@2mek8 There is one very simple way to defeat a city. and that is siege. They could take surround the city and let the citizens do the rest. It could take few months but then there would be no one alive. But you are right. If country is willing to defend till last man. it will turn to insurgent war like in afghanistan and vietnam, that will never won.
Why can't the Americans understand they lose Vietnam.
why they lose they lose because Vietnam is now communist.
The U.S.A mission was to prevent the communist north take the south and they fell so in conclusion they lose. so please take defeat like men and stop acting like children.
@soviet507 I believe your logic is flawed. The result of the loss is that Vietnam is now communist, but that is not *why* they lost. That is a much bigger, more complex question. Now (IMAO) Vietnam is pretty pointless from the Global perspective anyway. Hindsight being 20/20, we should have fought much less for this scrap of SouthEast Asia and let the commies have it, because now what does it matter? If the population wants to live in the Bronze Age and be ignorant of the world, let them.
@madhammudeux no im a current US MARINE but im commenting on the fact that u comparing us military of the 60s to modern britains military not a fair comparison if u ask me 60s 2011 almost 40 yrs apart man dont say shit like this about the soldiers marines airmen and sailors who fought in this war man they have gotten enough shit i know the feeling they went through cuz ive had ppl call me a murder killer and this coming from americans we defend im not trying to be mean its not right to say shit
Like what? Anyway, modern British soldiers are world leaders in urban combat and anti insurgency operations, mainly due to their years of experience in Northern Ireland. US marines in 1968 were, as you know, given six months basic in conventional warfare. This was during the cold war remember.
My point is showing a British house clearing operation doesn't give the viewer any appreciation for the events taking place in Hue 1968.
@madhammudeux see thats where a civilian wouldnt know our training man we get taught conventional warfare yes but we dont spend 6 months learning it its more like 3-4 weeks in basic and US MARINES specialize in raiding anti insurgancy warfare guarilla warfare conventional warfare and amphibous assaults were the most flexible fighting force in the world u. what makes a MARINE is not just training its our mentaility mindset and backround enlisted MARINES most of us have had shitty lives prior
@madhammudeux to joining the corp we do things that make the us army and air force think were legit nut cases US MARINES are feared through out the world somalis fear MARINES more then they do delta rangers green berets why cuz we fight with a passion and love doing it every minute of it we dont like retreating we have never lost to no 2 enemies have stood toe to toe with us and given us a good fight the japanese and vietnamese. when civilians try to understand US MARINES they cant
they dont understand what we go through to become what we are to kids were heroes to the govt were just a number to the enemy the exeutioner to other MARINES a brother. US MARINES are the worst possible enemy u can have u kill one MARINE u just pissed off his entire company. MARINES have a mindset and beliefs that no other army has we laugh at shit that would make others throw up. we fight armies who are numericly supiorer to a US MARINE we have no equal cuz we havent found one yet
And besides, Israeli and British troops are widely acknowledged as the worlds top fighters. American troops are poorly trained by comparison. In fact a US marine is only on par with a regular French or German infantryman. To make up for your poor training you are brainwashed as a short cut to making you more capable soldiers. These are all facts by the way. Sorry.
@madhammudeux you sound like a biased poge boot ass fucking retard you know nothing of us military dont know shit on our training if were so poorly trained why is it britain, france, and germany were all begging for the UNITED STATES to ramp up its military support for the war hence more our strikes taking charge if briain was so powerfull they would still be a superppower last time i checked they werent UNITED STATES is
@madhammudeux check history bro us military faught china in korea and faught them to a stand still 1 regiment of MARINES wiped out an entire division of chinese soldiers. 388 MARINES held out for 16 days against an entire japanese battle fleet killing 820 japanese soldiers, sinking 2 destroyers, damaging 3 cruisers, a submarine, 5 destroyers, downed 11 fighters 2 bombers. poorly trained huh i got more for u to in world war 1 while british and french troops retreated running for their lives
2 regiments of MARINES went forward defeated the germans offensive and broke through their lines. if it werent for an american presence in EUROPE after world war 2 there wouldnt be a EUROPE it would be soviet russia right now. britain doesnt have the numbers, doesnt have as many combat veterans as the us military, if you think were so poorly trained join the MARINES ill let the drill instructors know what u said see if were poorly trained then theyll make a man out of u then
During WWI Lt. Cates said, "I have only two men out of my company and 20 from another company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." That's the typical situation if the Marines lose a fight. In this case, they won ... the battle of Belleau Wood.
