How Music Works 1 - Melody - Part 5

[alphabet661]

In sum, some of the oddness and difficulty one may encounter with contemporary classical music Shoenberg, Ferneyhough, Babbit stems from the use of "microtones" as found in blues and the desire to explore new scales outside major/minor AND the ancient modes.

[alphabet661]

Also, the bending of the rung in the blues in a way forecasted profound developments in classical music. Such bending actually was notated in some music of the 16th century - Despres. But it is rare. There may have been more done by improvising musicians because the ficta the commentator mentions - that is the sharpening and flattening of notes was at first left to the performers in ancient music - just as in much blues music - when it was first notated the "bends" were not notated.

[alphabet661]

Ah, what about the rise of serial composition and its influence upon melody?

It would explain in greater depth why some composers rerturned to the ancient modes.

[brennanyoung]

@Weissman33 it's not the musicians that are greedy punks (though some, like Gene Simmons, are), it's the record companies and their lawyers. Most musicians struggle to make a living, and those that do, do so from session work and/or live concerts and self-made CDs, sold at gigs. A trickle of income can come from modern distribution networks like iTunes (etc.) but the idea that musicians generally are greedy punks is truly 'ludacrious'.

[bsbsnuck]

can anyone tell me what the song at 7:36 is ? I know its melody too well, but I just can't name it. please, anyone ?

[vonNaaat]

@bsbsnuck It's

still the same Coldplay song from earlier: 'Fix You'

[DemoticVEVO]

Great show, I'm kinda' annoyed that there were no references to heavy metal. It's not just Blues that touches on the flat 5th.

[Bm23CC]

@DemoticVEVO very true, the tritone is pivotal to metal.Still , its a great series. I think people think that metal heads have absolutely no music value or knowledge whatsoever which is totally wrong, as many metal players are really good jazz players and know a lot about theory.

[StratMatt777]

@DemoticVEVO Rock, Metal, Pop and Soul are based on the Blues. That was his conclusion at the end with the Simon and Garfunkel song. Pop melds everything together. Popular mainstream music includes pop, rock, metal, soul...

[ainhoator]

@DemoticVEVO But Heavy Metal stems from blues ultimately and therefore one could argue that Heavy Metal touches the flat 5th because it is a "by-product" (not meaning no offence by "by-product") of blues.

[MrsCantey]

I think using clips should be OK...it's like free advertising for the musicians. But to post an entire work for people to download or listen to for free is theft. If people create music, art, technical devices, whatever, then they should be compensated by folks who use their creation.

[markgray1109]

they should put bags over the singers heads

[0Elijah0]

can anyone tell me what that song is at 2:00 ? it is very beautiful

[solarinox]

@0Elijah0 I've been looking that song a long time ago... :( ....i love it....

[Drworm89]

@solarinox The song at 2:00 is, "Kate Rusby - The Wild Goose". I thank earlier comments for giving me the answer.

[asaphjeffrey]

@Weissman33 Sorry, but musicians work very hard and I think if they want to make you buy their work, then they should.

[PorcupineFloyd68]

@Weissman33 You mean record labels.

[datalal624]

"Bridge Over Troubled Water" is such a great tune to close out this program. Simon & Garfunkel FTW! :)

[astricii]

@Weissman33

Correction, that's record labels who have the audacity to draw up contracts that give them ownership of a songwritters work and sue anyone who doesn't pay them for someone else's labour.

[noudthe3rd]

Does anyone know what version of 'blue skies' is in the video? @6:30

[pgotbeats]

@Weissman33 replace the word 'musicians' with 'Major Record Companies' and your statement rings true.

[ahigherorderofart]

How sad that they can't see the educational beauty and even promotional benefits to themselves. If you ever release a dvd of the series, please let me know- it is really fantastic!

[valiantcold]

@Weissman33

Code has been around a heartbeat in comparison to Music.

