A&E "Investigative Reports" Scientology - Part 3

[skinnycopdude24]

lol Alexander Cockburn i lol'ed when i saw that

[MegaIanlee]

@skinnycopdude24 thats funny dude.. i got cockburn last night..i was getting romantic with myself

[Badin10tions]

Lmao @ 6:02.

Alexander Cockburn, musta been rough growing up with a name like that.

[AnonymousPrettySP]

All religions don't make their "volunteers" sign billion year contracts,or force abortions, or stalk their critics.

[PersonalJesus348]

All religions are cults. Get over it. It is absurd.

[missladawnable]

yup...follow a religion that was made on a bar bet and this is exactly what you get. The leader flees...after serving time in prison for being proven to extort serious amounts of money from his so-called 'religion'...and dies without any kind of the 'predictions'...wow...people will believe anything!!

[InfernalDisaster]

Scientology despises psychiatric community because they are the ones who have to deprogram indoctrination. Scientology is based on the indoctrination of their members, not only to get more money but also to never to question.

Like any cult, if any member has family or friends that question Scientology, they are ordered to "disconnect" from them totally. Other cults like Jim Jones, Branch Davidians and Heaven's Gate all practiced this "disconnecting".

[Stonejohn28]

good non biased

[jonathanmelia]

"The Church claim Hubbard knew nothing about Operation Freakout." Mmm, and some insist Hitler never knew about the Holocaust.

[THEMONKEYG0D]

@rainbowspite222 Guess an awful lot of the money goes on legal fees, advertising, buying new buildings, translating LRH books into every language and David Miscaviges rather affluent lifestyle.

As to what they do for the community then probably nothing. They do send 'ministers' to disasters to do conduct touch therapy. But in reality they are just looking for new recruits. Suppose that is why only the US accepts that it is a church.

[thenewlegend011]

A religion no based on God and his word, is nothing but a manmade money machine for ignorants

[natedaug1]

Mike Rinder has actually now quit the church, because he, and this is what he says, the head of Scientology David Mscavige used to physically beat him. Scientology is terrible.

[jonathanmelia]

@natedaug1 Yeah, and have you seen how the CO$ has retaliated in their FREEDOMMAG? They are totally trying to smear him.

[natedaug1]

@jonathanmelia No, but I bet it is bad. They are quite evil.

[DainEllis]

LOVE BILL CURTIS , WISH HE WOULD DO ANOTHER SHOW FOR THE NEWEST GENERATION , TO NOT GET FOOLED BY THIS BOGUS , CRAP

[jbdream3]

Hubbard was a very delusional individual.

[ihatemice1]

@Canucklesandwich to make it easier to get across converts

[HipHopcheerleader]

Malcom X and the Nation of Islam....same story

[fraterlucifer888]

@Canucklesandwich Im not a christian at all and I find it insulting, its like the made the cross into a generic symbol of religion and are riding on the coattails of its symbolism,it has no real meaning to them its just there to give the cult of scientology creedence as a real religion,I dont think theve ever come out to say what symbolism the cross has within the cult of scientology,like you can put a cross on anything and its automatically spiritual,if anybody knows why they use it please tell

[eric777100763]

JONES was NOT a "mainstream" christian church. Jones was a reported atheist and certainly a drug addict and bisexual. He was NOT a christian. The nutcase claimed he was God. Scientology will say or do ANYTHING to further their cause!! In their minds it is "fair game" This scientology lawyer is doing what evey lawyer does...putting his cleint in the best posssible light!!

[crewlla]

Christains do that too. presits assult children every day and it is ingnored by the church even covered up. there is many alcholics in the christian religion. What is the real meaning of god the word in general. christain church and catholics will do anything to further there cause even kill people. (witch trials.) Putting a movie out that shows some one getting betten up for 2 hours striaght. no christains dont to anything to further there cause. just dont double cross one.