@madhammudeux britain may spend more time in BASIC TRAINING is for infantry is 26 weeks long 32 weeks for ROYAL MARINES 13 weeks for US MARINES and 10 weeks for US ARMY. what u may not know is that US MARINES recieve additional training 13 weeks in basice 4 weeks for not infantry MOS and additional 13 weeks for infantry. US MARINE GRUNTS total training time: 26 weeks none infantry 17, MARINES that arent infantry go to a specialist school to learn a job
@madhammudeux then all MARINES who get into the fleet train for a entire year 26+56=82 weeks training basic is to make u a MARINE not train u for combat dipshit we learn that shit in the fleet. other combat MOSes 69 weeks training in the first 2 years. so when i say you dont know shit about the us military u fucking dont if u think were poorly trained keep thinking that cuz everyone that we have fought thought the same shit and LOST the us military doesnt need to prove shit we are the best
why cuz weve beat the best britain france germany twice mexico spain smaller countries in the carribean and in south america iraq twice afghans italians somalis japan fought china to a stand still, fought vietnam to a standstill with all the ambushes guarilla fighters and the NVA korea libya twice philipines we have fought the best and beat the best your opinion is your own but until i see britain as a superpower your not the best TOP DOG ON THE BLOCK US MILITARY dont like it to bad
I'm sorry, but are you mentally ill or something? I mean just look at what you just wrote. 'why cuz weve beat the best britain france germany twice mexico spain..' That's not even a fucking sentence you illiterate moron.
Britain was the worlds first super power numnuts, and continues to be a world military leader. And I wouldn't brag too much about your countries current 'super power' status, as your country is currently in decline. Don't like it? Too bad. Teehee :)
By the way, Britain won against the Malay communist guerrillas. How comes poor old USA lost to the Vietnamese?? LOLOL. Your country got it's ass kicked by men in Pajamas, lololololol :) Some super power, teehee :)
@madhammudeux yea and the malay communist gurerrillas were just that a bunch of poorly army civilians no training nothing but they still faught u for 12 years now in vietnam we never declared war so we never lost never lost a battle to the vietnamese go ask one yourself they will proudly tell u they lost every battle they every faught against us, oh and in vietnam we were fighting north vietnam and the civilians of both countries
@madhammudeux NVA: North Vietnamese Army we fought them from 1960-1975, VC: Viet Cong were civilians who were fighting the US and South Vietnamese Army from 1960-1968. The VIET CONG was completely wiped out in 1968 during the tet offensive the VC were never able to recover from that defeat, the NVA was able to VC were highly trained guarrillas who had been fighting the japs in world war 2 the french right after then the UNITED STATES and South Vietnam. unlike your war you brits were able to
@jojo51886 much of the VC was wiped out but they keep on fighting guerrilla style after Tet the NVA replace part of their force so they keep on going until the war ended.
@soviet507 VC there some of the best fighters in the world the fact that they stood toe to toe with the us military and didnt flinch theyve earned their respect
@soviet507 MARINES will respect our enemy if they fight fair stand toe to toe with us and dook it out no air power no tanks no bullshit like that just MARINES and VC we did that i respect them i didnt fight them was born then but i know marines who have fought them i respect the VC they faught for their freedom their country all they wanted was there homeland united VIETNAM has my respect they arent afraid of bigger nations vietnam war proved that determination and stratagy win
@soviet507 shit if the VC didnt want to fight they wouldnt fight and american patrols wouldnt know they were there VC understood sun tzu fight on your terms not the enemies they faught the us military on their terms not ours they didnt fight long drug out battles VC best fighters in the world if u ask me they were determined aggressive and taught americans that we werent the best that we are just like everyone else i respect my enemy im a current marine so its taught to us lol
@jojo51886 yes you should not underestimate your enemy and it doesn't matter how small you think they are and i hope you are successful in your marine live it must be pretty hard train like them
@soviet507 it is at time we get underestimated all the time ppl think that cuz our bootcamp is short compaired to other countries that we suck a 1st year MARINE will spend half to a full year learning and training then after that he gets to the fleet and is training 12 hours a day if not in the field if in the field hes trainging all the time we train alot have to stay ready for combat its why were so effective at what we do
@madhammudeux control your new paper in my country freedom of press war was unpopular in 1968 after the defeat of the NVA and VIET CONG forces during the TET OFFENSIVE ho chi minh and his general Giap sent word to the South Vietnamese and United States for an unconditional surrender talks lasted till 1970 when we agreed to pull all US MILITARY FORCES out of vietnam 1975 last of us troops left we defeated them and they will tell u that we beat them in 8 yrs in there own country
