Having said all of that I have walked out on a job I didn't want to do. However, this was before the cuts. Now I would be lucky to get anything. I can't even start my own business because the banks added a job requirement to those loans.
About Cool mini or not: I ordered from them last year and it was a most dreadful experience. They have a 'don't care' attitude if they mess up your order. They sent me a mini which had no head. It took them 3 attempts to send the correct part, and were rude.
@MrElestial I am sorry to hear things are so bad in the UK. I think all citizens should take an interest in economics. I realize that I can't possibly be right about everything. But I respect people that have an opinion based in any amount of study.
@bluetablepainting I completely agree with what you are saying. What I don't understand is how the general public let big companies and the government get away with certain things. I honestly feel that 'going rogue' and throwing off the shackles of the big companies is the way forward. I can imagine that after the first year (Setup costs...) the only thing that limits us is our selves. I have yet to figure out how to do this in the current climate, but Blue Table is an inspiration.
Couldn't help but notice the comments on the UK job market below. Unfortunately, it is true. The profession I am trained for is in the arts and humanities sector, and there is no more funding for that sector. Also there has been a massive shift in bias towards age range in UK employment, meaning 30% of jobs are inaccessible to younger people. The snow last winter shut down stores in rural areas as people shopped online, which bankrupt many small businesses... recruitment is dire for the young.
I don't know if quiting your job is as easy as you make it sound. But whatever, everyone has an opinion.
As to the idea of a successful game, I think a big determiner is price. GamesWorkshop is very pricy, which excludes a lot of kids that want to play. The only guys that can afford it are old dudes like me.
Sorry. I'll say it again. When the economy is being battered and jobs are being cut in the UK, I can't just leave me job and move on. There are no jobs to be had. Don't tell me I can't complain about my employer when i can't get another job. I have been looking and applying for 2 and a half years, nothing happening.
@bluetablepainting Technically, with the job situation here the way it is I'd agree. However, for the person I am and the intelligence I have, no, this job is an atrocious waste of my brain. The reason I am perfectly within my right to complain is that it isn't my fault that jobs all over the country are being cut. It isn't my fault that employers can't afford to hire people. If I was a painting expert and asked you for a job but you couldn't afford to hire me, I could moan about my crappy job.
"You can choose your employer." Not over here in the UK, you can't. >_<.
If you've got a job, leaving it would be a huuuuuge mistake, I've been on Jobseekers for about 4 years. Though, if you were to leave your job for another one, it'd be best to make sure you've got a job lined up before youl eave your current one.
I'd be fuckin' sorted if you were my employer, though, but I could never paint to the standard your company does.
@Vehementi rules and... policies, but I could file a DMCA on this video (I wouldn't, don't worry :p.), but if you also keep track and post in channels that are part of the atheist "community" on Youtube, you find a lot of Christians and creationists file false DMCA claims against videos to censor them, it happens a lot. It's very easy to silence someone you disagree with here on Youtube, with no real punishable conseqnences.
@TheWolfBearProject Thank you very much. I often think that maybe there won't be much interest in these more serious vids, but maybe I should make more.
Another thing I'd add to what makes a sustainable game is having miniatures to support it.
I don't know how many times I've seen games that have a great history and rules set, but they just don't have the funds to put the miniatures out. You have to go around and get other companies' miniatures that aren't exactly what you're looking for, you have to proxy things, etc...
@HonestIowan and sometimes thats the best thing u can do, i play an awsome sci fi 15mm game, minis are planned too be brought out eventualy , but until then we have too use other minitures too repersent units, but hey thats fine theirs ton of miniture companys out their and i can be patient for them too make their minitures. but its not bad really, sometimes you find some really awsome figs, and get a chance and reason too purchase tons of em :)!
Imagine a game where for example two people play and spend the same amount of points for their troops, but the one guy gets two squads with good weaponry while the other dude just picks one character equipped with amazing weapons. And still the battle is good and depends on tactical and strategical thinking.
I'm becoming more intrigued in your ideas for your own game system and range. The idea of a single large group of units to mix and match sounds incredibly flexible, but my only caveat would be that I think it would be a nightmare to balance. Then again, maybe having all the options open to everyone would lend itself to balancing better rather than against other armies. Only way to find out it to try it I guess.
