Busted for Growing Veggies! Reason.tv's Nanny of the Month for September 2010

[TakeYourProfits]

sounds like we spent a lot of money fighting communism overseas when it looks like we got a homegrown problem right here.

[mthargoe]

3 commies disliked this video

[sfuzzyshille]

What a racist bastard

[1980PintoMan]

Even here in Montana a Ravalli County Supervisor wanted permits issued for gardens. He was not re-elected.

[mutilATE718]

Wait a minute, CEO of Dekalb County? So a county is a corporation?

The founding fathers and their "slaves" aren't spinning in their graves, they're smoking their weed in heaven and laughing at us.

[NoLongerFooled]

It was almost better to live under Nazism. America is on a fast track to becoming the worst nation in the history of mankind.

[TubeRuleEnforcer]

(red herring 2 : a diversion intended to distract attention from the real issue) -- Religion poisons everything? What role has religion in the centralized, fractional-reserve banking of fiat money (money that represents debt, not capital; money that is created from nothing; money that accrues usurious interest)? What role does religion play in the Anglo-American Alliance's master plan to create a planet-wide totalitarian government based on Malthusian eugenics? None.

[webfulcrum]

This new guy must be out to break the record Vernon Jones established as the dirtiest, crook in DeKalb County History.

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Ignorant and Unfit.

[absalutebeginner]

check out 1984 complete control of food & water

codex alimentarius

alan watt cutting through the matrix talks on the above subjects.

[hardinmichael1981]

I think we should not over react. Not all zoning laws are so illogical. Most are there to make sure we don't drown in a sea of pavement.

[RansackTheElder68]

watch out people, you can all go to jail for dissent soon. I tried to put a link up for a story but it wont allow me, so search for New Obama Law Warned Will Jail 500,000 Americans.... These traitors and thieves should be shot where they stand.

[overtaxed79]

I heard from a friend that back in the 90s a bill in congress made it illegal to grow a victory garden.

[lsh3rd]

Some people call him the space cowboy, some call him the gangster of vegatables.

[sukumvit]

@lsh3rd But we say:

Fuck the produce,

Growin' straight from under the ground.

Potatoes get it worse 'cause they brown!

If it's not from the supermarket, DeKalb think,

they can pass legislation to ban this vegetation!

[tremben]

You guys who say democracy stinks call me a liberal faggot.

You're lazy stupid thugs.

Read history.

It's your type who supported Hitler ... state socialism. He hated liberal faggots. Just like you.

You hate democracy, because you're lazy and stupid. Not brain surgery / rocket science. You love making up hateful things because you're no-life thugs. Not sub-atomic physics.

You're sick twisted lazy stupid thugs. Is what.

[singlaprety12]

@tremben who are you repying to

[Hal337]

GROW VEGGIES IN PROTEST

[tremben]

@Hal337 "Veggies" pretty much describes the crowd here. "I disagree with this rule therefore I don't understand it". Dumb/foolish/stupid. "I'm too lazy to get involved so democracy sucks." Dumb/stupid/lazy. "I let others do things then bitch and complain." Selfish/childish/dumb.

[michaelencarnacion]

@tremben You, sir, sound like a liberal faget. Please tell me exactly why you would condone the gov. acting like this.

[tremben]

@michaelencarnacion And your an ignorant thug. You say I condone it, but I don't. I never said I condone it. You make things up cuz you're a stupid thug. You make things up, they make things up, you're all stupid and lazy. If you had half a brain you'd participate and make things better. But you're a lazy stupid thug.

The decision was stupid. The law was stupid. They're lazy and stupid. You're lazy and stupid.

Take part or shut up.

[InfraRedNeck]

“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism,’ they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”

- Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

[scoocheeful]

Freedom from the slave system is what bothers the crims in powe.,Freedom to grow your own food, freedom not to eat toxic GM crap, freedom from food devoid of nutrients, freedom from the 100's of di$ea$e$ that low vitamin food cause. Freedom is not what the totalitarian criminals want, they want poisoned slave consumers, nice victims they can leech off.

[quizerry]

This is why there are to many stupid regulation on the books passed by stupid politicians who are clueless . Government passes them and the small business and consumer pay the price.

[CurtHowland]

@dpattiris Government IS a religion. The blind faith that these people here are those who "legitimately" rule others.

Heresy is to question that 'legitimacy".

Watch how the faithful, regardless of sect, react when that "letigimacy" is declared false.