@madhammudeux its not what u hear about thats the truth its what u dont hear about that is when it comes to the vietnam war so u think we got our asses handed to us 1 MILLION vietnamese casualties compaired to the 50,000 US casualties the VC and NVA were supplied by china and russia with training your malayan guerrillas didnt have the training nore the weapons to fight ours did so come up with a better arguement and know your shit u retard before you argue with me
@madhammudeux and the only thing your doing is spitting in the faces of the ppl who fought for BRITAIN and the US i brag cuz im serving ive served i have alot of respect for the BRITISH Military why cuz they fought with us since 2001 shedding blood and dieing to bring to justice those assholes who killed 2000 innicent ppl keep argueing keep bragging how powerfull they are your just spitting in there face by showing off you didnt fight in any war serve in any military so until u have the balls to
@madhammudeux join the British Military and serve with US forces and see what we really are like then shut the fuck up you have no right bragging showing off or talking about any war u didnt fight in you dont know anything about what WE IN THE US AND BRITISH MILITARY have to go through to become what we are and we arent proud of it cuz its nothing to brag about if u think killing ppl is something to brag about you have problems
@madhammudeux you forgot BEER in that and im not white LOVE FRIED CHICKEN but not african american dont live in a trailor im actually multi racial mexican BRITISH french german irish cherokee indian and some native american from mexico but back to our convo to you sound like a child who in the fuck says silly and if your real BRIT which i doubt you are cuz BRITS dont call us AMERICANS they call us YANKS always have every british soldier ive seen called me a yank never american fake ass brit
@madhammudeux to im not bragging im telling u i know what the US MILITARY is capable of the fact that we beat every nation we have ever been at war with is cuz of one simple thing the fact that they think that there better then us that we are inferior to them every we always get underestimated why i dont know why but u know what the record speaks for itself we havent lost a war weve helped britain on numerous occassions i used to think very highly of brits but after talking to u not anymore
@madhammudeux and your comment here isnt an insult keep working on them POMS go sip some tea or u can make yourself usfull and join your military see how tough you really are. im done with talking with u you discrass your country and military
Israelis are widely achnowledged among western militaries for being overly arrogant amateurs that achieved their fame by beating on the red-headed stepchildren of modern warfare, arabs. What happens when they meet an actually competent foe we were able to see in 2001, when their attack into Lebanon was stopped cold by Hezbollah.
First of all, learn to Spell. Second of all, Israeli troops have had more success at anti insurgency operations than most other modern militaries. Hezbollah in 2001? You mean 2006? So you've just contradicted yourself there. In one paragraph you've slated Arabs as stepchildren of modern warfare, and then called them 'competent foe'. Please make up your mind which they are. And on the subject of Arabs, doesn't America ONLY fight arabs these days as well. You Fail at Debate LAWL :)
Cool story. As for Hezbollah, they happen to be more competent than the norm amongst arabs because they're functionally an iranian proxy, profiting from getting advice and equipment from those nice Persians. As for the US: Afghanis aren't arabs, either. And the point still stands: The IDF has shown itself consistently to be far less professional and competent than their own hype suggests them to be.
Well thanks for bringing Godwin's Law into this. Your full concession is accepted. That you have to start calling people nazis only proves that you have no actual argument to make. That and your utter stupididty shown by you actually believing that swinging the nazi bat would do you any good. PS: Try proving that I'm a nazi, I dare you.
Nope, I utterly contradicted your silly little comment about Israelis by presenting you with some facts that even you must be aware of, hence my suspicions that you have a political motive to slate their prowess.
The fact that you have no counter argument and leapt on my trolling to justify your claims just proves how baseless they were in the first place. Your full concession is accepted. Thank you, have a nice day. Teehee :)
Facts? Nope, all I see is delusional drivel and fucktarded insults. As for your "suspicions", they're about as substantial (and relevant) as mine that you are in fact a serial child rapist. As for a counter argument, for what? You have been utterly unable to present anything even resembling an actual argument and your attempts to adress the facts stated by me have been shot down in flames. Ther eis nothing to your posts that merits a counter argument in the first place.
Hence, your completely retarded attempt at claiming the nwin in the argument is acutally nothing but a full concession on your part that I was right in all points and that you are an ignorant aned dishonest fucktard unable to take part in any remotely serious discussion. Your concession is duly accepted. Now piss off, kiddo. Adults are talking.
throwing grenades into every room before clearing it is dangerous stuff...most people don't build houses out of cinder blocks and gas lines run through kitchens, apartments, etc. it is easy to hurt yourself, buddies, or civilians.
We(USA) already had our vietnam, I had hoped that we had learn from our lessons but still in 2011 we continue making the same damn mistakes on other foreign soils. What the hell are we supposed to do????? WAR sucks.
