Bad Medicine 2/5 - The human cost of animal experiments

[loalbear111]

In 1906 a bronze monument was erected to remember the brown dog that was passed between 3 different vivisectors.The monument was destroyed after rioting in 1910, replaced in 1985 in battersea park . Its 2012 and it still goes on. Buy products with the buav/leaping bunny logo. Buy from co-op/sainsburys/superdrug m&s own brands or crueltyfree shopping book. Thousands joined in to stop the breeding of beagles for research in yorkshire, planning has been denied. Dont we have enough drugs now?

[uching]

this is why they should be testing new drugs not on animals but on human death row inmates.

murderers and rapists of the worst kind could earn themselves an extention of life for themselves by allowing themselves to serve humankind by becoming accurate testing models.

[DavinaFaerie]

the difference between "genuine science" & "false science" & how animals can not relate to human diseases is so obviously apparent.

An animal can never catch Aids or any other another disease from a human as their fundamental structure & make up is completely different to ours & their bodies don't see Aids as a disease whereas ours does-so how can we test on them for human diseases & expect to find real "cures"?

[TheSquirrelymel]

DO THIS SH*T ON INMATES SITTING IN JAIL FOR HORRID CRIMES!!!! BULLSH*T DOESNT EVEN GIVE CORRECT OUTCOME FOR HUMAN USE A**HOLES

[DocKillRoy]

if animal testing can stop 0.001 % of drugs harmfull to humans it's worth it, also most vid's shown of animal testing are over 10 years old. All that sayed there are alternativs to animal testing that many testcenters still dont use, witch is a shame.

[leannebridgewater]

@DocKillRoy but how do you know what 0.001% is true? I thjink your argument is wrong - animals can't stop any drugs from being harmful to humans, because, simply, they are not humans. it is so simple - there are, like you mention, many other better ways - computer modelling, cell tissue - also this video is not that old - and nothing has changed, apart from in the uk, they don't drill straight throught a brain now, but her, who are we to know - it is not like we're allowed to see, and why

[leannebridgewater]

why? because if the laboratories were made of glass houses, and we could see, then the whole world would be voting against it

[raventakayama]

@leannebridgewater Lab practices are really common knowledge. The only thing one could say about them is that they are hiding their practices in plain sight. Its no secret. Its just shocking to most because people never thought to look into it until someone said hey look at this. As a biology major in my undergrad studies I saw plenty of lab practices both good and bad. No one was trying to hide it. There's no big cover up. Why cover up something that's accepted in the scientific community?

[ThePeixes03]

Seus humanos de merda, voces nao se envergonham de fazerem parte da escoria do planeta por causarem dor e sofrimento aos pobres, inocentes e indefesos animais????? Estudem uns aos outros, abram cada um o rabo do outro para verem, por exemplo, o mecanismo que o reto utiliza na hora de fazer coco. Tomem vergonha na cara e procurem se redimir enquanto ainda podem. Limpem o nome, a honra(se é que sabem o que é isso) e a propria cara perante a humanidade. PAREM DE TORTURAR OS ANIMAISH

[noratmedicine]

You really have to design the medicine for the species of interest…You'll find it very rare to find a medicine that will work in both… Patrick M. O'Connor, head of oncology research for Pfizer, quoted in The New York Times, 24 November.

Even when drugs with evidence of anticancer activity in preclinical in vivo models are given at their maximum tolerated doses, they frequently fail to produce useful activity in humans. Sausville & Burger, Cancer Research, 66, 3351-3354, April 1.

[noratmedicine]

2007

We have learned well how to treat cancer in mice and rats but we still can’t cure people. Professor Colin Garner, quoted in Accelerator MS Is a Powerful New Tool, Genetic Engineering & Biotechnology News, Vol. 27, No. 15.

2006

We do trials in people because animal models do not predict what will happen in humans. Dr Sally Burtles, Cancer Research UK, Report of the Expert Scientific Group on phase one clinical trials, following the TGN1412 clinical trial disaster. curedisease. net

[ListerStorm666]

I'm completely against testing on animals. I do believe it is a cruel method of experimentation. But this video is really biased and full of misinformation and 'false facts'. I was surprised to see a butchers shop arrive along side a cigarette butt when the narrator said "unhealthy lifestyles'. I'm sorry but eating pork and the slow torture of animals are very different. Eating meat is part of a healthy lifestyle... and this "documentary" is simply propoganda.

[frankenfoamy]

Eating meat in excess in profoundly accepted as a danger to human health.

[LynZee88]

@frankenfoamy So is not getting enough meat. Stop shoving your pushy vegan views on people who don't give a shit. Animal testing is wrong, yes. But I'm gonna fucking eat some steak if I damn well want to.

[frankenfoamy]

@LynZee88 Please name one quality source that would agree with your position.

How is eating less meat than average Vegan? ( which would be no meat)

[frankenfoamy]

@LynZee88 The American Dietetic Association has stated that a Vegan diet is healthy for all phases of life and is likely to improve health. A quick google search will bear this out, least you think I would post a sham link.

[BDubXOne]

@ListerStorm666

:P Pork is far from being part of a healthy lifestyle(excluding the idea that you're referring to it being like a junk food item once in a while). As with pretty much all meat. At least any meat that any person on Earth would eat today. And I understand what you're getting at with the difference between the cruelty of eating pork/meat vs animal testing, but you must buy local or do you not know where majority of animal products are produced?

[noratmedicine]

@ListerStorm666 do you have any evidence to support your claim that this vid. is propoganda? "The history of cancer research has been a history of curing cancer in the mouse. We have cured mice of cancer for decades, and it simply didn’t work in humans. Dr Richard Klausner, Director, National Cancer Institute, LA Times, May 6. 1998

[mzcyberbat]

sounds like the narrator is Stephen Fry

[shawzimoto]

because we choose to lead unhealthy lives.. animals have to pay for it by testing.. how selfish we are! We wouldn't have all these diseases if we didn't corrupt our own land!

[craig1377]

This cruelty has to stop NOW!!