CamTrak II in the NJ Hirailers Subway

[StickFight775]

And a Redbird!

[StickFight775]

What? Did I saw a R12-14 work train?

[StickFight775]

Wh

[prorobo]

This is incredible. Love the 3rd rail detail. Wicked amazing!

[littleevan99]

Was it a Lionel R27 subway cars? It sounded like them?

[RailRide]

@littleevan99

Yes, those are the Lionel ones pushing the camera car.

[manny298]

NY NY... I love New York... This is why I live in Miami now...

[MrBlaqBobbi]

Agree with Parrot, graffiti is not the best use of talents in our inner cities, but it is a part of life, and it adds to the "reality" of the model. I say paint a few more of and paint over them to show a repaint job! Graffiti can be "art" just as all paintings have the POTENTIAL to be "art".

[kemoblue4u]

i agree with him....graffiti is NOT art...it is ugly vandalism....it looks disgusting...and i live in NYC i see it all the time.

[RerailMe]

U assume that this is o scale?

[parrot0051]

And only sick morons like you mark up places, just like male dogs who piss to mark their territory ... no difference.

[parrot0051]

Sorry...... art is in museums or at art shows never scrawled on walls or any thing else when are people going to wake up ? but what is done on model layouts well heh,heh, knock yourselves out. BTW the layout is awesome and the work is outstanding.

[myleftnutts]

@parrot0051 I Don't like grafitti,however art is whatever people consider it to be,Not what's in museums,like they tell u it is,like Beauty,Art is in the eye of the beholder.

[cat4forlife]

Awesome all you need is a block sinal system and ur there.

[drfate234]

Good man, I and other members of Sub Chat are strongly against this graffiti and even being on models presents to some it's OK to vandalise these subway cars and buildings in general, great layout.

[th3gtr]

@drfate234 Graffiti makes the cars look realistic. New York's subway isn't that clean compared with JR equipment. I don't tag and it's a crime. But I'm saying while most of it isn't so good, like many other things, some graffiti is pretty amazing to look at. Sometimes there's layers upon layers of colors and images that are really unique. You would have to be good to be able to produce those images.

[drfate234]

Awesome layout, although I can't understand WHY there's a repsentation of griffity on the subway cars, this is a sick

thing to include on a layout, and people who like this crap are just as sick as the people who do it as this IS NOT ART.

[RailRide]

That's largely the work of one person who does custom "re-decorations".

I prefer my trains clean as well, so I just ignore his :)

[nukinfuts1000]

@drfate234 They just tryed to make the layout more realistic it doesnt mean they like it, Its a fact most train cars are covered in graffeti in the US. So the only reason they did it was for more realism.

[infernodood3]

@drfate234 first of its graffiti, second off its on there because its found on real subways all the time and third off it is art despite the fact its illegal and classed as vandalism

[natera87]

@drfate234 thats retarded if u dont think grAffiti is art.. ur just ignorant

[theshugchannel]

@drfate234 grafitti is how it is spelled

[gamer709]

@drfate234 i am a graffiti artist and i say artist because i paint art graffiti is just a part of the subway i dont paint trains nor subway but graffiti is a part of the subway i like them better when they are clean but this guy wanted a model train as in scaled and not a model as in role model he saw that graffiti is on and in every subway and just put graffiti on his train as a detail

[prorobo]

@drfate234 A layout is a MODEL of REAL LIFE. In a perfect world, there would be no weathering of equipment, rails, ballast, or anything like that and a layout would look like toys. Realism includes graffiti.

[Skiier1000]

this is sooo realistic!!!!

[bvestationfan]

wow ur tracks r dirty

[uniqdymand]

me to

[alexgets98]

1:08 to 1:54 my favourite part!!

[TheMaster592]

How did you make the 3rd rail

[RailRide]

"I" didn't. (I'm not even a member of the club). But the folks who did make it, appear to have used HO scale flextrack rail.

[baseball8610]

by 3rd rail you mean the track in the middle

[MCD4x4]

The third rail was made using one ince sloted screws and HO rail upside down and soldered

[cat4forlife]

Just a reminder the 3rd rail changes sides of the rails as dictated by civil configuration.

[TEMPLE7D]

0:38 WAT HAPPENED

[RailRide]

Nothing out of the ordinary that I can tell at that point.

[Delta757flyer]

they are referring to the train to the right not moving

[RailRide]

I don't see anything on the right at that point. There is a train on the left though. That is just a dead-end track leading to the passenger terminal that sits atop and just beyond the "34 Street" station you see as the camera enters the tunnel.

[Delta757flyer]

yes i meant left but for some reason i said right

[sonicboy678]

It would be really cool if you could also get some footage of the trains stopping at the stations.

[Videomaker326]

this isnt cool.

 THIS IS AWESOME!

[litonliton62]

Wait.Was those tracks and trains were at your house or at some other building ,like a museum.If its a another building can u please tell me the address.But if its in your friends house don't tell me there address.

[RailRide]

See the club's URL in the description

[mregansass]

how did you make the subway stations

[RailRide]

I had nothing to do with their construction. But there is an article on them in the current issue of O Gauge Railroading Magazine. (june/july issue) that sort-of describes how the subway section was built.

You could also look for hints on the Subway/Traction/Transit section of the magazine's web forum (Google the magazine name, of PM me if you can't find their forum address)

[HyndmanHelper]

I always thought it would be neat to make a subway layout. This has got to be the best way to view one!

[Lobta]

That is just unreal. Absolutely amazing!

[quickkiller55]

kool

[trainfans2]

why didnt the subway go fast??????????

[RailRide]

(1) so it seemed to run at a more realistic speed. Real NYC subways rarely run much faster than 45MPH (which in O Gauge is about 18" per second)

(2) It was that camera car's first runs on their layout, inside a tunnel where you couldn't easily get to the train if the camera car derailed (like it did on the first such video I posted), so we took it easy in case something happened.

[sonicboy678]

Scratch that. I looked too quickly. But WMATA, for some reason, is allowed to travel at 59 mph.

[RailRide]

It's a much newer system designed to run at those speeds, what with ATO and all that (except for the matter of that pesky fatal collision)

New york supposedly toyed with 60MPH operation of its R46 trains, then somebody got rear-ended, and that's when they figured out the signals weren't far enough apart to stop a train running that fast from plowing into the back of a stopped one once it ran a red light.

[sonicboy678]

At least the MTA was smart enough to not travel over 55.

[RailRide]

Heh, that little experiment *was* under the MTA :)

[MCD4x4]

thats no true

[MysticVideo]

That was way cool!! I should try making one of those!

[RailRide]

From my experience:

-Make sure your camcorder will fit anyplace your trains will fit.

-Build the camcorder cradle first, so it is custom fitted.

-Use a cardstock (stiff thick paper) template to lay out the arms that connect the cradle to the trucks. This will let you make mirror images of each side by tracing them onto sheet styrene.

--Make the "floor" of the arms, drill for truck mounts while still open on top, attatch to cradle and finish enclosing the arms.

[MartyLJ57]

Thans for the ride!

[rctrains]

love it

[VipericVampire]

THEY FINALLY MADE THE STATIONS!

[Metrarailboy1]

SWEEET!!!