fuck this guy fuck pat quinn fuck all the corrupted fucks ruining our state. they the same thing all the time and their ads go back and forth at each other, so who r u gonna vote for? douchebag number 1 or 2?
I've been seeing these commercials on tv so many times and all I have to say is that for all you people making these retarded ass commercials, stop airing this shit, fuck politicians, your nothing but a bunch of old fucking grandpas
I voted for Brady on primary day, and I wished I hadn't. I should've voted for my first choice, Adam Andzrejewski. Brady will say anything to get elected. If he calls increasing taxes by 33% (which actually equals to around 1.3%, given that we pay only 3%, less than many other states) in order to pay for our children's education, then he doesn't know what big government is.
@ajd1211 The thing is though that we pay property taxes that rival Texas, which has no state income tax. We also pay one of the highest sales taxes, the highest if you live or shop in Cook County. Illinois doesn't have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem. Bloated pensions because of public sector unions and corrupt politicians. Bill's not talking to get elected, he's speaking truths. Lets hope we can get him a cooperative legislature though.
@JohnRhysMusician Unless you're a state employee, you don't know what you're talking about. I know first hand, because I'm a public sector employee, and a proud member of AFSCME, and I assure you, my pension isn't "bloated" as you claim, unless you consider a pension of around 44,000 a year bloated. I don't live or shop in Cook County, thank God. However, the county I live in has the 3rd highest sales tax in the state at 7.25%. You did hit the nail on the head about corrupt politicians...
@ajd1211 and Brady is just as corrupt as they come. I wonder how many more contracts his company has received since he became a State Senator. One thing that I don't understand is why the state CMS forces state agencies such as mental health facilities and state prisons to purchase the groceries and prescription drugs they need from any certain company. My mother was a mental health tech for 13 years, and the facility she worked at, due to the CMS, was forced to purchase their prescription drugs
from Watson's pharmacy in Springfield. At the facility I work at, our grocery bills are insanely costly because we're forced to buy it from wherever the CMS tells us. I say, let healthcare administrators and dietary managers negotiate contracts with their local merchants in order to find the cheapest prices for their necessities.
As far as raising state taxes, I say we should get rid of the state income tax altogether and raise the state sales tax to around 8.25%. It would be a net tax cut
of 1% for Illinois' workers (both public and private sector), and it would make everyone who lives in this state pay, as well as those who come to and through Illinois. It would give Illinoisans more money to spend, and it would increase the tax base.
Finally, in regards to Brady, I can't vote for someone who tries to say his opponent gave us our pay raises this year, even though he wasn't governor at the time these raises were negotiated into our contract in 2008. If he's that dishonest
Sorry, Watson's pharmacy isn't in Springfield. It's in Greenville and it's owned by then Senator Frank Watson. Sounds like the CMS is doing the bidding of state politicians, while making Illinoisans pay more for products that can be purchased for much cheaper prices from local merchants.
@ajd1211 The problem is that you have a pension, and the amount you contribute to it is small when you consider the length of retirement and the costs associated with that. It would be better for taxpayers if public sector employees were forced to have 401ks like normal private sector employees. Ideally most Republican governors would like to get rid of the AFSCME in Illinois and get rid of pensions for state employees and politicians. Some like Topinka are angry about the size of their pensions
@JohnRhysMusician Again, you have it all wrong. I'm not the problem. I contribute 8% of my entire paycheck to the state pension fund. The problem is the state is not funding it's pension obligations, and hasn't done so for years. Instead, politicians are using that money to fund pork projects in order to secure their re-election. Also, why would Republicans want to get rid of pensions for politicians when they're the ones receiving them?
@ajd1211 I too support eliminating the state income tax in favor of an increased sales tax. 8% is not a large contribution. Many people that I know pay 20% of their income into their retirement accounts, minimum 10%. Also, with a 401k you have to contribute 50% of the funds, taxpayers are contributing much more than 50% to pension obligations. Many Republicans have principles and know that getting rid of pensions is what is necessary to make the state solvent long term instead of raising taxes.
@JohnRhysMusician You say you know people who pay 20% of their paychecks into their retirement account, by that I assume you mean a 401(k), which are voluntary contributions. I also contribute into a state ran deferred compensation account, which costs the state nothing because the state doesn't match anything.
Gov. Quinn wanted us to agree to increase our pension contributions to 10%. I've got no problem with that, but he couldn't promise us the increases would go into the pension fund.
@JohnRhysMusician You also said that many Republicans know that getting rid of pensions is what is necessary to make the state solvent long-term. First, if the state gets rid of state pensions altogether, you would have such a high turnover rate at state facilities, they would have to shut down until they could re-hire, and in doing so, you would have to train the new workers, which would make state services inefficient. Second, if our pensions were eliminated, I and many people like me would
@JohnRhysMusician sue the state to get our contributions back. I personally have contributed around $10,000 alone to the pension fund. The state would face so many lawsuits from state workers that it would end up owing millions, if not billions back to state workers it would put the state in more debt than it could handle, (and believe me I would sue to get my contributions back if my pension were taken away).
