It's funny...I am an old Baltimore Colt fan and had so much venom for the AFL for years and years. Even claimed that SBIII was fixed. But in retrospect, I LOVED the AFL. It was a great league and while the early days they didn't have many great players, they quickly got REALLY good. But I loved that they were THINKERS. The AFL is as important to current NFL history as NFL history is. LONG LIFE my brothers I used to hate.
@GaryBoy54 If the AFL-NFL merger never happened, Pittsburgh would be in the NFL. I don't think the AFL had any teams that would have beaten the Steelers after 1972.
Also, the first Super Bowl after the merger were against Dallas (NFL) and Baltimore (NFL).
I always thought it was funny that some of the top pro wrestlers were in the AFL. Ernie "The Big Cat" Ladd, Wahoo McDaniel, "Superstar" Billy Graham, and Verlon Biggs.
If this ever comes out in DVD, I'm first in line. The AFL was the best football on the planet! I'm sorry the two leagues merged, although I understand why they did.
Cleveland was part of the All-America Football Conference. The AAFC ran from 1946 until 1949. Cleveland won all four of the AAFC championship games (beating the S.F. 49ers the last two times). In 1950, the Browns, 49ers and Baltimore Colts were brought into the NFL. Browns won championship its first two years in the NFL. AAFC Colts folded. New Colts started in 1953.
@caputobd , if you are referring to #32 at around 0:21 on the sidelines shaking hands with the guy with the mic, that is not Jim Brown. You may have made that association because they showed Paul Brown just before that, and Brown was the coach/owner of the Bengals...but that wasn't Jim Brown. Try freezing the video at that point and you can tell by looking at him...I have no idea who it is but I know what Jim Brown looks like. :D
@jgboys1 It is going to be aired on the NFL network on Friday January 8th. I don't know if they will show all 5 episodes on the same day or if they will run them over a period of weeks (I suspect that will be how it's done in order to have something stretch during the offseason). I plan to record it on my DVR and save it for posterity. :D I'm an old AFL fan and I don't want to miss this at all.
Sorry, #78 is Jim Dunaway and #72 is Ron (The Dancing Bear) McDole. Also, #58 is Mike Stratton making the hit on Lincoln. At least you got the best of them all #70 Tom Sestak right.
Yep, you're correct Mr. Weiss (I got your number right!). I knew that whole defense by heart. My mistake. BUT! I also remember that you wore white Adidas Superstars - Size 13. Lets see if I'm right: 86 Day 72 McDole 78 Dunaway 70 Sestak 58 Stratton 51 Tracey 52 Jacobs 42 Byrd 24 Edgerson 26 Saimes ??? 42 Guidry? Haygood Clarke ??? Was he 24?
Well no you didn;t, Brave Bob Weiss wore #8, Randy Smith was #9. Tom Day wore #88 and #89. Harry Jacobs wore #64, Hagood Clarke was #45 and Paul Guidry was #59.
It's funny...I am an old Baltimore Colt fan and had so much venom for the AFL for years and years. Even claimed that SBIII was fixed. But in retrospect, I LOVED the AFL. It was a great league and while the early days they didn't have many great players, they quickly got REALLY good. But I loved that they were THINKERS. The AFL is as important to current NFL history as NFL history is. LONG LIFE my brothers I used to hate.
kwolf68 1 year ago
does anyone know where I can watch this full documentary on line or purchase on dvd
thanks
GO BILLS!
wurlitzer78 1 year ago
A great documentary.
ebf1957 1 year ago
Holy Crap! Film footage of a football game at Fenway Park? Talk about something that's hard to find!
alonenjersey 1 year ago
best hit ever at 0:7
chubbybubby5495 1 year ago
Are these DVD's availabel for purchase. Anyone??
6400az 1 year ago
I still hate the fact that the AFL was ever merged.
We would have kicked the NFL`s ass for another 10 plus years!
Great league-great tough players who basically played for nothing compared to the whiny crybaby millionaires of today.
GaryBoy54 1 year ago 5
@GaryBoy54 I could not have said it better myself! :-D
WC3POchannel10A 1 year ago
@GaryBoy54 If the AFL-NFL merger never happened, Pittsburgh would be in the NFL. I don't think the AFL had any teams that would have beaten the Steelers after 1972.
Also, the first Super Bowl after the merger were against Dallas (NFL) and Baltimore (NFL).
srotagadirolf 1 year ago
@srotagadirolf Probably not. Maybe the Dolphins or the Raiders back then.
rayjr62 1 year ago
@srotagadirolf Madden owned Knoll, check your regular season records.
momojojo75 1 year ago
@GaryBoy54 Like it or not, the league had no choice but to merge. The bidding war was costing them both what was then) a hell lot of money.
alonenjersey 1 year ago
@GaryBoy54 today's players would wipe the floor with these guys-deal with it.
ThisIsBilbo 1 year ago
if the AFL and the NFL never joined, the bills would have won 6 championships
remmyist 1 year ago 7
I always thought it was funny that some of the top pro wrestlers were in the AFL. Ernie "The Big Cat" Ladd, Wahoo McDaniel, "Superstar" Billy Graham, and Verlon Biggs.
