None of us never really know exactly what happened unless we were PIC. But it's interesting. He's losing power the entire time (something that does not or should not happen in a helicopter unless it's a deliberate training exercise). Yet he tries to maintain the hover instead of dropping pitch and landing immediately while he has the time. An experienced pilot would not have done this. Thus I can only imagine that this was a deliberate low RPM training exercise gone wrong.
You know what i really think is sad ? Some people have the chance to film something REAL and Important..and at the crucial moment they turn of the GD cam..why?
I want to know what happend and how the pilot is ..if he is oke and how this could happen where it was and if the thing exploded afterwords or whatever the story may be..
Video makers can do so much more with their ONE TIME SHOT .
I give this video 5 stars of course , Good luck bro
@channel48 Maybe because they were a friend of the pilot and, correctly, felt the need to put human life before capturing the moment. You really need me to explain that?
@robclarkson Your so right i never tought of it that way..i looked from the selfish viewer side..sorry if i upset anyone..of course..Help comes in the first place..
oh so painful to watch, yes, it's dynamic rollover!! Wondering, where is the instructor? This pilot obviously cannot safely command solo, yet...left cyclic, lower the collective!!!
@nikitawolf2: Helicopters are actually very stable when operated correctly, similar to motor vehicles. In the U.S., there are, on average, 6,400,000 automobile accidents a year, for the 256,000,000 vehicles on the road; about 2.5%. Compare this to the average of 170 helicopter accidents each year in the U.S. for the 11776 in operation; about 1%. So you're actually more than twice as likely to crash a car than you are to crash a helicopter.
i dont beleive in thaht, because a guy crach is chopper is a stupid ass.., aircraft pilot and helochoper pilot, its a long learning curve, eatch flight, you will learn something, its easy to say we you see the video, but inside the cockpit, they happen fast, try to forgot the helicopter is going to crach, and try to take a descision at the same time you see the problem happening, ...i hope this guys as not been hurt...
@ZHAUSQ probably a lot of pilots watching youtube waiting in foreign airports...... while double-fisting some drinks and being surrounded by women of course
Apparently either there was a problem with the throttle or he didn't know what it was for. In the case of the former I think I would have flipped the magnetos off and autorotated.
Dynamic rollover begins when heli starts a pivot around skid. It may occur if the pilot does not use the proper landing technique or while on a slope. Whatever the cause, if the gear or skid becomes a pivot point, dynamic rollover is possible if the pilot does not use the proper corrective technique. Once started, dynamic rollover cannot be stopped by application of opposite cyclic control alone. Quickly applying down collective is the most effective way to stop dynamic rollover from developing.
he powered down for bout a sec as he was tilting but then he powered back up i think if he would kept power down he woulda balanced and went either way ,but after he decided to power up again while tilted it was all over
I have no rotary wing time at all and have no idea of what this pilot did or did not do to cause this accident. One person says "lower the collective immediately" another says that's a bad idea and instead use the cyclic "like you are supposed..". Is there a deifinative cause of this crash?
@LancairPropJet once he contacted ground he didnt lower his collective to keep it on ground skid dug into ground and becasue there was not enough negative pitch holding heli down it tilted pilot lowered collective briefly then raised it again pushing the heli over, it could have been avoided if the pilot lower collective upon landing or even when it was tipped over a correction using the cyclic whould have saved the crash reason for crash (PILOT ERROR)
Why all the fuss and bad language?, accidents will happen, does not matter who's in control, we all need to stay ahead of any ship we fly, as a friend of mine says, "it's another piece of equipment", learn it well...does not mean we are dumb, ignorant or otherwise,
You could hear he was losing RPM. I have a Mini 500 and the low RPM happens all the time in it. (it is under power with the rotax engine) His mistake was he did not LOWER THE COLLECTIVE IMMEDIATELY just like teez2009 said, I have 3000 hours in a R-22 and 100 hours in a mini 500
@rustbucket77 In the 3100 hrs you have did you ever read the flight manual, All you guys who think lowering the collective immediately is the answer, Do yourselves a favour and only land at airports were everything is perfectly flat. Helicopters do not need much slope for a dynamic rollover so when you set her down on the grass with a little too much slope make sure you have your insurance agents # with you, cause when you " immediately lower that collective your going over
@R44ChopperII You must be a 6 hr trainee, I never said every landing spot is flat I said just the opposite, and when you set down on a slope ( u idiot ) you better NOT slam the collective down or you could end up with your own youtube video like this one. Ask your instructor
@prohelipilot1 You seem to read a lot into my very short comment. Anyway, this guy wasn't landing on a slope, that spot where I have stood on a good few occasions is perfectly flat. What he was doing was rolling over - what would you advocate doing at that point?