The heretic must be cleansed of their sin, or at least pay their taxes anyway.

[lives2live]

I've got an idea....how about when you realize a law in encroaching on someone's ability to grow food for themselves, rather than accosting that individual you could change the friggin zoning laws!

[kasrkinmullet]

haha, this reminds me of the license people need to arrange flowers

[ArtStone]

Well, his real crime is he isn't registered with the Federal government as a "safe" food grower - after that bogus peanut butter scare opened the law to more tracking and more control of food distribution. We must be controlled for our own good!

[RansackTheElder68]

@ArtStone funny how that peanut problem was from a licensed grower/distributor...

[deadpammy]

This is so stupid, now you can't grow veggies in your own yard? What the hell is wrong with this picture. I'm so sick and tired of these IDIOTS in government.

[MacGirvan]

Bureaucrats suck!

[tremben]

"I can't understand why!" ... sure you can, buddy. You disagree so you stop thinking? Zoning applies impartially ... farily ... to everybody. If you stop making sense to win an argument, then you deserve a brick in the head.

Yes, you do understand why. You understand exactly why. Precisely. Stop with the non-sense. Try being reasonable.

[tabre]

This is insane. Local zoning departments have waaaayy too much power. I know first hand because I have dealt with the zoning department in my own city and got shafted.

[tremben]

@tabre - Lemme guess: you wanna make a revolution cuz "There are no more peaceful ways to say no", but you're too lazy and selfish to do the spade work of making local government work. Were you there to debate the zoning regulations? No. But now you bitch and kwetch.

Typical crack-pot.

[tabre]

@tremben No. The last thing I want to see is a revolution and I do still believe that things can be settled peacefully. I was not there to fight the creation of any zoning regulations because they were set in place before I was born. Furthermore, the zoning regulations used against me did not apply to me, but were stretched to stop me from doing something the board didn't like on a personal level. I tried to fight their decision at a hearing. You should stop talking about things you don't know.

[LiberAnarchy]

Mind boggling.... 

[captainimij]

let the man have a garden

[anryth]

zoning laws are dumb, one of the many reasons why cities like houston are dominating cities like cleveland.

[jpc51768]

thats fuckin stupid

[dukee155]

Just wondering breaking zoning laws means that he was on someones property

[akashm2611]

@dukee155 not necessarily, breaking zoning laws also means using your property for a purpose other than what your area is allowed to. so in this case, he lives in a RESIDENTIAL zone, and i assume that that much farming results in him stepping over into the AGRICULTURAL/FARMING zone.

[dukee155]

@akashm2611 ohh I thought that he grew it on someones property or something because then it would have been constitutional to make him move it.

[RansackTheElder68]

@akashm2611 I bet if it was all tree's, shrubs & flowers it would be ok, but since he can eat it, its bad. WTF is going on in this country!!! Time to stand up for what is right!!!!

[akashm2611]

@RansackTheElder68 yeah exactly. they assume that because hes growing 'x' amount of crops that hes going to be selling it because its too much for personal use. and if he sells it then he will probably sell it for lower prices than farmers etc who have to deal with distribution etc.

and of course, eventually ALL the farmers will go out of business, because joe bloggs over there decided to sell some of his extra vegetables to his neighbours bob and mary.

man those neolithic times sounded good

[kev3d]

I love Reason, but I need to stop watching the videos, I get so infuriated sometimes I feel a cerebral hemorrhage coming on.

[carlumbonnie]

Its all about the money. To many people in need of welfare to pay for. Find him and make him pay. because he is smart enough to do something for hlmself. This is goverment with there hand out , give me your money.All of it

[bsabruzzo]

Another irony to this is the fact that First Lady Michelle Obama did that whole thing about growing your own gardens as a way to be nutritious, save money and get involved with your family. She even did that fake "I'm growing a garden at the White House" schtick.

[Fredericks3214]

@bsabruzzo Got to say real quick, don't make mindless comparisons to separate levels of government. This is a specific city zoning law. Not a federal law.

[bsabruzzo]

@Fredericks3214 Understood. But just because one is federal and one is state does not mean both don't have progressive roots or the same goals.

After all the TEA Party movement is a group of individuals with similar goals, The CA gay marriage and AZ immigration laws were state laws. And at one time slavery was a state issue (depending on who you listen to). All became a federal concern.

Banning transfats, sodas and other "bad food" is a state issue. And health insurance should be.

