@hedyejan shut up. she lives in FRANCE u dooosh bag. She is telling the truth. SHAME on you for closing ur eyes to the truth. Persepolis is in every way the truth about what happens and has happened in iran.
@MegaSHamed it's important for the iranians, it changed the way they lived. If there was a revolution in the usa it would be extremely important. Iran is obviously smaller and less relevant, and due to the politic issues it wasn't very relevant globally, but it's a country that people have preconceived ideas about, which is unfair, and this film helps change it. About afghanistan, yes it is important, but not as much as you, as an american would think. I'm european, and it isn't that relevant h.
@MegaSHamed it concerns europeans in the sense that most europeans wish to be informed about the rest of the world, in order not to settle for the preconceived ideas about foreigners. With iranians there are a lot of preconceived ideas concerning the religious fundamentalism, which is the matter of the revolution, so learning about it, makes us informed. Afghanistan is important 2, i'm not saying it isn't, but at least here in portugal, and we have troops there, it isn't thaat relevant
I watched Persepolis for Sociology class some months ago, and it gave me a different viewpoint from how I saw society, from my idea of suppression and restriction (as I am from another country). Today, I watched "For Neda" and everything from Persepolis came flashing back to my mind. I may not be in the right position to say comment about what is and isn't right or wrong, but I have hopes that someday, the thread that history has kept on spinning for too long will finally and completely be cut.
Human greed and selfishness has created hell for thousands of years.
The only way you can relate to "other" is if we know ourselves. Our true selves are different from the ego that is so ferociously promoted by the West today. As a result, ego demand superiority. "I am better. No! I am the best."
Our economies depend on our egos fed by our fears and desires. Our economies demand wars and destruction.
In the dominant religion of materialism, progress IS death and destruction.
That said. I believe America and Europe is living another kind of corruption, mor subtle, and because of that, less brutal. But dangerous in all sense. The power of banks
wow, i see that theses comments are extremely opinionated. i read a comment about jews and muslims- the point of her movie isn't that of communism or capitalism or any kind of religion- yes, they are conveyed, but for the simple purpose of trying to get past them and reveal the human condition. please don't turn this into a political forum, this movie is WAAAYYY past that.
she dont like the islamic state of iran because they didnt let her drink alcool, have sexual relation with whoever she wanted and do orgies in a party. I dont trust this lady. Even in the movie there is a part where she lies to guardians by saying a man was sexually harrassing her. I think she only want to serve her interest. You dont like the way its done in iran? you want to do wathever is against the religion? Then stay in the west. As simple.
Yes, she didn't like the islamic state because they restricted her. But it was more than drinking alcohol and having sexual relations. It was from restricting her from freedom of speech. You can't just look at the negative.
She was restricted from listening to her music, or wearing what she wanted to. She was also mad because her uncle died sticking up for freedom and still nothing was done.
No, it was all about the booze and how he she couldnt reveal herself all of that was tied up and labeled as freedom of speech. The main point was she didnt like the living there because she had allot of Western influence, punk music whatever ( not that its bad ) but she aint no true Iranian and she did forget her culture. I shouldnt be fucked over for telling it like it is. She wanted to have sex freely, she wanted to reveal herself, she wanted to be godless, she wanted to be judged. Go to hell.
wow you have such a nasty mouth. You're not understanding what im saying and all i can see is anger from you. we aren't gonna get anywhere. Believe what you want, and I will believe in Marjane Satrapi.
I'm not angry at all, all you're hoping to see is anger so you can expose it. I'm not telling you NOT to believe in her just mentioning to you what you want to block out and be biased of. But whatever. The day will come.
Just because you do it when you're angry doesnt mean I have a similar way of dealing with things like you, I officially end this retarded pointless conversation, stfu and go to hell.
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Hey, hey, I'm just stating a fact about this. If it doesn't matter that she slept with so many men that her vagina can take in a bmw and that she has to make up books to degrade a religion she hasn't even come close to exploring then you shouldn't be giving me this pep talk, save that for someone thats stupid. This is a whore thats ANTI Iranian, she should burn in hell, if she doesn't I'll be damned alright.
who are you to say that about someone you barely know? It's not very moral of you to be saying, "she should burn in hell". Look at your own actions before you criticize others.
Selfish is only when you want to get things for you, when you want yourself to benefit and dont care for others. I dont think you know the definition enough to use it, my words say the obvious, her words say shes a whore, and anti Iranian of course, you dont have to sugar coat everything. Sugar coating is lying.
You're the one that is being selfish because you're not accepting other ideas. I do not believe Percepolis is anti-Iranian. If you want to think that, fine. But you need to watch what you say. Learn to think broadly.
Its stupid, I am accepting it, who said accepting it has to result in me worshipping/praising/loving her? It is anti-Iranian, it criticizes the religion of Iran, the people of Iran, and THE WHOLE EAST. " Its not a fight btwn the west and the east, its the smart and the stupid " - Marjane Satrapi NY times, that clearly is bullshitting the entire East. She put herself out, she should be judged, its calling for attention. Now stfu.
You know what? You're proving nothing, if you want to sugar coat the facts that were so clear in her book and those interviews than go ahead, I cant keep you from being blinded by what the western world wants you to think. You can go ahead and divide the world in two, but when it comes down to common sense, she is anti Iranian and you are a dumbass for not realizing that. So stfu yourself.
But at least it makes more sense than you trying to sugar coat a true khaffir that put everything out to display. Ibrahim187 proved something, look at that shitface and tell me whats up.
Its simple, music is illegal in iran so she have to stick to those rules, like drugs are illegal in your countries. Or like they dont want to let hijab girls wear their hijab in some occidental countries. But wathever, I dont trust this girl. Imagine! a man was arrested by the police in her country because she lied and said he was sexually harrassing here. Iran want islamic rules, and she dont like that.
Maybe because I'm more direct and I like to get to the point and not sugar coat it for short stop fucks like yourself. Shes a whore, she should burn in hell my opinion. She does nothing to benefit for the Iranian republic and nothing for Islam, she speaks of being faithful to her religion and her country when she turns upside and completely changes for the west. She alters herself to seem like a rebel when actually just a Azerbaijani mutt trying to act punk and cool. Yes, Ibrahim did great.
@nazbites Ignorant. Iran has no political and philosophical thinkers like Descartes, Hobbes, Locke, Marx, nor a tradition of thought on the matter of state, religion and freedom. Compete with them, and then speañ.
@LAVB432 Shut the hell up. There were many persian poets, like Hafiz that were extremely influential on the world of literature and poetry. You're the fucking ignorant, you stupid prick.
@nazbites Well, in Argentina, we had Borges. But I´m not speaking about poets , I´m speaking about the thinkers of freedom: the authors of the federalist papers, La Boethie, Rousseau, Maurice Jolly, Engels, Trosky. All of them have a great debt with one principle: freedom of consciense and speech.
Where are these in Iran´s totalitariam regime? Explain to me. And who has argued that religion is an excellent basis for freedom, pluralism and innovation, against these trully genius?.
@LAVB432 Dude shut up. Read the hadith, it's self explanatory, they don't even need to have any rebuttals against retarded idiots like you who make insane arguments that have no causal relationship with the topic. This is not proper philosophy.
@LAVB432 When Islam was arising, Muslims were the minorities. They were beaten by Jews for even thinking about having another prophet and they were looked down upon by Christians for thinking of their god as a prophet. No one liked them. Everyone hates them. Everyone still does. I'm sure they wouldn't have a holy book that summarizes why they should be beaten. We're all already holding on for dear life and less criticism without spiritually indulging yourself.