@R44ChopperII You replied to my first comment, in which I replied to others who stated the proper thing to do was slam the collective down once you touch the ground and I said that is a bad habit to get into because if you slam the collective down on uneven gound you greatly increase the chance of a dynamic rollover. This guy let the rotor rpm decay, he also was not holding the heading ( he put in to much left pedal ) and he needed to apply left cyclic which he did not.
@R44ChopperII look at the comment by teez2009 above and the thunbs up by 16 other non pilots. Translating tendancy also played in this senario and you correct for a right drift with cyclic
Not an assumption at all, listen to the engine... You can hear the rev's decaying leading to it setting back down then getting into a "dynamic rollover" situation. Are you deaf or just fucking ignorant?
@mrloudly01 - Don't make stupid assumptions. Better still; if you don't really know what caused the crash - then refrain from making any comments at all !! You've just joined the distinguished, but growing list of YouTube commentating imbeciles !!
The cause of this incident is called: 'Dynamic Roll Over'. Look it up !!
@teez2009 My thoughts exactly......nobody ever seems to do this though....oh well, I guess there is those who know how to fly and those who think they know how to fly!
@airkraftinc no gonzo. It is called dynamic rollover. it occurs when a skid is jammed or help while the rest of the machine pivots about that skid. the only recovery is to lower the collective. RPM irrelevant.
@yellowrotorway i would not consider flying a heli normal human task but whatever...we are all human. simple the mistake, i just hope noone was seriously hurt.
The rotor way does not have a governor. Several new owners/pilots would pull collective on take off and if not enough power given would cause drop in rpm/power and loss of tail rotor effectiveness. The Copter would then start to spin and settle to the ground and cause it to flip over. Several rotor way instructors would teach pilots to get the copter light on the skids and then roll in a little power to raise the copter instead of collective to effect take off and maintain control. But the
I wasn't a pilot but a crew chief, logged a couple dozen hours I guess. I see in the comments a lot of Why why why about the throttle, could it be a simulated autorotation? And of course he should have dropped collective, but I just wonder if there was a problem with the throttle. The guy was taking video for a reason, perhaps daddy or mommy taking video of their young inexperienced pilot hopeful. Unbelievable that any flight instructor would let that happen.
What the hell was he thinking? Over level ground he just needed to throw down the collective. Crazy decision to attempt to throttle down instead of taking evasive action.
shitty instruction and/or bad piloting. what the hell were they still doing flying with a constant decrease in RPM? As soon as there's a drop in rotor rpm, put the stupid thing on the ground and dump the collective. the stupidity amazes me.
He was already on the surface once. If he would have just left well enough alone, he would have never damaged anything but his ego and as we all know, we can and usually recover pretty quickly from that and gain something of value as well! At least nobody got hurt except someone's wallet and time will cure that as well.
I am surprised that whoever was flying the aircraft at the time did not react to the situation immediately and set it down without delay while still under full control.
Personal experience .... the physical gyroscopic wash addaed with torque reaction allways mean one skid leaves the deck before the other ... for exaple on lift off my trexx 600 with clockwise rotation ... the left skid , allways allways allways without fail lifts before the right .
flown only r/c helicopters, but to me it looks like piss poor expierence in a expiermental aircraft, dont understand what others are saying hear not a trained guy in the feild of the real deal, but understand ground effect when hovering, and this guy to me froze up in a bad situation, and there is no room for that even in a r/c model!
That's my take on it too. ... I fly RC's also. I agree w/ the one guy saying he made mistake of lowering headspeed to come down instead of collective. ...many rc heli newbies make this same mistake also. Still, I think it could've been saved if collective was dropped and L cyclic was added.
