 1 dimensional strings at super high tension. Again, relativity is the limitation, we can't perceive the whole universe, only things of similar or larger size to various degrees. We can only infer things mathematically and experimentally.
There may always be uncertainity,but I have a feeling we can infer a lot more with certainity given the state of the universe, so, overall, given time, I say we will have an explanation of our origin. We are living during a time of great leaps and bounds in this science.
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Genesis is SOOOOOOOOOO WRONG. I declare that henceforth I consider all who believe in this creation to be mentally handicapped. Too bad I can't do that, but that would be funny. Seriously, reality is way better than this delusional BS. Quit lying to your children people.
No-one has ever taught you that nothing created everything, if they did, they lied. The latest scientific theory is called M-Theory, in which vaccuum is an energy, as powerful as pressure or matter. Experiments verify matter from the vacuum. They also verify that matter is nothing but wave flucuations in the vacuum.They also understand a lot about how the universe cooled and formed denser matter, heavier elements. I can show you links to studies. Now explain where God came from. Good luck.
If you answer my question first, I will proceed to answer yours. You religious types are all the same, answering questions with questions. On that note, where exactly did God come from, what is your hypothesis?
Do you understand how scientific theory works or how our understanding of the universe changes over time? Do you think that the theory of gravity or Newtonian physics were discarded or do they still serve a purpose? Special relativity and Quantum Theory do not reconcile without string theory, do you think the scientists discarded those or do you think they still serve a purpose. Our knowledge is growing, it's much better than was understood 2000 years ago.
There is absolutely no logic to religion for any thinking individual. The deeper you go the more the universe is reduced, not increased in complexity. To believe in religion you must believe that infinite complexity, intelligence, benevolence, and omnipotence sprang from nothing, does particle physics jive with that?
'infinite complexity, intelligence, benevolence, and omnipotence sprang from nothing' How does science explain the universe being created? Where did the dense matter that was involved in the big bang come from. That will always be the problem with science.
If it is a problem with science, it is a greater problem for religion. We see much evidence as to how the natural world has formed. To me it's the idea of the balance of forces. If vacuum is inherently unstable, as matter appears to be. DImension itself and the conflict therein may be responsible for all energy and thus matter. The reason the problem is greater for religion, is now you have to imagine a God being capable of creating those conditions, springing into origin ex nihilo.
No, I was never Catholic. But when you speak with scientific types and theologians discussing the kind of topics like this, you pick up a little latin here and there.
you speak of balances and forces, but you do not understand the concept of nothing. God is the only explanation for matter- basic rule of science buddy: matter can not be created from nothing. Third graders know that. Only something (God) that exists beyond the restrictions of time could create time, and thus matter. time refers to the passing of events- that means at one point there was nothing, and so something had to create time and everything else.
How can you call God the only explanation when you can't even explain God. Seriously, don't try to use logic, you'll only hurt yourself. How do you know what exists beyond time? Or even if there is such a thing? You are making grandiose claims without evidence. If someone came up to you on the street and told you that the world was on the back of a giant tortoise would you believe it? No, and your religion/beliefs makes similar claims, you just can't see how foolish they are.
I just explained God but you did not read what i wrote well enough. It is sooooo simple: we exist in time. Before time there was eternity because eternity IS NOT BOUND BY TIME!Thus without the restriction of time, God has no beginning, no end, no birth, and no death. My brother is a teacher and his students are in the seventh grade and they understand this concept and yet you do not. I really want you to read what i wrote- understand it, dont just glance at it. If you are smart u will get it
How do you know anything existed before time. You openly accept Einstein's definition of time based upon those principles yet you ignore all the science after that. It is falgrant hypocricy. amd you Bible worshippers never seem to notice. When physics works in your favour you quote textbooks, then you turn around and say those same textbooks, rigorously examined and tested are false when it suits you. You will never ever learn anything that way, you think they knew everything 2000 years ago.
And if God IS the explanation, how did he do it? Would it perhaps be MAGIC!!! Even third graders know magic isn't real. We have a word for what is beyond time or the laws of the universe, it's called NOTHING!! And you also make stupid assumptions, again, no one can know. You say matter must have come from nothing, but how do you know that nothing ever existed. Try to imagine nothing. Imagining a black void perhaps, that's still something. You sound as stupid as those who write religions.
So what again created God? Was it nothing? Nothing creates nothing, nothing does nothing. It certainly does't create matter or energy, let alone omnipotent superbeings, even you admit that. Your mind has been made feeble by your beliefs. Believe what you want. I choose to learn and understand.
nothing creates nothing.... so the obvious observation would be that something had to ALWAYS be here. "Nothing" can't make "something." God always being here is something we can never fully understand. However, scientific theories of nothing creating nothing makes even less sense, such as the "Big Bang Theory."
Again you assume that nothing ever existed, it probably didn't. Whether you're a theolgian or a scientist, this is evident. Do you even realize that if God were real, he would be an atheist? Wrap your head around that. The Big Bang theory doesn't try to explain how the universe was kickstarted, just how it inflated. Why do you exempt God from being created by a something, whether physical or magical. You are not exempt from your own rules. Omnipotent superbeings don;t spring from nothing.
Read my previous comments before you comment anyway. No one is coming clean to the fact that God may not, and IMO does not exist. It's called the null hypothesis, and it is a cornerstone of logic and science. It's how we know yeti and leprecauns don't exist either.
It is absolutely not a fact that God doesn't exist. I use to think as you did... I came to realize that everything in the entire universe preaches God's name. How could you look at the sophistication of all that exists and simply say "Meh, just an accident." There's no way all of this is coincidence.
I imply the coicincidence that this happened because it did. You imply there is magic behind it. Why? For what reason? Your idea is self-serving and pointless. We're all here to serve the cosmic king, who has infinite power, knows what will happen, etc. Seriously. if there was an omnipotent being behind everything, life would be completely meaningless, we'd all be in the service of a fascist dictator who's playing "The Sims" on his Godly computer. Not buying it, not for one second.
Not to mention that you imply the even greater coincidence that somehow what you believe is greater than what anyone else believes, it isn't. Be it religion or belief, your ideas are truly unfounded, and you have never taken the time to really think about it. You bought everything you were taught without ever thinking critically why you believe what you do. It sounds nice at first. But when the Bible describes heaven and tries to explain morality, you learn really quick what a bad idea it is.
And the idea is manmade and infantile. A child looks at the world with fantasy, imagining mermaids and castles and dragons and angels. You don't beleive Santa Claus. Why? Becasue you outgrew the magic. Guess what? Jesus and God and Heaven and Hell are no different.
I want you to know that i agree with you completely but this stevenweir guy is too stubborn and illogical to understand. You could tell him that the sun is bright and he would argue with you- just let it go. We both use the same basic logic, and this stevenweir person can not understand it. As to how God got here thats an easy explanation. God existed before time, thus he is not restricted to it. Before there was time there was eternity- God exists eternally, so he has no beginning and no end
you still do not understand time. I want you to research what time is- it is a term that refers to the passing of events. Thats what time is. So if God is before time (which he is because he created it) then he had no beginning and will have no end- he was not created and will not die because he is eternal! how did God get here? He has always existed because he is not bound by time like we are. It's so simple if you can not understand this concept than i refuse to continue with you.
