my god!! he kept hisSpeech with wisdom and deep knowledge of thinking abilitie, becaous, he was Gogferring men he hate violence he was listening his pealpe!!! Ple.. Read the truth about hem!!! HE WAS A GOOD FOTHER!!!!!!ble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ss!
@SethBrundleDirtyFly People do like monarchies and their King. He was not burried under a toilet, that was a propaganda of meles zenawi's TPLF in the 1990s.
@Awash777 Stop lying you raw meat eating subhuman, your stinky king ended up been buried in a toilet...thats true ..check your facts and get some education ..
@Awash777 Only idiots that dont understand wht monarchy means supports their king, and fascists of course. Ive spoken to many Ethiopians who were alive during that time. Its the propoganda of monarchists that perpetuate this idea that sellasie was loved at home. He may have impressed foreigners but ppl in the region hated sellassie, and yes he was buried under the toilet in menghistu office, wasnt it the tplf who had the body reburied??
@mymoyasin01 King Haileselassie liberated ungrateful eritreans from slavery and built the first university in asmera. King Haileselassie educated and restored your liberty. eritrean slaves were not allowed to learn more than fourth grade under italian slavery. I hope isayas afework the foreign agent stays with you for a century.
@mymoyasin01 The English Zionist Orde Wingate restored Selassie's throne. Selassie was flown in when it was and remained in the rear while the Wingate's Army chased the Italians away.
@Awash777 btw you donqoro, Haile selasi did not lberate ER ..Allied forces did after 2nd world wayyou donqoro... a federation was established in 1952 between ER and ETH but the raw meat eating animal designated king by his scumb ppl decided to annex ER to Ethiopia and this is were all started ..get some education you lil scumb instead of bluffing inaccurate comments here .
@tksmurf: how brainwashed are you. 'no christian should celebrate death and distruction'?? christianty is based on a blood celebration which occurs daily. You christians have one of the latest human -sacrifice-and-cannibalism based religions, and you can still.type a sentence like the one I've just quoted? You live in a mental jail.
@MrNanabrobbey No he isnt. You are out of your minds. In Ethiopia Ras is a warrior title. We had many, Ras Teferi, Ras Alula, Ras Alemayehu, Ras Mekonnen. But you just picked out one and called him god. Even he would disagree.
@OneParticleCharged There are more Jehovah witnesses in Ethiopia than there are rastas. None of you are Ethiopian or know about our culture and religion. Haileselassie was an Ethio Orthodox christian. He never told anyone he was god. Explain how a man who followed a different religion could be the god of yours.
@ZekuEtyopia Be sure about facts before you speak. Bob never converted to Ethiopian Orthodox. Rita requested the Orthodox Church command the funeral service. Something they refuse to do for anyone unless they are also Orthodox. Therefore AFTER his death he was honored by the church & given the burial name of Berhane Selassie. To this day Bob Marley is NOT recognized by The Ethiopian Orthodox Church as a member, but rather as a man 'posthumously baptized' by the church & there is a difference.
@ZekuEtyopia As far as, "there are no Ethipoian born rastafaris." Say what? You simply can not be serious!! That is truly laughable. You really revealed a level of ignorance with that statement.
@osemoboable First of all you are completely out of your mind. Secondly, when did Haileselassie ever tell ANYONE that he was God? Haileselassie always was an Orthodox christian hence why his family friends and most of the nation was Orthodox christian. He never told us to become rastas. Where did u create this fake thinking?
@ZekuEtyopia ..Only men with petty mind believe there is One God, and in Afrika we have shrine for worshipping different gods i.e rain god,forest god,god of fertility etc..... So when u say Jesus,You lost out completely and if you are from Ethiopia dont be too proud that we pick on majesty....His words to my lost brothers in Jamaica makes me personaly crown him God or what do u think God is?A destroyer of enemy and mass murderer,come on set ur mind free and stop reading bible ok.
@ZekuEtyopia ....Jealuosy!!!!!! We dont need permission from descendants of people who betrayed Haile Selassie I while on earth,as they greedingly thought his demise means loosing the throne,but how astonished they remain today to see his majesty still lingering in hearts of Billions. And for your information God dont exist if it is atributed to thin air like your God.....But Jah exist and haile Selassie I is God;remember paradise is a state of mind and we use zion as a heaven.
@osemoboable Ephesians 4:14 Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.
Fu*k the Ethiopian solders , they are the one who mess up the country. The so colled mengistu h. Mariam is a BAREEYA who doesn't have a brain is the one who gave us for these evil Tigres.
Nothing can change us from loving him and his prophetic works.He is the sun the moon the air we breath the earth i mean he is everything for life and after life. selah
Holy,Holy,Holy to the lamb of YAHWEH Emperor Haile Selassie 1.his love for humanity, Africa, and the whole wide World is fabulous.we still waiting for Haile selassie 2 to site upon the throne.
@MrNanabrobbey why are you still waiting for haile sellassie? rasta's believe that haile selassie is the second coming of christ so why would he come back? you need to wait for christ to sit on the throne, haile selassie was the servant of the most high and his messiah jesus christ.
@tksmurf Peace and love brother, i no he is Christ yesterday today and forever more, is the divine nature of him and his holy work of equal rights and justice that makes him the most high. you see the word most high means his love for life and humanity in general. he has no special interest for one but for all walks of live.Selah.