@nazbites That story can be told by christians, about the roman empire, or Jews, about the egipcians or the htites. None spirituality justifies discrimination, abuse or bulllyng from believers. Spirtuality, a blessing we can enjoy of, can never mean censure or dogmatism. Here, in Argentina, we had the military that told the people that all the sacrifice was for a 'greater good' or for the 'national security'. It turned to be only corruption. An I´m sure that what Iran regime is today.Corruption
@LAVB432 But the fact of the matter is that Islam did not spiritually justify discrimination, abuse or bullying from believers, whatever ' from believers ' is supposed to convey. It doesn't matter what analogies you make, and how much Argentina and Iran screws up, you shouldn't be blaming a religion and the religions followers for it. That itself is an act of discrimination, hence; qualifying you to be a hypocrite.
@nazbites I do not blame religion, but Iran´s regime and those who support it. Or the use of religion when limits rights, like the freedom of speech or freedom of conscience.
@LAVB432 I totally agree with you for the very fact that using religion for limiting the rights and subordinate women doesn't have any justification. Nazbites is sensitive about particularly the doctrine of Islam and I respect it nevertheless I believe that the interpretation of Islam today does not exactly convey tolerance and equality. As a Turkish women, I don't believe in religious dogmas and I am glad that I was born in a secular country although I criticize my country in many aspects.
What a pity! Islam dinini be kadar biliyorsun ki "dogmalara" inanmiyorum diyorsun? Dinimizde dogma diye bir sey yoktur, böyle sey düsünmek dahi absürt. Bakis acin gercekten Avrupalilar gibi, inamayanin masallarina canak tutmak Türklügünden bir cok seyi götürüyor . Ayrica M. Kemal Atatürk'ü iyi okumani tavsiye ederim, özellikle emperyalist Ingilizler hakkindaki düsüncelerini. O, Türk kadinina medeniyeti getiren ama Islam dinini böyle asagilayici tutumlarinin karsisinda duran adam...
@MrGeretes 1) benim yazdigimdan hicbirsey anlamamissin 2) ben sadece Islam dinine dogmatik demedim, butun dinler dogmatiktir 3) Atam'i nasil okuyacagimi senden ogrenecek degilim 4) laik olmak emperyalizme canak tutmak degildir 5) Din kimsenin tekelinde de olmadigi gibi, dini istedigim gibi yasamak benim ozgurlugumdur, Ataturk'un de ogrettigi budur 6) Turk olmak onurlu yasamaktir, bilim ve aydinliga inanmaktir, herhangi bir dinin empoze ettige yoruma dayanarak degil 7) biz Iran gibi olmayacagiz
Hey confess, madam, sende Ingiliz hegemonyasinin bir parcasi olmusun. Yoksa "As a Turkish woman" diye bir cümle kurulmaz bu konu itibari ile. "Hatalarima" gelince: 1) doktora yapiyorum;foul 2) dogma insanlarin yarattigi bir hayaldir; foul 3) YES 4) dogru ama Great Britain laik degil ki:-))) YES 5) Luther's posting of his (new reforming) theses? NOOOOO 6) completely YES and finally 7) oraya dogru gidiyoruz malesef; TEK kurtulus Türk kimligini korumak ve cogalmak. Tschüß
@MrGeretes Bak arkadaşım sen hala beni anlamamışsın, benim yazdıklarımla verdiğin cevapları bir daha karşılaştır. Nedir bu saldırganlık onu da anlamadım. Yeryüzünde doktora yapan da tek sen değisin, karşındaki de doktora öğrencisi. Ama aradaki fark ben bilimin aydınlığından faydalanıyorum, seninkinden ise şüpheliyim.
@MrGeretes Kaldı ki Great Britain ile konuyu nasıl bağladın onu da anlamış değilim, doğrudur ben batının Atam'ın da işaret ettiği aydınlığına ve ilmine hayranım ve ülkemin de o aydınlığa ulaşmasını savunuyorum, Senin gibi kafatasçı ve Turancı bir kişilğin yaptığı doktoradan da şüpheliyim, o yüzden değerli zamanımı senin gibilere daha fazla cevap yazarak harcamak istemiyorum. Doktora çalışmalarında ve Türk kimliğini koruyarak çoğalma çalışmalarında başarılar dilerim:))))
They make musics illegal because they dont want it to become like occidental countries where passions and sex are the number one topic for most musics. you cant denie it. As for her right to talk, you have to know that speaking against islam in a musilm country is not the best thing to do. Like I wont go to a church in your country and speak against christianity. .
Your free to have your opinion and I am free to have my opinion.
In my opinion, she was standing for the freedom of speech. I agree that it was wrong for her to get a man arrested based on a lie. However, she also utilized that as a learning tool to show how wrong she was. In this way it is similar to the biography Maus.
By the way, in my country you are free to speak against christianity in a church.
@ibrahim187 Yes here in America if you speak against Christianize in a church, the Christian people in the church will not like you. However, that doesn't mean that if you say anti-Christian things, you are in danger. However if I go to an Middle Eastern country and say that I think Islam is a lie and Mohammad wasn't important, I put myself in danger. That is wrong, I should not have to worry about people trying to kill me because I have a different opinion from them.
@ibrahim187 Also I am a Jew. How would some people in Iran feel if a Jew said Islam is false and Muhammad was not a prophet? I bet I would be in danger. That is wrong, I shouldn't have to fear for my life because I said something about Islam.
@Volf99 I have a cousin who is atheist in lebanon, he always tell us how islam is false and how he is right. He always argue with my other cousin who is in hezbollah. No violence....and we are in middle east. we only argue
@ibrahim187 You don´t know what you are talking about. If you are going to say something on freedom or reason, you must understand the problems addressed by western writers like Descartes, Hobbes, Locke. They spoke against the 'political power' of religion to save freedom of consciensce from the Church, any church, being protestan or cathloic.
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Here uncle died for freedom? You cant really know that, after all, he was a communist. Occidentals hate communists more then that. She was a kid when he died, she couldnt understand what freedom meant for a communist (freedom= no religion). They say communist is everything but freedom.
in a world of facism, communism is the complete opposite. Communism means equality amongst all people. And it doesn't necessarily mean no religion. The Marxist-Leninist interpretation takes a no religion course. However, some communist groups are religious, especially Christian.
I believe he died for freedom, even if its for the freedom to be a communist. However, that's my opinion and interpretation. I don't think there is a clear-cut right or wrong about this.
It should not be a surprise that one human being defends another. Do you believe in a just God? If Allah exists, He is not so petty and childish that He will punish and torture people simply for not believing in Him. That kind of arrogance and evil is sadly reserved for mankind. Being a khafir does not make one any better or worse than any other person. What you do is more important than what you believe. Who has taught you to hate people you do not know? How will you ever find peace?
I noticed that too, she wasn't any kind of hero; she even portrayed herself spiraling out of control, and some of the changes into and out of depression were portrayed really rapidly. I wouldn't ask that an artist be a healthy role-model type, but some of the character's emotional ups and downs seem a bit arbitrary. I guess it's not easy to be impartial while writing your autobiography.
Amen to that. I cannot wait when Iran is free from the islamo-fascist regime and when Iran finally sticks its nose out of Israeli affairs and we can officially be friends again. Azadi/Shalom!
I am from England and consequently find it hard sometimes to relate to the hardship that many experience in the world (as much as i try to). I felt huge amounts of empathy in imagining this happening to me and my family. It fantastically demonstrates that were no different - just humans wanting to survive; i think the humor was useful in exposing this. Such a fundamental idea, yet so complex in the world.