What you call a dubious theory does not proclaim to be the only truth or the exact explanation, (ie. no scientist will claim to know the answer to everything).
Show me the evidence you have for the existence of Jesus and if it proves to be miraculous and passes scientific scrutiny, I'll convert.
If you don't why you believe what you believe, you should ask more questions. I want replies of why everyone believes in God and Jesus.
well, when you think about it there is a strange logic in having a religion. Atheists are in a lose-lose situation. If you're right then you die and that's the end, nothing else happens. If we're right then you die and spend an eternity in hell. Just saying.
As for the hell thing, I think we're all beyond that nonsense. Don't you? I find it far riskier to wager my one and only life that I know that I have, wasting it on something which in no way has ever presented itself to me. I find it far more heinous to live life as a lie than to fear hell. If there is an omnipotent, benevolent God, why hell anyway? It's a childish, superstitious idea, even for a theologian.
@stevenweir76 that is why you will never believe in God: faith is believeing what you can not see, and only when you stop living hedonistically and seek God will you find him. Evidence for god is all around you; the stars declare his existance. Time declares his existance. The fact that we never existed and now we are here means that we were created by our parents- so who ceated the first people but a creator, namely God?
So essentially you have an imbalance created from the true vacuum which itself is a force from which matter spontaneously creates and self-annihialtes. Quantum causality allowed for the monopole or the mechanism for the expansion of the universe. Enentually the energy coalesced into matter as it cooled, then the matter formed into stars. From stars planets were created, on some planets the conditions are ripe for life as we know it. Abiogenesis, evolution, tada.
God exists beyond the boundaries of time- thus no one created him. You are looking at it from a perpective that involves the continium of time- God is before time, thus he has always existed. God creetd time, thus he is in a seperate dimension set apart from time. As far as the vacuum and evolution thing, you don't know what you are talking about. You say there was an imbalance- if there was nothing there would nothing inbalanced because there is nothing to imbalance!
So while you have faith in God, I seek natural explanations from evidence. The thing is there are possible and more likely explanations for why life is the way it is today then just saying God did it. I suggest you learn astrophyics, quantum physics, biology, physics, chemistry, taxonomy, evolutionary biology. etc. etc. Then you will be closer to the truth, inferred from logic and evidence. But you just keep thinking God did it. I wouldn't want you to burn a fuse out in your brain.
I don't act as though teories are evidence, there is evidence to support the theories. You have to think like a scientist and not a theologian if you ever want to understand what I think. I weigh the evidence, and go with the best explanation we have. Magic Sky Daddy wished planned in all and poofed it here doesn't fly with me. Especially when you consistently ignore the real question. Where did God come from if he exists, and what evidence do you have?
The evidence which is existence is not evidence for anything other than the universe happened. Your thoughts and writings offer nothing as to why things are the way they are, nor do they account for anything real. The universe is evidence that energy exists. It can be taken as fact. Why you choose to ignore the idea that it may have arose from a vacuum condition, especially when evidence from people who study it their entire lives infers that matter spontaneously creates and self-annhilaltes.
I'm confused. You say you know science yet you claim that matter is created out of nothing. Doesn't that go against the very reason and proof you claim - that something cannot be created out of nothing - thermaldynamics.
"Don't imagine outer space without matter in it. Imagine no space at all and no matter at all. To the average person it might seem obvious that nothing can happen in nothing. But to a quantum physicist, nothing is, in fact, something. Quantum theory also holds that a vacuum, like atoms, is subject to quantum uncertainties. This means that things can materialize out of the vacuum, although they tend to vanish back into it quickly..this phenomenon has never been observed directly."
It's also called thermodynamics, not thermaldynamics, and what else do you know about thermodynamics other than the second law. Name all the laws and demonstrate that you understand them. Then we'll talk about thermodynamics. As for your obvious proof (disproof)...." this phenomenon has never been observed directly", neither has magnetism, nor has electricity, nor has gravity, but strangely you trust those because of how successful those laws and theories describe our universe.
And last but certainly not least, when you say there always had to be something, I would say you are correct. But how do you claim to know what it is and why do you dismiss God, and infinite complex, omnipotent being which defies all known science and reason. You think the eye is irreducibly complex yet you have no such problems with God, that means either your logic is severely flawed or you are a hypocrite.
Your idea of God answers nothing in terms of reality, you cant even find two people who believe the same thing. Opinions on God or lack thereof are as individual as you or I, yet somehow you think that the explanation for our existence is common sense, it isn't. In fact, you don't have the sense to even know that you may be wrong, I do. I simply go with the most reasonable explanation. The idea of God is fascist, eternally insecure glory seeking, selfish, angry and jealous asshole.
And as far as theories being evidence, they're not, evidence leads to theories, you start with hypothesis then reach conclusions based upon the ability of your hypothesis to accurately predict what occurs in the universe. You started with a conclusion, essentially, you guessed, and you figure you got it right the first time. Fat chance.
the vaccuum is made from energy SO HOW DID THAT ENERGY GET HERE!? do you ever think about your theories? they must have a causal beginning- trace everything back and there is something that caused it. so what caused the first thig that triggered the universe to be created? Dont run away from this question this time- it is basic logic and you can not answer my question and you knwo it. You can attribute our existance o anything, but that anything must have had an initial cause (GOD)
Our GOD is an AWESOME GOD!!!!!! I can't even fathom His Glory and His Majesty, in all His Holiness that He invites us to partake in. We His children are truly blessed!
I've been waiting to see videos like this. On Aug 6 I made a new banner for my blog and wrote about it, "The heavens show forth the glory of God". Today I discovered this video. Providence! Our God is an awesome God. Gloria in excelsis Deo! Bless you, Mr. Chan, for your work, and bless all who are making his work available to the rest of us.
i knw the song is streamside , from the album leaf! I love francis chan! I used to be a christian, but now i am a proud agnostic! I think religion can be good, but i think it is better to realize what science and rational can tell us. jesus is not real look at history look at science, lok at truth before the bible, and mankind can become better!