Reaper Paints are awesome Shawn. I also have to give you credit for supporting companies that keep jobs in the U.S or in my case Canada. More people should support companies in there respective countries.
I would *LOVE* to see a BTP line of minis/gaming system!! You have demonstrated over the years through your vids a true passion, dedication, and knowledge of the hobby, and if ANYONE *should* be making minis/gaming systems, it's BTP!!!!
Take a look at Ex illis. They have the force orginaization idea and character building sysytem that you talked about. You might be a little put of by the fact you use a computer to play the game, but it looks really fun.
15:05 - Except that the recent books seem to be doing exactly that by making said characters far superior options compared to the generic ones - and in some cases, direct replacements (where's the generic Chapter Master in the Blood Angels book, for example). I agree that WH/40k have offered that freedom, and that it's good, but it seems to be gradually getting replaced.
I'm fairly sure Mantic use 28mm, but not the 'heroic' proportion that GW uses (exaggerated weapons, hands etc).
Mantic is looking like they could be a big hitter. Bastion who make Ex illis could be anther big hitter if they pushed their game more, they have a epic board which you can take around with you in you battle foam bags.
i would love to help but i am a lumberjack so what can i do?.... well i would love bluetablepainting games. something that i would like is leaders that you can make yourself ( the fluff ) and how they would act on the battlefield. kinda like d&d. and if i hade alot of money, i would give bluetablepainting enough to start this thing because shawn, you really know what you are doing and what you are up against. Love it! :D
Chronopia! Grrrrr. When I was a wee lad and I wanted to get into Warhammer, the weasel who owned my local game store duped me into buying a bunch of those minis because he told me it was compatible with Warhammer.
Great video and yahoo for different games. Even if you guys did more GW specialist games, I would be happy (more so). A mordheim table would be sweet.
How about the Song of Blades and Heroes and all the settings books for it? It is a pretty good generic system if you can get by the horrible artwork in the books
Having said all of that I have walked out on a job I didn't want to do. However, this was before the cuts. Now I would be lucky to get anything. I can't even start my own business because the banks added a job requirement to those loans.
About Cool mini or not: I ordered from them last year and it was a most dreadful experience. They have a 'don't care' attitude if they mess up your order. They sent me a mini which had no head. It took them 3 attempts to send the correct part, and were rude.
MrElestial 11 months ago
@MrElestial I am sorry to hear things are so bad in the UK. I think all citizens should take an interest in economics. I realize that I can't possibly be right about everything. But I respect people that have an opinion based in any amount of study.
bluetablepainting 11 months ago
@bluetablepainting I completely agree with what you are saying. What I don't understand is how the general public let big companies and the government get away with certain things. I honestly feel that 'going rogue' and throwing off the shackles of the big companies is the way forward. I can imagine that after the first year (Setup costs...) the only thing that limits us is our selves. I have yet to figure out how to do this in the current climate, but Blue Table is an inspiration.
MrElestial 11 months ago
Couldn't help but notice the comments on the UK job market below. Unfortunately, it is true. The profession I am trained for is in the arts and humanities sector, and there is no more funding for that sector. Also there has been a massive shift in bias towards age range in UK employment, meaning 30% of jobs are inaccessible to younger people. The snow last winter shut down stores in rural areas as people shopped online, which bankrupt many small businesses... recruitment is dire for the young.
MrElestial 11 months ago
I don't know if quiting your job is as easy as you make it sound. But whatever, everyone has an opinion.
As to the idea of a successful game, I think a big determiner is price. GamesWorkshop is very pricy, which excludes a lot of kids that want to play. The only guys that can afford it are old dudes like me.
terrenord 11 months ago
I don't know if quiting your job is as easy as you make it sound. But whatever, everyone has an opinion.
terrenord 11 months ago
Sorry. I'll say it again. When the economy is being battered and jobs are being cut in the UK, I can't just leave me job and move on. There are no jobs to be had. Don't tell me I can't complain about my employer when i can't get another job. I have been looking and applying for 2 and a half years, nothing happening.
