EVERYTHING in this clip - in fact, most of Loose Change - has been thoroughly debunked.
The misquoting of coroner Wally Miller is perhaps the most reprehensible part, suggesting he doesn't believe flight 93 crashed there when he has in fact been crystal clear that it DID.
I really don't think we need your website link to see that there's no wreckage or bodies anywhere. And Flight 93 was approx. 80-100 tons with 44 passengers, right?
@muzicmaker2001 Flt. 93 hit the ground in a nose-down attitude at 500+ mph!! Do you REALLY need an explanation for why no intact bodies were found? That's what Mr. Miller was referring to when he said he ceased being a coroner after 20 minutes - it was perfectly clear what killed those people.
And for the record, wreckage WAS recovered, more than 90% of the plane! Just no big parts - again, for reasons which are perfectly obvious to those not determined to see conspiracy.
@muzicmaker2001 Flt. 93 hit the ground in a nose-down attitude at 500+ mph!! Do you REALLY need an explanation for why no intact bodies were found? That's what Mr. Miller was referring to when he said he ceased being a coroner after 20 minutes - it was perfectly clear what killed those people
And for the record, wreckage WAS recovered, more than 90% of the plane! Just no big parts - again, for reasons which are perfectly obvious to those not determined to see conspiracy.
@muzicmaker2001 Flt. 93 hit the ground in a nose-down attitude at 500+ mph!! Do you REALLY need an explanation for why no intact bodies were found? That's what Mr. Miller was referring to when he said he ceased being a coroner after 20 minutes - it was perfectly clear what killed those people.
And for the record, wreckage WAS recovered, more than 90% of the plane! Just no big parts - again, for reasons which are perfectly obvious to those not determined to see conspiracy.
@muzicmaker2001 Flt. 93 hit the ground in a nose-down attitude at 500+ mph!! Do you REALLY need an explanation for why no intact bodies were found? That's what Mr. Miller was referring to when he said he ceased being a coroner after 20 minutes - it was perfectly clear what killed those people.
And for the record, wreckage WAS recovered, more than 90% of the plane! Just no big parts - again, for reasons which are perfectly obvious to those not determined to see conspiracy.
@muzicmaker2001 Flt 93 hit the ground in a nose-down attitude at 500+ mph!! Do you REALLY need an explanation for why no intact bodies were found? That's what Mr. Miller was referring to when he said he ceased being a coroner after 20 minutes - it was perfectly clear what killed those people.
And for the record, wreckage WAS recovered, more than 90% of the plane! Just no big parts - again, for reasons which are perfectly obvious to those not determined to see conspiracy.
@muzicmaker2001 Flt 93 hit the ground in a nose-down attitude at 500+ mph!! Do you REALLY need an explanation for why no intact bodies were found? That's what Mr. Miller was referring to when he said he ceased being a coroner after 20 minutes - it was perfectly clear what killed those people.
And for the record, wreckage WAS recovered, more than 90% of the plane! Just no big parts - again, for reasons which are perfectly obvious to anyone not determined to see conspiracy.
Please post evidence of this. I hope its not the RKowens clip where he actually states 95% of the plane was recovered but doesn't show any proof of this. See my discussion with fellow debunker dachamp171.
@muzicmaker2001 None of those incidents are identical to flight 93; many aren't even similar (different planes, some broke up in mid-air, etc.) Comparing this crash to that & arguing that one can't be real because it doesn't look exactly like this one is bogus logic.
Numerous witnesses saw 93 go down. Debris was recovered, including both black boxes. Remains of all of the passengers were eventually identified via DNA testing.
Here we go with the "once in a lifetime" event that can not be compared to anything else. Its a aluminum plane hitting a hard surface. That's it. There are numerous examples of this but NONE that resemble the lack of debris left by Flight 93. Its time to deal with that.
On the day? Lots of it was buried & had to be dug up; I've seen pictures of an engine, the black boxes, pieces of fuselage, etc. but I can't provide you with an inventory, sorry. Obviously I'm accepting the reports of the officials who cleaned up the site; I understand that you don't trust them but I can't help that. What I'm asking YOU for is evidence that the 95% figure is wrong.
'What I'm asking YOU for is evidence that the 95% figure is wrong"
Well, just look at the crash site. So, if Flight 93 is only 80 tons. Where is 76 tons? An engine and a fuselage? And I trust the evidence in front of my eyes. Unless the clean up crews immediately picked up 80 tons of plane plus 44 passengers/bodies?
"And you REALLY think that's a compelling argument?"
The evidence speaks for itself. No witnesses needed here. But, if many people stated that 1+1=3, what would you believe? Once more, can you post the evidence of this 76 tons? Hw about even 20 tons?
@muzicmaker2001 I believe the 95% figure comes from the FBI, though if you want to argue a smaller figure, that's fine - as long as the figure is more than 0% :-) And no, obviously I can't prove this myself.
I'm just far more inclined to believe the FBI than someone who believes the eyewitnesses, first responders, investigators, air traffic controllers, family members & cleanup crews are all lying.
@TimReed22222 were you not listening to the interview??....the guy said there was nothing there, all you could see was dirt and ash....so where is the 90% they recovered? can you provide a source??
these air telephone calls could have come from the real flights before the planes were disposed of over the sea, with the cover of military exercises and a hurricane to hide their tracks in the confusion of the day.
After that the remote controlled planes and missiles took over.
We will never forget you and will strive for the truth and see justice done .
This raises some severe questions. Planes do NOT just vaporize when they crash (absent a nuclear bomb going off when they crash), there is ALWAYS.... A L W A Y S debris and body parts left.
---well-------anyhow,they are building a really swell memorial whether it did crash or not-----(and as long as the paychecks don't bounce,Somerset County finally has some work-----)
No one will ever know the answers but WHY would the Mayor or United Airlines LIE about Flight 93 LANDING if it didn't and why would the media report it? Questions left untold. As far as people saying it 'vaporized' because it was traveling at 550mph when it hit, jets have hit mountains at speed and there were ALWAYS bodies (parts at least) to be found. Google that.
If the paasengers landed safely; why has not a one of them ever turned up with a boarding card or reported that that was their flight? This was such a huge story, one would say, "Hey wait, I'm alive!" Are you saying the Feds landed them safely, then spirited them off somewhere and they are still there 10 years later?!?!
That makes littles sense, as there are too many risks of discovery or something going wrong. It would be so much safer for any alleged conspiracy to shoot the plan down. So many "Truther" "explanations" requires great numbers of participants. Absurdly too many.
It's doable in fiction to murder > 100 innocents, but finding REAL people to do it and stay mum 10 years is very unlikely.
Don't let "what if" and "maybe" weigh more than the known facts, no matter how few.
In the Air Force, as a firefighter, We all witnessed a B-52 Bomber hit the ground nose first at extreme speed. The plane exploded as it hit the ground. Every crew member was recovered, as well as equipment, along with seats, cushions and even personal effects. All this even after a tremendous explosion and fireball. If that was flight 93, big IF, it was, without question, blown out of the sky!
IN EVERY SINGLE AIRPLANE CRASH EVER..................... THERE IS ALWAYS, I REPEAT ALWAYS WRECKAGE. OF EVERY SINGLE PLANE CRASH EVER IN WORLD HISTORY NO MATTER, I REPEAT NO MATTER HOW EXTREME, THERE IS ALWAYS WRECKAGE......... WHY NON HERE????