Keep searching. Listen to more Francis Chan. Christianity is not about religion. It is a love story from the Creator of heaven and earth, the Creator of astrophysics, microbiology and rationality to u and me-- with faults, who make mistakes, and don't deserve His love...and yet He gives it freely. I have my degrees. History validates Scripture. Science points to its Creator. Spend some time studying...look hard. Dig deeper. "I will be found by you if you seek me with all your heart" Jer. 29:13
Francis God Bless you my brother :-)
JP2Mr 3 weeks ago
Where can I watch this full sermon?
joshua9492 4 months ago
This guy is just amazing. I've been watching a lot of stuff an reading about the universe lately and I began to question my faith. I wondered how there could be a god with everything that science has found out. I read an article in discover about finding god in quantum physics. It got me thinking. Watching this now makes me positive that god exists. There ate soo many facts science has found that has proof in the bible to back it up! And that was written more than 2000 years ago! It just amazes
BurtonDC145 11 months ago 8
@christianblazer romans 1:20 states that people will be without excuse because we see God through his invisible attributes and divine nature by creation. Basically I know that creation is real bc I look at it everyday. And since His word says its true we truley will be without excuse.
thewisenashvillestar 1 year ago
The quote at the beginning of this clip has made such an impact on my life. That our "high view" of God defines us. It IS why we are here. Humbled by what is at stake here.
jacolburn1 1 year ago
i wish there were people who thought like him in north carolina, everybody here has the same old baptist belief and im young an id like to view god as a universal god not just an earthly god.. i like the part were he was like it would take a 100 thousand years!! to get across the milky way haha that was epic man :))
xjoe1988x 1 year ago
Wow! Thanks Mr. Chan for the inspiration and worship! And, thanks to all for creating and posting this and other works/videos from Mr. Chan..
yogimanco 1 year ago
Watch the "Awe Factor of God" first than watch this one...Wow! Awe Inspiring is right! Thanks Mr Chan for being inspired like this and thanks to all that shared/created this video and the "Awe Factor of God!
yogimanco 1 year ago
Beautiful!!!!
joselinema 1 year ago
LOL U have No Understanding, its a joke u call yourself even a Scientist,
at 25:39 about the 10* and 11* bit, 11 God is the stong Delusion you believe is real,
really u dont want the real-truth thats why you believe a lie, God is the Lie,
whats a Dog in the most basicway, A Dog is a Beast, So God is the Beast your all told to believe in and Fear,God believers would be the Real-Beast Worshippers Not atheists, u love a lie, u believe a lie, u worship a lie, Created out of your Fear of Death
RealityGameWorld 1 year ago
@RealityGameWorld What is God without a beast? What is man without a past?
God created dogs, for this reason specifically. So you can use what you have be given, to disprove (disobey) the infallible truth. Gamer, When you die you're taking nothing with you, it's the part after life that matters man, I and others are prayin'for you. And God Bless Bro.
And just so you know for certain, I'm a follower of our Christ I couldn't tell you this here and now if I believed there's nothing to believe in.
DraikzTake 11 months ago
i'm a Muslim and all i want to say is god bless you :D and life just a test for our souls to get us in the sec life ,i thank god every day for giving me a chance
XxovanxX1 1 year ago
To Risky to NOT BELIEVE !
chrisbaby3581 1 year ago
GOD IS GOOD!!!!!
ismellcake06 1 year ago
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created4goodwrks 1 year ago
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created4goodwrks 1 year ago
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created4goodwrks 1 year ago
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This has been flagged as spam show
this guy stevenweir76 is on numerous Christian u-tube videos commenting... it's like the guy has really nothing else better to do. My suggestion is to just ignore him...keep him in silence, do NOT respond to his post...because all your doing is throwing your pearls to swine..Matthew 7:6
created4goodwrks 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
this guy stevenweir76 is on numerous Christian u-tube videos commenting... it's like the guy has really nothing else better to do. My suggestion is to just ignore him...keep him in silence, do NOT respond to his post...because all your doing is throwing your pearls to swine..Matthew 7:6
created4goodwrks 1 year ago
The only thing that comes to mind for me...? Who AM I LORD THAT YOU WOULD SLIGHTLY, consider me? To YAHWEH be the GLORY FOREVER AND EVER!!!!
RapnJu3 1 year ago
Religion and spirituality are 2 totally different things and I now that this is off track from the comments below but religion itself is something well to me i think god doesn't really appreciate all the rules but the rules are important, but really it's about a connection to something that changes who you are not only who you are but how people see you whether they totally disown you or get closer to you, im not a minister or anything im just a student that has a love for god
GotXXRiceXX 1 year ago
Why do people who don't believe in GOD spend so much of their time on these videos??? I mean, I understand the feeling of responding to someone who says something to you. But, why do you even bother looking at these videos and then spending so much time on them?? It's the same with ALL GOD inspired / related videos... You say all these things but you will NEVER change what a JESUS FOLLOWER thinks or feels? So why waste your time? Just let us Christians enjoy them
Gordon1027 1 year ago 6
@Gordon1027 ...Amen....
greasemonkey5131 1 year ago
@Gordon1027 I think the reason why non-believers take the time to comment on these type videos is because whether they like it or not, they were born with a conscience and they know He IS (Rom 1:19-21). They spend their lives trying to convince themselves that He is folklore but they know. They do everything to dethrone Him. But you and I know that this will not work - amen? He ALONE is the God of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob. He ALONE is GOD; there's NO other - period. (Phil 1:27-28) ~ take care.
walksbyf8h 1 year ago
@walksbyf8h
Why actually, that's not the reason at all. You christians are so funny! You think that we're spending our lives "trying to convince" ourselves? Nope! We worry not about religion and it's silly rules! We are on here to share the good news... freedom FROM religion! Now, I'm not an atheist myself, but I do believe that God has no religion nor sacred book (like the Bible).
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief ROFL! That you're over here commenting as always, puts the lie to your comment! You're like little kids whistling in the dark but whistling will not save you. No - we know that YOU know because you folks ALWAYS come by to try to convince yourselves that the Truth is a lie. But no worries; there's an old saying, "he who laughs last, laughs BEST". And those that belong to Jesus Christ will have the last laugh - no doubt about it. ;-) You will eat every letter you've typed.
walksbyf8h 1 year ago
@walksbyf8h
you're so silly! there's no lie to my comment... apparently you're not paying attention! or is it that you're just not very intelligent?
I'll tell you again because you obviously missed it. we non-believers comment for the same reason you christians proselyte... to share the good news that they don't have to believe in your silly fairy tales any longer!
and we don't whistle in the dark, or worry that we might be wrong. those are just silly stories you christians tell!
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief You REALLY REALLY need to Read "More Than A Carpenter" by Josh McDowell. Powerful book about an atheist who thought the Bible wads just a novel....until he researched thoroughly and found he couldnt prove it false. Praise God!! I hope and pray your heart will be softened and you can try reading it
ismellcake06 1 year ago
@ismellcake06
You REALLY REALLY need to read "Letter to a Christian Nation" by Sam Harris. Powerful book! One reviewer put it even better than I can... it "describes a moral and intellectual emergency precipitated by religious fantasies–misguided beliefs that create suffering, that rationalize violence, that have endangered our nation and our future." It shows how false Christianity really is. I hope that your heart will be softened and that you can open your mind to reason by reading it!
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief Reasoning is what is hardening your heart. You cant have all the answers to creation- you are not God- you are just human. Product of dust>>What about Nephilim? 30 FOOT GIANTS more than 2,000 YEARS AGO>>>DISPROVES EVOLUTION>>>I CAN GO FOREVER :)
Oh and christianity is not a religion. Religion means bondage- CHRIST SET US FREE FROM BONDAGE THROUGH THE CROSS AND RESURRECTION!
ismellcake06 1 year ago
@ismellcake06
Look it up in an encyclopedia. Christianity IS a religion, whether you like it or not.
You say reasoning is hardening my heart? Are you serious? So in order to be a Christian, I must suspend logic?