[phantom4x4]

muslims kill people also. do you put all religions in the same catagory? or just christians? people kill people im a christian i dont kill people or molest or hurt anyone. muslim people are the same jewish people are the same we are just people living until we die inhopes of a better life after we leave this one. a person doesnt need a church to find the true God.He is in us all if we just look inside ourselves.

[crewlla]

Every religion belives in some sort of God. Not every religion uses a church. All religions have people in it who kill. In my religion we belive that you dont juge some one for what ever religion there in and we dont condem people for what they belive in even if we are selfs are being condemed for what we belive. You yourself may not try to hurt anyone just like I dont try to hurt anyone.

[crewlla]

I personaly have a problem with all christian religions and the cathlic religion. I belive that its a hurtfull religion based on punishments, made up belives and untruths about heaven and hell (which there is none.) It was a way of keeping people quite and in control. When ever you try to question some thing in the bible it was looked down apon and the answer was always "well, you have to have faith." I could go on and on. but we both dont need that. What makes you so sure god is a guy?

[eric777100763]

droopy, ty for this download!!

[crewlla]

with every religion you get your good members and you get your bad members.

[noodles41]

i don't know how much of this I can watch in one sitting. the idea of this "religion" is so unbelievably absurd -it's so hard to pick out ANY pieces of solid evidence to support this group

[crewlla]

I will say what many christian say when they are faced with some one who says there is no solid evidence to support this group You have to have faith. I am not christian or a scientologist. I just read and ask questions alot. All religion is made up.

[eric777100763]

TRUE> Except JESUS isnt made up. Christianity is a matter of FACT!!

[crewlla]

ha ha ha ha ha ha proof it.

[eric777100763]

With persons who's minds are already made up you cant prove anything. Best regards Eric

[robba01]

The way Rinder talks about the Jonestown Massacre, with a smirk and chuckle, saying that they 'were a fairly mainstream group' and that he 'doesn't know' what happened to them; shows how ridiculous he and his organisation is. He is clearly inferring that the death of hundreds of people was a conspiracy to create negative press about scientology. What a tosser

[MrFagenabler]

pay mind to his accenct that is there somtimes and not there other times

[Emyousmusa]

What I don't understand is that our own government does what Scientology does, but worse, and yet people around the world react with shock, a surprize, and yet should be thankful that people and or the groups that give any type of government a run for there money.

[oilynose]

Anyone know why they use a form of the crucifix as their symbol?

[veeganboy]

To strengthen the claim that Scientology is a religion. As a religion, it is exempt of certain forms of taxation.

[ThieleM]

The symbol is very familiar....makes it more inviting than the image of an alien or a DC-9 with rockets under the wings.

[skunknumerouno]

haha that one guy's name is Alex Cockburn

[11Jamie11]

"i see only scientology as a business who dont care about people, but only care about them self :P"

That's true of LRH and the other psychos who run it, but one major reason people get sucked into the thing is their idealism. Ask those who've gotten out why they got in, and you'll see. Most of them are actually really caring people -- when they aren't under Hubbard's spell.

[paulusmagirl]

Scientology has got to be the single most

unbelievable, laughable thing I have ever

heard about in all my life! How can people

believe all this crazy-ass, alien, billion year

contract shit?!? Some people are such

sheeple! lol

[Imariscent]

Oh They erase or marked my comment that I wrote after sodicoerv, it's cool, it must have hit home, for them to mark it as spam.

[LadyNinjaKagero]

Love how Rinder said the word CHRISTIANS with such gusto when he spoke about the JIM JONES CULT, another reason that shows me that Scientology hates Christianity though they say they accept other religions.

[EddieG1888]

LRH told his followers that Jesus interfered with "young boys and girls". Scientology absolutely detests Christianity.

[Imariscent]

They were(look at his face)Christians.

[LFraudHubbard]

Scientology =

Ongoing Criminal Organization =

(RICO)Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act and,

(Anti-SLAPP) Strategic Lawsuit against Public Participation] =

Camp FED.