I'm going to try to reason with you as I try to reason with everyone.
Marjane is trying to convey a message and she wants to portray certain things in a certain way. Black and White can create a sense of despair but it can also convey a sense of simpleness and having every reduced to its' basics.
But I think you're a troll and just very ignorant.
u call that thinking? 1 comment, & u're the insulting troll. You're ignorant of economic reasons for avoiding color print. Plus the artwork is rushed and childish like southpark stick figures.
what, you don't remember colors? i bought the book and have a terrible time aesthetically, just cant get into black n white. its like a visual defect or disability. if you saw no colors you'd go to the eye doctor pronto. they do it for economical reasons, color costs too much but it never stopped Herge
watching the first 5 minutes of this whore's cartoon film, I knew this bitch was a bitter old Qajar.
They have a fantasy of reinstating their pathetic dynasty by blaming everything on the Pahlavis...The Pahlavis brought Iran out of the darkness cast by Qajar retards who signed away half the country to the Russians. Interesting that the French mad this pathetic movie....
I assure each and one of you that reading and watching Persepolis by Marjane Satrapi will be changing our views on how we feel about Iran. I mean, going to war against Iran will make the situation a whole lot worse for ourselves and others as well.
The racists want to use this film against the Persians but the Persian pride has no equal and Satrapi explain them that she will never forget his origin
this film is objective and not usefull for dirty racists, sorry !
ya, if one goes into the philosophy of the movie of 300 then that is the movie with dirty racism, people with low logic can not see it with their naked eye.
300 is a good entertainment movie, I liked it. Though the director said that it is not a historical movie, I agree when we make films about historical events they should be respected. I understand the iranian poin of view of 300
I just finished it yesterday (the combined volume) and that book is amazing. She showed that you can love your country, but still have your doubts about its government without being a traitor.
she's just a strong women who's way of thinking is just right. I liked what she said, that it is about time that the human being would be in the centre of interest, especially when we look at such an developed world which is still bombing and killing and destroying. and the root of it is simply: hate. but when we put down our hate we may realize that everybody is a human and worthy to be loved and respected
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it is sad to say people like your uncle was the problem in iran.they where communist movment that shah was against.shame on you and people like your family whome made all this happen.please shout the F up.now trying to cash in on this...poor F'ing you.i wish i had not seen this movie.
"I found the Presepolis immensely moving with depths of nuance and wisdom that one might never expect to find in a comic book. Its a powerful, mysterious, enchanting story that manages to reflect a great swath of Iranian contemporary history within the sensitive, intimate tale of a young girls coming-of-age. I didnt want it to end!"
Those who commented below that as Iranians they're surprised to see a Frnech Movie about Iran should watch this video another time more carefully: All this (wonderful) movie tries to do is showing non-Iranians that Iranians are not different from them; Iranians are humans, have their hope, might fall in love, etc. That's why the movie is B/W and locations are hazy: It's Tehran, but it can be anywhere. So, why it shouldn't be in French/English?... Marjane has already answered that quite well.
Persepolis is the Greek name for the ancient cultural capital of the Persian Empire, which is located in Southern Iran. It's also the name that is more known by the West. But, in Persian, it's called Takht-e Jamshid (Translation: Throne of Jamshid). Basically, in Greek, the word "Perse" means Persian, and the word "polis" means city - Persian City. Takht-e Jamshid (Persepolis) is a historical site where you can see ruins from many palaces that were built during the Persian Empire.
Jamshid is a mythological figure that is a part of the Iranian culture/tradition and is also related to the Zoroastrian culture. Zoroastrianism is the purest religion of Iran and is believed to be more than 3000 years old. In tradition & folklore, Jamshid is described to be the 4th King (Shah) of the world. He is mentioned in the book, Shahname, written by the legendary Persian poet Ferdowsi. Jamshid is also a common Persian male name. It's actually a popular Zoroastrian name.
i see thatnks bro, by the way Zoroastrianisdm or Zartushti is a religion and not a mythology right, because there r lots of ppl and a movie that stated it as a belief and myth
I still have much love for the Greeks. The Greeks never tried to destroy our culture & identity as the Arabs tried to do and are still trying to do. That's the main reason Iranians hate Arabs. If you visit Persepolis (Takht-e Jamshid), you'll see that there are holes in some statues that were in easy reach. That's because the Arabs tried to literally erase the faces of the statues, exactly like they are currently trying to erase the Persian history by distorting facts about us.
They spek french because Marjane Satrapi lives in France and this is a French animated movie. It would be hard to do it in Persian with only one person in the workforce knowing it.
There are numerous excellent Iranian film-makers who could have helped. To an Iranian seeing this movie, it seems so unreal when an Iranian family livng in Iran speaks French. I suppose this is not aimed at Iranian audience, so it does not matter. However, it would be Iranians who can relate to this story most.
The book Persepolis has been banned from Iran because of its content. There's a version of it translated into Persian, but it's more underground. If the government forbids the book, do you really think they're going to let the people see the movie?
Iranians/Persians were never dark, we are an ancient Aryan nation, however even before Aryan migration Persians had light skin and haircolor other than the typical Asian black hair, example: the god of Zartushti(Zarusthra/Zoroastrianism) Ahura Mazda (he had white skin and red hair, he kind of looked like Jesus, look him up on google)
well, watched it today for the first time and i must say it's absolutely genius.With no doubt this is story of many of us. well done marnjane and of course Vincent.
I'm not a religious person i don't even pray much & i know that it is wrong & i am trying to change that. but lets say that there is no god as u say & you're free to do every thing u want. many things that u will do will harm you & people around u. like sex without marriage, drinking, have no faith it is all being evil"i drink i smoke in fact i am a dj"but i know that many things i do is wrong and that there is god i feel that being good to people and your self having peace is being religious
yo man, try to pray and feel good and do what god says, being good and try to feel that there is only on god. then talk to him ask him of one thing have faith and if god did not help you, you are free to be free, yet still i know it is wrong to be atheist
I LOVED Persepolis. I spent 6 months working in Iran, and joined my Iranian colleagues doing all those things, dancing in sitting rooms, wearing the garb, a parallel life behind closed doors. My Iranian boyfriend and I were followed to the desert by the police, they even caught up with me on horseback, galloping across a field, and told me to 'fix my scarf'! The film brought all these everyday things back. And the animation... wow. Thanks to Marjane Satrapi, what a winner!
Of course anti-art. When all you do is about politics, and political proselitism to get people ignorant about the real situation to believe what is presented to them is just a sincere perspective, rather than a disgusting display of a political agenda, then where on earth do you leave the art?
what an idiot person you are germanicus 24!!! you want to keep women in condition of 1400 years ago with the fuck-up profet mohammad's (a bloodthirsty peofile who started as many wars as he could during his so called profecy and got married to 9 years old girl at the age of 60, but i'm sure that wouldn't bother you of course) attitudes towards women and called it "modesty???!!! man, get a life!
"That is anti-Islamic propaganda Rushdie style, and a huge offense to the most sacred values of the Iranian society."
Yes, she managed to portray fanatic morons like you very well, so brainwashed by their ideology that they are not able to understand art anymore: you view novels, paintings, movies only in very narrow political categories.
Btw, she and her family and friends are Iranians, so much for "sacred values of the Iranian people" religion than is just part of politics, obviously.
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No. The topic of religion is NOT avoided. Satrapi questions the Islamic concept of liberation through the modesty of clothes, and she portrays it as an exclusivity only for women.