I've never said I had all the answers. But I do know a fake religion (christianity) when I see one!
While giants have been discovered from time to time, there's no evidence of Nephilim... just another bible fairy tale! And by the way, genetic mutation does not disprove evolution!
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief That's the world view on it :) It is a relationship. No rules just moral standards and true freedom and purpose and meaning like nothing in this world can offer. By your limited knowledge on christianity it is very easy to see that you havent done enough thorough research to actually find it has already been historically proven. Of course there's evidence of Nephilim- stop listening to your professors and do your OWN research. You'll be very surprised as I was. God bless!!
ismellcake06 1 year ago
@ismellcake06
"Professors"? I'm well beyond college age, kid. I DO do my own research. And you're a fool to think that I have a limited knowledge of christianity. As a former Asst Pastor, Sunday School teacher AND foreign missionary, I have studied the bible and christianity in depth. What's been historically proven is the myths that have been passed down... NOT that they're really from God.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief Sounds like you have some deep cuts and pain that causes you to react in such a defensive way. I dont know what happened to your life but GOD IS REAL and ALIVE and I have seen much evidence to back up that Jeus Christ lived, died and rose again. Also Saul of Tarsus is in the Encyclopedia Britannica but the secular book wont say how he changed to Paul the Apostle. It proves a supernatural transformation that caused him to stop killing christians and follow and proclaim Christ
ismellcake06 1 year ago
@ismellcake06
"you have some deep cuts and pain"... ha ha you're kidding me! Don't be silly!
I know God is real and alive too, so apparently you're not paying attention... I'm not an atheist! But your belief about God and the historical person Jesus Christ is just your opinion, with no proof of it's validity. And simply because Saul is mentioned in the EB is not proof of anything... how silly.
Truth be told, I became much happier AFTER i left the mythology of christianity!
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief Yes of course there is...Same timing as the Bible's documentation of his life...History and The Bible go hand in hand with all events. SO MUCH evidence, epigraphy, manuscripts and archaeological proves Jesus Christ was in fact a real person. "MORE THAN A CARPENTER" will change your life :)
ismellcake06 1 year ago
@ismellcake06
He was likely a real person... but there's no evidence of his "miracles" or anything else.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief Of course you're happier after leaving christianity. Your sinful nature wants to do what you want and rule your world. Believing in philosophies that satisfy until the last 30 seconds of breath you have...you will no deep deep down inside you have no idea where you will go after you die. In JESUS CHRIST THERE IS TRUE HOPE and TRUE PURPOSE that surpasses all knowledge.
ismellcake06 1 year ago
@ismellcake06
what baloney! you don't need christinity in order to be good! so don't go spouting off about "sinful nature". I happen to be a very moral person... and christianity has nothing to do with it!
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief what is evil? anything against God...murder, cheating, stealing, lying so where do we stop?? the murder level? the lying level? or the evil thinking level? We all fall short and have sinned and deserve Hell but thanks be to Jesus that He stepped in and took our place to die and suffer for us!! AMEN
ismellcake06 1 year ago
@ismellcake06
Nope, wrong again. Evil is that which hurts another human being. It has nothing to do with your christ-mythology.
Try again!
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief What Christians do will seem foolish until someone expereinces it themselves. People don't wanna get close to the truth, because when they do, things change. people don't like change, we are a creature of habit. I am going to make it a priority to make you a priority. I pray that the divine being that is alive and powerful will awaken a sleeping giant and ignite the fire that is within you. the reason we were created is to have a divine relationship with him romans 8:38
damoniss 1 year ago
@damoniss
"What Christians do will seem foolish until someone expereinces it themselves."
Not true. Christians tell themselves that to make them feel better about a religion that can't be proved. You're not using logic, only emotion. That's dangerous. You started crying, yet you have no way of knowing objectively that what you feel is really from God. Your mind/heart has made the emotions... but what verifies the source? Only a feeling inside.
Sorry, but that doesn't make it from God.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief That "feeling" is faith. a substance hoped, longed and adored for. Faith is not relying on the temporary.
damoniss 1 year ago
@damoniss
Faith is relying on a feeling that cannot be verified. Too risky for me... for anyone!
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
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christianblazer 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief Can you verify that it's too risky to have faith in Jesus Christ?
christianblazer 1 year ago
@christianblazer
Why would I have faith in a myth-- a fictional story?
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief How do you know that what you believe in is not fictional?
christianblazer 1 year ago
@christianblazer
Because what I believe in is not supernatural. I believe in the natural world, where things are observed through science.
How do you know what YOU believe in is not fictional? "God's spirit", perhaps? What's your guarantee that it's REALLY from God... and not just a made-up feeling in your head?
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief Okay, so my understanding is that you're saying that you don't believe in the supernatural? If so, how do you know that? By obersavtion? Or are you just being arbitrary? How does your belief *justifiably* preclude the existence of God? How is your belief even correct?
I know that what I believe is not fictional, based upon the Word of God. That might seem like a stange answer to you, but my *knowledge* of God is based upon his word. And I'm perfectly justified in that. :)
christianblazer 1 year ago
@christianblazer
Yes, by observation. No belief in things that can't be proven. At the same time, I NEVER have precluded the existence of god. If you think I have then you rushing to conclusions.
And as far as you being justified in your beliefs through the "word" of god, I'm afraid you're being terribly naive. You have no real way to distinguish what are the feelings made by your own brain, or what might be the "spirit" of God telling you it's truth.
In other words, you have no real proof.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief So does God have to be observed in order for you to know he exists? If you believe that, can you prove it? I submit to you –based upon God’s Word- that you do believe in (have a knowledge of) the true and living God, whom I preach. The God whom I preach is the God you and I presuppose. That which is presupposed is, by definition, unprovable. Thus I ask, can you prove that God has to be “proven” (in the sense I think you mean prove) in order to be justifiably believed?
christianblazer 1 year ago
@christianblazer
You're not paying attention! I've never said that I don't believe God exists. I said in the previous post that I have never precluded the existence of God and it specifically says on my channel page that I'm NOT an atheist. Wow, you christians are almost all alike in your assumptions about non-believers! I simply don't believe in religion, which is man-made (including all of christianity).
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief Well excuse me, but I was thrown off when you said, among other things, that "what [you] believe in is not supernatural". Can you help me to see how you're not contradicting yourself? And yet, let me clarify that it matters not whether you profess to be a theist or not. Notice that I qualified the term "God" in that I said, "The true and living God, *whom I preach*". Based upon God's Word, you are denying God if you are denying the Bible/Christianity.
christianblazer 1 year ago
@christianblazer
"The true and living God, who (you) preach"... is your opinion. "God's word"... is your opinion. Denying chrisitanity is NOT denying God. You are wrong.
Are you familiar with the concept of deism? If you were, you would understand why believing in God and not believing in supernatural occurences is not contradictory.
This whole "conversation" is really beginning to bore me. Why not just scurry along and enjoy your mythology without me and without the self-righteousness?
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief said ""The true and living God, who (you) preach"... is your opinion. "God's word"... is your opinion. Denying chrisitanity is NOT denying God. You are wrong."