Eriatha 11 months ago
@Eriatha So, you're already at the best job that you can get? No other possibilities?
bluetablepainting 11 months ago
@bluetablepainting Technically, with the job situation here the way it is I'd agree. However, for the person I am and the intelligence I have, no, this job is an atrocious waste of my brain. The reason I am perfectly within my right to complain is that it isn't my fault that jobs all over the country are being cut. It isn't my fault that employers can't afford to hire people. If I was a painting expert and asked you for a job but you couldn't afford to hire me, I could moan about my crappy job.
Eriatha 11 months ago
didnt' you guys bribe a commisar with candy at adepticon?
BLOODKINGbro 11 months ago
"You can choose your employer." Not over here in the UK, you can't. >_<.
If you've got a job, leaving it would be a huuuuuge mistake, I've been on Jobseekers for about 4 years. Though, if you were to leave your job for another one, it'd be best to make sure you've got a job lined up before youl eave your current one.
I'd be fuckin' sorted if you were my employer, though, but I could never paint to the standard your company does.
Also, you say Youtube has reasonable rules and...
Vehementi 11 months ago
@Vehementi rules and... policies, but I could file a DMCA on this video (I wouldn't, don't worry :p.), but if you also keep track and post in channels that are part of the atheist "community" on Youtube, you find a lot of Christians and creationists file false DMCA claims against videos to censor them, it happens a lot. It's very easy to silence someone you disagree with here on Youtube, with no real punishable conseqnences.
Vehementi 11 months ago
Freaky. As i watch this there are 89 likes and 3 dislikes.
Beldaran74 11 months ago
great insightfull vid funny as always and the lovely sarah adds to it,,
moonbear 11 months ago
i would be a sculptor but i am too far away
mystupidboxers 11 months ago
You always come out with fantastic opinions shaun :) Cant wait to see some more Warmachine and Hordes on your channel
TheWolfBearProject 11 months ago
@TheWolfBearProject Thank you very much. I often think that maybe there won't be much interest in these more serious vids, but maybe I should make more.
bluetablepainting 11 months ago
when i first read this i thought it said radical muslims on the way to the airport........
KillKrazy666 11 months ago
Another thing I'd add to what makes a sustainable game is having miniatures to support it.
I don't know how many times I've seen games that have a great history and rules set, but they just don't have the funds to put the miniatures out. You have to go around and get other companies' miniatures that aren't exactly what you're looking for, you have to proxy things, etc...
HonestIowan 11 months ago
@HonestIowan and sometimes thats the best thing u can do, i play an awsome sci fi 15mm game, minis are planned too be brought out eventualy , but until then we have too use other minitures too repersent units, but hey thats fine theirs ton of miniture companys out their and i can be patient for them too make their minitures. but its not bad really, sometimes you find some really awsome figs, and get a chance and reason too purchase tons of em :)!
underfire987 11 months ago
Totally agree with all your points about what makes a good, sustainable game company.
I don't play WarMachine because I don't like playing named characters. Part of the fun for me is making up a backstory for my characters and army.
HonestIowan 11 months ago
LOVE Chronopia. Wish it still existed. I have the rulebook and play with other miniatures.
I used to work for GW and it made me hate them as a company. Not saying anything about their product, but as a company they are deranged.
HonestIowan 11 months ago
Does anyone else suspect Shaun is a polygamist and Sarah is the sister wife?
HonestIowan 11 months ago
one of the best gaming you tube vids ever
DiceLords 11 months ago
Imagine a game where for example two people play and spend the same amount of points for their troops, but the one guy gets two squads with good weaponry while the other dude just picks one character equipped with amazing weapons. And still the battle is good and depends on tactical and strategical thinking.
tmafkap 11 months ago
Did you plug valhalla at adepticon?
krashoej 11 months ago
Big army book is too complex. People don't like complex things.
228zip 11 months ago
I wish Freedom of Association applied to pop-ups on the internet
Gaunt75 11 months ago
Thanks for the view from plane. I always love how it looks but hate being in them.
Darqhart 11 months ago
I'm becoming more intrigued in your ideas for your own game system and range. The idea of a single large group of units to mix and match sounds incredibly flexible, but my only caveat would be that I think it would be a nightmare to balance. Then again, maybe having all the options open to everyone would lend itself to balancing better rather than against other armies. Only way to find out it to try it I guess.