Satrapi portrays the martyrs of Iran as brainwashed youth over getting 72 virgins in heaven. That is anti-Islamic propaganda Rushdie style, and a huge offense to the most sacred values of the Iranian society.
Its sad how you prefer a movie to teach you what you are so lazy to see for yourself.
Why are people thumbing down germanicus24. He's only expressing his opinion in a non offensive way. You may disagree with his opinion, but his post is not offensive.
germanicus: obviously you have never lived in the middle east. If you had, you would know that modest dress is required ONLY in women. There are no modesty laws for men. I lived for two years in Riyadh and I saw first hand with my own eyes the way women are treated there. I am not trying to brainwash anyone. It's a fact.
"You have never lived in" is not a valid argument. Because I havent lived in the US George Bush's word is supposed to have any value on US policies?
So what if you lived in Riyadh. Saudia is an anti Islamic monarchist dictatorship financed by the pockets of Americans, and Iran is explicitly against it. There are modesty laws for both men and women there, and unlike in Saudia, women in Iran succeed to vast heights in the society.
So no, it is not a fact, and your claim makes it more perturbing.
You clearly havent because you assume the women's situation in Iran is like the one sponsored by American tax payers in Saudi Arabia. But still its not even a valid argument.
Can you people stop judging things from what others tell you. Im not telling you believe in ME, but for God's sake, dont believe in a movie either, or in any third person accounts. Why cant you have critical thinking and perceive through own senses...
You are correct that Iran is not the same country as Saudia Arabia. They do, however, hold very similar values in terms of a woman's place in society. BTW, the US has absolutely no ability to manipulate the cultural norms of that region of the world. The extremely religious sects in the middle east would never allow it
Really, so it is also Iran's fault that once a minority, the Talibans and their "cultural norms", now rule Afghanistan and are spreading around the world, together with Al Qaeda, Sunni Jihadism, and Jundallah army? Again, thank you American tax payers for that.
Of course Iranians and Saudis have similar values: They are Muslims...
If what you are implying is that Muslims are innate oppressors of women, then your issue is with Islam, just as it is of Satrapi, no matter how much she denies it.
It is not Islamic to oppress women. That is, oppressing women is not part of the religion OF Islam. The oppression of women in middle eastern countries is a separate cultural issue unrelated to the Koran.
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SHAME on you , you insult your country , culture in order to live in UNITED-states .
hedyejan 1 year ago
@hedyejan you mean paris -_-
pimp0573 10 months ago
@hedyejan shut up. she lives in FRANCE u dooosh bag. She is telling the truth. SHAME on you for closing ur eyes to the truth. Persepolis is in every way the truth about what happens and has happened in iran.
Yasii1 10 months ago
@hedyejan have you even taken the time to actually read perseplis??? where does she actually bad mouth iran?
TheLonghairraven 9 months ago
@hedyejan OH SHUT UP.
peacelovejemi2 8 months ago
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MegaSHamed 1 year ago
@MegaSHamed She did make something huge and important. There was a revolution in iran and she made a cartoon about it.
blugirl4 1 year ago
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MegaSHamed 1 year ago
@MegaSHamed it's important for the iranians, it changed the way they lived. If there was a revolution in the usa it would be extremely important. Iran is obviously smaller and less relevant, and due to the politic issues it wasn't very relevant globally, but it's a country that people have preconceived ideas about, which is unfair, and this film helps change it. About afghanistan, yes it is important, but not as much as you, as an american would think. I'm european, and it isn't that relevant h.
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@MegaSHamed it concerns europeans in the sense that most europeans wish to be informed about the rest of the world, in order not to settle for the preconceived ideas about foreigners. With iranians there are a lot of preconceived ideas concerning the religious fundamentalism, which is the matter of the revolution, so learning about it, makes us informed. Afghanistan is important 2, i'm not saying it isn't, but at least here in portugal, and we have troops there, it isn't thaat relevant
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MegaSHamed 1 year ago
I watched Persepolis for Sociology class some months ago, and it gave me a different viewpoint from how I saw society, from my idea of suppression and restriction (as I am from another country). Today, I watched "For Neda" and everything from Persepolis came flashing back to my mind. I may not be in the right position to say comment about what is and isn't right or wrong, but I have hopes that someday, the thread that history has kept on spinning for too long will finally and completely be cut.
AllyGatorclips 1 year ago 2
Human greed and selfishness has created hell for thousands of years.
The only way you can relate to "other" is if we know ourselves. Our true selves are different from the ego that is so ferociously promoted by the West today. As a result, ego demand superiority. "I am better. No! I am the best."
Our economies depend on our egos fed by our fears and desires. Our economies demand wars and destruction.
In the dominant religion of materialism, progress IS death and destruction.
ManACanadian 1 year ago
That said. I believe America and Europe is living another kind of corruption, mor subtle, and because of that, less brutal. But dangerous in all sense. The power of banks
LAVB432 1 year ago
wow, i see that theses comments are extremely opinionated. i read a comment about jews and muslims- the point of her movie isn't that of communism or capitalism or any kind of religion- yes, they are conveyed, but for the simple purpose of trying to get past them and reveal the human condition. please don't turn this into a political forum, this movie is WAAAYYY past that.
btapianunez 1 year ago
I just read the book last week. Amazing, funny, moving, and eye-opening. She's great. Looking forwards to see the movie!
larsodal 2 years ago 3
It opened my mind plenty. I loved it.
sameil 2 years ago 17
she dont like the islamic state of iran because they didnt let her drink alcool, have sexual relation with whoever she wanted and do orgies in a party. I dont trust this lady. Even in the movie there is a part where she lies to guardians by saying a man was sexually harrassing her. I think she only want to serve her interest. You dont like the way its done in iran? you want to do wathever is against the religion? Then stay in the west. As simple.
ibrahim187 2 years ago
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sammem1 2 years ago
Yes, she didn't like the islamic state because they restricted her. But it was more than drinking alcohol and having sexual relations. It was from restricting her from freedom of speech. You can't just look at the negative.
She was restricted from listening to her music, or wearing what she wanted to. She was also mad because her uncle died sticking up for freedom and still nothing was done.
sammem1 2 years ago 5
No, it was all about the booze and how he she couldnt reveal herself all of that was tied up and labeled as freedom of speech. The main point was she didnt like the living there because she had allot of Western influence, punk music whatever ( not that its bad ) but she aint no true Iranian and she did forget her culture. I shouldnt be fucked over for telling it like it is. She wanted to have sex freely, she wanted to reveal herself, she wanted to be godless, she wanted to be judged. Go to hell.
nazbites 2 years ago
wow you have such a nasty mouth. You're not understanding what im saying and all i can see is anger from you. we aren't gonna get anywhere. Believe what you want, and I will believe in Marjane Satrapi.
sammem1 2 years ago 3
I'm not angry at all, all you're hoping to see is anger so you can expose it. I'm not telling you NOT to believe in her just mentioning to you what you want to block out and be biased of. But whatever. The day will come.
nazbites 2 years ago
so you wouldn't call telling me to "stfu" and to "go to hell" not angry? hmm, interesting.
sammem1 2 years ago 3
Just because you do it when you're angry doesnt mean I have a similar way of dealing with things like you, I officially end this retarded pointless conversation, stfu and go to hell.
nazbites 2 years ago
hehe. ok
sammem1 2 years ago
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Hey, hey, I'm just stating a fact about this. If it doesn't matter that she slept with so many men that her vagina can take in a bmw and that she has to make up books to degrade a religion she hasn't even come close to exploring then you shouldn't be giving me this pep talk, save that for someone thats stupid. This is a whore thats ANTI Iranian, she should burn in hell, if she doesn't I'll be damned alright.