You make a lot of affirmations. Now, what is each one based on? I just have to take *your* word for it? That’s more than risky. That's just downright foolish.
What is the notion that you can believe in God (i.e., the entity that actually exists) without believing in supernatural occurences based on?
christianblazer 1 year ago
@christianblazer
Look up deism. I'm not here to teach you. Good luck.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief With all due respect, no amount of "teaching" on deism or anything else would compensate for the nonsense you've already spoken anyway. Bye-bye
christianblazer 1 year ago
@christianblazer
It's only nonsense to you because you refuse to consider any other path but the one you're already on.
"none so blind as those that will no see"...
how much more intellectually impotent could you get?
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief One glaring error is ur belief that you dont believe in what cant be proven. This is a relevantly critical error (nonsense). *Everyone* holds to unprovable beliefs. For example, youll never be able to *prove* (and u sure cant by observation) that you dont hold to unprovable beliefs. If you make any attempts and you are thorough, you still would inevitably have to appeal to a supposed justification that is itself unprovable. Essentially, the key is to not be arbitrary.
christianblazer 1 year ago
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christianblazer 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief I doubt Im as naive or blind as you think. I’m open to correction as I know I need it in some area. But I’m not impressed by the assertion that you were a missionary, you studied Christianity “in depth”, etc. I know of plenty of advanced theologians, pastors, and the like whom I love, respect, and learn from that are clearly wrong on certain issues respectively. So it would be no shock to me if there were certain things, relevant to this exchange, that you never got right.
christianblazer 1 year ago
@christianblazer
Yawn....
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief lol, aw man, that's it? It would appear to me that some of this is over your head. Perhaps you're the one that refuses to consider another path. In any case, if you're disinterested, you're disinterested - and I guess I don't have the power to change that. Bye-bye, again!
christianblazer 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief bro. this might sound foolish and retarded, but he loves you. and something about you, i have no clue who you are, but as i was writing that last message i started crying. I am convicted. which means. A compassion that only comes from Christ has overtaken me and will not stop until I see you exult in christ, yes i wrote exult. May god truly bless you! all who call on God are saved. not some traditon by man. God is simple. he simply wants to love you.
damoniss 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief Jeffery L. Sheler, religion writer for US News & World Report, writes, "The Bible and its sources remain firmly grounded in history(1999)." More than twenty thousand copies of New Testament manuscripts are in existence as of 2004. The Iliad, which is second to the New Testament in manuscript authority, has only 643 manuscripts in existence.
ismellcake06 1 year ago
@ismellcake06
Again, it's foolish to think that simply because there's many manuscripts, that this is proof of christianity's "truth". I can't believe you fell for it. It means that there's a lot of evidence of this religion, but not of the "truth" thereof.
And there's a lot in the bible that didn't happen, too. There's no evidence of a world-wide flood. And it's impossible that Noah could get the MILLIONS of species all on that ark. I could go on....
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief Yeah there is actually evidence of the world flood. Your sources are distorted and anti GOD. Its okay ignorance really is bliss. He took 2 of each animal not ALL...thats why we found dinosaurs fossils in areas where they couldnt reach without being taken with the waves :) And a wooden piece of the ark on top of one the largest mountains as well. Would it be too much to ask you for your email. I want to send you a really good presentation called Creation vs Evolution
ismellcake06 1 year ago
@ismellcake06
You're not very smart if you think that Noah was able to take all the MILLIONS of animals species in the ark with him.... even if it was just 2 of each species, that's still way too many for an ark to carry. Not only that, think of the complications of housing, feeding and taking care of all those animals. Not to mention getting rid of the excrement... or keeping them from killing each other. Sorry, but the story of Noah is just bogus!
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ismellcake06
From LiveScience:
The Nat'l Science Foundation’s “Tree of Life” project estimates that there could be anywhere from 5 to 100 million species on the planet, but science has only identified about 2 million.
“We’ve only touched the surface of understanding animal life,” said entomologist Brian Fisher of the CA Academy of Sciences. “We’ve discovered just 10 percent of all living things on this planet.”
So, if Noah took just two of each, that would be 10 to 200 million animals!
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief
ismellcake06 1 year ago
@ismellcake06
So tell me, if there's anywhere between 5 to 100 million different kinds of animals on the planet, and Noah took 2 of each kind, then how did he get 10 to 200 million individual animals on the ark? How did he feed them? How did he clean up after them? How did he keep them from killing each other?
How can you possibly believe in this story?
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief Faith and Facts :)
ismellcake06 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief go to creation.com and you will see the truth
ismellcake06 1 year ago
@ismellcake06
99% of all known animal species are smaller than bumblebees. How did Noah collect all these small animals?
By the way, the 5 to 100 species number is for ALL animals AND plants... my mistake. But there's still about 1.25 million animals! how did Noah do it?
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief If you don't believe in the Supernatural then you will never comprehend God's nature and character. The problem with atheists is that if there is no God then YOU are at the top of the "food chain" So you rule your world. You're a piece of dust and compared to the universe....a speck......There is a God and even though you hate Him and refuse to let go of pride because you want to be the God of your little world HE STILL LOVES YOU AND WANTS YOU MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE
ismellcake06 1 year ago
@ismellcake06
you are such an ignorant fool! how many times do I have to say it??!! I'm not an atheist! Too bad you're not very intelligent!
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief I can smell the despair and emptiness right off of you. Of course you're an atheist...you don't believe in Jesus Christ...the only living God...the only way to life>>>>>creation.com and "More Than A Carpenter" FACTS AND PROOF :) Funny you're on FRANCIS CHAN'S SERMON TOO :) ADMIRE GOD'S CREATION DECLARING HIS GLORY. God bless!!
ismellcake06 1 year ago
@ismellcake06
when I read this, i BURST out laughing!!! ha ha ha ha! so funny!
"despair and emptiness"?? That's rich! :) And SOOOO far from the truth! What an imagination you have!
And you calling me an atheist when indeed I believe in God (just not your silly version)? That's just your ignorance shining thru! You poor thing!
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief Yes, those your knees will bow & that tongue of yours WILL confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. You will look on the King of Glory & beg for mercy - but there'll be none because you've judged yourself. You will howl, cry, and gnash your teeth at what is coming for 'smart' folks like you. Yes, LAUGH, my friend. Hell is such an amusing place when the full wrath of G-d is poured out. @ last, YOUR will WILL be done & you'll remember this exchange of ours for all eternity - TRUST.
walksbyf8h 1 year ago
@walksbyf8h
naw, my knees WON"T bow and my tongue WON'T confess, because that's just a fairy tale... it's just not true. christians have believed that christ is coming back for over 2 centuries, and it hasn't happened yet. Your religion is just the latest mythology to come down the pipe, no different from any other that has gone before it.
TRUST, walksbyh8.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief WOW and what will you do at the end of your life and you are proved wrong??? I lift you up now to the one True GOD, the one who created ALL that you see with your naked eye. My prayer is that your inner ear will hear the call of the Holy Spirit to salvation and know that you too can have eternal life in heaven. The other is unbearable to consider.
ajrawson 1 year ago
@ajrawson
I'm not worried, because I know I'm not wrong, silly!