Expect It

[sodicoerv]

I understand you. If you don't like Scientology it is fine. If you have seen something that is not legal, demand. We do not force people to do a course or something, they want to, and if they dont want to, well, it is fine, they can go. Sometimes they runaway because they hide something, sometimes they dont hide anything, whatever the reason, they can go. And again, I recomend you to grab a book and read. Probably you even have not read any books of Scientology or Dianetics. YOU LOOK!

[subtleexplosion]

Believe and worship what you want. Scientology is NOT a religion. It's a profiteering "self help" organization.

[sodicoerv]

Beleive? No, no. We don't need that. We have a logic on every procedure and data, it is not based on believe. Every data has a logic, you don't even need to believe it. I prefer to hear "Well, I dont think this is true" than "I believe it" You know it, or you dont know it, period. It is a Religion now, and it got to the court and everything. No worship necesary, I personaly do not worship anyone (not even the founder), I tend to look at the logic of the data and if it works, I use it, period.

[LFraudHubbard]

"Somebody some day will say 'this is

illegal.' By then be sure the orgs[Scientology buildings] say

what is legal or not." -L.Ron Hubbard

-HCO P/L, 4 Jan 1966

[sodicoerv]

You are taking just that phrase, not the whole text leading to that idea. And your taking it too literal. Also, of course, if you don't know Scientology then you will find it interesting or threatening.

[LFraudHubbard]

Scientology =

Ongoing Criminal Organization =

(RICO)Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt

Organizations Act and,

(Anti-SLAPP) Strategic Lawsuit against

Public Participation] =

Camp FED.

Expect It

[sodicoerv]

I see. Well, it is the same story. You think that, you believe that, but you can't specify what it is wrong. You see, this is a matter of looking at the books, at the logic, not just saying things without knowing.

[LFraudHubbard]

"Dianetics is a science; as such, it has no opinion about religion, for sciences are based on natural laws, not on opinions."-L. Ron Hubbard, "Dianetic Auditor's Bulletin" Oct 1950

"This volume probably contains more promises and less evidence per page than has any publication since the invention of printing" -Review of "Dianetics", Scientific American 1951

I see your going to go down with the ship. Scientology is CRASHING and we all know it!

FACT

Expect Us

[sodicoerv]

About you first quote, it is true. You are confusing Scientology with Dianetics. Dientics is Science, but Scientology is another thing. About your second quote, ¿Do you really believe what the press says? Think and look for yourself. If you knew the people behind the media, you would not be surprised. I'm not going anywhere, Scientology is growing very fast, and that is a FACT.

[LFraudHubbard]

"Scientology is growing very fast, and that is a FACT."

"THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM". You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them." - L. Ron Hubbard, "Off the Time Track," lecture of June 1952, excerpted in JOURNAL OF SCIENTOLOGY issue 18-G, reprinted in TECHNICAL VOLUMES OF DIANETICS & SCIENTOLOGY, vol. 1, p. 418

Keep living in fantasy land!!

Expect Us

[sodicoerv]

I know that you probably have lots of quotes fo LRH, but again, you take the single phrase not the whole text. Scientology is growing very fast. In Mexico (where I live) we just bought 2 buildings, and in other states, there are about 2 more missions to be opened. And that is just in here. We have people on USA getting trained and even more on the whole world, I CAN prove it, you cant.

[LFraudHubbard]

That where NarCONon's, The Second Chance Centre is about to loose all it's funding. Which thanks to your local news report everyone now knows about. Which fraudulently claims to get criminals off drugs and alcohol, has asked your state government for $3,000,000 to fund its program

However, what a lot of people don't realize is that Second Chance uses CRIMINON and NARCONON manuals and protocols and is a front group for Church of Scientology.