nazbites 2 years ago
who are you to say that about someone you barely know? It's not very moral of you to be saying, "she should burn in hell". Look at your own actions before you criticize others.
sammem1 2 years ago
Her book says enough, words can tell more than you give it credit for, she should burn in hell, its my opinion, khaffirs should serve time in hell.
nazbites 2 years ago
well that's your opinion. You need to look at your own words. "words can tell more than you give it credit for". Stop thinking so selfishly.
sammem1 2 years ago
Selfish is only when you want to get things for you, when you want yourself to benefit and dont care for others. I dont think you know the definition enough to use it, my words say the obvious, her words say shes a whore, and anti Iranian of course, you dont have to sugar coat everything. Sugar coating is lying.
nazbites 2 years ago
You're the one that is being selfish because you're not accepting other ideas. I do not believe Percepolis is anti-Iranian. If you want to think that, fine. But you need to watch what you say. Learn to think broadly.
sammem1 2 years ago
Its stupid, I am accepting it, who said accepting it has to result in me worshipping/praising/loving her? It is anti-Iranian, it criticizes the religion of Iran, the people of Iran, and THE WHOLE EAST. " Its not a fight btwn the west and the east, its the smart and the stupid " - Marjane Satrapi NY times, that clearly is bullshitting the entire East. She put herself out, she should be judged, its calling for attention. Now stfu.
nazbites 2 years ago
hold on a second. You have no right to talk to me like that. You should STFU! You don't realize the amount of people who suffer.
You're so narrow minded you're not even worth arguing with. I hope someday you realize how stupid you are.
sammem1 2 years ago
You know what? You're proving nothing, if you want to sugar coat the facts that were so clear in her book and those interviews than go ahead, I cant keep you from being blinded by what the western world wants you to think. You can go ahead and divide the world in two, but when it comes down to common sense, she is anti Iranian and you are a dumbass for not realizing that. So stfu yourself.
nazbites 2 years ago
haha w/e. newsflash buddy, your not proving anything either.
sammem1 2 years ago 2
But at least it makes more sense than you trying to sugar coat a true khaffir that put everything out to display. Ibrahim187 proved something, look at that shitface and tell me whats up.
nazbites 2 years ago
I disagree with Ibrahim187. That's whats up.
sammem1 2 years ago
Its simple, music is illegal in iran so she have to stick to those rules, like drugs are illegal in your countries. Or like they dont want to let hijab girls wear their hijab in some occidental countries. But wathever, I dont trust this girl. Imagine! a man was arrested by the police in her country because she lied and said he was sexually harrassing here. Iran want islamic rules, and she dont like that.
ibrahim187 2 years ago
But I must agree. Ibrahim187 puts up an argument a hell of a lot better than u.
sammem1 2 years ago
Maybe because I'm more direct and I like to get to the point and not sugar coat it for short stop fucks like yourself. Shes a whore, she should burn in hell my opinion. She does nothing to benefit for the Iranian republic and nothing for Islam, she speaks of being faithful to her religion and her country when she turns upside and completely changes for the west. She alters herself to seem like a rebel when actually just a Azerbaijani mutt trying to act punk and cool. Yes, Ibrahim did great.
nazbites 2 years ago
@nazbites Ignorant. Iran has no political and philosophical thinkers like Descartes, Hobbes, Locke, Marx, nor a tradition of thought on the matter of state, religion and freedom. Compete with them, and then speañ.
Ignorant
LAVB432 1 year ago
@LAVB432 Shut the hell up. There were many persian poets, like Hafiz that were extremely influential on the world of literature and poetry. You're the fucking ignorant, you stupid prick.
nazbites 1 year ago
@nazbites Well, in Argentina, we had Borges. But I´m not speaking about poets , I´m speaking about the thinkers of freedom: the authors of the federalist papers, La Boethie, Rousseau, Maurice Jolly, Engels, Trosky. All of them have a great debt with one principle: freedom of consciense and speech.
Where are these in Iran´s totalitariam regime? Explain to me. And who has argued that religion is an excellent basis for freedom, pluralism and innovation, against these trully genius?.
LAVB432 1 year ago
@LAVB432 Dude shut up. Read the hadith, it's self explanatory, they don't even need to have any rebuttals against retarded idiots like you who make insane arguments that have no causal relationship with the topic. This is not proper philosophy.
nazbites 1 year ago
Sure. Im sure it explains how to keep justifing the killing of minorities
LAVB432 1 year ago
@LAVB432 When Islam was arising, Muslims were the minorities. They were beaten by Jews for even thinking about having another prophet and they were looked down upon by Christians for thinking of their god as a prophet. No one liked them. Everyone hates them. Everyone still does. I'm sure they wouldn't have a holy book that summarizes why they should be beaten. We're all already holding on for dear life and less criticism without spiritually indulging yourself.
nazbites 1 year ago
@nazbites That story can be told by christians, about the roman empire, or Jews, about the egipcians or the htites. None spirituality justifies discrimination, abuse or bulllyng from believers. Spirtuality, a blessing we can enjoy of, can never mean censure or dogmatism. Here, in Argentina, we had the military that told the people that all the sacrifice was for a 'greater good' or for the 'national security'. It turned to be only corruption. An I´m sure that what Iran regime is today.Corruption
LAVB432 1 year ago
@LAVB432 But the fact of the matter is that Islam did not spiritually justify discrimination, abuse or bullying from believers, whatever ' from believers ' is supposed to convey. It doesn't matter what analogies you make, and how much Argentina and Iran screws up, you shouldn't be blaming a religion and the religions followers for it. That itself is an act of discrimination, hence; qualifying you to be a hypocrite.
nazbites 1 year ago
@nazbites I do not blame religion, but Iran´s regime and those who support it. Or the use of religion when limits rights, like the freedom of speech or freedom of conscience.
LAVB432 1 year ago
@LAVB432 I totally agree with you for the very fact that using religion for limiting the rights and subordinate women doesn't have any justification. Nazbites is sensitive about particularly the doctrine of Islam and I respect it nevertheless I believe that the interpretation of Islam today does not exactly convey tolerance and equality. As a Turkish women, I don't believe in religious dogmas and I am glad that I was born in a secular country although I criticize my country in many aspects.
zeynep1976 1 year ago
@zeynep1976
What a pity! Islam dinini be kadar biliyorsun ki "dogmalara" inanmiyorum diyorsun? Dinimizde dogma diye bir sey yoktur, böyle sey düsünmek dahi absürt. Bakis acin gercekten Avrupalilar gibi, inamayanin masallarina canak tutmak Türklügünden bir cok seyi götürüyor . Ayrica M. Kemal Atatürk'ü iyi okumani tavsiye ederim, özellikle emperyalist Ingilizler hakkindaki düsüncelerini. O, Türk kadinina medeniyeti getiren ama Islam dinini böyle asagilayici tutumlarinin karsisinda duran adam...