What 3 Factors MUST MUST MUST be present A PIVOT PIONT check got that one, A ROLLING MOTION check there 2, oh and EXCEEDING the critical angle, we have a winner Im glad they were OK sorry bout the bird though. OH-58D KIOWA PILOT, not that would make me know shit
Yeah, he screwed the pooch on that one. sounded exactly like he was rolling off throttle and not lowering the collective to set down. You can hear the rotors start whacking low rotor rpm......I usually hear this sound at the end of a full down with the robbie. Never while still airborne. Pilot seemed to be using poor judgment. if the skid did hook the concrete, then dyn. rollover didnt help this poor guy....he was destined to buy a rotorway wreck-exec.
mr megahobbies, thats not really correct. you would have to understand the principle of the vectors concerned. once a skid is anchored or trapped then no amount of cyclic helps as it is producing the rollover effect and no amount of left or right movement changes that. Only and only a a quick reduction in collective reduces the vector. Rpms play no part in it, though by dumping throttle will have a limited but slow effect, but wthout the reduction of AoA the torque may not be overcome slow tail
iv'e only started flying planes and someday will try a helo, but thing like the last comment make me wonder how much stuff u have to think about while fly one. I look up to good helicopter pilots not stupid ones.
@bc1969214 nah - dynamic rollover usually happens in a situation where there's not enough authority (rpm too low) left in the cyclic to bring the heli back over ... as everyone else has stated - if u dump the collective, the heli will sit itself back down again, not very gracefully, but at least it'll be back on its skids... but in that situation u need to gently lower the collective WAY before it tips right up - like - in the first instant it goes to tip up....
I wanna see the aftermath and casualties.....Why shutdown the camera on such interesting moment....you dont crash a helicopter that often so keep recording it and not turning away from the crash...
Regarding repairs, I helped a new owner who purchased a rollover Rotorway. New skids, new landing gear, total disassemble and fix and paint bent/cracked frame, new main rotor blades, new main rotor shaft, new bolts and hardware, all new drive belts, new tail boom, new tail rotor, shaft and drive components. new windscreen, fiberglass repair, repaint and then re-assemble entire helicopter, track and balance new main and tail rotor system. Altogether about $30K in parts plus labor.
when ever low RPMS occur it follows lost of rotor authority then an induce dynamyc rollover happen (keep rpm to normal) if not posible procced with autorotation
Probably get some new blades at the local Hobbie store and some mothers car polish and it will be up in the air in no time under $39.00
MrShnartz 3 hours ago
how much is it
HAGLgroup1994 1 day ago
no
HAGLgroup1994 1 day ago
let me guess, you did not put the ¨RED BULL¨ can on the oil like i told you to!
trabajopesado 2 days ago
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MirelleLaRouge 3 days ago
Damn, that sucks:(
loveunderlaw 3 days ago
YOU PUT YOUR RIGHT FOOT IN.. YOU PUT YOUR LEFT FOOT OUT.....
YOU DO THE HOKEY POKEY AND YOU TURN YOURSELF AROUND......
awdturbo4 4 days ago
None of us never really know exactly what happened unless we were PIC. But it's interesting. He's losing power the entire time (something that does not or should not happen in a helicopter unless it's a deliberate training exercise). Yet he tries to maintain the hover instead of dropping pitch and landing immediately while he has the time. An experienced pilot would not have done this. Thus I can only imagine that this was a deliberate low RPM training exercise gone wrong.
CrazyHeliDude 1 week ago
You know what i really think is sad ? Some people have the chance to film something REAL and Important..and at the crucial moment they turn of the GD cam..why?
I want to know what happend and how the pilot is ..if he is oke and how this could happen where it was and if the thing exploded afterwords or whatever the story may be..
Video makers can do so much more with their ONE TIME SHOT .
I give this video 5 stars of course , Good luck bro
channel48 1 week ago
@channel48 Maybe because they were a friend of the pilot and, correctly, felt the need to put human life before capturing the moment. You really need me to explain that?
robclarkson 5 days ago
@robclarkson Your so right i never tought of it that way..i looked from the selfish viewer side..sorry if i upset anyone..of course..Help comes in the first place..
channel48 5 days ago
hinh nhu canh quat bi hu hong thu phai
HAGLgroup1994 1 week ago
oh very good
HAGLgroup1994 1 week ago
Ugh.... Dynamic rollover. Had the right idea at first then decided to fight it.