So the next question: Fantasy, SciFi, SciFantasy?
graefx 11 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
You have been Incepted by CMON! :O
Maalve1 11 months ago
Entre dicho y acho y mucho decho?
IvanGTerrace 11 months ago
Promote Flames of war! That game is awesome. :)
Ohris 11 months ago
glad you have fun. *yawn*
GunBeryl 11 months ago
Reaper Paints are awesome Shawn. I also have to give you credit for supporting companies that keep jobs in the U.S or in my case Canada. More people should support companies in there respective countries.
StandardName3 11 months ago
I have to completely agree on WM/Hordes about the lack of customization.
Da40kOrks 11 months ago
Shawn, I think right now would be a good time to start developing a game.
xhandbasketx 11 months ago
I would *LOVE* to see a BTP line of minis/gaming system!! You have demonstrated over the years through your vids a true passion, dedication, and knowledge of the hobby, and if ANYONE *should* be making minis/gaming systems, it's BTP!!!!
jakewejee 11 months ago
I would LOVE to see a BTP minis line/gaming system!!!!
jakewejee 11 months ago
O_O how did you get away with having your camera record take off?
Warpetrie 11 months ago
how are you posting 30 minute videos if you arent a partner?
redz948 11 months ago 2
Chicago IS evil, it's just better at hiding it than it was. Don't let it fool you.
mander917 11 months ago
Take a look at Ex illis. They have the force orginaization idea and character building sysytem that you talked about. You might be a little put of by the fact you use a computer to play the game, but it looks really fun.
88dinoman57 11 months ago
Shaun I would love to see your mind work in a game series, I wish I lived out by you, because I too aspire to make my own game system.
KovnikKris 11 months ago
15:05 - Except that the recent books seem to be doing exactly that by making said characters far superior options compared to the generic ones - and in some cases, direct replacements (where's the generic Chapter Master in the Blood Angels book, for example). I agree that WH/40k have offered that freedom, and that it's good, but it seems to be gradually getting replaced.
I'm fairly sure Mantic use 28mm, but not the 'heroic' proportion that GW uses (exaggerated weapons, hands etc).
MalusCalibur 11 months ago
and then we have big government... uh oh... can of worms of politics!!1 nuuuuuu.
theaznfishy 11 months ago
Mantic is looking like they could be a big hitter. Bastion who make Ex illis could be anther big hitter if they pushed their game more, they have a epic board which you can take around with you in you battle foam bags.
Rabbitminiatures 11 months ago
i would love to help but i am a lumberjack so what can i do?.... well i would love bluetablepainting games. something that i would like is leaders that you can make yourself ( the fluff ) and how they would act on the battlefield. kinda like d&d. and if i hade alot of money, i would give bluetablepainting enough to start this thing because shawn, you really know what you are doing and what you are up against. Love it! :D
Foresttroll93 11 months ago
Best Shawn rambling ever.
Loved hearing your thoughts on Adeptacon, and the future of BTP, and the industry. Great vid.
LepLebooD 11 months ago
Chronopia! Grrrrr. When I was a wee lad and I wanted to get into Warhammer, the weasel who owned my local game store duped me into buying a bunch of those minis because he told me it was compatible with Warhammer.
Great video and yahoo for different games. Even if you guys did more GW specialist games, I would be happy (more so). A mordheim table would be sweet.
MrBlaarghh 11 months ago
i would realy like to hear more about your game system, i would realy lika a video were you talk about it: )
goo shawn
Tr00ken 11 months ago
there is only one down side to your long videos, my dsl takes forever to load them lol.
wakcedout 11 months ago
Great video Shawn, I like your ideas...your on the right path to some big things.
wgavril 11 months ago
How about the Song of Blades and Heroes and all the settings books for it? It is a pretty good generic system if you can get by the horrible artwork in the books
TheKarnophage 11 months ago
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ChaosBroodLord 11 months ago
glad my home town won you over Shaun! :D
jvry8c 11 months ago 5
Shaun, you may be the goofiest man on youtube, but you are without a doubt ingenious in nature
ChaosBroodLord 11 months ago 19
really nice coverage, you should do more blog videos aside from just studio things
phobosekt 11 months ago