MrGeretes 1 year ago
@MrGeretes 1) benim yazdigimdan hicbirsey anlamamissin 2) ben sadece Islam dinine dogmatik demedim, butun dinler dogmatiktir 3) Atam'i nasil okuyacagimi senden ogrenecek degilim 4) laik olmak emperyalizme canak tutmak degildir 5) Din kimsenin tekelinde de olmadigi gibi, dini istedigim gibi yasamak benim ozgurlugumdur, Ataturk'un de ogrettigi budur 6) Turk olmak onurlu yasamaktir, bilim ve aydinliga inanmaktir, herhangi bir dinin empoze ettige yoruma dayanarak degil 7) biz Iran gibi olmayacagiz
zeynep1976 1 year ago
@zeynep1976
Hey confess, madam, sende Ingiliz hegemonyasinin bir parcasi olmusun. Yoksa "As a Turkish woman" diye bir cümle kurulmaz bu konu itibari ile. "Hatalarima" gelince: 1) doktora yapiyorum;foul 2) dogma insanlarin yarattigi bir hayaldir; foul 3) YES 4) dogru ama Great Britain laik degil ki:-))) YES 5) Luther's posting of his (new reforming) theses? NOOOOO 6) completely YES and finally 7) oraya dogru gidiyoruz malesef; TEK kurtulus Türk kimligini korumak ve cogalmak. Tschüß
MrGeretes 1 year ago
@MrGeretes Bak arkadaşım sen hala beni anlamamışsın, benim yazdıklarımla verdiğin cevapları bir daha karşılaştır. Nedir bu saldırganlık onu da anlamadım. Yeryüzünde doktora yapan da tek sen değisin, karşındaki de doktora öğrencisi. Ama aradaki fark ben bilimin aydınlığından faydalanıyorum, seninkinden ise şüpheliyim.
zeynep1976 1 year ago
@MrGeretes Kaldı ki Great Britain ile konuyu nasıl bağladın onu da anlamış değilim, doğrudur ben batının Atam'ın da işaret ettiği aydınlığına ve ilmine hayranım ve ülkemin de o aydınlığa ulaşmasını savunuyorum, Senin gibi kafatasçı ve Turancı bir kişilğin yaptığı doktoradan da şüpheliyim, o yüzden değerli zamanımı senin gibilere daha fazla cevap yazarak harcamak istemiyorum. Doktora çalışmalarında ve Türk kimliğini koruyarak çoğalma çalışmalarında başarılar dilerim:))))
zeynep1976 1 year ago
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nazbites 1 year ago
They make musics illegal because they dont want it to become like occidental countries where passions and sex are the number one topic for most musics. you cant denie it. As for her right to talk, you have to know that speaking against islam in a musilm country is not the best thing to do. Like I wont go to a church in your country and speak against christianity. .
ibrahim187 2 years ago
Your free to have your opinion and I am free to have my opinion.
In my opinion, she was standing for the freedom of speech. I agree that it was wrong for her to get a man arrested based on a lie. However, she also utilized that as a learning tool to show how wrong she was. In this way it is similar to the biography Maus.
By the way, in my country you are free to speak against christianity in a church.
sammem1 2 years ago 3
@ibrahim187 Yes here in America if you speak against Christianize in a church, the Christian people in the church will not like you. However, that doesn't mean that if you say anti-Christian things, you are in danger. However if I go to an Middle Eastern country and say that I think Islam is a lie and Mohammad wasn't important, I put myself in danger. That is wrong, I should not have to worry about people trying to kill me because I have a different opinion from them.
Volf99 1 year ago
@Volf99 Agreed. Although, in some parts of America is pretty the same as it is in Iran (Utah)
LAVB432 1 year ago
@ibrahim187 Also I am a Jew. How would some people in Iran feel if a Jew said Islam is false and Muhammad was not a prophet? I bet I would be in danger. That is wrong, I shouldn't have to fear for my life because I said something about Islam.
Volf99 1 year ago
@Volf99 If I go to israeli settlers where everybody is religious in a place in israel and say something against jews, Im sure im gonna be shot
ibrahim187 1 year ago
@Volf99 I have a cousin who is atheist in lebanon, he always tell us how islam is false and how he is right. He always argue with my other cousin who is in hezbollah. No violence....and we are in middle east. we only argue
ibrahim187 1 year ago
@Volf99 Well in Israel, if u are not a jew, you cannot marry. So... both countries have to make some improvements.
LAVB432 1 year ago
@ibrahim187 You don´t know what you are talking about. If you are going to say something on freedom or reason, you must understand the problems addressed by western writers like Descartes, Hobbes, Locke. They spoke against the 'political power' of religion to save freedom of consciensce from the Church, any church, being protestan or cathloic.
LAVB432 1 year ago
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Here uncle died for freedom? You cant really know that, after all, he was a communist. Occidentals hate communists more then that. She was a kid when he died, she couldnt understand what freedom meant for a communist (freedom= no religion). They say communist is everything but freedom.
ibrahim187 2 years ago
in a world of facism, communism is the complete opposite. Communism means equality amongst all people. And it doesn't necessarily mean no religion. The Marxist-Leninist interpretation takes a no religion course. However, some communist groups are religious, especially Christian.
I believe he died for freedom, even if its for the freedom to be a communist. However, that's my opinion and interpretation. I don't think there is a clear-cut right or wrong about this.
sammem1 2 years ago 12
@sammem1 Communism is fascism by the masses. Leave me alone
hotrodharry11 8 months ago
Wtf, just stfu I dont care what a super khaffir has to say. You are a khaffir, she is a khaffir, khaffir defends khaffir, no big surprise.
nazbites 2 years ago
It should not be a surprise that one human being defends another. Do you believe in a just God? If Allah exists, He is not so petty and childish that He will punish and torture people simply for not believing in Him. That kind of arrogance and evil is sadly reserved for mankind. Being a khafir does not make one any better or worse than any other person. What you do is more important than what you believe. Who has taught you to hate people you do not know? How will you ever find peace?
obamalogical 2 years ago 2
@obamalogical clap clap clap clap clap clap clap. Excellent comment
LAVB432 1 year ago
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I read her book, and it was good but she was constantly criticizing and being stupid throughout the whole book.
nazbites 2 years ago
I noticed that too, she wasn't any kind of hero; she even portrayed herself spiraling out of control, and some of the changes into and out of depression were portrayed really rapidly. I wouldn't ask that an artist be a healthy role-model type, but some of the character's emotional ups and downs seem a bit arbitrary. I guess it's not easy to be impartial while writing your autobiography.
badmuthahubbard 2 years ago
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stupid movie
barani17 2 years ago
stupid comment. you just said that to get attention.
shayaan2354 2 years ago
I dont need any attention. that is really stupid.I was in Iran for 22 years and I know what I am saying.
masood9531 2 years ago
not you! some guy who called the movie stupid. srry about a misunderstanding
shayaan2354 2 years ago
Watched this for a history course on iran...wow...it was so educational and totally helpful...plus what an amazing movie...MERCI MARJANE!
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LaTaleAeria 2 years ago
I just finished watching Persepolis, wow. It's incredibly good.
ehhhhhhhhhh 2 years ago 2
GOD BLESS FREE IRAN...FREE FROM ISLAMIC DICTATORS...IRANIAN SUPPORT ISRAEL...from: "the children of BABAK XORAMDIN"
marckfa 2 years ago
Amen to that. I cannot wait when Iran is free from the islamo-fascist regime and when Iran finally sticks its nose out of Israeli affairs and we can officially be friends again. Azadi/Shalom!
cheapnonsmoker 2 years ago
I was surprised when I found out Miss Satrapi spoke English so well.
Kimcee4younme 2 years ago
I am from England and consequently find it hard sometimes to relate to the hardship that many experience in the world (as much as i try to). I felt huge amounts of empathy in imagining this happening to me and my family. It fantastically demonstrates that were no different - just humans wanting to survive; i think the humor was useful in exposing this. Such a fundamental idea, yet so complex in the world.
Natashadoingit 2 years ago 15
why are the books in black & white? even tintin's in color
geogodley 2 years ago
I'm going to try to reason with you as I try to reason with everyone.