All things went to hell when Dick Cheney stepped down as CEO of Halliburton to run for Vice President in 2000. After he took office, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld gave Cheney the authority to take over NORAD. The first time in history this has ever happened. Fast forward to 9/11 and guess who is standing NORAD down during the alleged attacks? That`s right, Dick Cheney. Guess who was running identical hijacking drills the morning of 9/11? That`s right, Dick Cheney.
the plane was shot down asshole over pennsylvania search youtube for "mineta flight 93 shot down flv. " It shows government officials confirm that bush gave orders to shoot down the plane. Your video sucks ass
safe and all you doing is sitting here thinking of dumb ass reason of why didnt this happen and the government did this. YOU DONT LIKE OUR GOVERNMENT? get the hell out of America and go find another country thats run by a better one......and i bet you, you never will. get your head out of your asses. pay respect for those who passed in the plane crashes and those fighting your YOUR freedom AND safety...dumb asses.
for all of you idiots who THINK this is a conspiracy..... 85% of the damn plane is STILL on the ground. they actually hit the ground going 683 mpfreakinh. has soon has the plane hit it disintegrated. MEANING all bodies were instantly gone and burned by time response teams got there. im pretty sure when you hit the ground going that damn fast everything goes EVERYWHERE you conspiracy people are pathetic to sit here talkin all this god damn mes when our people are over there fighting to keep us
@jasonlloyd33 it was not shot down...no eyewitness saw or heard a missile or cannon fire. debris field size and pattern do not support a shoot down. Yes a standing order of shooting down an aircraft in a no fly zone around the White house and surrounding area exist. Passengers brought down 93 before it could be shot down.
@dachamp171 i said 95% u idiot, most crashed happen at take off but this didnt crash at take off now did it u idiot, it was upside down goin 500mph or some shit like that, and with 9 ppl who saw it happen... or did BUsh pay them to say they saw it hahahahaha
@muzicmaker2001 ok let me put it this way, when there is a shooting anywhere and the murderer leaves the gun there so he cant be tracked down, the police take the gun n its pretty much never seen again, same with the plane debris and same with the black boxes from Flight 77 and 93 they were found n never seen again but the FBI n government dont care wat we think thats why we never seen it after
@dachamp171 just sounds like your making shit up with absolutely nothing to support your logic..i wouldnt be calling other people idiots for being a little skeptical of this theory of your especially when it seems that you arnt even able to find anything to back yourself up..youve got to do an awful lot of research before even thinking about contributing to any conspiracy theory, otherwise you make your self look like a total ass..muzicmaker has obviously done his homework and you should stfu
@dachamp171 i think theres a difference between a fucking murder and a mass homicide u fucking ignorant shit, they went to the scene 20 min more r less after the crash the goverment removed 95% of the evidence that quick? hmm theyre pretty fucking fast,
@mrkushlover hey guess wat, u know why they recovered it that quick? cuz thats their job! XD idiot! hey wat is ur educational level? 2nd grade maybe??
Uhh, you do know you can't recover/move/whatever you're saying 80 tons of plane and 44 bodies that quick, right? It takes weeks. The crash scene was shown on 911 and there is no sign of the plane or the bodies anywhere. Please wake up...
@muzicmaker2001 WEEKS???? HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA ur funny, the plane hit the ground blew into a bunch of SMALL pieces thats why they lifted it so quick, u damn conspiracy heckler n seriously wat is ur educational level?? i wanna kno
But, you original stated 95% of the plane was recovered? That's about 80 tons, right? Since no significant wreckage is shown in any footage, in your mind, was this 80 tons of plane wreckage recovered before any footage was seen? Even before the pile stopped smoking? Funny stuff..
@muzicmaker2001 yes 95% of the plane was recovered there is no evidence of flight 93 being shot down or not being there at all, IT WAS there, there is no conspiracy at all ur jus immature, and the pieces were collected to see what it was and it was determined to be Flight 93
@jsmith2144 the plane hit the ground while going over 550 mph, jet fuel makes the explosion even worse, what in the blue hell makes u think there should be bodies????? RETARD :D :D :D :D
It's odd that the current comment count happens to be 666.
Anyhow, you people who claim this to be a conspiracy are absolutely nuts. Do you honestly believe that the US government would dare to attack its own people and on such a major scale. The citizens of the US would go absolutely mental and overthrow the government if they ever found out there was ever such a conspiracy.
If you happen to check out the 9/11 flight 93 rare footage page becareful of @STATECHIC@ShoUsCensorship & @LOOKUPZIONISM & @ CODEVICTIM They are the same person who is trying to CENSOR the page and people on trying to discuss the topic. DONT LET THEM CENSOR YOUTUBE. SAY NO TO CENSORSHIP POST WHAT U WANT TO POST. SAY NO TO CENSORSHIP. KEEP POSTING ABOUT 911. SAY NO TO CENSORSHIP.
So let me guesss this straight. so all those wives who talked to there husbands on flight 93 were lying/ they really landed at another airport. NOW i get it. OMG,you people should be ashamed of your selves. All those kids never again saw there fathers
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Theres no proff flight 93 crashed Shanksfil? well heres the proff
1 95 percennt was found.
2 it was tracked all the way to it inpacted.
3 dozons of witnesses saw it,s crash
4 they found the remains of all 44 passangers
and what truthers use as evidence is millar saying i have not seen a drop of blood not a drop well if u look up, what wally miller really said you,ll find he himself telling u something different, miller was picking up bodies and all the people who came to 93 not 1 of them
they where kid napped. plan landed in a hiden tar mak. they were take to iserial. plan was flown reotly. 3 r still alive a womon wereing a muron teashor , man with front mouth hair , the other i dont now they needed these 3 for a richual. all the rest where gast and dropt in acid the skuls where used buy the 3 to trow them in a pool with the 1 who i can only call the anti crihst after ward the 3 where shot there botys trown in the pool . it was sumentid over.. all i know im sorry
how come not one person from flight 93 called their family when they were on the ground. The first thing we all do is call someone when we get service. No family said they got a call from a passenger on 93 when they were in the airport.
In shanksville there are memorials up and I've been there plenty of times... A very good friend of mine seen the plane very low coming across 219 that September day and it shouldn't of been an I'm defiantly sure the government had something to do with all of this ..
(This was done to convey a positive hero complex) and cover up the outrage US citizens would have over the shootdown. Not only that: Who would fly after such a thing? If a plane suddenly veered off course, would it suddenly be shot down as well? Also after almost 10 years, NO memorial OF ANY KIND exists in Shanksville? Why? To keep things quiet and pay as little attention to it as possible. It would only take maybe 100 grand by the govt to have erected such a necessary memorial.
It has been factually stated by Dick Cheney that he ordered the plane shot down. He has admitted this on national TV on Meet the Press. He even stated after the plane was down, he felt terrible. VERY SHORTLY AFTER the fact, a ridiculous story to insult the intelligence of the American people stated that miraculously passengers overtook the terrorists, and they crashed it.
I live within 20 miles from Shanksville and Somerset County PA. I know many of the police and fireman who were called out there on September 11, 2001. The plane was most DEFINITELY shot from the sky by the US military. Not to down play what may have happened with the folk heroes , like Todd Beamer who were on board, that the Wag the Dog spin doctors of the Bush White House tried to romanticize. But that plane was shot down!!! Believe it!! I knew it that day! So did everyone else!
@jasonlloyd33 it was not shot down...no eyewitness saw or heard a missile or cannon fire. debris field size and pattern do not support a shoot down. Yes a standing order of shooting down an aircraft in a no fly zone around the White house and surrounding area exist. Passengers brought down 93 before it could be shot down.
This vid claims there were 200 pple onboard United Flt. 93. Flt. 93 was a 757 -- UA 757s don't hold 200 pple. United configuration (at time anyway before cabin remodel) was 24 FC seats, 158 Economy seats plus max crew of 2 pilots and 6 flight attendants. My math shows the maximum souls on board would have been 190.
People all over the world have been affected and thats why people should try to get to the whole truth of of 9/11.
If there has been negligence resulting in the death of loved ones when it neednt have happened and the government is covering it up it needs to be bought out open and these criminals should be punished.
The people who did it and the people covering it up.
so, what you're saying is there are no pictures or videos proving anything you're saying? n why would i go to shanksville? when an 80 ton plane crashes in an open field, it should be obvious.
sorry for your loss. but, it doesn't mean your grandfather died in shanksville due to hijackers. its not hurtful or disrespectful to ask questions. it is ignorant to accept events that don't make sense.
are you people high? 99.99% of plane crashes happen at TAKE OFF and LANDING when they are going at a slower speed. How many crashes have any of us seen that were going 600 MPH and nose dive into the ground, there was debris. The coroner said he stopped being coroner bc he knew the cause of death, he said he seen body parts. Tell the WHOLE story not just the parts you want to!!