Frosttty 1 week ago
He should have idle the throtle once he landid
tubekhan 1 week ago
oh so painful to watch, yes, it's dynamic rollover!! Wondering, where is the instructor? This pilot obviously cannot safely command solo, yet...left cyclic, lower the collective!!!
helistudent1 1 week ago
@nikitawolf2: Helicopters are actually very stable when operated correctly, similar to motor vehicles. In the U.S., there are, on average, 6,400,000 automobile accidents a year, for the 256,000,000 vehicles on the road; about 2.5%. Compare this to the average of 170 helicopter accidents each year in the U.S. for the 11776 in operation; about 1%. So you're actually more than twice as likely to crash a car than you are to crash a helicopter.
abaker300 1 week ago
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nikitawolf2 1 week ago
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nikitawolf2 2 weeks ago
@nikitawolf2 faggot
howiyewa 1 week ago
Why didnt he just power off
Ninjaproness 2 weeks ago
noob
quantomic1106 2 weeks ago
flying too low or landing too high is always risky
fendertelecaster8225 2 weeks ago
Press 9 repeatedly.
CmdrGendoIkari 2 weeks ago
almost had it !
TheycallmeNads 2 weeks ago
rpms got to high
Which caused the mixture to flub up
bmx864life 2 weeks ago
rpms got to high
Which caused the mixture to flub up
bmx864life 2 weeks ago
Well that sucked.
transdrole 2 weeks ago
That'll buff right out.
LibertyAcres 2 weeks ago
Is this dynamic rollover?
sergpro 3 weeks ago
Was that that Hogg guy again?
7jocco 3 weeks ago
"we have got alot to learn from this footage" So blades + ground = bad. Got it.
ToyRail 3 weeks ago
You can learn pretty much anything you need to about flying in Flight Simulator X and fill in the blanks with wikipedia.
38ffems 1 month ago 7
*Quick - look up helicopter terms so I can compete with all these pilots*
TheMrBlinx 1 month ago
yes, we've learn that if you don't know how to fly one helicopter, and you try to do it, things may get wrong
spinixDH 1 month ago
d roll
7thsign68 1 month ago
FAKE...there was no explosion like i see in the movies... :p
dimos47ki7 1 month ago 2
If this engine's gonna die Ima dump more fuel in her and really kill it.
edgeflyer69 1 month ago
are these the helis with the 3 belts in series for the tail rotor?
corbystarlet 1 month ago
i dont beleive in thaht, because a guy crach is chopper is a stupid ass.., aircraft pilot and helochoper pilot, its a long learning curve, eatch flight, you will learn something, its easy to say we you see the video, but inside the cockpit, they happen fast, try to forgot the helicopter is going to crach, and try to take a descision at the same time you see the problem happening, ...i hope this guys as not been hurt...
enrouk 1 month ago
Sounded like decaying rotor speed to me and then dynamic roll over. Yes or no?
meccabumbleswan 1 month ago
@meccabumbleswan Yes from me. You could hear it.
stuartasutherland 1 week ago
oops!
No1SpeedSkiff136 1 month ago
no no he did it right just tense up and hope everything fixes itself lol
RubSomefastOnIt 1 month ago
Left cyclic to correct for drift then lower the collective. I hate to see such a beautiful machine torn to shit.
rockav8r 1 month ago
what i really like on youtube is that everyone is a pilot :) -.-
ZHAUSQ 2 months ago 45
@ZHAUSQ
you are tottaly right!
dutchwaterrocket 3 weeks ago
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Earssss 2 weeks ago
@ZHAUSQ ,, i am , ,since 96
Earssss 2 weeks ago
@ZHAUSQ so you have nothing to learn from this pilot...
baldeagle1195 2 weeks ago
@ZHAUSQ as far as this dumb ass is concerned i bet that is true
extere 2 weeks ago
@ZHAUSQ Yep, there is a lot of arm chair experts out there!
xrayracer1 1 week ago
@ZHAUSQ probably a lot of pilots watching youtube waiting in foreign airports...... while double-fisting some drinks and being surrounded by women of course
lostnamenowwhoami 1 week ago
@ZHAUSQ Im not a rotor guy but I believe that was what you call dynamic rollover!
stoneagearcher 4 days ago
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MENTALB0X 2 months ago
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MENTALB0X 2 months ago
stupid pilots at work...
MENTALB0X 2 months ago
LMFAO
j4416m 2 months ago
lucky
yz426clint 2 months ago
Dynamic Rollover. Take the pitch down and the heli will survive.