All religion is illogical, and especially christianity, which is largely based upon bronze-age fairy tales. I'm not worried because there is nothing to worry about.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
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@ScienceReasonBelief Heaven or Hell>>>where you going when you die?
ismellcake06 1 year ago
@Gordon1027 ...Amen Gordon,
Jchoueiri 1 year ago
@Gordon1027
Non-believers in God, and believers in God but non-believers in religion, spend so much time on these videos for the same reason that christians spend so much time preaching and witnessing... to share the OTHER good news, which is freedom from religion. Call it the missionary spirit!
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@Gordon1027 CONVICTION. WE just gotta pray they can see God's beautiful work!
ismellcake06 1 year ago
@Gordon1027 It's in the same context as if someone put up a video on atheism, you'd have tons of religious people knocking them. People just have an urge to comment. I'm not really gonna get into the whole religious aspect of things, but I thought I'd respond to your question haha =) I don't have an issue with people believing in religion, I think it makes the world a better place since it puts people in their place, but I just have an issue with people bashing atheists cuz they don't "believe".
Zhinger51 9 months ago
@Gordon1027 Just like Christians convert Atheists to "save them", atheists attempt to slap the ignorance out of Christians.
lucasdaudt22 7 months ago
Ready? Jesus Christ returning May 21, 2011 4 Judgment. C dimstar4now 4 5/21/11 vid. Wake up!
dimstar4now 2 years ago
@dimstar4now and how do you know this? My bible says that no one knows the day nor hour, not even the son
theycallmelask 1 year ago
If something is improbable as you say the nature of the universe is, then the being creating it, without a creator becomes more difficult. Nature would always be required to generate such a complexity, and we have only seen evidence for intelligence of any magnitude emerging from evolution, let alone omniscience. There must be a basis for that beings existence. The problem becomes a recursive loop of nonsense.
stevenweir76 2 years ago
do you think that science can end the loop?
Jdog0816 2 years ago
Maybe science can end the loop. I think that matter from the vacuum explains best what we can see today. But saying that, we need to find out why the conflict of dimension exists. If we can discover why nothing could not be with regards to quantum theory (or M Theory) we will have an excellent explanation. Can it be proved? I don't know. Being inside a universe may prove difficult to explaining. It like we're in a bubble and can't see outside.
stevenweir76 2 years ago
Outside of the universe is such an odd concept. Especially when the definition of the universe states that all matter is part of it. What shape do you think the universe is? I've heard that there's evidence pointing to it being flat but it would make more sense to me if it were round because almost everything inside the universe is spherical.
Jdog0816 2 years ago
I could see the shape of the universe being anything really, It seems to me that given the universe is more dimensions than we can perceive, flat may the logical choice, considering that Quantum String Theory suggests that everything is made of 1 dimensional strings at super high tension. Again, relativity is the limitation, we can't perceive the whole universe, only things of similar or larger size to various degrees. We can only infer things mathematically and experimentally.
stevenweir76 2 years ago
Tht's when Faith comes in. God said believe with your heart, not your eyes. or something along those lines...lol....
Urbanledgend12 2 years ago
Faith is believing what you know ain't so.
-Mark Twain
stevenweir76 2 years ago
There may always be uncertainity,but I have a feeling we can infer a lot more with certainity given the state of the universe, so, overall, given time, I say we will have an explanation of our origin. We are living during a time of great leaps and bounds in this science.
stevenweir76 2 years ago
I certainly can't argue with that. Everyone says our knowledge is growing exponentially and that we're close to the near vertical line.
Jdog0816 2 years ago
awesome GOD!!!
brownstyleful 2 years ago 2
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Genesis is SOOOOOOOOOO WRONG. I declare that henceforth I consider all who believe in this creation to be mentally handicapped. Too bad I can't do that, but that would be funny. Seriously, reality is way better than this delusional BS. Quit lying to your children people.
stevenweir76 2 years ago
but they taught us in school that nothing created everything, is that not delusional
hhiibbss 2 years ago
No-one has ever taught you that nothing created everything, if they did, they lied. The latest scientific theory is called M-Theory, in which vaccuum is an energy, as powerful as pressure or matter. Experiments verify matter from the vacuum. They also verify that matter is nothing but wave flucuations in the vacuum.They also understand a lot about how the universe cooled and formed denser matter, heavier elements. I can show you links to studies. Now explain where God came from. Good luck.
stevenweir76 2 years ago
and the vacum came from.........
hhiibbss 2 years ago
If you answer my question first, I will proceed to answer yours. You religious types are all the same, answering questions with questions. On that note, where exactly did God come from, what is your hypothesis?
stevenweir76 2 years ago
lol good point i made that point before but he ignored it because he could not answer the question
theycallmelask 1 year ago
'the latest theory'? How long do you think this one will last before it is discarded in favor of an equally dubious theory?
Jdog0816 2 years ago
Do you understand how scientific theory works or how our understanding of the universe changes over time? Do you think that the theory of gravity or Newtonian physics were discarded or do they still serve a purpose? Special relativity and Quantum Theory do not reconcile without string theory, do you think the scientists discarded those or do you think they still serve a purpose. Our knowledge is growing, it's much better than was understood 2000 years ago.
stevenweir76 2 years ago
Yes, I do understand how science works, in fact it is my favorite subject, particularly the more arcane aspects of it, such as particle physics.
Jdog0816 2 years ago
There is absolutely no logic to religion for any thinking individual. The deeper you go the more the universe is reduced, not increased in complexity. To believe in religion you must believe that infinite complexity, intelligence, benevolence, and omnipotence sprang from nothing, does particle physics jive with that?
stevenweir76 2 years ago
'infinite complexity, intelligence, benevolence, and omnipotence sprang from nothing' How does science explain the universe being created? Where did the dense matter that was involved in the big bang come from. That will always be the problem with science.
Jdog0816 2 years ago
If it is a problem with science, it is a greater problem for religion. We see much evidence as to how the natural world has formed. To me it's the idea of the balance of forces. If vacuum is inherently unstable, as matter appears to be. DImension itself and the conflict therein may be responsible for all energy and thus matter. The reason the problem is greater for religion, is now you have to imagine a God being capable of creating those conditions, springing into origin ex nihilo.
stevenweir76 2 years ago
did you used to be catholic? I've never heard the phrase 'ex nihilo' used outside of the chuch
Jdog0816 2 years ago
No, I was never Catholic. But when you speak with scientific types and theologians discussing the kind of topics like this, you pick up a little latin here and there.
stevenweir76 2 years ago
you speak of balances and forces, but you do not understand the concept of nothing. God is the only explanation for matter- basic rule of science buddy: matter can not be created from nothing. Third graders know that. Only something (God) that exists beyond the restrictions of time could create time, and thus matter. time refers to the passing of events- that means at one point there was nothing, and so something had to create time and everything else.