Expect Us

[LFraudHubbard]

Until COS services are offered with no mandatory fixed donation rate, to anyone interested. I will not consider your organization a charity, until your church espouses an ethics policy based on divine principles instead of statistics or pts/sp handle or disconnect policy, fair game. I will not consider your business a church. Oh and worshiping a deity or deities might be a good idea too, since that is an essential ingredient for most legitimate religions.

You guys look so sick lately.

[sodicoerv]

Scientology training and counseling costs, yes. Materials costs, electricity costs, everything to maintain the orgs or missions costs. Plus, the donation is not mandatory, you are not forced to donate, and the money goes to expand Scientology. Scientology is much more than PTS/SP that is just one part, there are a lot of things. I think we have talked enough. Lets leave space for other comments.

[Imariscent]

Yeah, but you are forced to take courses(front for donations). Sorry but church donations are not estimated to those ridiculous amounts. It's so sad that making money is the only goal that makes doing these things seem right. It's like selling land, when there is no land to build property on (figuratively speaking).

[LFraudHubbard]

"THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM". You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them." - L. Ron Hubbard, "Off the Time Track," lecture of June 1952,

YouTube search:

1. L ron on black people

2. L ron on christianity

3. L ron on muslims

4. L ron earth as prison for aliens

5. L ron on alester crowely

6. L ron on xenu

7. L ron on homosexuals

That's the scientology way!!

[sodicoerv]

I think it is enough. You always put the media as a truth. "Google it" "Check on youtube" and you also take phrases out of complete conferences and it does not make sense. I think this conversation is over. Lets leave space for other comments

[Imariscent]

I thought scientology was based on the "scriptures" of dianetics???? I am confused here. Wasn't that considered the Bible for your CULT?

[sodicoerv]

Scientology was developed after Dianetics. You can keep saying what the media tells you (CULT), or what you think, but as long as you don't at least read or look for yourself, it is worthless everything that you writte.

[Imariscent]

Well exactly my point numbnuts, which you guys are good at name calling. Isn't Dianetics where your getting you applications from? I mean it is your bible?; you guys are living by it's words. Or it wasn't perfect so L. Ron Blubbard had to write more books because Dianetics made no sense. Anyone that speaks out against this cult makes no sense...Why? clear it up for me. A mexican explained it better than any of you guys here posting insults.

[sodicoerv]

Imariscent, you don't have to insult. If you do not understand what it is, well, read something. Dianetics it is not our bible and it is not the complete info there is about existence. You can't put the whole knowledge in one book, that is why LRH has a lot of books, with diferent subjects (but all related in some way) I dont care listening to critics, as long as they come from a well-informed person that at least have read or that is willing to prove what he is saying. Im from Mexico by the way

[Imariscent]

Oh, I thought insulting is what you scientologist did best; Unless you guys have upgraded from that level. Well I know L.R.H doesn't have any real answers only theories of our existence. It's just self help books, and ridiculous rantings, I already know I am in charge of my universe, plus I don't need to read a book and pay thousand dollars of courses, or even 100 hours of labor or end up in debt to know that. Keep coming, we can do this all day. I have been getting what you pay for for free.:)

[sodicoerv]

Well, depends on your point of view. If you have not found any good info. on any book, well, fine. I think we can move on, there are people that will find Scn or Dn helpfull. Debt is not necesary, a book does not cost that much. If people do not agree on the cost, fine. You can pretty much get processing by doing 2 courses with another person an co-procces. That is the cheapest way, and it is free. That is how I got up, and it did not cost me even a thousand. Lets leave space for other comments

[Imariscent]

Common sense if it's a RELIGION, everything you guys are doing should be free(EX:Other REAL Religions). Isn't it supposed to be spiritual healing, that you guys give? It's a Pyramid Scheme Organization posing as a church. It's what is taught to you in the division 6 manual, to keep justifying what you are doing. As long as this person doesn't disable his comment box, there are going to be more of my comments coming. Your OT powers of trying to push my button to leave is not working.