Dietpepsivanilla 1 year ago
i saw something like this on HBO. i cant remember the name but it was basically the same thing
shockerking20 1 year ago
If this ever comes out in DVD, I'm first in line. The AFL was the best football on the planet! I'm sorry the two leagues merged, although I understand why they did.
therebel1960 1 year ago
Cleveland was part of the All-America Football Conference. The AAFC ran from 1946 until 1949. Cleveland won all four of the AAFC championship games (beating the S.F. 49ers the last two times). In 1950, the Browns, 49ers and Baltimore Colts were brought into the NFL. Browns won championship its first two years in the NFL. AAFC Colts folded. New Colts started in 1953.
freen981 2 years ago
@freen981
And it's to my knowledge that they only lost about 4 times during those four years including two undefeated seasons.
GhostDistortion 2 years ago
is this on dvd?
twistingthenightaway 2 years ago
clevland was apart of the originl nfl so they are not going to shine much liight on them
taytay510 2 years ago
Does anyone know if this will atleast be ON Demand through our cable providers???
AMauri27 2 years ago
Watched entire FullColorFootball when on Showtime. Brilliantly done. Great for someone like self born in '66. They really played for pay back then!
endfly 2 years ago
This was played during tonights game in New Orleans. It said it's going to be shown on the NFL Network starting January 8th.
Yshinozuka 2 years ago
At 0:14 it's the Big Cat himself - Ernie Ladd.
Can't wait for this to come out on DVD.
teenchy 2 years ago
Can someone tell me why they showed the Cleveland Browns, and more specifically, Jim Brown, in this video. They were NEVER in the AFL.
caputobd 2 years ago
No Cleveland Browns in this video. The Bengals had similar road uniforms.
allendougla1 2 years ago
@caputobd , if you are referring to #32 at around 0:21 on the sidelines shaking hands with the guy with the mic, that is not Jim Brown. You may have made that association because they showed Paul Brown just before that, and Brown was the coach/owner of the Bengals...but that wasn't Jim Brown. Try freezing the video at that point and you can tell by looking at him...I have no idea who it is but I know what Jim Brown looks like. :D
SilverHamer 2 years ago
The #32 you're referring to is Curtis McClinton, Texans/Chiefs fullback from '62-'69 and 1962 AFL Rookie of the Year.
dvenhuis 1 year ago
@dvenhuis Yes, now that I look at it again I believe you are correct...and is that Joe Foss holding the mic?
SilverHamer 1 year ago
Caputobd, I can tell you they interviewed Jim Brown on Cookie Gilchrist. Brown admitted he admired Gilchrist and said he was a great football player.
Dietpepsivanilla 1 year ago
Does anybody know if this will be released on DVD?
01042004 2 years ago
Yes. They say not until 2012, which stinks because I do not get Showtime. I am going to have to wait : (
jgboys1 2 years ago
@jgboys1 It is going to be aired on the NFL network on Friday January 8th. I don't know if they will show all 5 episodes on the same day or if they will run them over a period of weeks (I suspect that will be how it's done in order to have something stretch during the offseason). I plan to record it on my DVR and save it for posterity. :D I'm an old AFL fan and I don't want to miss this at all.
SilverHamer 2 years ago
Thank you SilverHamer. I am old school, I will set up my VCR ; )
jgboys1 2 years ago
@01042004, NFL network is going to run it beginning Friday Jan 8th. I'm going to capture it on my DVR for posterity :D
SilverHamer 2 years ago
Since I re-uped with Showtime right before new season of Dexter started, I missed the first 2 episodes. Are the going to replay these?
JohnCoctoasten85 2 years ago
How about putting this on a channel that most people actually get?
buffalobraves9 2 years ago
Now this is what I like, the old days of the American Football League, beautiful. ;)
Zippertheslipper 2 years ago 2
Jim Nance, Lance Alworth, Paul Robinson ,Ben Davidson
thefirstrayman 2 years ago
Anyone know if this will be offered on DVD?
WC3POchannel10A 2 years ago
At 0:06 Buffalo Bills #70 Tom Sestak & #78 Ron McDole
Chargers #22 & #18 Keith Lincoln and Tobin Rote
tuttalumillinciani 2 years ago
Sorry, #78 is Jim Dunaway and #72 is Ron (The Dancing Bear) McDole. Also, #58 is Mike Stratton making the hit on Lincoln. At least you got the best of them all #70 Tom Sestak right.
buffalobraves9 2 years ago
tuttalumillinciani 2 years ago
Well no you didn;t, Brave Bob Weiss wore #8, Randy Smith was #9. Tom Day wore #88 and #89. Harry Jacobs wore #64, Hagood Clarke was #45 and Paul Guidry was #59.
buffalobraves9 2 years ago
Was Guidry a Safety or Corner?
Now that I think of it he may have been an LB.
tuttalumillinciani 2 years ago
Okay, got it. The other safety was Haygood Clarke and he wore #45. I cheated and googled this one.
tuttalumillinciani 2 years ago
At 0:04 - Buffalo Bills HOF #66 Billy Shaw.
tuttalumillinciani 2 years ago
At 0:09 is Pete Gogolak and at 0:21 is Lou Saban.
buffalobraves9 2 years ago