@MrNanabrobbey then do you worship martin luther king or ghandi as well as christ?. what about you, would you mind if i started a church that was dedicated to worshipping you soley because of the good things that im sure you've done. would that be okay with you? im not being sarcastic i want your honest opinion on this bruh,
@tksmurf BROTHER TO ME WORSHIP MEANS LIVING IN THE TEACHINGS OF THE MASTER,EXAMPLE LOVE ONE ANOTHER,FORGIVE ONE ANOTHER, BE YOUR BROTHERS KEEPER,FOR THE DAY YOU BORN THE SAME DAY YOU BEGAN TO DIE BUT AFTER ALL MAN CONSIST OF A SOUL THAT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT AND THAT IS WHAT YOU AND I NEED TO THINK ABOUT NOT THE FLESH FOR HUMAN WANTS ARE NEVER SATISFY.PEACE AND LOVE.
@MrNanabrobbey then do you live in the teachings of your master?, and if so which teachings of his do you live by?, because if he says he is not christ and yet you believe in him, then i should be able to create a religion and call you christ as well right?.
@tksmurf Brother his majesty said i will be replaced by the up coming generation so if the word CHRIST is been defined in your own way no problem but to me CHRIST come to give me life and aboundantely meaning teach me how to operate to survive by not killing or stealing but to defend what belongs to me to live upon.
@MrNanabrobbey so what God is depends on how a human being takes him as?. if so then you've lowered God down to an even lower level than yourself, you are you, i cant change who you are, only you can. what your saying with all due respects doesnt match up with the scripture and even with your previour comment if sellasie is christ today, tomorrow and tomorrow. how can he be replaced if he is constant?. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever heb 13:8. who has replaced jesus?
@tksmurf Brother Jesus was born in the house where sheeps and goats sleep but he is God right?it was the ITALIANS who kill him and the third day he resurrected right?you see i look at the living spirit that does the work not the flesh.
@MrNanabrobbey where he was born has nothing to do with the situation? christs birth takes nothing from his divinity it was predestined in old scripture "But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me [that is]to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth [have been] from of old, from everlasting."
Micah 5:2.
the scripture revealed his humble beginings that was HIS choice, what does that have to do with sellasie though?
@tksmurf I think you need to read and such for who His imperial majesty stand for then you will no from the book of revelation 3;7. also the only Monarchy that bears the name the LION of JUDAH is Ethiopia monarchy.and you don,t need to believed but to search for the KIngdom of GOD.
@MrNanabrobbey In a radio interview in 1967 Selassie said, “I have heard of that idea. I also met certain Rastafarians. I told them clearly that I am a man, that I am mortal and that they should never make a mistake in assuming or pretending that a human being is emanated from a deity.”
@tksmurf You said it but you do not understand what you just said.is you who see him as a human being but is the word he speaks and what happen during his earthly visit then you will no who he is,for the Ark of the cabinet is in Ethiopia right now.that is what he defend and that is what the Italian were looking for just to make money of it not just to live the words from the ARK.peace and love.
@MrNanabrobbey what are you talking about now?, people have always said that the ark of the covenant is in ethiopia i dont know because ive never seen it and guess what neither has selassie because only priests can see the ark, and even if it was menelek brought it over a thousand years ago so that says nothing about selassie's divinity. what does italian colonialsim have to do with selassie being king? lol all of europe was trying to carve up africa.
@MrNanabrobbey LOL i dont know what your saying now, life is my father, death conquered by jesus christ over 2,000 years ago, when i die i might embrace death but i sure as hell wont fear him because he became a slave to the one true king of kings. "he who beleifeth in him shall not die but have everlasting life". have you made your choice?
@MrNanabrobbey so you deny jesus christ but exept the man that worships him lol thats like me saying i like a preacher but i hate God. or that i love a dog but hate its master. enlighten yourself brother, for the enemy comes to deceive even the wizest of souls.
@MrNanabrobbey pt 2 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their conscience seared with a hot iron. (1 Timothy 4:1-2)
@MrNanabrobbey pt 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. (2 Timothy 4:3-4)
@tksmurf ...Too much lies on twisted words marked as verses to forster evil....but thanks to Jah rasta faria who liveth itinually in i&i......the descendants of slaveriders shall never win over our soul,never till infinity,jah rasta fari,seen.
@osemoboable dispute it then, if the scriptures are twisted then why do you read it as well lol. the sciptures you use to argue of selassies holy kingship are correct but the scriptures that say that christ is lord alone are incorrect? and my friend im african just as a i assume you are and christianity was in africa ON THE BOOKS before it was in europe, mark was north african, mathew preachd in ethiopia, the first christian convert was an ethiopian(acts). so dont make it a race thing.
@tksmurf ...To be rasta,one dont need to be preach to,it comes within while christainity involves luring,enticing and sometime threatening. Dont you think is about time we grow out of slavery mentality and since we are now free we can also break away from those words given to us by the masters whose wishes is to brainwash using the bible. You and I also know that the bible is just a left over apocrypha packages;so the onus is on you to be rasta to digest.
@osemoboable the scripture that the heart is deceitfull amongst all. the devil doesnt lure you by his means, but by YOUR WANTS, life isnt a game between GOD and you. its between you and yourself, overcome the old man and renew yourself through the newness of christ. the white slave masters didnt invent the bible, they didnt write mathew, mark, luke and john. mark was killed in egypt in 64 a.d by being dragged around alexandria till he died and he was himself and african born in libya.
@osemoboable peter was his uncle and had him educated(him being his sisters sister and since peter was illiterate he recorded the events of the gospel for peter). luke was an actual doctor, and intellectual who came to know christ and recorded his gospel. mathew was his disciple and a witness to the christ, and john was his youngest disciple who also wrote revelations. beware lest the devil consume using the desires of your heart against you. the lord doesnt see race he see's sheep and wolves.