Marjane is trying to convey a message and she wants to portray certain things in a certain way. Black and White can create a sense of despair but it can also convey a sense of simpleness and having every reduced to its' basics.
But I think you're a troll and just very ignorant.
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geogodley 2 years ago
u call that thinking? 1 comment, & u're the insulting troll. You're ignorant of economic reasons for avoiding color print. Plus the artwork is rushed and childish like southpark stick figures.
geogodley 2 years ago
its black and white because its her memory
gerryono 2 years ago
what, you don't remember colors? i bought the book and have a terrible time aesthetically, just cant get into black n white. its like a visual defect or disability. if you saw no colors you'd go to the eye doctor pronto. they do it for economical reasons, color costs too much but it never stopped Herge
geogodley 2 years ago
precioso comic.....
maxxsimo 2 years ago
this was an awesome movie.....very very touching.
nagee76 2 years ago 5
i read the book, and she looks exactly like in the drawings its amazing, i love her she is truly a hero.
0123mazuma 2 years ago 3
I love her :(
orvgg 2 years ago
Such a good book!
guitarmysoldier 2 years ago
Marjan you did a nice movie...wasn't against Iranian and truly was talking about the facts that has been occurred in Iran...Good Job...
metofski 2 years ago 3
I wipe my own ass.
BoobTubeTV 2 years ago
I got to hear her speak today--she's really an interesting person, and talented as well.
RandomPerson8908 2 years ago 2
stfu u DontBelieveJewsNews some retarded New Nazi you are.
b0bwhyb3n 2 years ago
agreed but its neo nazi not new.
xplay108 2 years ago
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watching the first 5 minutes of this whore's cartoon film, I knew this bitch was a bitter old Qajar.
They have a fantasy of reinstating their pathetic dynasty by blaming everything on the Pahlavis...The Pahlavis brought Iran out of the darkness cast by Qajar retards who signed away half the country to the Russians. Interesting that the French mad this pathetic movie....
DontBelieveJewsNews 2 years ago
what the fuck are you talking about ? Forget all your prejudice for once in a while..you obviously did not quite get her message accross
Milkiyih 2 years ago 3
ive enjoyed reading this book alot
sharkerftw 3 years ago 4
I assure each and one of you that reading and watching Persepolis by Marjane Satrapi will be changing our views on how we feel about Iran. I mean, going to war against Iran will make the situation a whole lot worse for ourselves and others as well.
yahooman2009 3 years ago 7
@yahooman2009 excellent comment
LAVB432 1 year ago
why cant we all just get along dammit.. were all fuckin human
cautionblue22 3 years ago 7
The racists want to use this film against the Persians but the Persian pride has no equal and Satrapi explain them that she will never forget his origin
this film is objective and not usefull for dirty racists, sorry !
claybe 3 years ago 2
ya, if one goes into the philosophy of the movie of 300 then that is the movie with dirty racism, people with low logic can not see it with their naked eye.
yashil17 3 years ago 2
300 is a good entertainment movie, I liked it. Though the director said that it is not a historical movie, I agree when we make films about historical events they should be respected. I understand the iranian poin of view of 300
soulfox619 2 years ago
I just finished it yesterday (the combined volume) and that book is amazing. She showed that you can love your country, but still have your doubts about its government without being a traitor.
Sonjay718 3 years ago 3
she's just a strong women who's way of thinking is just right. I liked what she said, that it is about time that the human being would be in the centre of interest, especially when we look at such an developed world which is still bombing and killing and destroying. and the root of it is simply: hate. but when we put down our hate we may realize that everybody is a human and worthy to be loved and respected
tinazo85 3 years ago 4
Persepolis was an amazing movie!!!
mangokiwiorange 3 years ago
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it is sad to say people like your uncle was the problem in iran.they where communist movment that shah was against.shame on you and people like your family whome made all this happen.please shout the F up.now trying to cash in on this...poor F'ing you.i wish i had not seen this movie.
grabngoma 3 years ago
To the user grabngoma: FU CK YOU, GO TO HELL PIECE OF HORSE SHIT
MARJANE SATRAPI IS THE GREATEST PERSON IN THE WORLD we love you marji!!!
slammercal 3 years ago
slammercal,all i have to say to you is GO BUSH>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
grabngoma 3 years ago
Sure, her uncle was a family member and an idealist, but how DARE she give a sympathetic account of a communist?!
Also, memoirs = cashing in on tragedy. ALWAYS! ALWAYS!!!
(This is where I point out that I'm being sarcastic because the internet is insane.)
DeenMoriarty 3 years ago 2
"I found the Presepolis immensely moving with depths of nuance and wisdom that one might never expect to find in a comic book. Its a powerful, mysterious, enchanting story that manages to reflect a great swath of Iranian contemporary history within the sensitive, intimate tale of a young girls coming-of-age. I didnt want it to end!"
mike0a 3 years ago
She remind me of Mafalda
ERupolo 3 years ago
Here is what really happened: tinyurl(dot)com/5ebcjz
Google: "A Century Of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order"
PersiaMyLove 3 years ago
and i would add watch zeitgeistmovie . com and youll get the truth ;)
ragnarush 3 years ago
Those who commented below that as Iranians they're surprised to see a Frnech Movie about Iran should watch this video another time more carefully: All this (wonderful) movie tries to do is showing non-Iranians that Iranians are not different from them; Iranians are humans, have their hope, might fall in love, etc. That's why the movie is B/W and locations are hazy: It's Tehran, but it can be anywhere. So, why it shouldn't be in French/English?... Marjane has already answered that quite well.
alibeshjr 3 years ago
what does it mean "Persepolis"?
Alainpozzo 3 years ago
It's an ancient city in Iran
kulera 3 years ago
Alainpozzo:
Persepolis is the Greek name for the ancient cultural capital of the Persian Empire, which is located in Southern Iran. It's also the name that is more known by the West. But, in Persian, it's called Takht-e Jamshid (Translation: Throne of Jamshid). Basically, in Greek, the word "Perse" means Persian, and the word "polis" means city - Persian City. Takht-e Jamshid (Persepolis) is a historical site where you can see ruins from many palaces that were built during the Persian Empire.
PersiaMyLove 3 years ago
so who's Jamshid?
yashil17 3 years ago
@yashil17:
Jamshid is a mythological figure that is a part of the Iranian culture/tradition and is also related to the Zoroastrian culture. Zoroastrianism is the purest religion of Iran and is believed to be more than 3000 years old. In tradition & folklore, Jamshid is described to be the 4th King (Shah) of the world. He is mentioned in the book, Shahname, written by the legendary Persian poet Ferdowsi. Jamshid is also a common Persian male name. It's actually a popular Zoroastrian name.
PersiaMyLove 3 years ago
i see thatnks bro, by the way Zoroastrianisdm or Zartushti is a religion and not a mythology right, because there r lots of ppl and a movie that stated it as a belief and myth
yashil17 3 years ago
As user PersiaMyLove stated. Persepolis comes from Perse +polis(Πόλις) which is made popular by the Greek(Hellenic) emperor Alexander.
Even before alexander's invasion, relationships between Persia and Greece were existed , sometimes bad , some others good.
astalavisitor 3 years ago
@astalavisitor:
I still have much love for the Greeks. The Greeks never tried to destroy our culture & identity as the Arabs tried to do and are still trying to do. That's the main reason Iranians hate Arabs. If you visit Persepolis (Takht-e Jamshid), you'll see that there are holes in some statues that were in easy reach. That's because the Arabs tried to literally erase the faces of the statues, exactly like they are currently trying to erase the Persian history by distorting facts about us.