[mathers3000]

I've never herd of this stuff before, Nanny. Now I understand the drug war, I thought it was mainly for money but now I see it, it is just those nanny's. Got to protect us all, we are in a free country including the choice to make bad decisions. They all hate growing, and being independant.

[erickthegreat98]

ok, without researching this mind you, I would guess they're drawing the line on what would be considered a farm versus a garden. How much is considered a farm? I don't know.

[MegF142857]

I'm sure they want him to instead have a mono-culture of mowed to required height and edged grass. You must conform!

[freesk8]

Great video!

[standj21]

The Guy also gives his food away to the needy, and that's also problem, apparently.

[rooftopeagle]

Old fool should have known you need to register your gardens with the Empire!

[Mastikator]

This is really typical of the state. Break peoples legs, then they give you a crutch, make you pay for it and say you wouldn't be able to walk without them. What really pisses me off is how people always make excuses for this shit, like Stockholm syndrome.

[kev3d]

@Mastikator That's one of the best metaphors I have heard on the subject. May I repeat it? 

[Mastikator]

@kev3d Go for it.

[TheCandaceH]

Tyranny! Everybody should grow a garden in their back yard and fight back! Absolutely a shame to have to be fined for growing food! I'M SO PISSED OFF!

[FairEnterprise]

Stuck in admiralty?

Assert your rights, your GOD given Natural rights!

Stuff the peppers and the legislation

[CurtHowland]

Jeff Cooper's word for "busybody" comes to mind,

"Polypragmatoi"

People who just cannot leave other people alone.

[aircooledvw62]

"We are stardust, billion year old carbon, and we've got to get ourselves back to the garden."

[bsabruzzo]

Interestingly, this seems to be a bookend to the point in FDR's administration when the Supreme Court increased the Federal Gov't's reach into a private citizen's garden and shattered the protection of personal property via the commerse clause.

In 1942 Wickard v. Filburn determined that if you grow food in your own garden for your own consumption, you take money from large farms that sold in stores, thus harming interstate commerse.

[order9066]

@bsabruzzo  Well said.

[averagejoe040]

Seems bizarre, but no more bizarre than some Supreme Court decisions.

I don't understand HOW growing vegetables on your own lot could possibly be a problem for your neighbors or your town.

[THAWK3]

But...

I bet both of you below me vote.

[CurtHowland]

@THAWK3 I will admit that I do vote, but only to say "No". It's one more peaceful opportunity to do so.

Every bond measure, every tax, basically everything that comes up that isn't a repeal, I vote "No".

If I know the candidate and approve, I might vote for him. If I don't know them or disapprove, I do not. Most all of the candidate slots on my ballots are blank.

But I did get to vote for Ron Paul twice, 1988 and 2008. I'm looking forward to doing so again.

[THAWK3]

@CurtHowland

You would think 5000 yrs of written history would get you to see that "Government" is an open TRANSFER OF WEALTH SCHEME...and to vote gives moral sanction to a coercive,destructive system.

They are stealing evrything from you...family,spirituality,mone­tarly,intellectually-ALL OF IT-Over a "Mental Fiction".

[CurtHowland]

@THAWK3 I don't disagree with you.

But when all the peaceful ways to say "No" are taken away, what's left?

[THAWK3]

@CurtHowland

Check out voluntaryism-it's an excellent moral and philosophical choice.

[CurtHowland]

@THAWK3 ...or agorism, or anarcho-capitalism, or any of the words used to describe entirely voluntary interaction between individuals.

Yep, all for it. Thanks.

[soldierz18]

Man govt has gotten to big when you hear people getting ticketed for growing food on their own property.

[CurtHowland]

@soldierz18 it's against my CC&R to grow food in my front yard, I expect that if the economy gets much worse they won't be enforcing that any more.

Victory Gardens.

[CurtHowland]

@soldierz18 Mr. Burrell Ellis needs to be fined for bringing nuisance suits and wasting the court's time.

Oh, and for having too many double letters in his name!

[michaelencarnacion]

What harm could it possibly do to grow your own food? This is fucking ridiculous.

[smhutson]

@michaelencarnacion no American should be allowed to be self sufficient. At no time should you be able to survive in a crisis. You must rely on the Government like the rest of us. Why should he get fresh food when the rest of us are in line for our daily ration of bread. This guy also needs to be paying far higher taxes. Our government should not have to live at our standard since they are so much better than we are. This poor black politician is obviously hurting and needs the money.