@osemoboable pt 3. haile selassie was a christian who bended the knee to the most powerful, mighty and mercifull Lord of Lords and King of Kings and God of gods. since he himself bended the knee was he brainwashed by his slave masters?. why then would you worship a brain washed subserviant man?. i bend my knee to christ alone, not a white christ, or black christ, but God all mighty himself wrapped in flesh. but God is not an intruder muttering prayers will not save a man only his heart and soul
@osemoboable pt 4. man is naturally the property of man, you bend the knee to your desire and flesh or you bow it to the world(satan) or you bend the knee to christ there is nothing else. the ethiopian eunich conversed with stephen in the book of acts and became the first non jewish convert to christianity. steven explained the words of isaiah to him and drew him to the well with living water that is called Jesus christ. you are free in christ, and no longer bound to the world.
@tksmurf ...How can a man be naturaly a property of man,come on who thought you so;and if it is the Bibble,i repeat stop reading it and go listen to Bob marley interview. And you are never free in Christ but in Selassia I,you get Tranquility of mind,you no longer think that there is a God that destroy enemy in a lake of everlasting fire and if you have a slave set free,for every man has a right to live fully on earth,please.
@osemoboable pt 3 and dont generalize africa as if we all think the same. my father is rwandan and my mother is kenyan. my mother is ameru and we believed in one God, we didnt have shrines to different God etc, and my father is rwandan tutsi, his culture also believed in One God. africa is a continent not a country, and as i said christianity was in africa before it hit europe and thats a historical fact.
@tksmurf ...The reason why there was conflict in Rwanda was because they dont believe in Selassia but christainity instead and they dont even have shrine for ancestors worshipping,ok what we you offer if our stolen brothers return from Amerika,Haiti and Jamiaca,will it be Cross with crucified christ,come on,dont make me cry.....You go home and ask if any still exist old people they will relate to you what we worship 100yrs ago,u cant lie to me,this is not bible but reality.
@osemoboable im not trying to lie to you lol my great grandfather was namaan m'mwrichia paramamount chief of the ameru in kenya, and leader of the njuri ncheke council of elders(that is over 500 years old). my great grandfather actually recently passed in '04. his father n'tom mwirichia was a chief and his father was a paramount cheif, and through our council our ancestral beliefs have been recored look it up "ameru origins kenya". we believed in ONE GOD murungu(the name for God in kimeru).
@osemoboable lol look up the ameru origin story. thats all im saying its sounds very monetheistic and judeo christian to me. lol its kind of ironic cause you ancestors didnt worship sellassie now did they?..so..its kind of ridiculous to tell me not to let them down. my great grandfather translated the bible into kimeru so what im a sixth generation christian(his father exepted christ and his fathers father exepted him before he died).and my cousin amare(his mom is ethiopian)
@osemoboable pt 2 is probably the what 20th male in his line since the 300's to exept christ. so no my friend im not letting my ancestors down, im exepting God almighty. my dead relatives who never knew jesus still knew God almighy as the one God of they're people, and since they werent privy to the information that me and the age mates of my clansmen and generation s a whole they are in paradise glorifying God, just as i will when i pass on.
@osemoboable pt 2 my great grandfather was born in 1912, now by that time missionaries came to meru the people readilly believed because they already believed in one God and this one God murungu, helped the people cross the sea from yemen(or egypt) into northern kenya and lead them to the land around mt kenya. thats our history, this isnt some con or some scam i am kenyan and this what my tribe and my ancestors believed. now onto rwanda, like i said my dad is a rwandan tutsi okay?.
@osemoboable pt 3 dont tell me about the conflict of rwanda i lost actual family members in that conflict and it isnt the first time. the world looked at the genocide while tutsi and hutu have had conflicts for hundreds of years and it didnt come from christianity. hutu's and tutsi are different ethnicity with the same identical culture. the tutsi conquered th hutus of rwanda in the 14th century because they were warriors while the hutus were agrarians. when the country was colonialised.
@osemoboable pt 4 the germans became friends with the monarchy of king yuhi. and began studying the different ethnicities based on height, stature, property, cattle etc. when the germans lost the war the belgiums took control and then began telling the hutu's that tutsi had conquered them and that since hutu's were the majority that they should be in power. that made a power shift and little "conflicts" have been going on since the 40's and 50's. it has nothing to do with christianity.
@tksmurf ...You know much of your history and am proud of you,but you want to give all that away to christainity belief and how are you so sure you are on the right part? There is a point of correction on you claiming that ghana,nigeria know christainity before slavery trade....please that is lies,we only acept it after slavery. My surgestion on embracement of rasta fari is not not to inflict pains of old memories of Rwanda conflicts,as i feel it more to heart and rasta hope is Unity.
@osemoboable pt 5 its an ethnic dispute. tutsi preachers were killed by they're own hutu congregants, tutsi women were killed by there husbands because they were bitter that the president of rwanda(in 93) habiyarama's plane was shot down, and it was believed that rebal tutsi groups were responsible. aside from that and back to beleifs. the rwandan people believed in one supreme thundergod of rwanda. king yuhi refused to convert to catholicism and sent his daughter a letter telling her that she
@osemoboable pt 6 would by the one thundergod of rwanda. as far as ancestrol worship, in my culture we never did that, i never worshipped by great grandfather and neither did he. our method of honoring our ancestors is in names. my mother's middle name was given to her by my grandfathers mother, her younger brother was named by my grandfathers father, and the youngest boy my uncle is named after my grandmothers father. and on and on, into uncles, cousins and siblings,
@osemoboable pt 7 now the irony of ancestral worship is that stuff is now intirley foreign to ethiopia lol.. rwanda has had a succesful monarchy but ethiopia's monarchy was highly respected, they were christians since the 1st century and state religion of ethiopia since the 300 a.d's so that is entirley foreign to them. LOL if our "stolen" brothers return to africa, first they will have to find out what part of africa they come from and then assimilate as they wish,nigeria, ivorcy coast, ghana.