@JohnRhysMusician I know that, and that will be done in January when the new tier pensions take effect. I'm going to quote you a line from Mark Twain. He said "What is popular isn't always right. What is right isn't always popular." It's not right to take away the pensions of those that were promised a pension when they retire. And just because the private sector has done it doesn't mean it's right. Phasing out state pensions is simply the wrong thing to do. Period. It would cost the state more
@JohnRhysMusician in the long run, and it will hurt those who have worked hard providing the services that Illinoisans depend on in their retirement.
I'm going to quote you a statistic that I heard on the radio a few weeks ago. More Americans age 65 and older are re-entering the workforce than those between 18 and 21. Why? Because their 401k retirement plans are going broke due to this roller coaster stock market we have. 401k's aren't reliable forms of retirement income.
@ajd1211 401ks are not as reliable as pensions; but they are largely self funding because they increase with economic activity. Economic inactivity is only temporary. Most 401k plans have recovered since the downturn of 2009. Also different 401k investment managers get different results.
@JohnRhysMusician 401k's are like amateur doctors trying to make a diagnosis, they try hard, but don't always get the job done. You said that economic inactivity is only temporary. I also must point out that economic activity and robust economic activity is also temporary. The economy has cycles, and many times during a person's 401k life, they face downturns. A pension is the best method to protect retirees from losing their income and, in their old age, being forced to go back to work.
@JohnRhysMusician One other thing, of course different 401K managers get different results. No two financial managers will think alike all the time and make the same choices all the time. My deferred comp account has lost around $500.00 since 2009 and has been in existenc since January of 2009. Also, many of my co-workers have lost money in their accounts since 2009. A pension is the best way to guarantee income after retirement.
Back Brady and Kay!
jimbolt 1 year ago
fuck this guy fuck pat quinn fuck all the corrupted fucks ruining our state. they the same thing all the time and their ads go back and forth at each other, so who r u gonna vote for? douchebag number 1 or 2?
underdog8892 1 year ago
Lex Green for governor!!!
Libertarian
kommon12Cents 1 year ago
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bill is a major FAGGOT!!!! fuck him.
Sakaki709 1 year ago
I've been seeing these commercials on tv so many times and all I have to say is that for all you people making these retarded ass commercials, stop airing this shit, fuck politicians, your nothing but a bunch of old fucking grandpas
Broman679 1 year ago
I voted for Brady on primary day, and I wished I hadn't. I should've voted for my first choice, Adam Andzrejewski. Brady will say anything to get elected. If he calls increasing taxes by 33% (which actually equals to around 1.3%, given that we pay only 3%, less than many other states) in order to pay for our children's education, then he doesn't know what big government is.
ajd1211 1 year ago
@ajd1211 The thing is though that we pay property taxes that rival Texas, which has no state income tax. We also pay one of the highest sales taxes, the highest if you live or shop in Cook County. Illinois doesn't have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem. Bloated pensions because of public sector unions and corrupt politicians. Bill's not talking to get elected, he's speaking truths. Lets hope we can get him a cooperative legislature though.
JohnRhysMusician 1 year ago
@JohnRhysMusician Unless you're a state employee, you don't know what you're talking about. I know first hand, because I'm a public sector employee, and a proud member of AFSCME, and I assure you, my pension isn't "bloated" as you claim, unless you consider a pension of around 44,000 a year bloated. I don't live or shop in Cook County, thank God. However, the county I live in has the 3rd highest sales tax in the state at 7.25%. You did hit the nail on the head about corrupt politicians...
ajd1211 1 year ago
@ajd1211 and Brady is just as corrupt as they come. I wonder how many more contracts his company has received since he became a State Senator. One thing that I don't understand is why the state CMS forces state agencies such as mental health facilities and state prisons to purchase the groceries and prescription drugs they need from any certain company. My mother was a mental health tech for 13 years, and the facility she worked at, due to the CMS, was forced to purchase their prescription drugs
ajd1211 1 year ago
from Watson's pharmacy in Springfield. At the facility I work at, our grocery bills are insanely costly because we're forced to buy it from wherever the CMS tells us. I say, let healthcare administrators and dietary managers negotiate contracts with their local merchants in order to find the cheapest prices for their necessities.
As far as raising state taxes, I say we should get rid of the state income tax altogether and raise the state sales tax to around 8.25%. It would be a net tax cut
ajd1211 1 year ago
of 1% for Illinois' workers (both public and private sector), and it would make everyone who lives in this state pay, as well as those who come to and through Illinois. It would give Illinoisans more money to spend, and it would increase the tax base.