[tremben]

@michaelencarnacion So no zoning regulations. And no car registration. And no drivers licences. And no contracts. So no rule of law.

If it grunts like a cave-man, and mumbles like a cave-man, and reasons like a cave-man, maybe it's just a cave-man.

Can fix it? so break it more. How lame are you /really/?!

[CurtHowland]

@tremben "So no zoning regulations. And no car registration. And no drivers licences"

Sounds great. Prosecute people who actually harm others, rather than punishing everyone because of fear someone "might" do harm.

"And no contracts"

Contracts are between individuals. Removing the institution of coercion changes nothing.

"So no rule of law"

Non-sequiter. There is no rule of "law" now, since what is "law" is merely the opinion of the cop/court/politician at the moment, and it changes constantly.

[tremben]

@michaelencarnacion - @michaelencarnacion So no zoning regulations. And no car registration. And no drivers licences. And no contracts. So no rule of law.

If it grunts like a cave-man, and mumbles like a cave-man, and reasons like a cave-man, maybe it's just a cave-man.

Can't fix it? too stupid? too damned lazy?

So break it more. How lame are you /really/?!

[sukumvit]

@tremben Zoning regulations in most Western countries SHOULD be looser. Come to Japan - where zoning regulations are so lax that there's high rise next door to rice paddies, I was allowed to build exactly the house I wanted, as I designed it, and everyone grows an entire back-yard full of vegetables AND nobody cares and it really doesn't matter. Good stuff!

[tremben]

@sukumvit I don't disagree about zoning regs, I disagree with, "Oh look at me I did just what I wanted over and over and over again and the nasty nasty nasty Nazis have wacked my peepee" and folk cheer like that's heroic.

FWIW I have a roof garden.

[TheConspiracyRealist]

@michaelencarnacion There's no profit in it! And it's healthy!  The government/corporations don't want people being healthy and saving money.

[AGeNt7eVeN]

@michaelencarnacion WHAT HARM!?!?!?! ARE YOU CRAZY!!

If people grow there own food there will be no need to sell expensive chemicals that we dont need. No need to visit the super markets, no need to buy processed crap that is made from corn derivatives.... Do you know how much stock prices could drop or how many jobs could be lost? The food industry is big business. Imagine intelligent self sustaining indivisuals running about the place.. Imagine no trucks using oil to transport food... SCARY!

[TwiztedAnimator]

@michaelencarnacion The only thing I can think of that would cause the city to come down on this man would be that he isn't paying any sales tax on the food he is eating... Which is still ridiculous because he pays property taxes, which I am sure are outrageous. People in Government only do what they do to make themselves feel important and to justify their job. They don't help anyone but themselves and their friends.

[cdltpx]

What a group of hard asses any HOA/government agency that forbids people from growing food should themselves have to go hungry for a week. People should be allowed to grow food on property that they dont own all too often there are plots of land that is owned by family or investors they just let it sit if there is someone that can put that land to use where it would not greatly affect the land they should be allowed to do so. This would give kids something to do if they wanted a job.

[MsWanderer1]

That's an indication of a government that has too much money and too many resources to waste; let's reduce both by starting with the dick-head CEO's job!

[CurtHowland]

@MsWanderer1 This is exactly the sort of incident that makes me believe...

Anarchy! It could not possibly be worse!

[bweazel]

Hear, hear. I can take care of myself just fine. I don't need to be protected by laws or government

[CurtHowland]

@bweazel The laws that people obey, like those against theft and murder, will always be obeyed because they arise out of our natural tendency to form peaceful societies.

The laws that people generally do not obey, like alcohol and drug prohibitions, speed limits, sodomy prohibitions, etc, are creations of statute law that do not arise from peaceful society.

They are, in fact, artifacts of the corruption, violence and arbitrary power of the state itself.

[bweazel]

So.... I don't understand what any of what you said relates to what I was saying. Help me out here.

Are you really so naive to believe that everyone obeys laws against murder and theft?

[CurtHowland]

@bweazel "Are you really so naive to believe that everyone obeys laws against murder and theft?"

% of the population who rob and murder, about 2% not including govt workers for whom that's their job.

% of the population who speed on the highway, about 99+%

There will always be sociopaths. The worst thing "we" can do is grant them an institution where they can murder and rob others with Sovereign Immunity.