@tksmurf ....This is when we have to correct the history and help me to tell the Amerika black people that 98% of the slaves were from West Africa were voodoo originated from.....You look at Amerika ,Jamiaca and Haiti by facia u see their resemblance is of west Afrika not Ethiopia ok.
@osemoboable pt 8 the haitians wont have to much of a problem there voodoo is a bastardized version of the voodoo in guinee i believe or togo im not sure, but as far as nigeria, mali, ghana. islam was already there before the slave trade, and the sad reality is most of the people in america, haiti, and jamaica were sold by they're own people. when kingdoms went to war enemies, women and children were sold off. to arabs, to whites on the coast who traded with guns the whites didnt invent slavery
@tksmurf .....Then who invented slavery? Are u claiming our fore fathers did?I surgest we sleep now so we can continue in the evening;goodnight and may the good spirit of our ancestors guide us till then.
@osemoboable no single race invented it. the earliest record of rules on slavery are the sumerian code of ur-nammu. but slavery was recorded in ancient egypt, nubia, even china, the native americans of south and north america. all with various rules and regulations. when tribes went to war, prisoners of war became slaves or traded for goods. if you couldnt pay someone something you coulve indebted yourself as a slave for a period of time etc.
@tksmurf ...Christainity is a showcase to show white superiority while rasta far i stand for love, black and white can associate with,u know Selassia look like white man and so Bob marley. Nothing racist in it and its the latest way of living,believe me. Do u know Richard Dawkin said that he is afrika and yet he is an atheist,rasta far i are more related to atheism than christainity,forget that lineage of david and so on.
@osemoboable i know richard dawkins ive even read some of his books he was born in colonalist kenya and he left when he was young so he is in affect english born in kenya. christianity doesnt showcase white superiority, history shows as i have already told you that christianity was in africa before it was in europe. it was in africa, asia and the middle east before it was widespread by the romans unto the rest of the europeans. snf mutsbutsks the rastafari said that rasta is based of chritianity
@osemoboable if rastafari was closer to atheism, then why do you have doctrine? lol then why do you call selassie God. atheism is at its core anti-theistic. since u believe that selassie is God you are not an atheist. lol because atheism isnt a belief system. mutabakaraka said that rastafarianism is opposed to roman catholicism not christianity or the bible so i guess then rastafari is divided against itself because he believes that selassie is christ returned which is the opposite of atheism.
@tksmurf ...Richard Dawkin claim that black and white originated from Africa scientifically, not because he was born there. And again the suffix ism we hate most,rasta far i is not a belief but a way of life.
@osemoboable LOL richard dawkins wasnt the first white man to claim that life started in africa. prominent kenyans like the leakeys(look up louis leakey) was a peleontologist, archeologist and since a young age was an evolutionist. this is a white kenyan you can speak of, not ony did he live in kenya, he became a kikuyu he spoke the language, and when he died in england he was flown to kikuyuland and buried. and he died a devout christian.
@tksmurf ..Who made u cheerish christainity so much like this;I personaly is afraid of that cult,cant u see everything about them is blood,why projecting imagination laze,life suppose to be sweeter than this if chritainity and muslem dont exist and the only solution is to be rasta..there is no such god as God that prepare everlasting burninig lake fire awaiting our friends or enemies;cant you see the isrealites and the arabs,come on,they are to learn from us how to love,
@osemoboable lol who made me cherish christianity,God and his word. i grew up non denominational in the states, i was agnostic from about 10th grade to about my second year of college, i was trying to find a reason not to beleive God and i starting reading the old and new testament mostly isaiah, revelation, the gospel and the letters and it made sense to me. lol you said why cant i see that everything about them is blood?. how so? ive told you all the good things ive personally seen myself.
@osemoboable pt 2 you said christianity is a white religion, i told you about my family, my culture, bible scriptures with black/africans involved. i told you about ethiopia and them having the oldest bible in the world, i told you about louise leakey who found some of the earliest bones in kenya and became a kikuyu. i told you how my great grandfather translated the first kimeru bible, and aside from those things ive seen the positive things that have transpired in my life and my familys life
@tksmurf pt2..I know your parent must have gotten enemous wealth from this religion for a long time,am not,infact i cant convince you at all,doing that is like taken the horse and forcing it to drink...u see, i can forsee ur ambition of building more churches in afrika,well is ok,it will increase ur income but the poor people would surfer...remember they sweat to pay tides.
@osemoboable my response to your part 2, lol my great grandfather not my parent lol, made enough to provide for him and his seven children, he wasnt a preacher he was an educater a head master, he built one church and 10 schools in his tribal area, he didnt die a millionaire but because of his faith in God and the things he did both in pre colonial and post colonial kenya he was always taken care of by the people he helped.
@osemoboable my response to your part 2 cont. my great grandfather helped liberate kenya from colonialism and was an adviser to two presidents, so dont compare yourself to him, he was man amongst men, and with the little he had he came from the bottom, shed blood for independence, and educated his people, he has a legacy something not to many people get to have his faith was only a small part of that.
@osemoboable pt 3 while following christs philosophy and teaching. you say that christianity is a cult, yet your faith follows a man that never claimed to be what you say he was, you can argue that about christ but selassie is recent and ive proved that through this whole discussion/argument. GOD almighty is the last Judge and the most righteous. if i kill someone and i go before a judge and i tell him "but ive done so many other good things in my life" and he lets me go is he a good judge?.
@tksmurf pt 3. Then why expecting others to go to hell and only you to heaven,when you and i black. who brought this fake idea that you cant le go.just be good to people you meet on ur way,not because there is god,but that we living now and maybe we never see again;why must there be hell or heaven in this equation,after all we dont know where we were before we were born why worrying for the aftermath.