Second Stupid you say writing code is difficult,Yes it is but it will always be emotionless. Its a lot harder to write a song that touches or moves a person. People use music for a different reason than using code or interfaces.

Music is the Car code is the Road.

[jamesdierx]

Thanks!

[wentbackward]

British documentaries are incredible pieces of work. Art presenting art. Like a good engraving of a musical score.

[blossom114]

@Weissman33 It's not wise to call someone an idiot when you can't even use the correct form of you are. It's you're...not your.

[MikDonsen]

ROFL I love how the celts and africans made blues, all the protestants brought was an even lamer version of church music.

[MrImjustjoel]

shit just reading these peoples comments makes me feel 1 really young and really dump

[shalomamigos]

I would be bored out of my mind if I had to watch that entire ballet.

[Truthzilla]

@Weissman33 Sigh... No, the issue is that companies like Google and Comcast and others are getting stinking rich by selling ads and they can do that because vast numbers of people come here go get illegal content. It's not the musicians who are wrong here. It's the vast ocean of thieves and the companies that are getting rich off of the work of others. This documentary has just gotten caught up in that struggle. STop blaming the wrong people.

[CS80undermybed]

@Weissman33 Well said! That is why I love piracy, and I pirate everything to buggery at every opportunity! And I AM a music lover- I just hate the music 'business'.

[npduby]

thank you very much this is great stuff

[VrapperMcH]

thanks a lot, this series is priceless :))

[DudasMiska]

Pretty suprised how he doesnt talk about Trance and electronic dance music in general as these genres are the ones that include a little bit of everything and are beautiful and melodic...

[drwuggles]

Are you kidding me? What you said is like my saying "Suprised he didnt talk about rap music." Electronica, HipHop and other similar music; are just simplified, repetative, electronic versions of what he talked about. Which meens they don't really need to be mentioned cause they haven't really inspired or changed any rules or sounds in basic music theory.

[DudasMiska]

Who are you to judge what needs to be mentioned? Your just ignorant towards the modern dance/club genres. Besides i wasent talking about rap and hip hop, its obvious you dont have a broad knowledge of music, which is ok, but trust me, trance/progressive/house is revolutionary, it has come so far since its early days in the 80s which was techno..electronic dance music is pretty incredible, its much more complicated then what you imagine it to be, all originating from the primitive days of music.

[corran23x]

House, trance and EDM contributed much more to other areas of music than melody. I'm sure that these will come up in the sections of rhythm and bass.

[Kingpin0072001uk]

That was a good watch, surprised how there wasn't a single mention of chords though, or at least I don't think there was because I was watching it while playing my own guitar

[moogwol]

chords come under harmony, which is a whole other episode.

[Kingpin0072001uk]

disagree, chords are the first thing any guitar player would learn under any book or teacher, harmomy ism't chords it's an adjacant bass note that works with the melody.

To learn modes before chords is............................­..............................­....... Well it just wont happen anyway, you need to know chords for a basis, and before you know chords you at least need to know the notes behind them, or at least the 1,3,5. MODES is just fucking crazy!

[TwoTones]

From wikipedia: In music, harmony is the use of simultaneous pitches (tones, notes), or chords.

I understand where you're coming from, but you need to think beyond guitar. The is about melody, ie. a succession of notes. Harmony would be multiple notes being played at the same time, such as in a chord or when singing a harmony. Think of the word "harmony", it's about things working together.

[nickeax]

The title is 'Melody'.

[timmy47]

anyone know whos doing that version of blues skies? best version ive heard. love the feel of it.

[mmmusic339]

yeah I know its pretty amazing, the tones in the brass, his voice and the piano go so well. I'm relatively sure that's Irving Berlin singing, not just because he wrote it but I watched a documentary on mid-20th century pop songs and his speaking voice is similar. Haven't found the actual full version yet but I'm looking too

[Blixzit]

A lot of times it's not the musicians, but the labels with whom they've signed to that make those types of decisions. Then again, I'm young and naive... still, if you enjoy the art, you should be supportive of the artist. Not necessarily monetarily either.