[sodicoerv]

What you say is true, we are not like other religions, because in here we use materials, and a place to read, we need to pay for the general maintainance of the mission or org, etc ¿Do you think freedom should be free? You have to work in order to achieve freedom, it is not a simple work. It costs because of the physicall things that we need (like the ones I mentioned) Division 6 manual? Read it again and quote the phrase or part where it says that, but dont take it out of context. Wont find it

[deydaseingil]

you guys are living in a thousand illusions..

your psyche is to weak to work on it´s own appearntly , so you your find wisdom and greatness from a book that was written by a science fiction writer and call it a religion ?

[sodicoerv]

I understand what you say. Illusions? Weak Psyche? Well, I hate to pretend I can do something that I can't demonstrate. That does not mean that I can't get to THAT state where I will be able to do it. LRH, was a Sci Fi writer, a photographer, a musician, and a philosopher and I dont know if something else. I beleive anything that can be proved... that works when you apply it. If its a religion, well, I guess that its just a category (spirit), more than a benefit.

[sodicoerv]

The billion Year Contract seems to be weird if you do not get it. Yes, it's weird beacuse not to much people see the posibility of a next life and the truth, beacuse this world(and others) needs to be better, and it wont take years, it'll take long to fix it and keep it that way. Yes, you to pay for training and proccesing, but we need BOOKS, PEOPLES time, pay rent (some orgs dont), build builings, pay electricity, water, techonolgy, etc. I've got 48 caracters left, so I can't answer the rest...

[Bodatiousfilms]

hhahaha! Alexander Cockburn!

[Poopookachew1]

"Jim Jones' cult wasn't some wierd gang that had just been invented by a Johnny-come-lately.."

Yes, it was; hence the term "cult". What he's saying here: It's like stating that Bolsheviks or Kontslager Politzei (Jewish concentration camp inmates turned guards) were representative of Judaism in general... And this, coming from a Scientology lawyer. Bollocks.

[tigerlilly311]

I can't believe Rinder compared the word "cult" to the N- word. You've got to be kidding me. The N word is ALWAYS derogatory. The word "cult" is just a descriptor. *Being* a cult is bad; being called what you are isn't defamatory.

[mattwaad]

expect us

[crosswalkernie]

No organization in the world extracts more money from it's members than The Church of $cientology.

[Dirtythinker420]

I fuckin love this shit, these people are friggin retards. They have a fuckin NAVY, are you kidding me, how do people buy into this shit?! Not like any other religion is credible, but at least they have history that we cant prove or disprove leaving a little room for faith, but this dude fuckin INVENTED it, made it up, like that story of me bangin jessica biel at disney land in 93. Its priceless, we should be thankful we have something like this to help weed out the morons.

[Anonymous1075]

I couldn't have put it better myself!

[KaylebMichaelCanaan]

@Dirtythinker420 I hit that shit in ninety-fo!

[4rooney]

Invented By a Johny Come Lately

[trevorhotrod]

"You can make the blood and body of christ taken internally sound absurd." Well, yeah. Because it is absurd. No arguement there. And so is scientology.

[Richardgwm]

May xenu be with you.

[xabigailx]

That douche bag called "Cult" the new "N word".

[crosswalkernie]

Umm...what a dumbass! There is no "new N word". The "N word" fills a specific social (negative) position, it isn't something that is going to start representing other things through time.

[forgot10shadow]

the cult of $cientology....enough said

[stemikger]

Scientologist are crazy bastards. That is why they hate pschiatry, because they will all be in padded cells. LOL.

In all seriousness, it is shameful how gullable people are. Heck, I think I'll start a religion that will make more sense then this bullshit. John Travolta, Tom Cruise, I'm coming to get ya. LOL.

[theFallofScientology]

@stemikger They hate psychiatry because they believe that psychiatrists are minnions of Xenu.

[rickmojo]

Evil is not even close to what Scientologists are. I cannot believe that anyone with a sound mind would even come close to being a member. Its a cult for people of week minds, impressionable, who are easily lead. Anyone associated with THE CULT should be ashamed, its truly disgusting, they even have "Labour Camps" WTF. Last time I heard of a Labour Camp was back in WW2.