@6687Jason "NOTHING that you can distiguish that a plane had crashed." The coroner said," I stopped being coroner after about 20 minutes, because there were no bodies there." No bodies is what he said. He DIDN"T say " The coroner said he stopped being coroner bc he knew the cause of death, he said he seen body parts" Listen,read and repeat correctly!
When scientists and physicists both agree in their contradictions to the governments reasoning behind why the planes completely vanished, you have to ask yourself is your government, which is comprised of politicians, not scientists and physicists, telling the truth about what happened? No, because they aren't using scientific fact and numbers to back up why a plane crash didn't leave a plane behind. I guess we're going to have to live in a world where planes just simply vaporize sometimes.
Cremating a body usually takes close to 2 hours at over 1000 degrees F. The jet fuel would of had to of been burning directly on all of the bodies for that amount of time to have left no traces of anything not to mention all of the heavy steel that all totally gone. Jet fuel simply can not do that. Titanium engines gone. There is just no way.
The thing that made the Flight 93 crash different from every jet crash before that is that those pilots were trying to save the plane. The hijacker intentionally drove that plane straight into the ground at extremely high speed. The result, almost total disintegration. There was plenty of lightweight debris like papers and such that were carried aloft by the wind after upon impact, but human remains and the plane were just fragments at that point.
actually, there are people who have a brain (CT?) and there are people whose job it is to spread lies. people who travel 911 pages defending the official version. is that what you mean?
Armed Forces Institute of Pathology DNA lab, in Rockville, reports: "Investigators have positively identified the remains of another 14 persons aboard United Airlines Flight 93"
To date 34 of the 44 people who were aboard the jetliner crashed Sept. 11. have been identified" "Now we can say for sure we know 34 of the victims and that gives the families, some of whom have held memorial services, more of a sense of closure." (PostGazzette)
I watched "Loose Change", or as I like to call it -"Loose Truth" because there is too much omission. Ex: "Miller says, "I stopped being a coroner after about 20 minutes, because there were no bodies..."
Loose Change ignores:
"It would be nearly an hour before Miller came upon his first trace of a body part"
AND-
"Another 14 victims of Flight 93 identified...
34 of the 44 people who were aboard the jetliner crashed Sept. 11. have been identified" -through bone DNA and dental records etc.
bodies? it was nothing but a ditch in the ground with some smoke. yes, I'm sure Miller found these bodies after he talked to the government and they "corrected" his story. bs.
Hey you dumb fuck. If flight 93 apparently landed in Cleveland. Why dont you go ask the families where there lost moms and dads, aunts and uncles are then if it apparently landed in Cleveland.
how about this for a question? if flight 93 actually crashed in shanksville, where's the bodies, the plane, the luggage, the chairs, etc? it only takes a brain. try using logic instead of blindly believing everything your government tells you moron.
@seeknthetruth Well hey dipshit why dont you figure out where all the people that were killed on that plane. You seem to have this all figured out. Douchebag.
@seeknthetruth If you think Im American and I believe everything everything cnn and the "government" tell me your wrong on both parts. You never did answer my question about where all the missing family members are you punk bitch. Get back to me when you have it all figured out douchebag.
3 for 3. more ignorance. how would i know where the family members are moron? how about this? where's osama? are we even looking for him? wake up moron. and put your helmet back on before you hurt yourself.
@seeknthetruth You tell me where the fuck Osama is, You and your conspiracy douchebag friends need to grow up. btw Im not even American you fucking moron. I dont give a shit about your government.
@seeknthetruth Yeah youre forgetting something once again. Americans have to wear Canadian flags on their backpacks everytime they go to a foreign country so they dont get jumped or killed. What is this? watch?v=xIqcMasfQTk ? Is that supposed to mean seekthetruth is a total douchebag?
i was under the impression that united 93 had 44 passengers. i think this video may be wrong. united 116 was also questionable as to whether or not it had been hikacked. amongst the confusion united may have reported the plane with 200 passengers as flight 93, however it could have actually been flight 116. thats my theory dont yell at me if im wrong
If this all is true..its sad. I wonder what really happen to the 200 ppl. All the men and Women that died on this day are heros to me. i dnt care what people say
I don't see how this became a huge fucking debate. Look at the right sites, the right videos. You know, the ones that actually SHOW everything. You'll discover that all the bodies have been identified, pieces of the plane and the black box were recovered.. What the fuck is the argument here?
The more you dig, & research, and verify the information available on the event of 911, you can't help but to come to the conclusion
911=INSIDE JOB!
Please research for yourself, ALL INFORMATION That has been published.
View it all as propaganda, except photographic and video recordings, made at the time of the event.
Concentrate on the FACTS! that no one disputes, the time line, documents, that have been filed.Act as if you are on a JURY. that is asked if a new investigation is now needed?
This is not the site of a commercial airliner crash, for comparisons check: UA585 crash in colorado springs, nose first into the ground at a high rate of speed, US AIR 427 crashed in pittsburgh nose first into the ground "the human carnage was so extreme authorities declared it a bio-hazard. Wheres the plane, body parts, luggage, seats, anything? This plane was shot down, debris was scattered over an 8 mile area, most pieces were the size of a phonebook. 9/11 truth watch 911 press for truth
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Oh yeah! And Loose Change is total proof for WHAT REALLY happened on September 11, 2001!! For those of you who don't want to believe that a plane CRASHED in Shanksville. I am from that area and I talked to people who had actually witnessed the jet crash into the field. They all have the same eyewitness testimony that was aired on the news that day! Loose Change is full of it!!
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So these 200 people are also part of the conspiracy? Apparently United 93 impacted the ground at a 90 degree angle traveling at 500MPH. What sort of a crash site would that produce? Who knows, this sort of a crash had probably never happen before, there was nothing to compare it to. Same with the twin towers. These were all unique incidents.
Stupid, idiotic conjecture and speculation! The conspiracy you suggest is so complicated as to have no hope of surviving the American press. Think of all the participants, witnesses and employees that came in contact with the crew and aircraft after it supposedly landed...keep it simple..stupid!
This just doesn't add up. If the gov cabal that allowed or enabled 911 needed another plane crash, why wouldn't they simply remote-control a crash, or shoot down a targetted plane (since they could say it was blown-up by terrorists or suffered catastrophic maneuver failure ie. by passenger 'heroism' if needed. WHY go thru the extra-step of diversion to Cleveland with all the 'messy' cleaning-up of loose ends and far-bigger cover-up, along with planting of fake crash & seeding evidence?
Shanksville? This is the most bogus part of the official story, if you had to pick just one. Every single part of the official story is totally problematic and highly suspicious.
A lot of world records happen on 9/11,plane crashes with no evidence but a ditch,3 giant steel structures fall from heat including one that wasn't hit by a plane.A plane explosion generated enough heat to melt steel..A bunch of known terrorist were able to go to an air port,pass check points,board planes and hijack them.The aviation department of the government were training for the exact same even that just happen to be on that day,you can go on and on.
They found the two black boxes of United 93, They released it to the media and the public. y do u think there is so many simulations of it? without it you cant make simulations. and the reason why they havent released the Info on AA11 and UAL 175 is maybe because they dont have it!
Give me a brake. I don't think 93 landed at all. If it say it landed then wear are the people at today. Wear are they now, if you think it landed. If i got of my self I would have let some one know about it.
Fact is. No one knows. Where are the people? You debunkers are so naive. Which is cool I guess, but you people need to understand that evil does exist in this world and it's obvious most of you guys can't imagine REALLY evil stuff. What's wrong with landing it and killing all the people? Not saying that's what happened, but if you're going to ask the question it's obvious you weren't thinking about it.
there was jet fuel there! there were bodies there! google video ''wally miller'' and watch the full 46 minute interview (coroner) ....wtc 1,2,and 7 were demoed however, there IS evidence of that
Just a segment of skin can be identified with todays Technology. bodies dont have to be intact to be identified. Teeth, hair, blood if your lucky. can easily identify a person.
i'd like to dedicate my new video to the memory of lisa beamers husband, who valiantly died crashing flight 93 into a hole which was already there, may he rest in pieces, where ever they may be.
flight 93 - no wreckage, hole in ground since 1994 where engine dug up, and presumably mr. beamer
wtc 7 - freefall
wtc 1 and 2 - molten steel in basements, evidence of thermite
flight 77 - pentagon photo and video footage clearly shows no plane before wall collapsed.