@osemoboable my response to your part 3. like i already said, God is a just God you think everyone who SAYS they believe in God will be able to stand ready at the judgement, if you live a righteous life and leave behind the life you had in the false world, then you prove through action who you serve and what you have become, the process of trying to be holy as jesus told us we should. if you ignore God, then consequently he will ignore you..that makes sense lol thats even in science.
@tksmurf my respone to your part 3 cont. lol whats newtons third law? for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. this is an irrefutable law of the universe. if you hate God, or you blaspheme God, and forget him, then the opposite and equal response is that God will forget you as well. there is no place for you in heaven if you hate God, why because its his domain not yours. the only other place created is hell so by default you have one place to Go lol.
@osemoboable pt 4 no, you cant be a good judge if you dont follow through with the law. if a judge let a murderer go because of all the other good things i was doing on the street you would say he is not a good judge he doesnt judge according to the law. if you dont believe in God then you are judged according to his law and because you have a choice of letting jesus christ handle that for you and you dont want it then who's falt is that?. God is not a fool or an imbecile.
@osemoboable pt 5 now God created us in his image and through the knowledge of good and evil, we've come to be on par with God in our own minds, "what i find is good, therfore God must find it good because it makes sense to me. but God is not on par with you, when i did something wrong no matter how much my parents loved me i got punished because they were just parents. if i knew i wasnt going to be accountable for what i did then why would i have to respect my parents?. lol you understand?
@tksmurf pt 5. And an ant created by ant God in it image,so goes to dog and the talking serpent of your fairytale..If the fear is wisdom,then i surgest we have long generation to set things right. And no wonder you people place trust on weapons than man,you be happy telling me isreal is powerful because they are blessed and on sunday be glad to clap your hands as testimony of bliss for you been above your competitor. I know you already secure in mind a space for me in hell and its ok.
@osemoboable my respone to your part 5. your wrong sir, even the most millitant atheist recognizes the primacy of intellect. human beings are dominant because of our intelligent and our abiltity to build almost anything we imagine(hence God made man in his image). i dont understand what you said, but i have no animosity towards you, i have condemned you nor do i have the power, in God's eye as a human i am no different from you, save for the fact that i lean on God's strength through christ.
@osemoboable my response to your part 5 cont. and by the way God didnt create the common dog, human beings did, by breeding captured wolves, we killed the agressive ones and kept the normal ones and then made variations. and i dont understand what your saying about israel, i have no bliss to be over my competitor, i am my own competitor christ said daily take up your own cross. so daily i try(not always successfull) to defeat the enemy with me as i move toward theosis. moving closer to God.
@osemoboable my response to your part 5 cont part 2. and again brother, i dont have a place in hell secured for you in my mind. its not me to judge you, and if i dont keep my own eyes focused on my own sins, then i will fall down, for pride comes before a fall and after that destruction. so i dont look at people and say your going to hell, that does nothing to show humility, but if i love someone like my friend of family member it would be cruel of me not to reach out and share christ.
@osemoboable pt 6 another example. you are a man and i am a man. if i strike you in the face for no reason and you being a man with feelings, hit me right back, and then i said to you "why would you do that?". you'd look at me like i was crazy, because my action received an equal or more consequence. so if i have more respect for you as a man, not to strike you and to be curtious , why should God not be respected and feared.for he can destroy body and sould correct?.
@tksmurf ..pt6 There you show your true colour again; when earthquake struck Haiti, churches start huming praises indirectly to that God saying it serve them right for they are voodoo worshipers,and just after the tsunami in Japan they again start roaring like lion in church den saying same, but only this time they say japan was an atheist country. So if its your God that is responsible what respect do rasta give, since you are soliciting for his fear.
@osemoboable my response to part 6. lol this whole paragrpah to what i said. my whole point was that God is more powerful than you, but if i have more fear of what you can do to me as a man, and i disrespect God how foolish would i be thinking he'd let me in then God has no authority over me in that scenario and i can do whatever i want lol.
@osemoboable my response to part 6 and on the earth quake in haiti i only know pat robertson from 700 club said that, and that was disrespectfull, i live in south florida my friends are haitian. i dont know what church you've seen doing that but the church i attend sent people to jacmel since last 2010 and there still building houses and feeding people. haiti has plenty of christians as well they dont all practive voodoo and a death is sad. no christian should celebrate death and distruction.
@osemoboable pt 7 and go back to my comments long ago i already told you. jesus made inferences when he was talking about two certain cities saying that judgement would be worse for them than sodom. it doesnt take a genius to understand that people will receive just punishment, adolf hitler and the unbeliever down the street wont get punished the same way that wouldnt be just. that is for God to reserve the lake of fire is for satan and his minions who battle with God.
@tksmurf ....My reply to pt7. For the pureness of our ancestors sake,do you read any comment from me in support of wickedness towards man kind,you on the other hand justify wickedness if only it comes from your God [ isrealites]. You are not my enemy even if you not a rasta,come on lets break this yoke.
@osemoboable my response to pt 7 again i dont understand half of what your saying lol. for first we have different ancestors but both yours and mine were warriors, with your ancestors probably part responsibe for the reason the atlantic slave trade was successfull, POW's, and slaves were sold to whites thats it. ive already explained to you the difference between a just punishment and wickedness, shooting someone in the head is wicked, executing a murderer is justice=difference.
@osemoboable pt 8 i already told you about the arabs and israelites as well, if you had read the prophecies you would understand that in itself is playing itself out. and life is as sweet as you make it, christ preached peace everywhere he went, yet the most attacked person in history is jesus christ yet he says in scripture that people will hate christians in the end of days because of there belief. All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved mat 10:22
@tksmurf ...My reply to pt 8. There was no time my people love christainity,our hands are tied when they came with their missionaries. So is baseless quoting ISREALITE verses on a black man like me.