My dad was a USMC lieutenant at Hue. He remembers rushing a member of his platoon to medics. Because helicopters were banned from Hue the marine died. He was 17 years old.
americans are as lazy as the next developed country. on average we work more than europeans. but no one can really back up with real facts that americans are lazy. that mexican get jobs that americans wont do is bull. its more like mexicans get jobs for less than americans will do. sometimes going under minimum wage.
Shut up! Why don't you come to Vietnam to see how many cars we have now, huh White boy? Besides, price of car in Vietnam is like 3X more expensive than cars in U.S.A due to high tax. What a fool!
@paxtofettel Besides being expensive, there is no real advantage to a big car for most people. Same as in Europe. You don't have to move more than about 5 miles in any direction. This is not like the US where the grocery store can be 5 miles away. Scooters save you a walk, but you could get anywhere you want to go in less than an hour's walk to start with.
@Stritchers wow, an hours walk, most Americans would gringe at the thought of having to walk for an hour, im not that type of American and enjoy walking myself. However I guess its a different mentality.
@Limskjordan I'd say its plain bullshit, no offense but people that make the retarded argument that Americans are lazy/stupid/don't wanna work, can't back up their claims probably because were one of the last countries in the world that allow a person to do what they want =) if it neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg
@de4th1snt3nough No, that is not what I mean. Everyone is lazy in someway, including me. Even I wouldn't walk for an hour. So that includes me!! =) The laziest people in the world (to me) are the malays in Malaysia. Why? Heck, their government gives them money all the time!! (They only give to the malays).
@de4th1snt3nough America's lost a lot of its freedoms in recent decades, much of it to the cheering of crowds. Can't sell a bong over state lines, 'cause it might be used for marijuana. Can't have a glowstick in some places - they use those at raves, so they're "drug paraphenalia". Can't videotape a cop in public, for some unspecified reason. Can't get on a plane without extensive and useless "security" red tape. There are a lot of countries nowadays that are more free than America.
@guysmiley00 u should have a look at the UK. Kids can't go to school with a cross on a chain around their necks, offends muslims. Can't have pictures of pigs on walls, offends muslims. They go around with their heads covered, nobody cares who that offends. Indians living all their lives in UK can't speak English cos they have Hindi as their first language in their schools in London. The nursery rhyme 'Ba Ba black sheep' was changed to 'Ba Ba rainbow sheep' 'cos it offends blacks. I don't know...
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gonavygonavy 2 months ago
VC women were so damn hot ;) I want to be back there!
NgJackal1990 3 months ago
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2mek8 5 months ago
@2mek8 There is one very simple way to defeat a city. and that is siege. They could take surround the city and let the citizens do the rest. It could take few months but then there would be no one alive. But you are right. If country is willing to defend till last man. it will turn to insurgent war like in afghanistan and vietnam, that will never won.
Artist334 1 month ago
Why can't the Americans understand they lose Vietnam.
why they lose they lose because Vietnam is now communist.
The U.S.A mission was to prevent the communist north take the south and they fell so in conclusion they lose. so please take defeat like men and stop acting like children.
soviet507 5 months ago
@soviet507 I believe your logic is flawed. The result of the loss is that Vietnam is now communist, but that is not *why* they lost. That is a much bigger, more complex question. Now (IMAO) Vietnam is pretty pointless from the Global perspective anyway. Hindsight being 20/20, we should have fought much less for this scrap of SouthEast Asia and let the commies have it, because now what does it matter? If the population wants to live in the Bronze Age and be ignorant of the world, let them.
FirearmsFreak 5 months ago
US MARINES dont retreat we simply attack in another direction damn documentary get it right
jojo51886 6 months ago
US MARINES dont retreat we simply attack in another direction damn documentary get it right
jojo51886 6 months ago
Yeh somehow I don't think American soldiers in Vietnam quite compare to modern British soldiers. 'Hey Jared, u dun see a gook in that thurr window?'
madhammudeux 6 months ago
@madhammudeux r u in the military
jojo51886 6 months ago
@jojo51886
Nope. Were you in the military back in 1968?
madhammudeux 6 months ago
@madhammudeux no im a current US MARINE but im commenting on the fact that u comparing us military of the 60s to modern britains military not a fair comparison if u ask me 60s 2011 almost 40 yrs apart man dont say shit like this about the soldiers marines airmen and sailors who fought in this war man they have gotten enough shit i know the feeling they went through cuz ive had ppl call me a murder killer and this coming from americans we defend im not trying to be mean its not right to say shit
jojo51886 5 months ago
@madhammudeux like that
jojo51886 5 months ago
@jojo51886
Like what? Anyway, modern British soldiers are world leaders in urban combat and anti insurgency operations, mainly due to their years of experience in Northern Ireland. US marines in 1968 were, as you know, given six months basic in conventional warfare. This was during the cold war remember.