[guydecervens]

What an evil bunch of people. Hubbard was a Satanist for petes sake. How do those fools follow him?

[Nappeehead83]

I know this is really juvenille but Mike Rinder sounds a little bit like Elmer Fudd.

[aaabbbeee]

hahahahhaha

[newbirth35]

At 5:15 in the video Mike Rinder, director of the church, claims that Jim Jones' church was "a fairly mainstream Christian church...they were Christian." Jim Jones denied the existence of God and was anything BUT Christian! Scientologists will lie to make themselves seem more normal. Lies are not befitting of a true church. What a horrible cult! They are only in it for the money. I even fell for it once. Then I wised up.

[bearmare]

Time for genocide against Scientology! Herd them into the camps. Either they denounce their cult or they face the ovens. Aliens will not save them.

[11Jamie11]

"Time for genocide against Scientology! Herd them into the camps. Either they denounce their cult or they face the ovens."

No.

[bearmare]

They remain a dangerous threat to all peoples. They are, at their core, evil in the extreme. They are the descendants of the Nazis and worthy of incineration. Reduce them to ash and use them as fertilizer. Do they deserve a better fate?

[11Jamie11]

"Do they deserve a better fate?"

Yes. I want more Torys, more Jon Atacks, more Arnaldo Lermas, more Jason Beghes, more John Duignans -- not more graves.

Now, Miss Cabbage, OTOH... he is an utter psycho. I can see him becoming the next Jim Jones if not stopped.

[sodicoerv]

Who Is Behind This Documentary With Full Of Lies ?

Until You Understand What Scientology Is About, You Will Be Beleiveing This Type Of False Documentarys.

[solving]

How come no former members of scientology is positive about it's "religion" and work

[sodicoerv]

The lack of understanding of life and the religion of Scientology IS why you have doubts and mystery about it. There are people that found us threatning to their existence. Theres is NOTHING weird in it.

[blaze2001]

I read dianetics and found it interesting. Alot is about bettering yourself. I think everyone can get something from that.

[paulbottomley42]

Forward me a copy of Dianetics to read and I might read it. I'm sure as hell not paying for it though. And besides, you can't argue with hard evidence of Scientology's nefarious side like Lisa McPherson's cold corpse, or the campaigns of lies and antagonism against anti-scientology spokespeople.

[sodicoerv]

Paulbottomley, I won't give you a copy. It seems that you don't deserve it. Your statments (and some others peoples statments to) are based on other peoples statments. Advise: Find for yourself. YOU LOOK.

[paulbottomley42]

Look there is documentary evidence that Scientologists, including Hubbard's own wife, were committing treason. There is documentary evidence that people who speak out against it are hounded to the bring of insanity. On the Scientology website, there is a fraudulently named, professionally slated, "psych evaluation" that seems designed to lower self esteem and make one think negatively about oneself. This, to me, makes them lack some credibility.

[sodicoerv]

Paulbottomley, I understand. I don't care who is saying things against Scientology. I repeat: There are people that find us threatning to their existence (for some reason). scientology(dot)org it's the official web site, tell me where is the "psych evaluation". Tell me where EXACTLY IS the "bad", "dangerous", etc. of Scientology. If YOU LOOK, you won't find it. T.V. (Media in general)is controversy, and controversy is not equal to truth.

[paulbottomley42]

Ok, I shouldn't have called it a psych evaluation exactly, but the personality test is linked to from their front page. It's called an OCA test - the Oxford Capability Test, implying, whilst being very careful to not explicitly say, that it is patronised, if not invented by, Oxford University.  In fact, it has nothing to do with anything remotely related to Oxford. To be honest, Id like to take the test, so I can see for myself what it is about.