You people make me sick, open your eyes and pay attention to all the evidence out there. Listen to the phone calls made from CELL phones from inside of United 93. You people are stupid to believe that this was only done by some terrorists from another country. 9/11 was an inside job and if you are that stupid to believe the story told by Bush and the News teams than you should seriously do research on your own like I did, and then you will start to believe
"you should seriously do research on your own like I did"
What research did you do on your own?
Did you come across the details of just how many agencies and volunteers were involved at the crash site? Did you uncover any photos of the recovery work?
I would like to hear your answers - shows us all truthers are not liars.
"Did you come across the details of just how many agencies and volunteers were involved at the crash site?"
Like the EPA?
"The soil is being tested for jet fuel, and at least three test wells have been sunk to monitor groundwater, since three nearby homes are served by wells. So far, no contamination has been discovered." Betsy Mallison, a state Department of Environmental Protection Agency spokeswoman (10/03/01)
A little thought I had the other day I wanted to pass by you. Has nothing to do with Flight 93, but a documentary of an eye witness inside the pentagon said he was covered in red liquid after the crash, he thought it was blood at first then he said he found out it was jet fuel. Only problem is they phased out that jet fuel for commercial use in the early 90s. The dye they've been using since the late 90s is blue. What are your thoughts on this, bud?
Have to know about who said this. Context is important, could another substance have contaminated the fuel after it hit the Pentagon. Hard to imagine there was any fuel left after the explosion.
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megamogx 4 months ago
EVERYTHING in this clip - in fact, most of Loose Change - has been thoroughly debunked.
The misquoting of coroner Wally Miller is perhaps the most reprehensible part, suggesting he doesn't believe flight 93 crashed there when he has in fact been crystal clear that it DID.
screwloosechange(dot)blogspot(dot)com/2006/05/loose-screw-2-coroner.html
TimReed22222 4 months ago
@TimReed22222
I really don't think we need your website link to see that there's no wreckage or bodies anywhere. And Flight 93 was approx. 80-100 tons with 44 passengers, right?
muzicmaker2001 4 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 Flt. 93 hit the ground in a nose-down attitude at 500+ mph!! Do you REALLY need an explanation for why no intact bodies were found? That's what Mr. Miller was referring to when he said he ceased being a coroner after 20 minutes - it was perfectly clear what killed those people.
And for the record, wreckage WAS recovered, more than 90% of the plane! Just no big parts - again, for reasons which are perfectly obvious to those not determined to see conspiracy.
TimReed22222 4 months ago
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@muzicmaker2001 Flt. 93 hit the ground in a nose-down attitude at 500+ mph!! Do you REALLY need an explanation for why no intact bodies were found? That's what Mr. Miller was referring to when he said he ceased being a coroner after 20 minutes - it was perfectly clear what killed those people
And for the record, wreckage WAS recovered, more than 90% of the plane! Just no big parts - again, for reasons which are perfectly obvious to those not determined to see conspiracy.
TimReed22222 4 months ago
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@muzicmaker2001 Flt. 93 hit the ground in a nose-down attitude at 500+ mph!! Do you REALLY need an explanation for why no intact bodies were found? That's what Mr. Miller was referring to when he said he ceased being a coroner after 20 minutes - it was perfectly clear what killed those people.
And for the record, wreckage WAS recovered, more than 90% of the plane! Just no big parts - again, for reasons which are perfectly obvious to those not determined to see conspiracy.
TimReed22222 4 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 Flt. 93 hit the ground in a nose-down attitude at 500+ mph!! Do you REALLY need an explanation for why no intact bodies were found? That's what Mr. Miller was referring to when he said he ceased being a coroner after 20 minutes - it was perfectly clear what killed those people.
And for the record, wreckage WAS recovered, more than 90% of the plane! Just no big parts - again, for reasons which are perfectly obvious to those not determined to see conspiracy.
TimReed22222 4 months ago
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@muzicmaker2001 Flt 93 hit the ground in a nose-down attitude at 500+ mph!! Do you REALLY need an explanation for why no intact bodies were found? That's what Mr. Miller was referring to when he said he ceased being a coroner after 20 minutes - it was perfectly clear what killed those people.
And for the record, wreckage WAS recovered, more than 90% of the plane! Just no big parts - again, for reasons which are perfectly obvious to those not determined to see conspiracy.
TimReed22222 4 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 Flt 93 hit the ground in a nose-down attitude at 500+ mph!! Do you REALLY need an explanation for why no intact bodies were found? That's what Mr. Miller was referring to when he said he ceased being a coroner after 20 minutes - it was perfectly clear what killed those people.
And for the record, wreckage WAS recovered, more than 90% of the plane! Just no big parts - again, for reasons which are perfectly obvious to anyone not determined to see conspiracy.
TimReed22222 4 months ago
@TimReed22222
"more than 90% of the plane WAS recovered"
Please post evidence of this. I hope its not the RKowens clip where he actually states 95% of the plane was recovered but doesn't show any proof of this. See my discussion with fellow debunker dachamp171.
muzicmaker2001 4 months ago
@TimReed22222
Here's some other plane crashes with the plane hit the ground nose down at a high rate of speed...compare.
killtown*911review*org/flight93/crash-comparisons*html
muzicmaker2001 4 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 None of those incidents are identical to flight 93; many aren't even similar (different planes, some broke up in mid-air, etc.) Comparing this crash to that & arguing that one can't be real because it doesn't look exactly like this one is bogus logic.
Numerous witnesses saw 93 go down. Debris was recovered, including both black boxes. Remains of all of the passengers were eventually identified via DNA testing.
Flight 93 went down in Shanksville. Deal with it.
TimReed22222 4 months ago
@TimReed22222
Here we go with the "once in a lifetime" event that can not be compared to anything else. Its a aluminum plane hitting a hard surface. That's it. There are numerous examples of this but NONE that resemble the lack of debris left by Flight 93. Its time to deal with that.
muzicmaker2001 4 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 Eyewitnesses. First responders. Cleanup crews. The coroner. ATC (who tracked flt 93 to the end). Investigators. Family members.
Can ALL of those people be lying?
TimReed22222 4 months ago
@TimReed22222
And where is 90% of the plane again?
muzicmaker2001 4 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 "And where is 90% of the plane again?"
On the day? Lots of it was buried & had to be dug up; I've seen pictures of an engine, the black boxes, pieces of fuselage, etc. but I can't provide you with an inventory, sorry. Obviously I'm accepting the reports of the officials who cleaned up the site; I understand that you don't trust them but I can't help that. What I'm asking YOU for is evidence that the 95% figure is wrong.
TimReed22222 4 months ago
@TimReed22222
'What I'm asking YOU for is evidence that the 95% figure is wrong"
Well, just look at the crash site. So, if Flight 93 is only 80 tons. Where is 76 tons? An engine and a fuselage? And I trust the evidence in front of my eyes. Unless the clean up crews immediately picked up 80 tons of plane plus 44 passengers/bodies?
muzicmaker2001 4 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 "So, if Flight 93 is only 80 tons. Where is 76 tons?"
So ... the SUM TOTAL of your argument is: I can't see 76 tons worth of debris in the photos & videos I've looked at.
And you REALLY think that's a compelling argument? You think that trumps all the witnesses, investigators, etc.?
Good luck with that.
TimReed22222 4 months ago
@TimReed22222
"And you REALLY think that's a compelling argument?"
The evidence speaks for itself. No witnesses needed here. But, if many people stated that 1+1=3, what would you believe? Once more, can you post the evidence of this 76 tons? Hw about even 20 tons?
muzicmaker2001 4 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 I believe the 95% figure comes from the FBI, though if you want to argue a smaller figure, that's fine - as long as the figure is more than 0% :-) And no, obviously I can't prove this myself.
