The truth behind Scientology's anti-Psychiatry madness from LRH himself.

[fzappa007]

"Not a few but many,many,many" And to think that Not a few, but many,many,many have been and are fooled by this charlatans BULLSHIT, $cientology was built by a week minded retard and is followed by week minded retards, and no offense towards the natural mentally retarded people in our society..

[greatleaderleopold]

Oh lala

[greatleaderleopold]

Even if Scientology is a dangerous cult in itself, it is nevertheless pretty accurate on psychiatry.

[jenhope100]

Psychology creates problems, Scientology fixes them.

[NomenNescioNY]

@jenhope100 Scientology sure fixed Jeremy and Elli Perkins' problems. Just like they fixed Jett Travolta's problems. Similarly, they fixed Heribert Pfaff's problems "Heribert, a seizure sufferer hit his head on the night table. The scientology doctor reports that he prescribed vitamins for his patient -dispite regular attacks- in stead of treating him with proper medication. " Then, let's not forget how they fixed Stacy Moxon's problems, Lisa McPhearson's problems (and many others). PERMANENTLY

[NomenNescioNY]

@jenhope100 If you really, honestly and truly believe that, there's very little anyone can say other than you've been seriously deceived - deceived by a guy writing in the 1950's of things done in the 1920's and 30's, if ever. Wake up, smell the coffee, and run out of your internal-CFHR horror show - or don't. Icepick lobotomies indeed. :)

[MetalBru01]

@jenhope100 Hail xenu!

[NomenNescioNY]

@jenhope100 Glory, Marcabia! Hail Xenu. He's coming back to collect those Body Thetans (space cooties IOW) and guess who can most replenish his BT supply - Kirstey Alley! Forget 'The Wall of Fire' - she's been dealing with "The Wall of Cake", the poor deluded kultie. Scientology sure solved all her problems!

GLORY MARCABIA!

[Acharmye]

I know you're not from this planet, ROFL

[Acharmye]

I ask the same thing about $cientology, why does the GOV allow it?

[QCBEC]

that is elron?

He look like a pedofile lol

[ShhhhhItsasecret]

...rabblerawrs?

[Encryptonation]

0:07 to 0:16

And I suppose he was implying he was one of them?

Scientology is shit.

[madbandicooot]

Psychiatry is fucked up, I know from my own experience over the years being involved with it. These psychiatric drugs are very damaging, I nearly died because of some of the side effects, I was pushed drugs on when I was younger, never once warned of the side effects and am left with a movement disorder from an antipsychotic I took. WHO WILL GIVE ME JUSTICE?

[greatleaderleopold]

@madbandicooot

OR ME ?

[NomenNescioNY]

@greatleaderleopold & @madbandicooot - I totally agree that there are and have been abuses, just like with any profession or any drug. For example, take a look at synthetic opiates (oxycodone, so forth which account for 70% of illicit drug use). Drugs can both help and harm. I have an opposite experience where "psychiatric" (anti-anxiety/anti-panic attack) medication has had a very positive effect in my life. Of course, there are side effects, but for me the positive ways out the negative.

[greatleaderleopold]

@NomenNescioNY

I suppose the enmity between psychiatry and Scientology can be compared to the relationship between Nazi fascism and Soviet communism: Two inhumane , evil systems which nevertheless detested each other and pointed out each other´s faults whilst neither was better than the other.

[NomenNescioNY]

However, scientology isn't there to help people. It's there to find your ruin and then systematically fleece you for anything of worth and imprison you mentally to work for the organization for pennies, while the people deluded into "receiving services" spend tens and hundreds of thousands.

I guess the way you guys feel about psychiatry, I feel about Scientology.

Who will give ME justice?

[rastawella1]

@NomenNescioNY I agree with you on Scientology. I have, however come to the same conclusion about psychiatry as "Scientology" has, prior to even knowing anything about Scientology. Psychiatry mainly, really sucks. They do not know what they are doing. It more often than not, hurts people physically and mentally. It should be as voluntarily applied as a visit to or by a PSYCHIC READER. It works for those who buy into it.

[TaimaDjinn]

Psychiatry and Scientology: two cults that will rape you for your money and destroy you for opposing them. Two sides of the same fascist coin.

[eydos]

I just have to point out that not all of anti-psychiatry comes with scientology. There are lot of social scientists, psychologists, philosophers and even psychiatrists under the larger anti-psychiatry umbrella-term. I am against it, and have nothing to do with that religion.

[nowgleaning]

3:40 This is one of the main things that really infuckingfuriates me! He's absolutely right to give thanks to his faithful followers -they're the ones responsible for his success, they're the reason he got as far as he did; they indulged his sick fantasies & his hideous ego.Without their support & the law & general public looking on apathetically he would not have risen to power. I listen to his lectures & the way he purrs with self-satisfaction as his adoring fans lapp it up & it makes me sick!

[crowley611]

L Ron Hubbard was given Vistaril® by Dr. Gene Denk in his final days, by intramuscular injection in the right buttocks. Vistaril® is a psychiatric drug, used to calm frantic or overly anxious patients. He died on January 24th, 1986, eight days after the fatal stroke, and one day after signing his last will and testament. He died in a 1982 Blue Bird motor home, about five miles East of Creston, CA, at the very remote "Emanuel Camp". His fingernails and toenails were long and unkempt.