[sodicoerv]

Paulbottomley, this is my last post to you. Don't reply it, please. Do it. Do the test. Look at the questions. See the results at the end. If we use OCA test, it is because IT WORKS. Oh!, You say that it has nothing to do with Oxford. Well, inform yourself before saying that, because it called OCA for a reason.

[paulbottomley42]

I can find no link with the test and Oxford (Neither the place nor the university). It appears to have been bade by a guy called Ray Kemp, and first published in a Scientologist journal (rather than, say, a respected scientific journal such as Nature).

I had a look at the test, and all the questions seem to be worded in such a leading way as to make the testee overly self critical and erode their defences.

[sodicoerv]

Paulbottomley42, It WAS used in Oxford, I don't know if Oxford uses currently the test. I do know that it was taken form there.

Yes, OCA Test it is based on Self Analysis questions, becasue, obviously, we want to know his level of comm., happinness, etc.

¿Erode their defences? Oh, no. Absolutley not. You know, forget Scientology. Scientology is not for you.

[ForestFay]

The test has really nothing to do with the university of oxford, but tell it to person with aliens around....

[Neuwo]

Go check out xenu(dot)net if you want to see why nobody trusts Scientologists.

[sodicoerv]

Neuwo, Go check out scientology(dot)org if you want to see why I don´t trust Xenu.

[stopcrazypp]

Youtube "Scientology: Andreas in Hollywood - Part 1" to see the creator of xenu(dot)net. Then go to religiousfreedomwatch(dot)org (created by the CoS). All the pp they accuse are known critics of the CoS. xenu(dot)net actually gives information and links from both sides, all the CoS does is call critics "anti-religious extremists" & try to slander their name. Come back & tell me who you should trust.

[sodicoerv]

Stopcrazypp, You are making statments based on others. ¿So are we going to talk about others, or about what you see when you go to a Scn church? I get what you say, but we know about them. We know about them. We know their intentions. That´s why they are out of Scn. Same advise: You look.

[stopcrazypp]

No thanks, I have seen enough from both sides to make my decision. This is the modern world. We can research & don't have to waste time/money to "try" things to find out anymore. If you're unwilling to see the other side, it's your choice. But don't tell pp to check out scientology(dot)org as if it's any less biased than xenu(dot)net. Except xenu(dot)net has posted facts that the CoS haven't been able to dispute for the past 10 yrs. Pp should look at both sites & judge for themselves.

[krasubke]

the most dangerous cult ever!

[maximus1939]

GO TO HELL

[infidel10]

It's a business not a religion.

[jerryeamon]

Religions are businesses as well as a form of government which are also businesses. Why do you think it is illeagal Why do to kill yourself in America? Because they can't make any money off of you if you are dead.

[TIM6669]

scientology is one of my favorit cults!! Neato!

[marktv3]

From failed Sci-Fi writer to man who can cure anything?

BWAHAHAHAHAAAA. And morons buy into this.

Say hi to Xenu for me when you reach OTIII.

Idiots.

[TheRenegadesUK]

Go on Brian ... start with the 'What are your Crimes?' chant ...

*sigh*

[Turandot29]

The Paulette Cooper story is just the tip of the iceberg. The tactics of this cult are frightening.

Go to HexV xenu dot net and read it for yourself.

[briandenis1]

hey simpleton, why don't you do yourself a favour and read 'Dianetics'? Let go of that anger and stupidity, and stop misusing the word 'cult', unless by cult you mean 'pure truth'

[Turandot29]

I read Dianetics. I placed it the shelf alongside the Book of Mormon, the Bible and the Qur'an - all works of fiction and nonsense.

And, no, I use the term "cult" in the generally accepted meaning. Only a follower of L. Ron would contort the word "cult" to mean "pure truth." Save your money and drop this cult.

[burlearth]

Scientologists are the most hate filled people I have ever known, they are taught to spew venom and hate just like neo nazis, you can't even have a true intellectual debate with them, because they are anti-intellectual.

[deadsh33p]

lol theres a cia guy in the house