My point is showing a British house clearing operation doesn't give the viewer any appreciation for the events taking place in Hue 1968.
madhammudeux 5 months ago
@madhammudeux see thats where a civilian wouldnt know our training man we get taught conventional warfare yes but we dont spend 6 months learning it its more like 3-4 weeks in basic and US MARINES specialize in raiding anti insurgancy warfare guarilla warfare conventional warfare and amphibous assaults were the most flexible fighting force in the world u. what makes a MARINE is not just training its our mentaility mindset and backround enlisted MARINES most of us have had shitty lives prior
jojo51886 5 months ago
@madhammudeux to joining the corp we do things that make the us army and air force think were legit nut cases US MARINES are feared through out the world somalis fear MARINES more then they do delta rangers green berets why cuz we fight with a passion and love doing it every minute of it we dont like retreating we have never lost to no 2 enemies have stood toe to toe with us and given us a good fight the japanese and vietnamese. when civilians try to understand US MARINES they cant
jojo51886 5 months ago
they dont understand what we go through to become what we are to kids were heroes to the govt were just a number to the enemy the exeutioner to other MARINES a brother. US MARINES are the worst possible enemy u can have u kill one MARINE u just pissed off his entire company. MARINES have a mindset and beliefs that no other army has we laugh at shit that would make others throw up. we fight armies who are numericly supiorer to a US MARINE we have no equal cuz we havent found one yet
jojo51886 5 months ago
@jojo51886
You sound like a robot.
And besides, Israeli and British troops are widely acknowledged as the worlds top fighters. American troops are poorly trained by comparison. In fact a US marine is only on par with a regular French or German infantryman. To make up for your poor training you are brainwashed as a short cut to making you more capable soldiers. These are all facts by the way. Sorry.
madhammudeux 5 months ago
@madhammudeux you sound like a biased poge boot ass fucking retard you know nothing of us military dont know shit on our training if were so poorly trained why is it britain, france, and germany were all begging for the UNITED STATES to ramp up its military support for the war hence more our strikes taking charge if briain was so powerfull they would still be a superppower last time i checked they werent UNITED STATES is
jojo51886 5 months ago
@madhammudeux check history bro us military faught china in korea and faught them to a stand still 1 regiment of MARINES wiped out an entire division of chinese soldiers. 388 MARINES held out for 16 days against an entire japanese battle fleet killing 820 japanese soldiers, sinking 2 destroyers, damaging 3 cruisers, a submarine, 5 destroyers, downed 11 fighters 2 bombers. poorly trained huh i got more for u to in world war 1 while british and french troops retreated running for their lives
jojo51886 5 months ago
2 regiments of MARINES went forward defeated the germans offensive and broke through their lines. if it werent for an american presence in EUROPE after world war 2 there wouldnt be a EUROPE it would be soviet russia right now. britain doesnt have the numbers, doesnt have as many combat veterans as the us military, if you think were so poorly trained join the MARINES ill let the drill instructors know what u said see if were poorly trained then theyll make a man out of u then
jojo51886 5 months ago
During WWI Lt. Cates said, "I have only two men out of my company and 20 from another company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." That's the typical situation if the Marines lose a fight. In this case, they won ... the battle of Belleau Wood.
jojo51886 5 months ago
@madhammudeux britain may spend more time in BASIC TRAINING is for infantry is 26 weeks long 32 weeks for ROYAL MARINES 13 weeks for US MARINES and 10 weeks for US ARMY. what u may not know is that US MARINES recieve additional training 13 weeks in basice 4 weeks for not infantry MOS and additional 13 weeks for infantry. US MARINE GRUNTS total training time: 26 weeks none infantry 17, MARINES that arent infantry go to a specialist school to learn a job
jojo51886 5 months ago
@madhammudeux then all MARINES who get into the fleet train for a entire year 26+56=82 weeks training basic is to make u a MARINE not train u for combat dipshit we learn that shit in the fleet. other combat MOSes 69 weeks training in the first 2 years. so when i say you dont know shit about the us military u fucking dont if u think were poorly trained keep thinking that cuz everyone that we have fought thought the same shit and LOST the us military doesnt need to prove shit we are the best
jojo51886 5 months ago
why cuz weve beat the best britain france germany twice mexico spain smaller countries in the carribean and in south america iraq twice afghans italians somalis japan fought china to a stand still, fought vietnam to a standstill with all the ambushes guarilla fighters and the NVA korea libya twice philipines we have fought the best and beat the best your opinion is your own but until i see britain as a superpower your not the best TOP DOG ON THE BLOCK US MILITARY dont like it to bad
jojo51886 5 months ago
@jojo51886
I'm sorry, but are you mentally ill or something? I mean just look at what you just wrote. 'why cuz weve beat the best britain france germany twice mexico spain..' That's not even a fucking sentence you illiterate moron.
