The Norwood Builder - Part 6 of 6 (Sherlock Holmes)

[60037894]

"his work is his own reward"!!! that's just awesome

[talitakoomi]

Anyone know in which story Holmes first hears of Moriarity? I know that "Final Problem" is the one where they go over the falls, but what is the one before it? And which is the story directly following Holmes' "death"? Thanks for your help!

[sparrowa02]

@talitakoomi Hi there. In this TV series, Moriarty first appears at the very end of "The Red Headed League" and then again in "The Final Problem" when he goes over the Reichenbach Falls. In the actual books, he appears first in "The Final Problem' and then later in a story called "The Valley of Fear" which was written before the "Final problem", but was published afterwards.

[talitakoomi]

@sparrowa02 Much thanks!! I love Sherlock! Maybe it's that whole "inaccessability" thing that's so enticing....he was the first of the great detectives! Everybody else just borrowed from Arthur Conan-Doyle's brilliance. Ever read "A Study in Scarlet"? T'would make a great movie- but the Mormons would have a COW!!! :)

[sparrowa02]

@talitakoomi You are most welcome. I've never read "A Study in Scarlet" but I will - thanks for the tip!

[candr]

@talitakoomi The greatest, by all means, but not the great first. "The Murders in the Rue Morgue" by Poe presents C. Auguste Dupin who used much the same methods as Sherlock in 1841 to be continued with "The Mystery of Marie Rogêt" and the "The Purloined Letter" in the next few years. While Doyle is said to have gotten his character from Dr Bell of Scotland there are some that suggest some of it might have been that of Dupin.

[candr]

@talitakoomi The story after "The Final Problem" is "The Adventure of the Empty House" where Watson follows a book seller to his apartment and find it is Holmes in disguise. Holmes explains how sorry he was for making him believe he was dead for the last two years. Then ask him to assist him in the present case, which involves one of Moriarity killers trying to take revenge on Holmes by trying to shoot him from a house across the street with a hunters air gun.

[nebraskame]

If he took the wax thumb mark and pressed it on the wall to leave a bloody thumb print, wouldn't the thumb print be backwards (mirror image)?

[gaiagale]

@nebraskame clever! ...of course it would

[jlim2397]

@nebraskame In the short story Oldacre makes a wax impression from the seal, thus ensuring the final print would be the right way round. In fact, in this program you can briefly see Oldacre doing it with a white candle. But this explanation seems to have been cut for clairity.

[CanadaCob]

@nebraskame i think he poor fresh wax onto the original...the pulled it out and then used it

[doctornonnel]

OFC :}

[Detectivefiction]

The music at the end is the "Sherlock Holmes" theme arranged as though written by Chopin.

[Lyrictheac]

I love the music that plays during the end credits.

[Rikku2250]

You know, when i first read this is book form, i was suspicious of the Housekeeper from the moment McFarlane mensioned her, before it was releaved how tight-lipped she was.

I also had a niggling feeling that Oldacre was atill alive, as the crime, to me, seemed too perfect, too orcastated.

When reading Holmes stries, i have noticed i figure little details Holmes does, nother being the real indenity of Vincent Spaulding being in fact John Clay. ^_^

[Songsmirth]

So, does that mean the kid gets all of the man's wealth? And his depts?  The horror of a man might have won after all. Debtors were town in Newgate. They called it, "deptors prison" I believe. If you want an interesting study see how people lived in Newgate.

[Kooshmeister3]

@Songsmirth Since the debts weren't mentioned in the will it was drafted with incomplete information, and it was made under false pretenses as well. I know little about British law at the time but possibly this could invalidate it?

[Songsmirth]

@Kooshmeister3 Hi Koo. I'm dylexic and can tell I wrote this at night when I was tired. Bad spelling. It would be interesting to know the laws of the time. I've recently come on a series that is excellent called, "Gallows Law." Do see it. The first police called, "Runners." I have a book on them and how English police were formed. People were robbed in broad daylight in London in their carriages and society got sick of it. A man organized police to stop it. Got $ from the govenment.

[DemMedHornene]

This episode was rather amusing, I like how the story makes a sudden twist at the end.

[Imverycute2]

LOVE the clap on Lestrade's shoulder! Holmes's smug little "I told you so!"

[HerrGobel]

I say, what is the title of the song that the fellow was playing on the piano at the end?

[CaptainPolaris]

@HerrGobel I'm not entirely sure, but to me it sounded like a variation on the show's theme.

[TheKulu42]

Quite true. I"m sure Lestrade is good at conventional cases; those involving Holmes do tend toward the odd, thus requiring imagination.

This lack of vision seems too characteristic of Scotland Yard in Homes' time. He said as much about Inspector Gregerson in "Silver Blaze."

[Spyritus]

"That privilege must surely be mine."

The noise you just heard was sound of jaws dropping in wonder at the massive amounts of awesome.