[cambell1308]

well Elron I mean L.Ron says homosexuality is an abomination, his son was gay, he committed suicide in 1976, yeah L.Ron what a humanitarian he's definitely out to save lives

[NomenNescioNY]

@cambell1308 Absolutely true. Tubby's homophobia and sexual disfunctionality is well documented. He was also quite authoritarian, paranoid in the extreme, misogynist, satanist and quite definitely a sadist (especially to those around him, and his children were not exempt from his days-long tantrum fits.) Quentin was a shy, quiet person who lived to please his father. He was a highly trained Scientology auditor. His father cancelled all his certificates shortly before Quentin died. -cont-

[NomenNescioNY]

@cambell1308 "Quentin was found unkempt with a beard stubble, a state that no one who knew Quentin could accept. (He was ultra-meticulous in his appearance.) Or that the license plate of the car was missing and found under a rock some distance away. Or that his wallet was gone, making identification impossible. Or that a near-empty bottle of liquor was found, as if he had been drinking, when Quentin did not. Or that there were needle marks on his arms, when he did not use drugs." -cont-

[NomenNescioNY]

@cambell1308 A Peace of Blue Sky, Chapter 6 "Quentin had tried to measure up to his father's expectations - he was one of the few top-grade Class Twelve Auditors - but he did not share his father's temperament. By all accounts he was far too gentle to govern Scientology, or indeed to govern anything. All he wanted was to fly airplanes, and he often pleaded with his father to allow him to leave the Sea Org and do just that. He had disappeared several times in an attempt to escape.

[NomenNescioNY]

@cambell1308 This kid was a miserable, miserable boy. He was good at the tech. His father crucified him - had him com-eved [tried in a Scientology court], thrown in the RPF [forced labour], declared out-tech [heretical]. He was not a boy with a manly demeanour. He was a little kid out of his depth. He knew he could never compete with his father. He was in a no win situation. Hubbard put him into isolation after a suicide attempt, then put in the RPF.

Awful stuff. Q was a gentle, smart fellow.

[cambell1308]

@NomenNescioNY I totally agree Nomen I was being sarcastic, but I agree the the poor boy was put through hell until he couldn't take it anymore, this is precisely why L.Ron is unqualified to lead anything let alone a religion.

Peace

[Dagobah359]

"Don't try to defend Scientology, instead go on the offensive and attack..."

lol, common tactics for that which can't be defended.

[amazemeplz]

Just substitute the words "Scientology" with 'Psychiatry"

It makes THAT much more sense.

[PoleReseal]

hahaha what this guy is saying, it's just mega LOL

[rddbba]

scientology does use amnesic drugs to members detoxifying program supposedly they use vitamins but really they are amnesic drugs to make them forget their childhood forget their mother and favor whoever has money in their life even get rid of family members who warn Scientology is NO church it is an Alien mad cult that tells people way into their way up into the cult that they are Aliens not of this planet different from other human beings superior etc.

[rouncer81]

nah, hitler what he did to jews is alot LIKE how they treat people at these hospitals!!!!!

[williamkendrick]

i agree with hubbard.

scientology is NOT a religion

its a pshychiatric death camp.

[super16g123]

wow.....that sounded pretty level headed actually. psychiatry's just prescribes drugs and more drugs to suppress symptoms..... chemical lobotomies. they never solve the cause of the symptoms. there is no money in that.

[anonygonads]

why was ron homophobic

when parsons and crowley were masturbating doing their ritual magic

parsons had a huge rocket and crowley a long snake

but poor ron had a squigly twirled micro red pig s meat

and he was super hungry for both his partneres ding alings

[NomenNescioNY]

Yes. People were given lobotomies in the 1920s. People were also gassed and burned alive in the 40's. To say that psychiatrists engineered the holocaust is an insult to everyone who lost family during the holocaust. To scream "Nazi" at everyone who disagrees is a further slap in the face. And to claim that the Fascists were under the influence of psychiatrists partly excuses the acts. Furthermore, most folks know that icepick lobotomies were at one point performed; matter of historic record.

[persontruthbeauty]

What L. Ron Hubbard is saying is true. Ect and lobotomies were given. Antipsychotic drugs cause tardive dyskinesia in a large number of cases.

[MrRedFredSaid]

Much of what Hubbard is saying is true. In some cases, it's exaggerated. But people were given lobotomies - which is what he's talking about regarding the ice pick. However, having said that, Hubbard was out of his everloving conman mind. His answer to mental illness was to bilk people out of their last penny.

[mandirigma79]

L. Ron's beef with Psychiatry comes from back when he published Dianetics. He originally intended for it to be a system of mental therapy and because he could not support his claims of it's effectiveness the Psychiatric community rejected Dianetics. When Dianetics became Scientology is when he started his 'looney' crusade against Psychiatry as a way to get revenge.

[jorgo3p]

Not from this planet is about right lol!

[NotSoOldHippy]

Did you see these insane Scientology crooks getting their asses thrown out of Haiti by the U. S. Army? The fucking crooks were trying to pretend they were "ministers" and had to keep getting caught and escorted out behind police lines until the fucking U. S. Army had to put a stop to these insane criminals.

[bwilli93]

what a fuckkin loon.