Britain was the worlds first super power numnuts, and continues to be a world military leader. And I wouldn't brag too much about your countries current 'super power' status, as your country is currently in decline. Don't like it? Too bad. Teehee :)
madhammudeux 5 months ago
By the way, Britain won against the Malay communist guerrillas. How comes poor old USA lost to the Vietnamese?? LOLOL. Your country got it's ass kicked by men in Pajamas, lololololol :) Some super power, teehee :)
madhammudeux 5 months ago
@madhammudeux yea and the malay communist gurerrillas were just that a bunch of poorly army civilians no training nothing but they still faught u for 12 years now in vietnam we never declared war so we never lost never lost a battle to the vietnamese go ask one yourself they will proudly tell u they lost every battle they every faught against us, oh and in vietnam we were fighting north vietnam and the civilians of both countries
jojo51886 5 months ago
@jojo51886
Bull. The US lost battles in Vietnam. Stop perpetuating that stupid myth.
Magni56 5 months ago
@madhammudeux NVA: North Vietnamese Army we fought them from 1960-1975, VC: Viet Cong were civilians who were fighting the US and South Vietnamese Army from 1960-1968. The VIET CONG was completely wiped out in 1968 during the tet offensive the VC were never able to recover from that defeat, the NVA was able to VC were highly trained guarrillas who had been fighting the japs in world war 2 the french right after then the UNITED STATES and South Vietnam. unlike your war you brits were able to
jojo51886 5 months ago
@jojo51886 much of the VC was wiped out but they keep on fighting guerrilla style after Tet the NVA replace part of their force so they keep on going until the war ended.
soviet507 5 months ago
@soviet507 VC there some of the best fighters in the world the fact that they stood toe to toe with the us military and didnt flinch theyve earned their respect
jojo51886 5 months ago
@jojo51886 you are damn Right man if it wasn't fore them the U.S would had of won
soviet507 5 months ago
@soviet507 MARINES will respect our enemy if they fight fair stand toe to toe with us and dook it out no air power no tanks no bullshit like that just MARINES and VC we did that i respect them i didnt fight them was born then but i know marines who have fought them i respect the VC they faught for their freedom their country all they wanted was there homeland united VIETNAM has my respect they arent afraid of bigger nations vietnam war proved that determination and stratagy win
jojo51886 5 months ago
@soviet507 shit if the VC didnt want to fight they wouldnt fight and american patrols wouldnt know they were there VC understood sun tzu fight on your terms not the enemies they faught the us military on their terms not ours they didnt fight long drug out battles VC best fighters in the world if u ask me they were determined aggressive and taught americans that we werent the best that we are just like everyone else i respect my enemy im a current marine so its taught to us lol
jojo51886 5 months ago
@jojo51886 yes you should not underestimate your enemy and it doesn't matter how small you think they are and i hope you are successful in your marine live it must be pretty hard train like them
soviet507 5 months ago
@soviet507 it is at time we get underestimated all the time ppl think that cuz our bootcamp is short compaired to other countries that we suck a 1st year MARINE will spend half to a full year learning and training then after that he gets to the fleet and is training 12 hours a day if not in the field if in the field hes trainging all the time we train alot have to stay ready for combat its why were so effective at what we do
jojo51886 5 months ago
@madhammudeux control your new paper in my country freedom of press war was unpopular in 1968 after the defeat of the NVA and VIET CONG forces during the TET OFFENSIVE ho chi minh and his general Giap sent word to the South Vietnamese and United States for an unconditional surrender talks lasted till 1970 when we agreed to pull all US MILITARY FORCES out of vietnam 1975 last of us troops left we defeated them and they will tell u that we beat them in 8 yrs in there own country
jojo51886 5 months ago
@madhammudeux its not what u hear about thats the truth its what u dont hear about that is when it comes to the vietnam war so u think we got our asses handed to us 1 MILLION vietnamese casualties compaired to the 50,000 US casualties the VC and NVA were supplied by china and russia with training your malayan guerrillas didnt have the training nore the weapons to fight ours did so come up with a better arguement and know your shit u retard before you argue with me
jojo51886 5 months ago
@madhammudeux and the only thing your doing is spitting in the faces of the ppl who fought for BRITAIN and the US i brag cuz im serving ive served i have alot of respect for the BRITISH Military why cuz they fought with us since 2001 shedding blood and dieing to bring to justice those assholes who killed 2000 innicent ppl keep argueing keep bragging how powerfull they are your just spitting in there face by showing off you didnt fight in any war serve in any military so until u have the balls to