[giles422]

@Spyritus right the f--k on, man. Agree 100 percent

[notAbba]

Unfortunately, it wasn't a mystery at all -- 100% transparent, right down to the thumbprint. But 55 minutes cannot contain a good novel.

[TheKulu42]

I've always imagined that Lestrade is at least competent, but he seems out of his element when the crime takes an unconventional turn. Note how quickly he deduced-with a hint from Holmes-the housekeeper's involvement.

[sleedolfine15]

In the stories,Holmes described Inspector Lestrade as being the best of the inferior official police force.

[TheKulu42]

Quite true. And Lestrade shows his true character when he's big enough to admit that Holmes was right and he was wrong.

[Andreus]

@TheKulu42 Lestrade's a good man, really. His heart's in the right place.

[TheKulu42]

@Andreus Agreed. Lestrade's a decent chap and he actually became Holmes' and Watson's good friend. I believe Lestrade wasn't a bad detective, either; however, like others, he benefited from Holmes' assistance when a case took an unconventional term.

By the way, if Oldacre had been murdered in his living room, there should have been blood on the floor, walls and even the ceiling, not just the walking stick.

[Andreus]

@TheKulu42 Yeah, I've always thought that was an oddity. One that's actually related to this particular depiction of the Norwood Builder is... look at the actor they chose to portray McFarlane. Do they honestly expect a man like him to have been able to beat Oldacre to death?

Also, Lestrade specifically states that the thumbprint must have occured when McFarlane came to collect his hat and stick - which were stated earlier to have been left at the scene of the crime.

[TheKulu42]

@Andreus That's a good point about McFarlane Vs. Oldacre. In Sidney Paget's illustrations, Oldacre is a withered thing my grandma could strangle, but in the Granda adaptation he's much more formidable physically. The only way McFarlane could take him down is to hit him from behind or something.

Good point about the thumbmark, too. What of his clothes? If bloody enough to leave finger prints, bloody enough to leave some on his clothes.

[Andreus]

@TheKulu42 Generally the Norwood Builder, in all its adaptations, is full of plotholes such as this, but I forgive everything because canonically it's the first story after The Empty House and there's a lot of tie-in with it.

[ceruleanmist111]

Beautiful ending music.

[McCoyFan]

Haha, I love how he just gives all the credit to Lestrade. Ah, but I like Lestrade, so it's okay. One of my favorites!

[ThreePipeProblem]

Colin Jeavons as Lestrade is just..cute *squee* ^_^

[McCoyFan]

@ThreePipeProblem

I know! He's adorable! (double *squee*)

[RokiaNY]

Loved the piano at the end. beautiful

[calamagrostis88]

Great episode and it shows that Holmes does not rely on intellect alone, he has a feeling that something is wrong, and he trusts the perception of his unconscious mind before he has all the facts.

[ShawDAMAN]

Pause at 1:05

That would make a great drawing, or a poster. :D Holmes with the smirk of success, Watson pensive as usual after his exposure to criminality and Lestrade looking a bit befuddled. Love the profile shot at 1:11 too.

[carmichaelful]

Puffin is correct. A will needs at least 1 witness to be legally changed. Moreover, such legal ignorance is inconsistent with the clerk as a freemason; freemasons pride themsleves on knowing civic/legal things.

Nonetheless, a great episode and the first one that I got right!! After 12 mins I worked out that the builder wasn't dead. When the cash was transferred to "cornelius" that clinched it.

Thanks for putting it up!

[airplaneman123]

i love that song

[flamablebug]

these episodes are the best depiction of the great detective save those in the origional stories writen by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle himself

[bonkobonko123]

Thank you anish for sharing these videos with us. I enjoy them very much.

[kramnesnay]

Holmes is a genius! What a great eposide: this is so different from most of today's rubbish on TV where you do not need to use your brains.

Thanks for posting, these episodes are all gems.

[Exotic808]

Thanks for sharing all this with us. I enjoy these videos more than anything else.

Paul

[crickethelper111]

cool episode man

[puffin02]

Unfortunately, it all rests on an impossibility. That will was never made. It was never legally witnessed - two witnesses are required, neither of them beneficiaries. No London solicitor could possibly have been so ignorant as to think that there was ever anything in it. No London policeman - not even Lestrade - would have considered it a motive for murder.

[arminfdordrecht]

great ending

[kaisenji]

Great bollocks, that is evil indeed. Can you imagine waiting 20 some odd years just so you can seek revenge on an old lover? Ye gods how dark! Brilliant job, Holmes! Watson you too good man!

[Sherlocksweetonme]

Tacklehuggle for Sherlock! Weeeeee!! *runs to hug him* *Oomf* *grins*

[herodotus53]

I don't understand exactly why he killed the homeless sailor-- just so he would have a body with which to frame McFarland? What a sick bastard.

[sailorearth2007]

They changed it a little from the book...there it was a rabbit.

[harrysboy]

Thank you for posting this great episode..