I'm just far more inclined to believe the FBI than someone who believes the eyewitnesses, first responders, investigators, air traffic controllers, family members & cleanup crews are all lying.
TimReed22222 4 months ago
@TimReed22222
The 90% number came from you, but you can't post evidence of this? And I believe my eyes...
muzicmaker2001 4 months ago
@TimReed22222 were you not listening to the interview??....the guy said there was nothing there, all you could see was dirt and ash....so where is the 90% they recovered? can you provide a source??
lumpfish99 4 months ago
these air telephone calls could have come from the real flights before the planes were disposed of over the sea, with the cover of military exercises and a hurricane to hide their tracks in the confusion of the day.
After that the remote controlled planes and missiles took over.
We will never forget you and will strive for the truth and see justice done .
RIP
TyroneSandalphon 4 months ago
This whole video is one retarded lie! Just like every other twoofer video! Lie's, Lie's Lie's!
kanukster 4 months ago
This raises some severe questions. Planes do NOT just vaporize when they crash (absent a nuclear bomb going off when they crash), there is ALWAYS.... A L W A Y S debris and body parts left.
Bones, at least.
Lerianis10 4 months ago 2
---well-------anyhow,they are building a really swell memorial whether it did crash or not-----(and as long as the paychecks don't bounce,Somerset County finally has some work-----)
whitewasp 4 months ago
/watch?v=j5FhQc-LJ-o
/watch?v=5qFsjdymqSk
megamogx 4 months ago in playlist fishy 911
Question, where are the bodies?
Leon112006 4 months ago
No one will ever know the answers but WHY would the Mayor or United Airlines LIE about Flight 93 LANDING if it didn't and why would the media report it? Questions left untold. As far as people saying it 'vaporized' because it was traveling at 550mph when it hit, jets have hit mountains at speed and there were ALWAYS bodies (parts at least) to be found. Google that.
Tucson76 5 months ago
If the paasengers landed safely; why has not a one of them ever turned up with a boarding card or reported that that was their flight? This was such a huge story, one would say, "Hey wait, I'm alive!" Are you saying the Feds landed them safely, then spirited them off somewhere and they are still there 10 years later?!?!
grodhagen 5 months ago
@grodhagen they might of just killed em
mrkushlover 5 months ago
@mrkushlover
That makes littles sense, as there are too many risks of discovery or something going wrong. It would be so much safer for any alleged conspiracy to shoot the plan down. So many "Truther" "explanations" requires great numbers of participants. Absurdly too many.
It's doable in fiction to murder > 100 innocents, but finding REAL people to do it and stay mum 10 years is very unlikely.
Don't let "what if" and "maybe" weigh more than the known facts, no matter how few.
grodhagen 5 months ago
In the Air Force, as a firefighter, We all witnessed a B-52 Bomber hit the ground nose first at extreme speed. The plane exploded as it hit the ground. Every crew member was recovered, as well as equipment, along with seats, cushions and even personal effects. All this even after a tremendous explosion and fireball. If that was flight 93, big IF, it was, without question, blown out of the sky!
xboostedbirdx 5 months ago
IN EVERY SINGLE AIRPLANE CRASH EVER..................... THERE IS ALWAYS, I REPEAT ALWAYS WRECKAGE. OF EVERY SINGLE PLANE CRASH EVER IN WORLD HISTORY NO MATTER, I REPEAT NO MATTER HOW EXTREME, THERE IS ALWAYS WRECKAGE......... WHY NON HERE????
jonescool1fly 6 months ago
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All things went to hell when Dick Cheney stepped down as CEO of Halliburton to run for Vice President in 2000. After he took office, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld gave Cheney the authority to take over NORAD. The first time in history this has ever happened. Fast forward to 9/11 and guess who is standing NORAD down during the alleged attacks? That`s right, Dick Cheney. Guess who was running identical hijacking drills the morning of 9/11? That`s right, Dick Cheney.
9/11 was an inside job.
stingray8881 6 months ago
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Here is another crash video for YOU PARANOID CONSPIRATIONISTS :
In 15/7/2009, a plane crashed in Iran, it made a huge crater and rescuers just found littles debries, no plane, no body, just very little parts .
==> EXACTLY AS FLIGHT 93 DID .
So ... Will you say that this iranian plane never existed ???
watch?v=FdtJjuhFH6E
STUPID PARANOIDS !!!!!
laminarwing 7 months ago
THESE PEOPLE ARE OK. They are ,
dimensionalyspeaking 8 months ago
Lt. col rick gibney shot the plane down and he was awarded an air medal it in north dakota.
dcsbzk06 9 months ago
the plane was shot down asshole over pennsylvania search youtube for "mineta flight 93 shot down flv. " It shows government officials confirm that bush gave orders to shoot down the plane. Your video sucks ass
dcsbzk06 9 months ago
the mark on the ground WAS ALREADY THERE ACCOURDING 2 SATERLIGHT PHOTOS. bloody hell there is just a small creator in the ground
drifter402 9 months ago
safe and all you doing is sitting here thinking of dumb ass reason of why didnt this happen and the government did this. YOU DONT LIKE OUR GOVERNMENT? get the hell out of America and go find another country thats run by a better one......and i bet you, you never will. get your head out of your asses. pay respect for those who passed in the plane crashes and those fighting your YOUR freedom AND safety...dumb asses.
moniluv410 9 months ago
for all of you idiots who THINK this is a conspiracy..... 85% of the damn plane is STILL on the ground. they actually hit the ground going 683 mpfreakinh. has soon has the plane hit it disintegrated. MEANING all bodies were instantly gone and burned by time response teams got there. im pretty sure when you hit the ground going that damn fast everything goes EVERYWHERE you conspiracy people are pathetic to sit here talkin all this god damn mes when our people are over there fighting to keep us
moniluv410 9 months ago 2
lol that passenger plane cannot obtain those speeds , do some research before you comment, you sound silly
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@jasonlloyd33 it was not shot down...no eyewitness saw or heard a missile or cannon fire. debris field size and pattern do not support a shoot down. Yes a standing order of shooting down an aircraft in a no fly zone around the White house and surrounding area exist. Passengers brought down 93 before it could be shot down.
lcspies 10 months ago
95% of the plane was recovered lmao u ppl are idiots, these ppl in this video are jus kids loose change is some fuckin kids
dachamp171 11 months ago
@dachamp171
99%? Really? Care to prove that? I hope you didn't get your "facts" from RKOwen's video that doesn't even show 5 tons of plane material anywhere.
muzicmaker2001 11 months ago
@dachamp171 i said 95% u idiot, most crashed happen at take off but this didnt crash at take off now did it u idiot, it was upside down goin 500mph or some shit like that, and with 9 ppl who saw it happen... or did BUsh pay them to say they saw it hahahahaha
dachamp171 11 months ago
@dachamp171
Oh my bad. 95%. Ok, where is the evidence of the 95% of an 80-100 ton plane? Can you provide this evidence in your next post? I've never seen it.
muzicmaker2001 11 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 ok let me put it this way, when there is a shooting anywhere and the murderer leaves the gun there so he cant be tracked down, the police take the gun n its pretty much never seen again, same with the plane debris and same with the black boxes from Flight 77 and 93 they were found n never seen again but the FBI n government dont care wat we think thats why we never seen it after
dachamp171 11 months ago
@dachamp171
So, there is no evidence of 95% of Flight 93? That's all you had to say. And you called ME an idiot?
muzicmaker2001 11 months ago 12
@muzicmaker2001 hey todd beamer, call your wife for crying out loud :) gimme a break.