jojo51886 5 months ago
@madhammudeux join the British Military and serve with US forces and see what we really are like then shut the fuck up you have no right bragging showing off or talking about any war u didnt fight in you dont know anything about what WE IN THE US AND BRITISH MILITARY have to go through to become what we are and we arent proud of it cuz its nothing to brag about if u think killing ppl is something to brag about you have problems
jojo51886 5 months ago
@jojo51886
LoL, you were the one bragging about how great you are. Silly American. Go eat some fried chicken in your Trailer, lol
madhammudeux 5 months ago
@madhammudeux you forgot BEER in that and im not white LOVE FRIED CHICKEN but not african american dont live in a trailor im actually multi racial mexican BRITISH french german irish cherokee indian and some native american from mexico but back to our convo to you sound like a child who in the fuck says silly and if your real BRIT which i doubt you are cuz BRITS dont call us AMERICANS they call us YANKS always have every british soldier ive seen called me a yank never american fake ass brit
jojo51886 5 months ago
@madhammudeux to im not bragging im telling u i know what the US MILITARY is capable of the fact that we beat every nation we have ever been at war with is cuz of one simple thing the fact that they think that there better then us that we are inferior to them every we always get underestimated why i dont know why but u know what the record speaks for itself we havent lost a war weve helped britain on numerous occassions i used to think very highly of brits but after talking to u not anymore
jojo51886 5 months ago
@jojo51886
Beat every nation you've ever been at war with... Please learn some history. You can start with the War of 1812.
Magni56 5 months ago
@madhammudeux and your comment here isnt an insult keep working on them POMS go sip some tea or u can make yourself usfull and join your military see how tough you really are. im done with talking with u you discrass your country and military
jojo51886 5 months ago
@madhammudeux
Israelis are widely achnowledged among western militaries for being overly arrogant amateurs that achieved their fame by beating on the red-headed stepchildren of modern warfare, arabs. What happens when they meet an actually competent foe we were able to see in 2001, when their attack into Lebanon was stopped cold by Hezbollah.
Magni56 5 months ago
@Magni56
First of all, learn to Spell. Second of all, Israeli troops have had more success at anti insurgency operations than most other modern militaries. Hezbollah in 2001? You mean 2006? So you've just contradicted yourself there. In one paragraph you've slated Arabs as stepchildren of modern warfare, and then called them 'competent foe'. Please make up your mind which they are. And on the subject of Arabs, doesn't America ONLY fight arabs these days as well. You Fail at Debate LAWL :)
madhammudeux 5 months ago
@madhammudeux
Cool story. As for Hezbollah, they happen to be more competent than the norm amongst arabs because they're functionally an iranian proxy, profiting from getting advice and equipment from those nice Persians. As for the US: Afghanis aren't arabs, either. And the point still stands: The IDF has shown itself consistently to be far less professional and competent than their own hype suggests them to be.
Magni56 5 months ago
@Magni56 Oh, you're a Nazi, lol, no wonder you're so anti Israli, hahah :)
madhammudeux 5 months ago
@madhammudeux
Well thanks for bringing Godwin's Law into this. Your full concession is accepted. That you have to start calling people nazis only proves that you have no actual argument to make. That and your utter stupididty shown by you actually believing that swinging the nazi bat would do you any good. PS: Try proving that I'm a nazi, I dare you.
Magni56 5 months ago
@Magni56
Nope, I utterly contradicted your silly little comment about Israelis by presenting you with some facts that even you must be aware of, hence my suspicions that you have a political motive to slate their prowess.
The fact that you have no counter argument and leapt on my trolling to justify your claims just proves how baseless they were in the first place. Your full concession is accepted. Thank you, have a nice day. Teehee :)
madhammudeux 5 months ago
@madhammudeux
Facts? Nope, all I see is delusional drivel and fucktarded insults. As for your "suspicions", they're about as substantial (and relevant) as mine that you are in fact a serial child rapist. As for a counter argument, for what? You have been utterly unable to present anything even resembling an actual argument and your attempts to adress the facts stated by me have been shot down in flames. Ther eis nothing to your posts that merits a counter argument in the first place.
Magni56 5 months ago
@madhammudeux
Hence, your completely retarded attempt at claiming the nwin in the argument is acutally nothing but a full concession on your part that I was right in all points and that you are an ignorant aned dishonest fucktard unable to take part in any remotely serious discussion. Your concession is duly accepted. Now piss off, kiddo. Adults are talking.