Johnny31297 2 months ago
@Johnny31297 i no i mean if he would of left it down it would of flipped back down the other way
tylerw48 2 months ago
Sweet
kyrkbymannen 2 months ago
losing RRPM for ages. Overpitched then dynamic roll, nice!
dorbot 2 months ago
Lol, they turn the collective UP!!!
vortexgaming77 2 months ago
bit off t-cut sort that out
ripcurl010 2 months ago
There is something to do with the pivot point too, the helicopters do things like that
Bernar2able 2 months ago
Apparently either there was a problem with the throttle or he didn't know what it was for. In the case of the former I think I would have flipped the magnetos off and autorotated.
fatqcockandballs 2 months ago
haha everyone here is an expert lol
MatiXB8TU 2 months ago
I think those helicopters are homebuilt, 600 scheduled hours of work, according the manual.
Bernar2able 2 months ago
This Heli a homebuilt job?
That's a very nice looking, well WAS a very nice looking Heli.
Sounds like it has a Rotax or something powering it??
flanksteak2 2 months ago
Dynamic rollover begins when heli starts a pivot around skid. It may occur if the pilot does not use the proper landing technique or while on a slope. Whatever the cause, if the gear or skid becomes a pivot point, dynamic rollover is possible if the pilot does not use the proper corrective technique. Once started, dynamic rollover cannot be stopped by application of opposite cyclic control alone. Quickly applying down collective is the most effective way to stop dynamic rollover from developing.
glassdogangle 2 months ago
he powered down for bout a sec as he was tilting but then he powered back up i think if he would kept power down he woulda balanced and went either way ,but after he decided to power up again while tilted it was all over
mygodhelpthem 2 months ago
I have no rotary wing time at all and have no idea of what this pilot did or did not do to cause this accident. One person says "lower the collective immediately" another says that's a bad idea and instead use the cyclic "like you are supposed..". Is there a deifinative cause of this crash?
LancairPropJet 3 months ago
@LancairPropJet once he contacted ground he didnt lower his collective to keep it on ground skid dug into ground and becasue there was not enough negative pitch holding heli down it tilted pilot lowered collective briefly then raised it again pushing the heli over, it could have been avoided if the pilot lower collective upon landing or even when it was tipped over a correction using the cyclic whould have saved the crash reason for crash (PILOT ERROR)
simon4557 2 months ago
OMG EJECT!
strikerk 3 months ago
Why all the fuss and bad language?, accidents will happen, does not matter who's in control, we all need to stay ahead of any ship we fly, as a friend of mine says, "it's another piece of equipment", learn it well...does not mean we are dumb, ignorant or otherwise,
MrDanbpilot 3 months ago
that guy is a stupid ass.
iFlyFPV 3 months ago 6
ouch
LTF85199 3 months ago
You could hear he was losing RPM. I have a Mini 500 and the low RPM happens all the time in it. (it is under power with the rotax engine) His mistake was he did not LOWER THE COLLECTIVE IMMEDIATELY just like teez2009 said, I have 3000 hours in a R-22 and 100 hours in a mini 500
rustbucket77 4 months ago
@rustbucket77 In the 3100 hrs you have did you ever read the flight manual, All you guys who think lowering the collective immediately is the answer, Do yourselves a favour and only land at airports were everything is perfectly flat. Helicopters do not need much slope for a dynamic rollover so when you set her down on the grass with a little too much slope make sure you have your insurance agents # with you, cause when you " immediately lower that collective your going over
prohelipilot1 3 months ago
@prohelipilot1 If you only land at airports were everything is perfectly flat then buy a plane.
R44ChopperII 2 months ago
@R44ChopperII You must be a 6 hr trainee, I never said every landing spot is flat I said just the opposite, and when you set down on a slope ( u idiot ) you better NOT slam the collective down or you could end up with your own youtube video like this one. Ask your instructor
prohelipilot1 2 months ago
@prohelipilot1 You seem to read a lot into my very short comment. Anyway, this guy wasn't landing on a slope, that spot where I have stood on a good few occasions is perfectly flat. What he was doing was rolling over - what would you advocate doing at that point?