PersiaMyLove 3 years ago
This movie would have been tremendous if it was in Persian. Why does the family speak French in Iran? I don't get it, this was really odd.
austpers 3 years ago
They spek french because Marjane Satrapi lives in France and this is a French animated movie. It would be hard to do it in Persian with only one person in the workforce knowing it.
PokeDude1995 3 years ago 2
There are numerous excellent Iranian film-makers who could have helped. To an Iranian seeing this movie, it seems so unreal when an Iranian family livng in Iran speaks French. I suppose this is not aimed at Iranian audience, so it does not matter. However, it would be Iranians who can relate to this story most.
austpers 3 years ago
The book Persepolis has been banned from Iran because of its content. There's a version of it translated into Persian, but it's more underground. If the government forbids the book, do you really think they're going to let the people see the movie?
BlackTabby3 3 years ago
I've seen it! it's freely available under the counter at any video store. (just ask) Anythig is available here even every brand of alcohol.
austpers 3 years ago
People in Iran are not in the dark as you think, I believe the satellite tv channals available top 1000 in any household.
austpers 3 years ago
Iranians/Persians were never dark, we are an ancient Aryan nation, however even before Aryan migration Persians had light skin and haircolor other than the typical Asian black hair, example: the god of Zartushti(Zarusthra/Zoroastrianism) Ahura Mazda (he had white skin and red hair, he kind of looked like Jesus, look him up on google)
yashil17 3 years ago
oh i Love Marjane Satrapi
the movie was touching and
the book/comic was phenominal
izzyrodzilla 3 years ago
well, watched it today for the first time and i must say it's absolutely genius.With no doubt this is story of many of us. well done marnjane and of course Vincent.
matt24hours 3 years ago
pro-iranien ???
she s just iranien and pride !!!
terzmovie 3 years ago 2
I'm not a religious person i don't even pray much & i know that it is wrong & i am trying to change that. but lets say that there is no god as u say & you're free to do every thing u want. many things that u will do will harm you & people around u. like sex without marriage, drinking, have no faith it is all being evil"i drink i smoke in fact i am a dj"but i know that many things i do is wrong and that there is god i feel that being good to people and your self having peace is being religious
thedjkay 3 years ago
yo man, try to pray and feel good and do what god says, being good and try to feel that there is only on god. then talk to him ask him of one thing have faith and if god did not help you, you are free to be free, yet still i know it is wrong to be atheist
thedjkay 3 years ago
I LOVED Persepolis. I spent 6 months working in Iran, and joined my Iranian colleagues doing all those things, dancing in sitting rooms, wearing the garb, a parallel life behind closed doors. My Iranian boyfriend and I were followed to the desert by the police, they even caught up with me on horseback, galloping across a field, and told me to 'fix my scarf'! The film brought all these everyday things back. And the animation... wow. Thanks to Marjane Satrapi, what a winner!
Emeraldant 3 years ago
i just finished the first book. then i watched the movie. it was great. now im gonna read the second book!! she's an artist!! a legend!!
Msmonay2 3 years ago
Persepolis is what it is. The film tells a story from the prospective of a person raised in the culture. That's fact.
Kuro40 3 years ago
Of course anti-art. When all you do is about politics, and political proselitism to get people ignorant about the real situation to believe what is presented to them is just a sincere perspective, rather than a disgusting display of a political agenda, then where on earth do you leave the art?
germanicus24 3 years ago
what an idiot person you are germanicus 24!!! you want to keep women in condition of 1400 years ago with the fuck-up profet mohammad's (a bloodthirsty peofile who started as many wars as he could during his so called profecy and got married to 9 years old girl at the age of 60, but i'm sure that wouldn't bother you of course) attitudes towards women and called it "modesty???!!! man, get a life!
dude41berlin 3 years ago 2
Sugarpants, I empathize. :D
amiry8 3 years ago
i have just read the books and can't wait for the film.She rocks !
taariqtaariq 3 years ago
"That is anti-Islamic propaganda Rushdie style, and a huge offense to the most sacred values of the Iranian society."
Yes, she managed to portray fanatic morons like you very well, so brainwashed by their ideology that they are not able to understand art anymore: you view novels, paintings, movies only in very narrow political categories.
Btw, she and her family and friends are Iranians, so much for "sacred values of the Iranian people" religion than is just part of politics, obviously.
truestefq 3 years ago
What type of fanatic am I exactly? What religion is that of mine if you could be so gentle to enlighten us about it?
germanicus24 3 years ago
Are we playing 20 questions?
Let me guess!!
Question 1: is your religion German in origin?
farmface 3 years ago
anti-art?
joshfarc 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
No. The topic of religion is NOT avoided. Satrapi questions the Islamic concept of liberation through the modesty of clothes, and she portrays it as an exclusivity only for women.
Satrapi portrays the martyrs of Iran as brainwashed youth over getting 72 virgins in heaven. That is anti-Islamic propaganda Rushdie style, and a huge offense to the most sacred values of the Iranian society.
Its sad how you prefer a movie to teach you what you are so lazy to see for yourself.
germanicus24 3 years ago
Why are people thumbing down germanicus24. He's only expressing his opinion in a non offensive way. You may disagree with his opinion, but his post is not offensive.
agamemnon33 3 years ago 3
Im glad you think its not offensive. I guess some people have a problem when others disagree and state their reasons.
Kind regards from Chile
Germán
germanicus24 3 years ago
germanicus: obviously you have never lived in the middle east. If you had, you would know that modest dress is required ONLY in women. There are no modesty laws for men. I lived for two years in Riyadh and I saw first hand with my own eyes the way women are treated there. I am not trying to brainwash anyone. It's a fact.
lubingruby 3 years ago 2
"You have never lived in" is not a valid argument. Because I havent lived in the US George Bush's word is supposed to have any value on US policies?
So what if you lived in Riyadh. Saudia is an anti Islamic monarchist dictatorship financed by the pockets of Americans, and Iran is explicitly against it. There are modesty laws for both men and women there, and unlike in Saudia, women in Iran succeed to vast heights in the society.
So no, it is not a fact, and your claim makes it more perturbing.
germanicus24 3 years ago
I can even say, 'You have never been in Iran'.
You clearly havent because you assume the women's situation in Iran is like the one sponsored by American tax payers in Saudi Arabia. But still its not even a valid argument.
Can you people stop judging things from what others tell you. Im not telling you believe in ME, but for God's sake, dont believe in a movie either, or in any third person accounts. Why cant you have critical thinking and perceive through own senses...
germanicus24 3 years ago
You are correct that Iran is not the same country as Saudia Arabia. They do, however, hold very similar values in terms of a woman's place in society. BTW, the US has absolutely no ability to manipulate the cultural norms of that region of the world. The extremely religious sects in the middle east would never allow it
lubingruby 3 years ago
Really, so it is also Iran's fault that once a minority, the Talibans and their "cultural norms", now rule Afghanistan and are spreading around the world, together with Al Qaeda, Sunni Jihadism, and Jundallah army? Again, thank you American tax payers for that.
Of course Iranians and Saudis have similar values: They are Muslims...
If what you are implying is that Muslims are innate oppressors of women, then your issue is with Islam, just as it is of Satrapi, no matter how much she denies it.
germanicus24 3 years ago
It is not Islamic to oppress women. That is, oppressing women is not part of the religion OF Islam. The oppression of women in middle eastern countries is a separate cultural issue unrelated to the Koran.
lubingruby 3 years ago