@osemoboable my response to your part 8. i already showed it to you check the history books. dont believe the racial propaganda thats so readilly available, black inferiority comes from believing anything white people didnt come from us. christianity was in east africa atleast 200 years before it was legal to practice it in rome. ill send you a video on that one as well it was a bbc special you should check it out, not a conversion video but you'll see the culture.
@osemoboable pt 9 lol you said if christianty and islam dont exist only solution is rasta....??..thats incredibly ridiculous, if islam and christianity didnt exist, they'd be greco roman pantheism, judaism and all the other religions lol. people would probably be athiests or buddhists or something, rastafari wouldnt exist without christianity existing, the blacks in jamaica would still be pan africans if they were in slavery but the scriptures backing selassie wouldnt be there hence they would
@tksmurf My reply to pt 9. Words of adage were stolen from the lips of afrika ancient people,especially my people and then translated to bibble. Dont you wonder why the vetting and voting before it approval by kings i.e king james or which version are you quoting from? Put yourself in shoes of Jamaica and reminise what it takes for so long to come out of physical and soul deprivation and be able to ascertain that queens[england] are made and supported,thats civilsation,haile is king.
@osemoboable my reply to your part 9. words were stolen from the lips of ancient african people...??..and then trasnlated into the bible. the ethiopian bible was translated close to a millenium before rome split with constantinople in 1062, and before the king james versian which by the way wasnt translated by him it was translated by his scholars. who studied greek, aramaic, and hebrew. put the ethiopian bible and the kjv and their identical in translation. save ethiopia has two more books.
@osemoboable my reply to your part 9 cont the two books are the book of enoch and an extra book of daniel. ethiopia and egypt had an argument on the nature of christ with the orthodox church in 451(look it up). the oriental orthodox churches are the egytian, ethiopian, eritriean, malanakara(india), syriac(founded in antioch and does services in aramaic the language of the hebrews in jesus' time), and armenian. lol none of these churches were founded by white people...none LOL
@osemoboable my reply to your part 9 cont pt 2. the fact that these churches were founded in such diverse places like eritria and india( thomas the doubter was killed here after he founded a church). and you have to understand africa and the middle east werent considered different thousand years ago, thats why in the bible ethiopia and sudan are frequently mentioned in the old testament. and the jews werent white semites as they are today. and what do you mean especially your people?
@osemoboable my reply to your part 9 cont pt 3 and on the jamaica situation both your country and mine were colonies of the england, exept mine was colonised in the late in 1800's. we had 50 different tribes that didnt always get along but we fought for our independence and rejected even the commonwealthship of england. on the fight for independence we have the same spirit and again as a human being to another human being your not my enemy.
@osemoboable pt 10 no reason to believe in him. now ive countered everything you said from christianity being a white supremist religion, my ancestors belief system which i already told you on both sides was one God lol and christianity in africa since the 1st century, on richard dawkins(atheist) and louise leakey(christian/white kikuyu tribesman). to jesus christ and haile selassie. so what else is there to discuss? lol.
@osemoboable pt 2 u said u hate isms but said your closer to atheism than christianity. and on ism. rastafarianism is an ism which is defined:A distinctive practice, system, or philosophy, typically a political ideology or an artistic movement. which it is as it comes out of panafricanism. the same argument can be made for christians, is it relationship or religion?..its a way of life..see this game can be played from both ends.
@osemoboable pt 2. for example the israelittes were slaves and they were treated badly so they codified and simplified there own slavery laws. after 7 years a slave was freed and given property, if the slave chose to stay permanently he would gain an inheritence for his children from the slave owner etc. the europeans and arabs didnt have any vaccines to enter africa so from the coastal forts they were able to trade with tribal cheiftans for gold, slaves, for guns and various minerals.
@osemoboable pt 3 the brutal atlantic slave trade was a product of the american and english masters which have graffic detail and usually had permanent slavery. the english also captured scottish and irish prisoner of war as well as the poor and vagrants of their society. i never knew that till i started going to college but yeah the english even had white slaves. look up farmer Hugh Gwyn three servants in maryland who ran away two were white and one was black all were sentenced to 4 years as
@osemoboable pt 4 slaves. slavery was rampant everywhere in the world, from africans owning africans to europeans owning europeans to native americans owning other native americans and etc.
@osemoboable pt 9 oh and the child naming process or antagu system was done to honor our parents, with the hope that the child encompasses the behavior or attributes of the parent being honored and so that the child would be connected to there grandparent for life, hence an oral history can still tell you your family history with great detail. oh and im in america by the way too.
@osemoboable pt 4 t is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery. galatians 5:1. For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, "Abba, Father. Romans 8:15 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom 2 Corinthians 3:17
@osemoboable pt 5 this philosophy of black oppression is not a product of christianity its the product of european atlantic slave trade. jesus christ began his ministry in an occupied country and preached freedom to everyone he met. the first non jewish convert to christianity was the ethiopian slave who was ministered through steven. the new testament mentions freedom through christ in almost every chapter in the bible yet people have chosen to reduce it to racial propaganda.
@osemoboable pt 6 God will destroy his enemies in a lake of fire, why does that bother you?. the reason confusion and murder and ridiculous doctrines exist is because the principalities not of this earth have deluded its people. demons and devils will burn. but hell is a choice for human, because its not all burning lakes, at its core its seperation from God, if you deny God should not also deny you?.