R44ChopperII 2 months ago
@R44ChopperII You replied to my first comment, in which I replied to others who stated the proper thing to do was slam the collective down once you touch the ground and I said that is a bad habit to get into because if you slam the collective down on uneven gound you greatly increase the chance of a dynamic rollover. This guy let the rotor rpm decay, he also was not holding the heading ( he put in to much left pedal ) and he needed to apply left cyclic which he did not.
prohelipilot1 2 months ago
@R44ChopperII look at the comment by teez2009 above and the thunbs up by 16 other non pilots. Translating tendancy also played in this senario and you correct for a right drift with cyclic
prohelipilot1 2 months ago
Was a nice ship
rugman66 4 months ago
begginer pilot
epilot83 4 months ago
Sorry, just spotted the name..."Aussie" Just fucking ignorant then...
mrloudly01 4 months ago
22 secs it even appears to cut out. There's something wrong with the lump...
mrloudly01 4 months ago
Not an assumption at all, listen to the engine... You can hear the rev's decaying leading to it setting back down then getting into a "dynamic rollover" situation. Are you deaf or just fucking ignorant?
mrloudly01 4 months ago
If you listen carefully the engine appears to be loosing power, sounds as if it's slowly seizing up!
mrloudly01 4 months ago
@mrloudly01 - Don't make stupid assumptions. Better still; if you don't really know what caused the crash - then refrain from making any comments at all !! You've just joined the distinguished, but growing list of YouTube commentating imbeciles !!
The cause of this incident is called: 'Dynamic Roll Over'. Look it up !!
AussieAviator 4 months ago
what he could have done is LOWER THE COLLECTIVE IMMEDIATELY..
teez2009 5 months ago 47
@teez2009 losering the collective immediatlely is a bad habit to get into, what is wrong with using the cyclic like you are supposed?
prohelipilot1 3 months ago
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@teez2009 lowering the collective immediatlely is a bad habit to get into, what is wrong with using the cyclic like you are supposed?
prohelipilot1 3 months ago
@teez2009 Correct, that's the only way once it's so badly out of shape. He was never going up again with such low RRPM.
R44ChopperII 2 months ago
@teez2009 My thoughts exactly......nobody ever seems to do this though....oh well, I guess there is those who know how to fly and those who think they know how to fly!
cptfunkstar 4 weeks ago
Amateur hour. These guys should stick to ultra lights. In any case it's entertainment to watch.
offroadpilot22 5 months ago
You get several tries on a car, You get only ONE TRY on a helicopter.
fueledbymusic3 5 months ago
This demonstrates the three most important principles in flying rotorcraft. RPM RPM RPM.
airkraftinc 5 months ago
@airkraftinc no gonzo. It is called dynamic rollover. it occurs when a skid is jammed or help while the rest of the machine pivots about that skid. the only recovery is to lower the collective. RPM irrelevant.
RamboBunchie 5 months ago
agora que a brincadeira estava ficando boa!
keusonfs 5 months ago
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yellowrotorway 6 months ago
why did he pick up? would'nt just pushing down on the collective solved the issue? if not what would have been the propper remedy
CPLBSS88 6 months ago
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yellowrotorway 6 months ago
@yellowrotorway i would not consider flying a heli normal human task but whatever...we are all human. simple the mistake, i just hope noone was seriously hurt.
CPLBSS88 6 months ago
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yellowrotorway 6 months ago
Btw rotor way now has a governor upgrade.
GWood355 6 months ago
The rotor way does not have a governor. Several new owners/pilots would pull collective on take off and if not enough power given would cause drop in rpm/power and loss of tail rotor effectiveness. The Copter would then start to spin and settle to the ground and cause it to flip over. Several rotor way instructors would teach pilots to get the copter light on the skids and then roll in a little power to raise the copter instead of collective to effect take off and maintain control. But the
GWood355 6 months ago
I wasn't a pilot but a crew chief, logged a couple dozen hours I guess. I see in the comments a lot of Why why why about the throttle, could it be a simulated autorotation? And of course he should have dropped collective, but I just wonder if there was a problem with the throttle. The guy was taking video for a reason, perhaps daddy or mommy taking video of their young inexperienced pilot hopeful. Unbelievable that any flight instructor would let that happen.
jbnewberry9691 6 months ago
What the hell was he thinking? Over level ground he just needed to throw down the collective. Crazy decision to attempt to throttle down instead of taking evasive action.
Ausyacht 6 months ago
all he had to do.....was just lower the pole.....
globalpilot76 6 months ago
nice heli - well it was.
yeogav 7 months ago
put that collective down...sounded like he was rolling off the throttle to set it down.....what the hell was he thinking?
marinejock18 8 months ago
As my flight instructor put it.... "Never fly something without a CofA."