Finally, in regards to Brady, I can't vote for someone who tries to say his opponent gave us our pay raises this year, even though he wasn't governor at the time these raises were negotiated into our contract in 2008. If he's that dishonest
ajd1211 1 year ago
now, maybe he's too dishonest to be governor. I'm voting for Quinn. I don't like him either, but at least I know what I'm getting.
ajd1211 1 year ago
Sorry, Watson's pharmacy isn't in Springfield. It's in Greenville and it's owned by then Senator Frank Watson. Sounds like the CMS is doing the bidding of state politicians, while making Illinoisans pay more for products that can be purchased for much cheaper prices from local merchants.
ajd1211 1 year ago
@ajd1211 The problem is that you have a pension, and the amount you contribute to it is small when you consider the length of retirement and the costs associated with that. It would be better for taxpayers if public sector employees were forced to have 401ks like normal private sector employees. Ideally most Republican governors would like to get rid of the AFSCME in Illinois and get rid of pensions for state employees and politicians. Some like Topinka are angry about the size of their pensions
JohnRhysMusician 1 year ago
@JohnRhysMusician Again, you have it all wrong. I'm not the problem. I contribute 8% of my entire paycheck to the state pension fund. The problem is the state is not funding it's pension obligations, and hasn't done so for years. Instead, politicians are using that money to fund pork projects in order to secure their re-election. Also, why would Republicans want to get rid of pensions for politicians when they're the ones receiving them?
ajd1211 1 year ago
@ajd1211 I too support eliminating the state income tax in favor of an increased sales tax. 8% is not a large contribution. Many people that I know pay 20% of their income into their retirement accounts, minimum 10%. Also, with a 401k you have to contribute 50% of the funds, taxpayers are contributing much more than 50% to pension obligations. Many Republicans have principles and know that getting rid of pensions is what is necessary to make the state solvent long term instead of raising taxes.
JohnRhysMusician 1 year ago
@JohnRhysMusician You say you know people who pay 20% of their paychecks into their retirement account, by that I assume you mean a 401(k), which are voluntary contributions. I also contribute into a state ran deferred compensation account, which costs the state nothing because the state doesn't match anything.
Gov. Quinn wanted us to agree to increase our pension contributions to 10%. I've got no problem with that, but he couldn't promise us the increases would go into the pension fund.
ajd1211 1 year ago
@JohnRhysMusician You also said that many Republicans know that getting rid of pensions is what is necessary to make the state solvent long-term. First, if the state gets rid of state pensions altogether, you would have such a high turnover rate at state facilities, they would have to shut down until they could re-hire, and in doing so, you would have to train the new workers, which would make state services inefficient. Second, if our pensions were eliminated, I and many people like me would
ajd1211 1 year ago
@JohnRhysMusician sue the state to get our contributions back. I personally have contributed around $10,000 alone to the pension fund. The state would face so many lawsuits from state workers that it would end up owing millions, if not billions back to state workers it would put the state in more debt than it could handle, (and believe me I would sue to get my contributions back if my pension were taken away).
ajd1211 1 year ago
@ajd1211 More people would be interested in phasing out state pensions, in other words not welcoming any new hires into the pension program.
JohnRhysMusician 1 year ago
@JohnRhysMusician I know that, and that will be done in January when the new tier pensions take effect. I'm going to quote you a line from Mark Twain. He said "What is popular isn't always right. What is right isn't always popular." It's not right to take away the pensions of those that were promised a pension when they retire. And just because the private sector has done it doesn't mean it's right. Phasing out state pensions is simply the wrong thing to do. Period. It would cost the state more
ajd1211 1 year ago
@JohnRhysMusician in the long run, and it will hurt those who have worked hard providing the services that Illinoisans depend on in their retirement.
I'm going to quote you a statistic that I heard on the radio a few weeks ago. More Americans age 65 and older are re-entering the workforce than those between 18 and 21. Why? Because their 401k retirement plans are going broke due to this roller coaster stock market we have. 401k's aren't reliable forms of retirement income.
ajd1211 1 year ago
@ajd1211 401ks are not as reliable as pensions; but they are largely self funding because they increase with economic activity. Economic inactivity is only temporary. Most 401k plans have recovered since the downturn of 2009. Also different 401k investment managers get different results.
JohnRhysMusician 1 year ago
@JohnRhysMusician 401k's are like amateur doctors trying to make a diagnosis, they try hard, but don't always get the job done. You said that economic inactivity is only temporary. I also must point out that economic activity and robust economic activity is also temporary. The economy has cycles, and many times during a person's 401k life, they face downturns. A pension is the best method to protect retirees from losing their income and, in their old age, being forced to go back to work.
ajd1211 1 year ago
@JohnRhysMusician One other thing, of course different 401K managers get different results. No two financial managers will think alike all the time and make the same choices all the time. My deferred comp account has lost around $500.00 since 2009 and has been in existenc since January of 2009. Also, many of my co-workers have lost money in their accounts since 2009. A pension is the best way to guarantee income after retirement.
ajd1211 1 year ago
im glad you won the primary bill, you have my vote on election day
ofcccaddy2004 1 year ago