@tksmurf .....This life we have is the only one and when you die your work and past deeds lives in the mind of people just like selassia in my heart;withthis i am a change person,not bias,but i wont stand witnessing another man doing evil in the name of lord like stoning a prostitute or buying a human as slave just because the koran and the bible permits. So give honour to those who is due to like;Selassia,Christopher hitchens,Mark twain and the only living prophect Richard dawkin,
@osemoboable pt 7 lol people put God as some sort of benevolent dope as if you do whatever you want in this life they will be no consequence. while we human beings judge each other in courts of law with justs judged who sentence people, are they wrong?. if you steal you got jail, if you go to jail. but if you disrespect God almighty, and refuse the sacrifice of his son for your sins, you expect the almighty to be less just than a human judge?. lol ahahaha this world is trully fallen.
@osemoboable pt 5 as i said before God is no intruder, he may knock but he will not run through, when you open up yourself to a relationship with God. the apocrypha were a bunch of books left out of the council of nicene because there date of authorship fell years after any gospel witness lived. end of story mark died in around 64 a.d at around 60 years old making it more than likley he saw christ(infact pentacost happened at his house) so that argumentis refutable and dead.
@osemoboable pt 6 if you dont need to be preached to to become rasta then how can one convert to it?. The bible makes no claim you see?. a child is born greedy and selfish without discipline it remains the same, with direction you point an arrow in the right direction and if the arrow weilds it can be of use to whomever weilds the bow. i drew closer to God and he drew closer to me through the person of jesus christ who is, was and always will be God almighty. the choice is ours though.
@tksmurf ...YOu know its just lies,how can u draw close to God, and by the way which God? Am Black and we are all gods but Selessia is God cant u understand and if u dont u can go back to isreal and the rasta go back to Ethiopia meaning Afrika ok. And i dont even know the version you quoting is it the King James Edtion; Oh you make me cry, come joins us for new print with our ancestors names included ok.
@osemoboable lol your black and you are all gods, were does this belief stem from. im black and there is only one God, who manifested himself in the manner of christ. if you believe that everyone is a god then your deluded by false teachings. christianity was in africa, churches were established there and even the 66 book canon was approved before the nicene council by the bishop of alexandra , the copts and the ethiopians before it was voted on.
@tksmurf ...The bible was approved and voted on;then why cant rasta have their God with out your approval or are we not human beings who were once babies.
@osemoboable pt 2 im not going to stake my lfie on lies, ive become close to God and in doing so i see the person that i am as a man, and i dont see myself as better than anyone. and what do you mean can a man be naturally a property of man?. your the property of yourself, therefore you control what you do, what you wont do etc. if you believe in christ and that he is lord, you live according to what he would do, what he taught and practiced. hence you bend the knee to God.
@tksmurf ..The latest closest way to God is by acepting Selassia and with him in your mind u dont need alliance for the future would be bright with out war; but if you divert then glory be to u and ur isrealites were ur faith leads u to,though u believe in a God that will destroy the world and rapture people for what i dont know; Infact who planted this evil thought on man kind to trust on weapons than love,what has rasta done that u are so bitter about?We dont make guns but songs ok.
@IsraeliteJacob lol theres no hebrew word for father in law or son in law, and even the fact that two lineages proves the legitimacy of an account. if me and you walk into a police station and testify with the same exact story word for word, we coconspiratd, but if me and you give different accounts with similar stories and an exact name logically that was truth, luke gives mary's geneology and mathew gives jospehs genology. give or take levirate marriage and fathers being fathers in law.
@IsraeliteJacob pt 2 you must remember laws such as wedding your brothers wife if he dies, and when a man marries his wife, her father can consider him to be his son. and on and on. luke goes through jesus' blood relative mary all the way to nathan, and through his adopted father joseph. through either line he is a decendant of david making him an eligibale candidate for messiah.
@Capitancanguro1 lol seriously? no they dont there actually quite fun though you should attend a jewish wedding, very warm people. some of my friends from high school went to spanish river, so ive been to weddings with them lol no blood.
@Capitancanguro1 please send me this history if you have it, because im a christian but my jewish friends never tried to take my blood, but if you have a story about this i genuinley(not sarcastic) would like to read this.
@Capitancanguro1 oh yeah..he was a facist guy and he was anti semetic and he went to jail for anti semetic remarks and helping some nazis escape prison.....i dont understand what that has to do with the jews. are you a christian?
@tksmurf ARNOLD S LEESE WROTE THE HISTORY OF THE KILLING AND CHILDREN FOR THEY BLOOD, ITS RECORDED HISTORY, OF COURSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU TRY TO ATTACK HIM NOT THE HISTORY.
@Capitancanguro1 lol im not trying to attack he might have been a good person, but he did help nazi's escape from prison and he was anti semetic. and he also hated armenians, which is sad because the kardashians look like fun lol.
@MrNanabrobbey pt 2 "1966 "One Gospel, One Race, One Task" in berlin "The love shown by our God to mankind should constrain all of us who are followers and disciples of Christ, to do all in our power to see to it that the message of salvation is carried to those of our fellows for whom Christ our Savior was sacrificed but who have not had the benefit of hearing the good news.” selassie himself declared who his savior was, he is void of blame on the day of judgment.
@tksmurf Selassie is the Christ, i think you need to find the meaning of Christ then you can say what you just said,we are waiting to see the fall of the wicked, the Nuclear weapons and chemical weapons they have created for them self just to be leaders under the sun,so stop waiting for Jesus to come from the sky to tell you what you can do to bring peace on earth rather than you telling your leaders to stop building nuclear war head.
@MrNanabrobbey pt 2 and what does nuclear bombs have to do with selassie being christ my friend?. the world already has a negative conotation about nuclear war heads, if you made this statement in the 80's during the cold war it would make sense but since then the u.s and russia have stopped building nukes because they have enough, i listen to the book period, i dont let outsiders brain wash and i pray that God reveals his truth to you, that haile selassie was a subject of christ therfore KOK.