Magni56 5 months ago
@Magni56
That's your argument is it? That, to you, is what proves the Israeli military are amateurs? Sad...
madhammudeux 5 months ago
@Kamensky93 yep
SuperTonyOrtiz 6 months ago
throwing grenades into every room before clearing it is dangerous stuff...most people don't build houses out of cinder blocks and gas lines run through kitchens, apartments, etc. it is easy to hurt yourself, buddies, or civilians.
PhilWigg 6 months ago
We(USA) already had our vietnam, I had hoped that we had learn from our lessons but still in 2011 we continue making the same damn mistakes on other foreign soils. What the hell are we supposed to do????? WAR sucks.
MASTERNCS 7 months ago
Nice to think that they built on this experience in Mogadishu in 1993...-Not !
VegardMinde 7 months ago
@SovetskyySoyuzah Viet Cong are assholes.
baberaider18 8 months ago
That must be soo fun to do? Do the Brit army offer tours and urban fighting courses? This show is awesome. I hope they continue to make more.
mossmusic 9 months ago
comments are full of arrogant snobs arguing
m78991234 10 months ago 26
@m78991234
why!?
AmphibiousReconMSOB 8 months ago
My dad was a USMC lieutenant at Hue. He remembers rushing a member of his platoon to medics. Because helicopters were banned from Hue the marine died. He was 17 years old.
thekingofthehill42 1 year ago
americans are as lazy as the next developed country. on average we work more than europeans. but no one can really back up with real facts that americans are lazy. that mexican get jobs that americans wont do is bull. its more like mexicans get jobs for less than americans will do. sometimes going under minimum wage.
paulinotou 1 year ago
notice that everytime the dude walks in a city theres a commies flag always flying o.o
Aznkingdomination 1 year ago
Has anyone noticed that almost everyone in modern day Vietnam are riding a motorized scooter
paxtofettel 1 year ago
@paxtofettel cars are simply too expensive to buy (watch 'Top Gear' vietnamese episode)
tsuyoshi15 1 year ago 10
@tsuyoshi15
Shut up! Why don't you come to Vietnam to see how many cars we have now, huh White boy? Besides, price of car in Vietnam is like 3X more expensive than cars in U.S.A due to high tax. What a fool!
KatiushaVN4 1 year ago
@paxtofettel Besides being expensive, there is no real advantage to a big car for most people. Same as in Europe. You don't have to move more than about 5 miles in any direction. This is not like the US where the grocery store can be 5 miles away. Scooters save you a walk, but you could get anywhere you want to go in less than an hour's walk to start with.
Stritchers 1 year ago
@Stritchers wow, an hours walk, most Americans would gringe at the thought of having to walk for an hour, im not that type of American and enjoy walking myself. However I guess its a different mentality.
SSSDiaz7 1 year ago
@SSSDiaz7 I'd say its plain laziness. No offense.
Limskjordan 1 year ago
@Limskjordan I'd say its plain bullshit, no offense but people that make the retarded argument that Americans are lazy/stupid/don't wanna work, can't back up their claims probably because were one of the last countries in the world that allow a person to do what they want =) if it neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg
de4th1snt3nough 1 year ago
@de4th1snt3nough No, that is not what I mean. Everyone is lazy in someway, including me. Even I wouldn't walk for an hour. So that includes me!! =) The laziest people in the world (to me) are the malays in Malaysia. Why? Heck, their government gives them money all the time!! (They only give to the malays).
Limskjordan 1 year ago
@de4th1snt3nough America's lost a lot of its freedoms in recent decades, much of it to the cheering of crowds. Can't sell a bong over state lines, 'cause it might be used for marijuana. Can't have a glowstick in some places - they use those at raves, so they're "drug paraphenalia". Can't videotape a cop in public, for some unspecified reason. Can't get on a plane without extensive and useless "security" red tape. There are a lot of countries nowadays that are more free than America.
guysmiley00 1 year ago 6
@guysmiley00 not really........
cheesepwnage 7 months ago
@guysmiley00 u should have a look at the UK. Kids can't go to school with a cross on a chain around their necks, offends muslims. Can't have pictures of pigs on walls, offends muslims. They go around with their heads covered, nobody cares who that offends. Indians living all their lives in UK can't speak English cos they have Hindi as their first language in their schools in London. The nursery rhyme 'Ba Ba black sheep' was changed to 'Ba Ba rainbow sheep' 'cos it offends blacks. I don't know...
Grimrippa1 7 months ago