pete5668 11 months ago
@dachamp171 just sounds like your making shit up with absolutely nothing to support your logic..i wouldnt be calling other people idiots for being a little skeptical of this theory of your especially when it seems that you arnt even able to find anything to back yourself up..youve got to do an awful lot of research before even thinking about contributing to any conspiracy theory, otherwise you make your self look like a total ass..muzicmaker has obviously done his homework and you should stfu
empred 9 months ago
@dachamp171 i think theres a difference between a fucking murder and a mass homicide u fucking ignorant shit, they went to the scene 20 min more r less after the crash the goverment removed 95% of the evidence that quick? hmm theyre pretty fucking fast,
mrkushlover 5 months ago 4
@mrkushlover hey guess wat, u know why they recovered it that quick? cuz thats their job! XD idiot! hey wat is ur educational level? 2nd grade maybe??
dachamp171 5 months ago
@dachamp171
Uhh, you do know you can't recover/move/whatever you're saying 80 tons of plane and 44 bodies that quick, right? It takes weeks. The crash scene was shown on 911 and there is no sign of the plane or the bodies anywhere. Please wake up...
muzicmaker2001 5 months ago 7
@muzicmaker2001 WEEKS???? HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA ur funny, the plane hit the ground blew into a bunch of SMALL pieces thats why they lifted it so quick, u damn conspiracy heckler n seriously wat is ur educational level?? i wanna kno
dachamp171 5 months ago
@dachamp171
'SMALL pieces thats why they lifted it so quick"
But, you original stated 95% of the plane was recovered? That's about 80 tons, right? Since no significant wreckage is shown in any footage, in your mind, was this 80 tons of plane wreckage recovered before any footage was seen? Even before the pile stopped smoking? Funny stuff..
muzicmaker2001 5 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 yes 95% of the plane was recovered there is no evidence of flight 93 being shot down or not being there at all, IT WAS there, there is no conspiracy at all ur jus immature, and the pieces were collected to see what it was and it was determined to be Flight 93
dachamp171 5 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 This shows you how blinded these people are. They rather believe in bullshit.
michaelsterling37 5 months ago in playlist The Farse
@michaelsterling37
Yes, its sad.
muzicmaker2001 5 months ago
@dachamp171 is it there job to hide it from the public?
mrkushlover 5 months ago
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@dachamp171 where can we find the photos that stand behind your comment?
2020starman 7 months ago
@dachamp171 and wheres the bodies
jsmith2144 7 months ago
@jsmith2144 look at watch?v=FdtJjuhFH6E
laminarwing 7 months ago
@jsmith2144 the plane hit the ground while going over 550 mph, jet fuel makes the explosion even worse, what in the blue hell makes u think there should be bodies????? RETARD :D :D :D :D
dachamp171 7 months ago
@dachamp171 oh i dont know, maybe the bodies at every other plane crash. its very easy for people to die, but extremely difficult to destroy bodies.
jsmith2144 7 months ago
It's odd that the current comment count happens to be 666.
Anyhow, you people who claim this to be a conspiracy are absolutely nuts. Do you honestly believe that the US government would dare to attack its own people and on such a major scale. The citizens of the US would go absolutely mental and overthrow the government if they ever found out there was ever such a conspiracy.
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COWVIN76 1 year ago
So let me guesss this straight. so all those wives who talked to there husbands on flight 93 were lying/ they really landed at another airport. NOW i get it. OMG,you people should be ashamed of your selves. All those kids never again saw there fathers
gladheateher4now 1 year ago
said they never found any body parts or that they didn,t find any DNA samples not 1
wllmdnldsn 1 year ago
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Theres no proff flight 93 crashed Shanksfil? well heres the proff
1 95 percennt was found.
2 it was tracked all the way to it inpacted.
3 dozons of witnesses saw it,s crash
4 they found the remains of all 44 passangers
and what truthers use as evidence is millar saying i have not seen a drop of blood not a drop well if u look up, what wally miller really said you,ll find he himself telling u something different, miller was picking up bodies and all the people who came to 93 not 1 of them
wllmdnldsn 1 year ago
they where kid napped. plan landed in a hiden tar mak. they were take to iserial. plan was flown reotly. 3 r still alive a womon wereing a muron teashor , man with front mouth hair , the other i dont now they needed these 3 for a richual. all the rest where gast and dropt in acid the skuls where used buy the 3 to trow them in a pool with the 1 who i can only call the anti crihst after ward the 3 where shot there botys trown in the pool . it was sumentid over.. all i know im sorry
donaldstafford 1 year ago
how come not one person from flight 93 called their family when they were on the ground. The first thing we all do is call someone when we get service. No family said they got a call from a passenger on 93 when they were in the airport.
jamesgambino 1 year ago 4
did it not crash in toronto?
darklordxxx 1 year ago
In shanksville there are memorials up and I've been there plenty of times... A very good friend of mine seen the plane very low coming across 219 that September day and it shouldn't of been an I'm defiantly sure the government had something to do with all of this ..
Sarahcon814 1 year ago
they found passangers DNA but there were no plane parts found ever ?? how is that right ?
marco11902 1 year ago
(This was done to convey a positive hero complex) and cover up the outrage US citizens would have over the shootdown. Not only that: Who would fly after such a thing? If a plane suddenly veered off course, would it suddenly be shot down as well? Also after almost 10 years, NO memorial OF ANY KIND exists in Shanksville? Why? To keep things quiet and pay as little attention to it as possible. It would only take maybe 100 grand by the govt to have erected such a necessary memorial.
GSXRMark99 1 year ago
It has been factually stated by Dick Cheney that he ordered the plane shot down. He has admitted this on national TV on Meet the Press. He even stated after the plane was down, he felt terrible. VERY SHORTLY AFTER the fact, a ridiculous story to insult the intelligence of the American people stated that miraculously passengers overtook the terrorists, and they crashed it.
GSXRMark99 1 year ago
I live within 20 miles from Shanksville and Somerset County PA. I know many of the police and fireman who were called out there on September 11, 2001. The plane was most DEFINITELY shot from the sky by the US military. Not to down play what may have happened with the folk heroes , like Todd Beamer who were on board, that the Wag the Dog spin doctors of the Bush White House tried to romanticize. But that plane was shot down!!! Believe it!! I knew it that day! So did everyone else!
jasonlloyd33 1 year ago
@jasonlloyd33 it was not shot down...no eyewitness saw or heard a missile or cannon fire. debris field size and pattern do not support a shoot down. Yes a standing order of shooting down an aircraft in a no fly zone around the White house and surrounding area exist. Passengers brought down 93 before it could be shot down.
lcspies 1 year ago
OH NO.! I LIVE IN PITTSBURGH.!!!!!!] GOVERMENT IS DOING SOME SHIT
Naema11 1 year ago
certainly didnt crash in that field, the pilots of the fighter jets said they shot it down, its probably at the bottom of the ocean
wellifthemediasaysit 1 year ago
This vid claims there were 200 pple onboard United Flt. 93. Flt. 93 was a 757 -- UA 757s don't hold 200 pple. United configuration (at time anyway before cabin remodel) was 24 FC seats, 158 Economy seats plus max crew of 2 pilots and 6 flight attendants. My math shows the maximum souls on board would have been 190.
anthonisaac 1 year ago
@2fnsweet Im sorry for your loss beleive me .
People all over the world have been affected and thats why people should try to get to the whole truth of of 9/11.
If there has been negligence resulting in the death of loved ones when it neednt have happened and the government is covering it up it needs to be bought out open and these criminals should be punished.
The people who did it and the people covering it up.
zenoist2 1 year ago
@2fnsweet
so, what you're saying is there are no pictures or videos proving anything you're saying? n why would i go to shanksville? when an 80 ton plane crashes in an open field, it should be obvious.
seeknthetruth 1 year ago
@2fnsweet
sorry for your loss. but, it doesn't mean your grandfather died in shanksville due to hijackers. its not hurtful or disrespectful to ask questions. it is ignorant to accept events that don't make sense.
seeknthetruth 1 year ago
are you people high? 99.99% of plane crashes happen at TAKE OFF and LANDING when they are going at a slower speed. How many crashes have any of us seen that were going 600 MPH and nose dive into the ground, there was debris. The coroner said he stopped being coroner bc he knew the cause of death, he said he seen body parts. Tell the WHOLE story not just the parts you want to!!