theycallmelask 1 year ago
How can you call God the only explanation when you can't even explain God. Seriously, don't try to use logic, you'll only hurt yourself. How do you know what exists beyond time? Or even if there is such a thing? You are making grandiose claims without evidence. If someone came up to you on the street and told you that the world was on the back of a giant tortoise would you believe it? No, and your religion/beliefs makes similar claims, you just can't see how foolish they are.
stevenweir76 1 year ago
I just explained God but you did not read what i wrote well enough. It is sooooo simple: we exist in time. Before time there was eternity because eternity IS NOT BOUND BY TIME!Thus without the restriction of time, God has no beginning, no end, no birth, and no death. My brother is a teacher and his students are in the seventh grade and they understand this concept and yet you do not. I really want you to read what i wrote- understand it, dont just glance at it. If you are smart u will get it
theycallmelask 1 year ago
How do you know anything existed before time. You openly accept Einstein's definition of time based upon those principles yet you ignore all the science after that. It is falgrant hypocricy. amd you Bible worshippers never seem to notice. When physics works in your favour you quote textbooks, then you turn around and say those same textbooks, rigorously examined and tested are false when it suits you. You will never ever learn anything that way, you think they knew everything 2000 years ago.
stevenweir76 1 year ago
And if God IS the explanation, how did he do it? Would it perhaps be MAGIC!!! Even third graders know magic isn't real. We have a word for what is beyond time or the laws of the universe, it's called NOTHING!! And you also make stupid assumptions, again, no one can know. You say matter must have come from nothing, but how do you know that nothing ever existed. Try to imagine nothing. Imagining a black void perhaps, that's still something. You sound as stupid as those who write religions.
stevenweir76 1 year ago
So what again created God? Was it nothing? Nothing creates nothing, nothing does nothing. It certainly does't create matter or energy, let alone omnipotent superbeings, even you admit that. Your mind has been made feeble by your beliefs. Believe what you want. I choose to learn and understand.
stevenweir76 1 year ago
nothing creates nothing.... so the obvious observation would be that something had to ALWAYS be here. "Nothing" can't make "something." God always being here is something we can never fully understand. However, scientific theories of nothing creating nothing makes even less sense, such as the "Big Bang Theory."
ammoman95 1 year ago
Again you assume that nothing ever existed, it probably didn't. Whether you're a theolgian or a scientist, this is evident. Do you even realize that if God were real, he would be an atheist? Wrap your head around that. The Big Bang theory doesn't try to explain how the universe was kickstarted, just how it inflated. Why do you exempt God from being created by a something, whether physical or magical. You are not exempt from your own rules. Omnipotent superbeings don;t spring from nothing.
stevenweir76 1 year ago
Read my previous comments before you comment anyway. No one is coming clean to the fact that God may not, and IMO does not exist. It's called the null hypothesis, and it is a cornerstone of logic and science. It's how we know yeti and leprecauns don't exist either.
stevenweir76 1 year ago
It is absolutely not a fact that God doesn't exist. I use to think as you did... I came to realize that everything in the entire universe preaches God's name. How could you look at the sophistication of all that exists and simply say "Meh, just an accident." There's no way all of this is coincidence.
ammoman95 1 year ago
I imply the coicincidence that this happened because it did. You imply there is magic behind it. Why? For what reason? Your idea is self-serving and pointless. We're all here to serve the cosmic king, who has infinite power, knows what will happen, etc. Seriously. if there was an omnipotent being behind everything, life would be completely meaningless, we'd all be in the service of a fascist dictator who's playing "The Sims" on his Godly computer. Not buying it, not for one second.
stevenweir76 1 year ago
Not to mention that you imply the even greater coincidence that somehow what you believe is greater than what anyone else believes, it isn't. Be it religion or belief, your ideas are truly unfounded, and you have never taken the time to really think about it. You bought everything you were taught without ever thinking critically why you believe what you do. It sounds nice at first. But when the Bible describes heaven and tries to explain morality, you learn really quick what a bad idea it is.
stevenweir76 1 year ago
And the idea is manmade and infantile. A child looks at the world with fantasy, imagining mermaids and castles and dragons and angels. You don't beleive Santa Claus. Why? Becasue you outgrew the magic. Guess what? Jesus and God and Heaven and Hell are no different.
stevenweir76 1 year ago
I want you to know that i agree with you completely but this stevenweir guy is too stubborn and illogical to understand. You could tell him that the sun is bright and he would argue with you- just let it go. We both use the same basic logic, and this stevenweir person can not understand it. As to how God got here thats an easy explanation. God existed before time, thus he is not restricted to it. Before there was time there was eternity- God exists eternally, so he has no beginning and no end
theycallmelask 1 year ago
you still do not understand time. I want you to research what time is- it is a term that refers to the passing of events. Thats what time is. So if God is before time (which he is because he created it) then he had no beginning and will have no end- he was not created and will not die because he is eternal! how did God get here? He has always existed because he is not bound by time like we are. It's so simple if you can not understand this concept than i refuse to continue with you.
theycallmelask 1 year ago
What you call a dubious theory does not proclaim to be the only truth or the exact explanation, (ie. no scientist will claim to know the answer to everything).
Show me the evidence you have for the existence of Jesus and if it proves to be miraculous and passes scientific scrutiny, I'll convert.
If you don't why you believe what you believe, you should ask more questions. I want replies of why everyone believes in God and Jesus.
stevenweir76 2 years ago
well, when you think about it there is a strange logic in having a religion. Atheists are in a lose-lose situation. If you're right then you die and that's the end, nothing else happens. If we're right then you die and spend an eternity in hell. Just saying.
Jdog0816 2 years ago
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stevenweir76 2 years ago
As for the hell thing, I think we're all beyond that nonsense. Don't you? I find it far riskier to wager my one and only life that I know that I have, wasting it on something which in no way has ever presented itself to me. I find it far more heinous to live life as a lie than to fear hell. If there is an omnipotent, benevolent God, why hell anyway? It's a childish, superstitious idea, even for a theologian.
stevenweir76 2 years ago
perhaps
Jdog0816 2 years ago
@stevenweir76 that is why you will never believe in God: faith is believeing what you can not see, and only when you stop living hedonistically and seek God will you find him. Evidence for god is all around you; the stars declare his existance. Time declares his existance. The fact that we never existed and now we are here means that we were created by our parents- so who ceated the first people but a creator, namely God?
theycallmelask 1 year ago
Poor argument. Who created God?