[leahcim38]

Blah blah blah. They make music, you just make an awful noise.

That's why they are worth more. Get over it.

[ragerpez]

thats why heavy metal rules!!!! oh no wait metallica are like that...

[myunclesnephew]

What is the song they play beginning at 2:00??? It sounds like the Rankin Family or something. They show no song credit on the screen, neither during the song nor in the end credits

[ryanmurphy15]

Kate Rusby - "The Wild Goose"

[myunclesnephew]

thanks. i had never heard of her...she's great.

[hammerguy1512]

very true, there are not many true artists

[FretboardToAsh]

I like it, but they should indeed piss off with all the coldplay. It's not like it's the only pop music around if I even had an interest in pop music in general.

[TFrenchy]

@FretboardToAsh Their just trying to save production costs



[Reisgar42]

@FretboardToAsh Piss off? They played it once for about 20 seconds without any vocals and didn't mention who it was.

[maltagallo]

seeing this makes me understand music more

[andychrist9502]

why did #4 want me to buy a coldplay song, but this one doesn't want me to buy the sting song? is modern pop being shoved down my throat?

[maxosaurous]

can anyone tell me what that second to last song is called the one that sounds like coldplay? thanks

[alveraan1]

It is from Coldplay and called Fix You ;-)

[ronzy]

That piano intro to 'Bridge Over..." sent shivers down my spine.

[davidpmacdonald]

Would've been interesting to see the discussion include Jazz, especially how a form like Free Jazz would fit into the evolution of music.

[speakercoilmusic]

go watch the bass and harmony section... They cover jazz in those.

[ebolart]

can anyone tell me the name of the sailor song that starts at 2:00?

[ebolart]

already found out myself, it's Kate Rusby - The Wild Goose

[skyke12]

thx a lot!!!!

[giddyupya]

damn good show...........would have appreciated some more depth regarding jazz and the different modes, but still a good vid = )

[aliquidcow]

Thanks so much for uploading these, I missed the first episode when it aired. The rest of the series was fantastic though, even as someone who's played music for 15 years, it's always good to be reminded of the fundamental stuff in an engaging way, and Howard Goodall is brilliant at this.

He did a series called 20th Century Greats which I caught a bit of, it was also fantastic.

[vinlock123]

who fucking cares if is not autorized .. information should be free

[thomandy]

This video contains an audio track that has not been authorized by WMG. The audio has been disabled. More about copyright"

=(

Love these videos!!! 5* for them all

[timegrinder]

Vid back up.

[thomandy]

Great! :)

[jamespiperca]

@thomandy The vid played right through for me w full audio & the Simon song at the end.  I guess someone realized it was allowed under "fair use" as it should be.

[JaredChacon]

what happened to the audio? Will it get back?

[timegrinder]

Unfortunatly the entire audio for this vid has been removed as WMG have a copyright claim on a short clip in it :-/ Bass part 4 also has copyright issues and i have been considering refuting these claims on the basis of educational fair use, which is unlikely to succeed. The only other option is to reupload the vids with the clips taken out.

[philmacari]

thanks indeed and it if it could be up without the clips at leas that would be something

phil

[timegrinder]

Would seem all disputed vids are now back up.

[jamesdragonforce]

@timegrinder WMG is an enemy of free speech.

[andjoha]

Thanks for these series man! :)

[PeterInglisGuitar]

Looks at melodic developments in 20th century popular music, including Sting's: "We work the Black Sea" - using the ancient Dorian mode! Looks at how Irish and Anglo folk traditions and the Shakers' religious music, met African music. Concludes with Paul Simon's "Bridge over troubled Water."

[timegrinder]

Nice summaries Peter... il put them in the description if i may?

[PeterInglisGuitar]

Please do!

[PeterInglisGuitar]

... and a correction: "We work the Black Seam" ;>)