6687Jason 1 year ago
@6687Jason
"How many crashes have any of us seen that were going 600 MPH and nose dive into the ground"
These plane crashes...compare.
killtown*911review*org/flight93/crash-comparisons*html
muzicmaker2001 1 year ago
@6687Jason "NOTHING that you can distiguish that a plane had crashed."
Souls4Freedom 1 year ago
@6687Jason "NOTHING that you can distiguish that a plane had crashed." The coroner said," I stopped being coroner after about 20 minutes, because there were no bodies there." No bodies is what he said. He DIDN"T say " The coroner said he stopped being coroner bc he knew the cause of death, he said he seen body parts" Listen,read and repeat correctly!
Souls4Freedom 1 year ago
and the terrifying truth?: AMERICA DID IT!! :P
e6d6d6yheartagram 1 year ago
@e6d6d6yheartagram Yup, spot on
donutmoron 1 year ago
There should have been a LOT of wreckage at all of the crash sites on 9/11
No wreckage = no plane .
zenoist2 1 year ago
When scientists and physicists both agree in their contradictions to the governments reasoning behind why the planes completely vanished, you have to ask yourself is your government, which is comprised of politicians, not scientists and physicists, telling the truth about what happened? No, because they aren't using scientific fact and numbers to back up why a plane crash didn't leave a plane behind. I guess we're going to have to live in a world where planes just simply vaporize sometimes.
GeneralMaximus4 1 year ago
Cremating a body usually takes close to 2 hours at over 1000 degrees F. The jet fuel would of had to of been burning directly on all of the bodies for that amount of time to have left no traces of anything not to mention all of the heavy steel that all totally gone. Jet fuel simply can not do that. Titanium engines gone. There is just no way.
GeneralMaximus4 1 year ago
The thing that made the Flight 93 crash different from every jet crash before that is that those pilots were trying to save the plane. The hijacker intentionally drove that plane straight into the ground at extremely high speed. The result, almost total disintegration. There was plenty of lightweight debris like papers and such that were carried aloft by the wind after upon impact, but human remains and the plane were just fragments at that point.
Synthetrix 1 year ago
@Synthetrix
where do all of these 911 trolls come from? do they make 'em in a factory?
seeknthetruth 1 year ago
@seeknthetruth From the completely opposite place that conspiracy theorists come from.
Synthetrix 1 year ago
@Synthetrix
actually, there are people who have a brain (CT?) and there are people whose job it is to spread lies. people who travel 911 pages defending the official version. is that what you mean?
seeknthetruth 1 year ago
10/27/2001
Another 14 victims of Flight 93 identified
Armed Forces Institute of Pathology DNA lab, in Rockville, reports: "Investigators have positively identified the remains of another 14 persons aboard United Airlines Flight 93"
To date 34 of the 44 people who were aboard the jetliner crashed Sept. 11. have been identified" "Now we can say for sure we know 34 of the victims and that gives the families, some of whom have held memorial services, more of a sense of closure." (PostGazzette)
DarkStarAZ 1 year ago
@DarkStarAZ
all that from a ditch in the ground? really? where the bodies buried deep underground? 911 troll, stop it.
seeknthetruth 1 year ago
I watched "Loose Change", or as I like to call it -"Loose Truth" because there is too much omission. Ex: "Miller says, "I stopped being a coroner after about 20 minutes, because there were no bodies..."
Loose Change ignores:
"It would be nearly an hour before Miller came upon his first trace of a body part"
AND-
"Another 14 victims of Flight 93 identified...
34 of the 44 people who were aboard the jetliner crashed Sept. 11. have been identified" -through bone DNA and dental records etc.
DarkStarAZ 1 year ago
@DarkStarAZ
bodies? it was nothing but a ditch in the ground with some smoke. yes, I'm sure Miller found these bodies after he talked to the government and they "corrected" his story. bs.
seeknthetruth 1 year ago
Hey you dumb fuck. If flight 93 apparently landed in Cleveland. Why dont you go ask the families where there lost moms and dads, aunts and uncles are then if it apparently landed in Cleveland.
zdurrant 1 year ago
@zdurrant
how about this for a question? if flight 93 actually crashed in shanksville, where's the bodies, the plane, the luggage, the chairs, etc? it only takes a brain. try using logic instead of blindly believing everything your government tells you moron.
seeknthetruth 1 year ago
@seeknthetruth Well hey dipshit why dont you figure out where all the people that were killed on that plane. You seem to have this all figured out. Douchebag.
zdurrant 1 year ago
@zdurrant
you probably believe that there were wmds in iraq also. what a moron..
seeknthetruth 1 year ago
@seeknthetruth If you think Im American and I believe everything everything cnn and the "government" tell me your wrong on both parts. You never did answer my question about where all the missing family members are you punk bitch. Get back to me when you have it all figured out douchebag.
zdurrant 1 year ago
@zdurrant
3 for 3. more ignorance. how would i know where the family members are moron? how about this? where's osama? are we even looking for him? wake up moron. and put your helmet back on before you hurt yourself.
seeknthetruth 1 year ago
@seeknthetruth You tell me where the fuck Osama is, You and your conspiracy douchebag friends need to grow up. btw Im not even American you fucking moron. I dont give a shit about your government.
zdurrant 1 year ago
@zdurrant
ok, you're not american, but you still need a helmet to wear outside the border. compare moron..
watch?v=xIqcMasfQTk
seeknthetruth 1 year ago
@seeknthetruth Yeah youre forgetting something once again. Americans have to wear Canadian flags on their backpacks everytime they go to a foreign country so they dont get jumped or killed. What is this? watch?v=xIqcMasfQTk ? Is that supposed to mean seekthetruth is a total douchebag?
zdurrant 1 year ago
@zdurrant
I wouldn't wear a Canadian flag anywhere
DarkStarAZ 1 year ago
@DarkStarAZ Then youre a total dumbass then aren't you DarkStarz? Fuckin moron.
BeerisAwesome2 1 year ago
i was under the impression that united 93 had 44 passengers. i think this video may be wrong. united 116 was also questionable as to whether or not it had been hikacked. amongst the confusion united may have reported the plane with 200 passengers as flight 93, however it could have actually been flight 116. thats my theory dont yell at me if im wrong
vivalaryan54 1 year ago
I WAS THERE, yes it did crash in Shanksville!
mandtconstruct 1 year ago
@mandtconstruct
yes, we were all there...that's it, that's the ticket
seeknthetruth 1 year ago
@seeknthetruth Do some more research buddy you're messin' with families of DEAD PEOPLE with all of this trash!
mandtconstruct 1 year ago
@mandtconstruct
already have and its you disrespecting the victims by lying your ass off
seeknthetruth 1 year ago
@seeknthetruth Bud.......... watch my channel for the next week or so and I'll show you a few things.
While I DO NOT know what happened on the plane......... I DO KNOW what was on the ground!
mandtconstruct 1 year ago
If this all is true..its sad. I wonder what really happen to the 200 ppl. All the men and Women that died on this day are heros to me. i dnt care what people say
Jordan2358 1 year ago
I don't see how this became a huge fucking debate. Look at the right sites, the right videos. You know, the ones that actually SHOW everything. You'll discover that all the bodies have been identified, pieces of the plane and the black box were recovered.. What the fuck is the argument here?
poopjuice0 1 year ago
ya know what would help end the arguement? actually posting these videos you speak of showing the plane wreckage, bodies, black box, etc?
seeknthetruth 1 year ago
Can you give us the link?
AJOPELON 1 year ago
The more you dig, & research, and verify the information available on the event of 911, you can't help but to come to the conclusion
911=INSIDE JOB!
Please research for yourself, ALL INFORMATION That has been published.
View it all as propaganda, except photographic and video recordings, made at the time of the event.
Concentrate on the FACTS! that no one disputes, the time line, documents, that have been filed.Act as if you are on a JURY. that is asked if a new investigation is now needed?