SuperChicken13 8 months ago
@SuperChicken13 what is CoFa??
stealhty1 8 months ago
@stealhty1 certificate of airworthiness... ultralights and experimentals aren't in the same category.
SuperChicken13 5 months ago
Another infamous dynamic rollover
pushitgently001p 8 months ago
WHAT A STUPID THING, PLAYING WITH THE THROTTLE AT LOWW ALTITUDES, STUPID PILOT !!!!!!!
AlexanderRivas 8 months ago
by :10 the sound of drooping rpm should have been the best time to start fixing things.
nickschor 9 months ago
Oh shit, not again.
oldfart387 9 months ago
The main thing is they walked away. Is that sort of like ground eft or P factor on one side? And was there a wind issue?
buckbeak1965 10 months ago
there is not alot to learn..its called drop collective to prevent dynamic roll over
jray0079 10 months ago
Thats funny LOL
ConwayTruckload 10 months ago
You broke your helicopter. Good Dynamic Rollover video.
jsaleen17 10 months ago
Hate to see that happen to a perfectly good ship...ouchie! That little bit of throttle at the end sent him over most certainly.
helobelow 11 months ago
shitty instruction and/or bad piloting. what the hell were they still doing flying with a constant decrease in RPM? As soon as there's a drop in rotor rpm, put the stupid thing on the ground and dump the collective. the stupidity amazes me.
dancedancetrance 11 months ago
He was already on the surface once. If he would have just left well enough alone, he would have never damaged anything but his ego and as we all know, we can and usually recover pretty quickly from that and gain something of value as well! At least nobody got hurt except someone's wallet and time will cure that as well.
I am surprised that whoever was flying the aircraft at the time did not react to the situation immediately and set it down without delay while still under full control.
Classic63EType 1 year ago
'alot to learn from this footage': dont buy a fucking rotorway
USMilitaryKillsKids 1 year ago
Personal experience .... the physical gyroscopic wash addaed with torque reaction allways mean one skid leaves the deck before the other ... for exaple on lift off my trexx 600 with clockwise rotation ... the left skid , allways allways allways without fail lifts before the right .
RotorHead2652 1 year ago
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FlightLevelHeaded 1 year ago
back on training wheels
stealhty1 1 year ago
OW! I bet when he started to tilt over he started going "FUCK, FUCK, HELP, HELP! AAAAAAAHHHHH!"
gavocrazy 1 year ago
OW!
gavocrazy 1 year ago
FOR SALE? lol
OneWatching 1 year ago
Im a model heli pilot and even i know when your blades are turning clockwise you put your left skid down first , deary me
RotorHead2652 1 year ago
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OneHoof 1 year ago
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OneHoof 1 year ago
10 seconds before the crash you can hear RPMS decay
stealhty1 1 year ago
Dynamic roll over. Hope the guys were ok
marshyman66 1 year ago
Its called Dynamic Rollover... Once past critical point... Nothing you can do... This was painful to watch;but, a great video for ecucation...
RossmanGroupNV 1 year ago
Its called Dynamic Rollover... Once past critical point... Nothing you can do... This was painful to watch...
RossmanGroupNV 1 year ago
flown only r/c helicopters, but to me it looks like piss poor expierence in a expiermental aircraft, dont understand what others are saying hear not a trained guy in the feild of the real deal, but understand ground effect when hovering, and this guy to me froze up in a bad situation, and there is no room for that even in a r/c model!
MotleyCrewMN 1 year ago
@MotleyCrewMN
That's my take on it too. ... I fly RC's also. I agree w/ the one guy saying he made mistake of lowering headspeed to come down instead of collective. ...many rc heli newbies make this same mistake also. Still, I think it could've been saved if collective was dropped and L cyclic was added.
bellhiller 1 year ago
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F51VetteRanger 1 year ago
What 3 Factors MUST MUST MUST be present A PIVOT PIONT check got that one, A ROLLING MOTION check there 2, oh and EXCEEDING the critical angle, we have a winner Im glad they were OK sorry bout the bird though. OH-58D KIOWA PILOT, not that would make me know shit
F51VetteRanger 1 year ago
Amazing how fast things go to hell & a hand basket.