[bweazel]

Ok, so again.. what does anything you're saying have to do with what I initially said, which is I don't need to be protected by laws or government. You're not really making yourself clear, actually, you're supporting my stance more than anything else. 

[CurtHowland]

@bweazel "actually, you're supporting my stance"

Indeed yes, because I agree with you completely.

Individuals come together to solve problems voluntarily. Private defensive agencies will occur, just like private investigators do now.

So in fact you, I, and each of us can take care of ourselves just fine.

Govt is nothing but a parasitic mob of thugs.

[bweazel]

Well.... that explains it. Bwahaha. Couldn't agree more.

[420deew420]

What a bunch of Micky mouse bull shit!!!!

Everyone should be allowed to grow their own food,what the hell is this world coming to..

[fegolem]

This makes me sick! Government needs to leave people ALONE in their private homes.

Surely Steve Miller and his garden-for-FIFTEEN-YEARS should be grand-fathered in. On the other hand, it's a ridiculous zoning law.

[nsolcis]

wow someone needs to throw a pie at that man who did this

[TheAmusingHeckler]

I love how these Corperate crooks act gangsta by using a twerp like that county politican to threaten Mr.Miller with lame extrotion tactics......i can't wait till these white collared greedy cowards get shot at by the people they fuck over and i mean with weapons since they think they gangtsa be treated like one pansies.

[mosquewatcher]

Our politicians are idiots.

[empacae]

Why the hell would they ban the retro arcade?

[bleckmon]

What a surprise they should throw that bumb out doesnt he have anything better to do than complain about someone growing food?

[didytom]

Someone should kick that nannies ass - literally. Stuff veggies down his throat until he passes out.

[diaverde09]

That's bull. 

[Wcoltd]

Veggies are gross! GIVE HIM THE DEATH PENALTY! ;P

[RaymondDundas]

sick fucks

[MagicMono10]

People always say Capitalism is ruining our lives, but they fail to point out that the government is the catalyst for these corporations to dictate our lives.

Solution: Get rid of government.

[krypekeeper]

its funny, alex jones said this bout 2 years ago, there gonna eventually make it illegal to grow your own food. its starting 

[1974cpdmm]

@krypekeeper Yup, they are starting small with something the general public will over look and use it as law on everyone else. They do not want us growing organic as it cuts into the big boys profits.

[krypekeeper]

@1974cpdmm yep

[bsabruzzo]

@krypekeeper He was 66 years late on that prediction. See 1942 Wickard v. Filburn US Supreme Court. A farm on private property can take away business of a large farming corporation, thus it can be regulated by the federal government via the commerse clause of the Constitution.

I don't agree with it, but this case opened up the door to regulating anything the congress wants to.

[blite13]

@bsabruzzo Wow, good research, just another example of a long process of "corporating" the country. They got us by the balls, each step, taken carefully so it isn't exposed, media helped. America is a military state, financed by Global corps, step by step, sooner or later, somethings got to give.I'm suprised that America isn't kicking and screaming yet, that they are so afraid of being pegged as unpatriotic so they stay silent. Whatever they are putting in the water, it's working.

[mutilATE718]

@blite13 Americans are so different, of so many different 'cultures', appearances, beliefs, etc... How do you even define an American anymore? I'm from Queens, NY I nod and smile at people who know not a word of English all the time. Who's more American, really? The guy whose family has been here for generations, the "Native" in the teepee, the gay or lesbian (of ANY race or religion), etc etc we barely know where we stand as individuals in this place.. or perhaps Im just speaking for myself..

[Fredericks3214]

@krypekeeper Funny thing is, zoning laws like this have been in effect for a lot longer than 2 years ago.

[krypekeeper]

@Fredericks3214 whats even more funny is the guy has had the farm for 15 years

[Fredericks3214]

@krypekeeper I never said it was okay. But dont claiming that "Alex Jones predicted this". Things like this have been happening for years.

[MagnusIan]

Fuck. This is my own state. Just goes to show that no matter where you are or what you do, some nanny motherfucker probably wants to prevent you from living your own goddamn life how you see fit.

[sdfkjllshadflhadfshl]

Everyone in that county should completely cover their properties with vegetables next spring. Not a blade of grass should be found in the whole county by next July.

[onvogmasaj]

that may be the nanniest month yet!

[yakyakyak69]

This is why there are new anti-terror laws being made every day.

The Domestic Enemy Statists are afraid of We, the People....