So essentially you have an imbalance created from the true vacuum which itself is a force from which matter spontaneously creates and self-annihialtes. Quantum causality allowed for the monopole or the mechanism for the expansion of the universe. Enentually the energy coalesced into matter as it cooled, then the matter formed into stars. From stars planets were created, on some planets the conditions are ripe for life as we know it. Abiogenesis, evolution, tada.
stevenweir76 1 year ago
God exists beyond the boundaries of time- thus no one created him. You are looking at it from a perpective that involves the continium of time- God is before time, thus he has always existed. God creetd time, thus he is in a seperate dimension set apart from time. As far as the vacuum and evolution thing, you don't know what you are talking about. You say there was an imbalance- if there was nothing there would nothing inbalanced because there is nothing to imbalance!
theycallmelask 1 year ago
So while you have faith in God, I seek natural explanations from evidence. The thing is there are possible and more likely explanations for why life is the way it is today then just saying God did it. I suggest you learn astrophyics, quantum physics, biology, physics, chemistry, taxonomy, evolutionary biology. etc. etc. Then you will be closer to the truth, inferred from logic and evidence. But you just keep thinking God did it. I wouldn't want you to burn a fuse out in your brain.
stevenweir76 1 year ago
good point. This guy acts as though theories are factual evidences
theycallmelask 1 year ago
I don't act as though teories are evidence, there is evidence to support the theories. You have to think like a scientist and not a theologian if you ever want to understand what I think. I weigh the evidence, and go with the best explanation we have. Magic Sky Daddy wished planned in all and poofed it here doesn't fly with me. Especially when you consistently ignore the real question. Where did God come from if he exists, and what evidence do you have?
stevenweir76 1 year ago
The evidence which is existence is not evidence for anything other than the universe happened. Your thoughts and writings offer nothing as to why things are the way they are, nor do they account for anything real. The universe is evidence that energy exists. It can be taken as fact. Why you choose to ignore the idea that it may have arose from a vacuum condition, especially when evidence from people who study it their entire lives infers that matter spontaneously creates and self-annhilaltes.
stevenweir76 1 year ago
@stevenweir76
I'm confused. You say you know science yet you claim that matter is created out of nothing. Doesn't that go against the very reason and proof you claim - that something cannot be created out of nothing - thermaldynamics.
roastedrhino 1 year ago
I don't make any such claim about the universe being made from nothing, please explain your accusation.
stevenweir76 1 year ago
@stevenweir76
"Don't imagine outer space without matter in it. Imagine no space at all and no matter at all. To the average person it might seem obvious that nothing can happen in nothing. But to a quantum physicist, nothing is, in fact, something. Quantum theory also holds that a vacuum, like atoms, is subject to quantum uncertainties. This means that things can materialize out of the vacuum, although they tend to vanish back into it quickly..this phenomenon has never been observed directly."
roastedrhino 1 year ago
It's also called thermodynamics, not thermaldynamics, and what else do you know about thermodynamics other than the second law. Name all the laws and demonstrate that you understand them. Then we'll talk about thermodynamics. As for your obvious proof (disproof)...." this phenomenon has never been observed directly", neither has magnetism, nor has electricity, nor has gravity, but strangely you trust those because of how successful those laws and theories describe our universe.
stevenweir76 1 year ago
@roastedrhino true but quantum vacuums themselves do NOT come from nothing.
beaniewells28fan 1 year ago
@stevenweir76
PROBLEM! If nothing is something, it would seem to logically follow that there is NO nothing, there is only something!
Well, problem solved, the reason we can't get something from nothing is because there never was a nothing, there has always been only something!
roastedrhino 1 year ago
And last but certainly not least, when you say there always had to be something, I would say you are correct. But how do you claim to know what it is and why do you dismiss God, and infinite complex, omnipotent being which defies all known science and reason. You think the eye is irreducibly complex yet you have no such problems with God, that means either your logic is severely flawed or you are a hypocrite.
stevenweir76 1 year ago
@roastedrhino SIMPLE question: then where did the "something that always was" come from in the first place?!
beaniewells28fan 1 year ago
Your idea of God answers nothing in terms of reality, you cant even find two people who believe the same thing. Opinions on God or lack thereof are as individual as you or I, yet somehow you think that the explanation for our existence is common sense, it isn't. In fact, you don't have the sense to even know that you may be wrong, I do. I simply go with the most reasonable explanation. The idea of God is fascist, eternally insecure glory seeking, selfish, angry and jealous asshole.
stevenweir76 1 year ago
And as far as theories being evidence, they're not, evidence leads to theories, you start with hypothesis then reach conclusions based upon the ability of your hypothesis to accurately predict what occurs in the universe. You started with a conclusion, essentially, you guessed, and you figure you got it right the first time. Fat chance.
stevenweir76 1 year ago
the vaccuum is made from energy SO HOW DID THAT ENERGY GET HERE!? do you ever think about your theories? they must have a causal beginning- trace everything back and there is something that caused it. so what caused the first thig that triggered the universe to be created? Dont run away from this question this time- it is basic logic and you can not answer my question and you knwo it. You can attribute our existance o anything, but that anything must have had an initial cause (GOD)
theycallmelask 1 year ago
Barf!!!
stevenweir76 2 years ago
Our GOD is an AWESOME GOD!!!!!! I can't even fathom His Glory and His Majesty, in all His Holiness that He invites us to partake in. We His children are truly blessed!
rharepsalm9 2 years ago
Amen, all praises, honor and glory to God, the maker of heaven and earth.
Everytime we love one another, we glorify God for He is love. Thank you for posting this and God bless you.
lita623 2 years ago
This was powerfully annointed brother Chan! Thank you for sharing this!
Psalm142 2 years ago
I've been waiting to see videos like this. On Aug 6 I made a new banner for my blog and wrote about it, "The heavens show forth the glory of God". Today I discovered this video. Providence! Our God is an awesome God. Gloria in excelsis Deo! Bless you, Mr. Chan, for your work, and bless all who are making his work available to the rest of us.
Peace be with you.
Disciple
DiscipleOfChrist96 2 years ago 2
p.s. i'll be praying for ya brother (or sister)!
MachinaXIII 2 years ago
i knw the song is streamside , from the album leaf! I love francis chan! I used to be a christian, but now i am a proud agnostic! I think religion can be good, but i think it is better to realize what science and rational can tell us. jesus is not real look at history look at science, lok at truth before the bible, and mankind can become better!
cornlee22 2 years ago
Keep searching. Listen to more Francis Chan. Christianity is not about religion. It is a love story from the Creator of heaven and earth, the Creator of astrophysics, microbiology and rationality to u and me-- with faults, who make mistakes, and don't deserve His love...and yet He gives it freely. I have my degrees. History validates Scripture. Science points to its Creator. Spend some time studying...look hard. Dig deeper. "I will be found by you if you seek me with all your heart" Jer. 29:13
maruby95 2 years ago 2
the bible is truth.
historically, jesus did exist.
mankind would be perfect if we could all follow the teaching's of the bible, but we can't that's why we need jesus.
science and rational are great! don't get me wrong. but science has it's limits.
i'm not saying it's good to be blind in your faith.
wrestle with God. challenge yourself to grow.
the life of a Christian is one full of struggles.
the decision is yours, to take the easy way out and live of this world, or to live for a higher cause
MachinaXIII 2 years ago 2
wow that was pretty cool... whats the name of this Sermon????
does anyone know the name of the SONG IN THE VID?!? =)
oneace85 2 years ago
You can find all of his messages on iTunes... Cornerstone Simi Audio Podcast...all free hit it up!
calvinbombs 2 years ago 2
WOW! What an awesome God we serve!
IamNotButIKnowIAm88 2 years ago 2
is there anywhere I can get this whole sermon?
BoogieBot91 2 years ago