HappySCVResident 1 year ago
Yeah, he screwed the pooch on that one. sounded exactly like he was rolling off throttle and not lowering the collective to set down. You can hear the rotors start whacking low rotor rpm......I usually hear this sound at the end of a full down with the robbie. Never while still airborne. Pilot seemed to be using poor judgment. if the skid did hook the concrete, then dyn. rollover didnt help this poor guy....he was destined to buy a rotorway wreck-exec.
Always go full down on the collective!!!
chopperpilotgod 1 year ago
opps ..sorry about that {as Maxwell Smart would say}
johnpro2 1 year ago
mr megahobbies, thats not really correct. you would have to understand the principle of the vectors concerned. once a skid is anchored or trapped then no amount of cyclic helps as it is producing the rollover effect and no amount of left or right movement changes that. Only and only a a quick reduction in collective reduces the vector. Rpms play no part in it, though by dumping throttle will have a limited but slow effect, but wthout the reduction of AoA the torque may not be overcome slow tail
range206 1 year ago
I'll stick to RC ones :P
vanepico 1 year ago 11
@vanepico - I thought that WAS an R/C !!!
dking5454 3 months ago
Dynamic rollover is a bitch aint it? Dump collective!
kentuckyfri 1 year ago
DUMP THE COLLECTICE JACKASS
yz250rider021 1 year ago
@yz250rider021 Dude...it's easy to criticize someone who's shoes you've never been in...right bitch? You don't even own an RC helicopter JACKASS.
HappySCVResident 1 year ago
Man, that was awesome! Dynamic rollover.
atlcrashpad 1 year ago
Epic Fail!!!
clomid100 1 year ago
iv'e only started flying planes and someday will try a helo, but thing like the last comment make me wonder how much stuff u have to think about while fly one. I look up to good helicopter pilots not stupid ones.
ullekush 1 year ago
Could he have saved it in the end by pushing the cyclic left? It's like it's balanced at around 0:23 then finally goes all the way.
bc1969214 1 year ago
@bc1969214 nah - dynamic rollover usually happens in a situation where there's not enough authority (rpm too low) left in the cyclic to bring the heli back over ... as everyone else has stated - if u dump the collective, the heli will sit itself back down again, not very gracefully, but at least it'll be back on its skids... but in that situation u need to gently lower the collective WAY before it tips right up - like - in the first instant it goes to tip up....
MrMegaHobbies 1 year ago
Why in the hell did he continue to fly with the loss of engine power? Experience teaches us all a valuable lesson. But that was an expensive lesson!!
ExtremeRecluse 1 year ago
Is you high????
ferrarif40owner 1 year ago
I wanna see the aftermath and casualties.....Why shutdown the camera on such interesting moment....you dont crash a helicopter that often so keep recording it and not turning away from the crash...
ferrarif40owner 1 year ago
@ferrarif40owner ....did you ever think that helping the injured occupants is more important that filiming so a sadistic pig like you can get off?
bobbya16 10 months ago
I like when the doors pop open after the rotor strikes the ground..
didnt he notice the reduced RPM, why continue to try and lift off.. should have lowered the collective completely?
jonnic2000 1 year ago
ahahahhahahahhaahahahaahahahaha good shit
robgravenor 1 year ago
How did you F that one up????
HappySCVResident 1 year ago
did he died? did the helicopter die?
71falconGTHO 1 year ago
Regarding repairs, I helped a new owner who purchased a rollover Rotorway. New skids, new landing gear, total disassemble and fix and paint bent/cracked frame, new main rotor blades, new main rotor shaft, new bolts and hardware, all new drive belts, new tail boom, new tail rotor, shaft and drive components. new windscreen, fiberglass repair, repaint and then re-assemble entire helicopter, track and balance new main and tail rotor system. Altogether about $30K in parts plus labor.
helocfi50 1 year ago
when ever low RPMS occur it follows lost of rotor authority then an induce dynamyc rollover happen (keep rpm to normal) if not posible procced with autorotation
stealhty1 2 years ago
dynamic rollover?
twunt2000 2 years ago
Yes, classic dynamic rollover, a textbook example. It also sounds like low rotor rpm contributed, but nevertheless, dynamic rollover.
XCraftllc 2 years ago 3
what happened??? and could dropping the collective have stopped it?
dopeypilot 2 years ago
@dopeypilot RPM dropped , probrably engine fail and yes
lucasguillen 1 year ago