MajorBuckSnort 1 year ago 2
the plane was shot down debris was found over a 35mile radious
vizeybaby15 1 year ago
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Ash are the burned victims. A plane did crash.
jeremiewatson 2 years ago
This is not the site of a commercial airliner crash, for comparisons check: UA585 crash in colorado springs, nose first into the ground at a high rate of speed, US AIR 427 crashed in pittsburgh nose first into the ground "the human carnage was so extreme authorities declared it a bio-hazard. Wheres the plane, body parts, luggage, seats, anything? This plane was shot down, debris was scattered over an 8 mile area, most pieces were the size of a phonebook. 9/11 truth watch 911 press for truth
babybluesnowden 2 years ago 7
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davemichaelis 2 years ago
government bullsh!it.
wccoffee1 2 years ago
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Oh yeah! And Loose Change is total proof for WHAT REALLY happened on September 11, 2001!! For those of you who don't want to believe that a plane CRASHED in Shanksville. I am from that area and I talked to people who had actually witnessed the jet crash into the field. They all have the same eyewitness testimony that was aired on the news that day! Loose Change is full of it!!
jazzfan5000 2 years ago
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So these 200 people are also part of the conspiracy? Apparently United 93 impacted the ground at a 90 degree angle traveling at 500MPH. What sort of a crash site would that produce? Who knows, this sort of a crash had probably never happen before, there was nothing to compare it to. Same with the twin towers. These were all unique incidents.
MILISA99 2 years ago
My guess is it probably should resemble these crashes:
killtown*911review*org/flight93/crash-comparisons*html
muzicmaker2001 2 years ago
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exedron 2 years ago
Stupid, idiotic conjecture and speculation! The conspiracy you suggest is so complicated as to have no hope of surviving the American press. Think of all the participants, witnesses and employees that came in contact with the crew and aircraft after it supposedly landed...keep it simple..stupid!
YakAV8R 2 years ago
This just doesn't add up. If the gov cabal that allowed or enabled 911 needed another plane crash, why wouldn't they simply remote-control a crash, or shoot down a targetted plane (since they could say it was blown-up by terrorists or suffered catastrophic maneuver failure ie. by passenger 'heroism' if needed. WHY go thru the extra-step of diversion to Cleveland with all the 'messy' cleaning-up of loose ends and far-bigger cover-up, along with planting of fake crash & seeding evidence?
starmanskye 2 years ago
That was plan 'B', this plane was probably supposed to hit WTC7.
PostToastie 2 years ago
@PostToastie OH NOW, that is such a brilliant statement! Idiot!
jazzfan5000 1 year ago
If you honestly believe this then you truely do lack common sense and wisdom.
Dsmalldes 2 years ago
actually, it hitted a field near shanksville, PA, cause the passengers were struggling with the terrorist
every passenger on that plane died as heros
WorldToyWrestling 2 years ago
because it was a missle not a plane you fucking retard
utubelurkr 2 years ago
wow never been called a retard by a second grader before, first for everything I guess. My question was more sarcasm Einstein.
SwineFluVideo 2 years ago
so why hasn't any of the passengers come forward?
SwineFluVideo 2 years ago
Shanksville? This is the most bogus part of the official story, if you had to pick just one. Every single part of the official story is totally problematic and highly suspicious.
iconoclast911 2 years ago 3
A lot of world records happen on 9/11,plane crashes with no evidence but a ditch,3 giant steel structures fall from heat including one that wasn't hit by a plane.A plane explosion generated enough heat to melt steel..A bunch of known terrorist were able to go to an air port,pass check points,board planes and hijack them.The aviation department of the government were training for the exact same even that just happen to be on that day,you can go on and on.
Shadowlooker12 2 years ago 18
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CPVideoMaker 2 years ago
is there info on any black boxes on any of the planes no so ask why
kathy8757 2 years ago 2
They found the two black boxes of United 93, They released it to the media and the public. y do u think there is so many simulations of it? without it you cant make simulations. and the reason why they havent released the Info on AA11 and UAL 175 is maybe because they dont have it!
UAL4ever 2 years ago
wasnt going to the white house :P the capital building was its target (if he doesnt even knows this why the hell do so many people by into his bs...)
911letsroll 2 years ago
Give me a brake. I don't think 93 landed at all. If it say it landed then wear are the people at today. Wear are they now, if you think it landed. If i got of my self I would have let some one know about it.
bigal2195407 2 years ago
Fact is. No one knows. Where are the people? You debunkers are so naive. Which is cool I guess, but you people need to understand that evil does exist in this world and it's obvious most of you guys can't imagine REALLY evil stuff. What's wrong with landing it and killing all the people? Not saying that's what happened, but if you're going to ask the question it's obvious you weren't thinking about it.
bweazel 2 years ago
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Denierbud11 2 years ago
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"You debunkers are so naive"
Coming from the side with no tangible evidence, talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
Denierbud11 2 years ago
there was jet fuel there! there were bodies there! google video ''wally miller'' and watch the full 46 minute interview (coroner) ....wtc 1,2,and 7 were demoed however, there IS evidence of that
kennyd203 2 years ago
No one is saying a plane didn't crash, but I've never heard of bodies. I'll look into it. Thanks for the info.
bweazel 2 years ago
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Denierbud11 2 years ago
The remains were identified through DNA. There were no intact bodies due to the nature and violence of the crash, but the remains were identified
Denierbud11 2 years ago
Just a segment of skin can be identified with todays Technology. bodies dont have to be intact to be identified. Teeth, hair, blood if your lucky. can easily identify a person.
UAL4ever 2 years ago
Yes, DNA is amazing
did you have a point?
Denierbud11 2 years ago
nvm i take back the comment i misread it.
UAL4ever 2 years ago
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i'd like to dedicate my new video to the memory of lisa beamers husband, who valiantly died crashing flight 93 into a hole which was already there, may he rest in pieces, where ever they may be.
flight 93 - no wreckage, hole in ground since 1994 where engine dug up, and presumably mr. beamer
wtc 7 - freefall
wtc 1 and 2 - molten steel in basements, evidence of thermite
flight 77 - pentagon photo and video footage clearly shows no plane before wall collapsed.
9/11 - INSIDE JOB
EarthsGravitySucks 2 years ago
Truthers = seeing what you want to see
UAL4ever 2 years ago
You people make me sick, open your eyes and pay attention to all the evidence out there. Listen to the phone calls made from CELL phones from inside of United 93. You people are stupid to believe that this was only done by some terrorists from another country. 9/11 was an inside job and if you are that stupid to believe the story told by Bush and the News teams than you should seriously do research on your own like I did, and then you will start to believe
jarheadxl 3 years ago 4
"you should seriously do research on your own like I did"
What research did you do on your own?
Did you come across the details of just how many agencies and volunteers were involved at the crash site? Did you uncover any photos of the recovery work?
I would like to hear your answers - shows us all truthers are not liars.
Denierbud11 2 years ago
"Did you come across the details of just how many agencies and volunteers were involved at the crash site?"
Like the EPA?
"The soil is being tested for jet fuel, and at least three test wells have been sunk to monitor groundwater, since three nearby homes are served by wells. So far, no contamination has been discovered." Betsy Mallison, a state Department of Environmental Protection Agency spokeswoman (10/03/01)
muzicmaker2001 2 years ago
Which means exactly what it says, there was no CONTAMINATION of the groundwater - it does not conclude there was no jet fuel found.
Do try to read the entire quote.
next ...
Denierbud11 2 years ago
A little thought I had the other day I wanted to pass by you. Has nothing to do with Flight 93, but a documentary of an eye witness inside the pentagon said he was covered in red liquid after the crash, he thought it was blood at first then he said he found out it was jet fuel. Only problem is they phased out that jet fuel for commercial use in the early 90s. The dye they've been using since the late 90s is blue. What are your thoughts on this, bud?
bweazel 2 years ago
Have to know about who said this. Context is important, could another substance have contaminated the fuel after it hit the Pentagon. Hard to imagine there was any fuel left after the explosion.
Denierbud11 2 years ago
I'll see if I can find the video again. If I do I'll msg the link to you.
bweazel 2 years ago
@muzicmaker2001 jet fuel evaporates quickly
pete5668 1 year ago