He Did Everything That Could Be Done To Transform Ethiopia From A Tribal Feudal Society To The Modern State Of Ethiopia We Know Today Most Of The Reforms He Made And The Infastructure He Set Up Still Serves Ethiopia Today So With That Said Whoever Is Talking About H.I.M And Dont Know What There Saying Should go Read A Book And Check Ur History And Youll See The Important role haile Selassie Played In The 21st Century
It Is Idiotic To Judge Haile Selassie By Modern And Western Standards He Lived In A Time And A Society Very Much Diffrent From What we Know As A Person Of African Descent I Highly Regard H.I.M As Saviour Of African Pride And Unity He Got Too Powerful And Was Too Much Of A Threat In African Preaching And Lobbying For African United As A Continent To Become One Like United States Of America That Scared The World So The Seeds Were Planted For The Demise Of The Empire!!!
Haile Selassie was a murder, he was behind the kill on the Eritrean people, his country is a loser country like ass licking U.S. and hates the Arab countries...
rastafari is a joke, it's a group of ignorant pot heads who believe their god Haile Selassie. Fuck Ehiopia and Haile Selassie burn them all and praise the Eritreans
He is feudal common criminal. He was not interested in well being of Ethiopia except trumpeting his own name and fame. Fame created by European for European. He followed by Durg and by Meles >> Do you think they are sent from your God hidden somewhere. They are all self serving. Gabitto!
Ethiopia is the worlds laughing stock in every department. What H Selassie, then Dereg, and the present government did despite making worse than it was before. Instead of exploiting western sympathy to his advantage and build primitive Ethiopia to modern days, he indulge in making wishi -- washi speeches here and there and considered hero by people like you.
In the country or continent of the blinds stupid one eyed man can be considered as a king. Gabitto!
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roodbaf 1 week ago
my god!! he kept hisSpeech with wisdom and deep knowledge of thinking abilitie, becaous, he was Gogferring men he hate violence he was listening his pealpe!!! Ple.. Read the truth about hem!!! HE WAS A GOOD FOTHER!!!!!!ble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ss!
meretwork 1 week ago
He was killed by his own ppl and buried under a toilet... seems people don't like monarchys :)
SethBrundleDirtyFly 4 weeks ago
@SethBrundleDirtyFly People do like monarchies and their King. He was not burried under a toilet, that was a propaganda of meles zenawi's TPLF in the 1990s.
Awash777 3 weeks ago
@Awash777 Stop lying you raw meat eating subhuman, your stinky king ended up been buried in a toilet...thats true ..check your facts and get some education ..
mymoyasin01 3 weeks ago
@Awash777 Only idiots that dont understand wht monarchy means supports their king, and fascists of course. Ive spoken to many Ethiopians who were alive during that time. Its the propoganda of monarchists that perpetuate this idea that sellasie was loved at home. He may have impressed foreigners but ppl in the region hated sellassie, and yes he was buried under the toilet in menghistu office, wasnt it the tplf who had the body reburied??
SethBrundleDirtyFly 3 weeks ago
God bless the late King of Ethiopia.
fraizer57 4 weeks ago
this son of a bitch brought death, destruction and war to Eritrea.
the good thing is that he ended in this brutal way , thats something he deserves
mymoyasin01 1 month ago
@mymoyasin01 King Haileselassie liberated ungrateful eritreans from slavery and built the first university in asmera. King Haileselassie educated and restored your liberty. eritrean slaves were not allowed to learn more than fourth grade under italian slavery. I hope isayas afework the foreign agent stays with you for a century.
Awash777 3 weeks ago
@Awash777 how about instigating civil war in Eritrean and trying to exterminate Muslim pop by using commandis Ethiopians and Eritreans ..
if he were a great Man he would not have Ended up in been buried in a toilet lolz
guess you Ethiopians have a special way of Heroism .
will say it again..Fuck Him ..
you ethios deserve to be treated same way Meles is doing right now ..fucking rae meat Eating sissies
mymoyasin01 3 weeks ago
@mymoyasin01 The English Zionist Orde Wingate restored Selassie's throne. Selassie was flown in when it was and remained in the rear while the Wingate's Army chased the Italians away.
TalkWithFrank 3 days ago
@Awash777 btw you donqoro, Haile selasi did not lberate ER ..Allied forces did after 2nd world wayyou donqoro... a federation was established in 1952 between ER and ETH but the raw meat eating animal designated king by his scumb ppl decided to annex ER to Ethiopia and this is were all started ..get some education you lil scumb instead of bluffing inaccurate comments here .
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mymoyasin01 3 weeks ago
@tksmurf: how brainwashed are you. 'no christian should celebrate death and distruction'?? christianty is based on a blood celebration which occurs daily. You christians have one of the latest human -sacrifice-and-cannibalism based religions, and you can still.type a sentence like the one I've just quoted? You live in a mental jail.
uffx3 1 month ago
@MrNanabrobbey No he isnt. You are out of your minds. In Ethiopia Ras is a warrior title. We had many, Ras Teferi, Ras Alula, Ras Alemayehu, Ras Mekonnen. But you just picked out one and called him god. Even he would disagree.
ZekuEtyopia 1 month ago
@OneParticleCharged There are more Jehovah witnesses in Ethiopia than there are rastas. None of you are Ethiopian or know about our culture and religion. Haileselassie was an Ethio Orthodox christian. He never told anyone he was god. Explain how a man who followed a different religion could be the god of yours.
ZekuEtyopia 1 month ago
He is GOD ALMIGHTY.
MrNanabrobbey 1 month ago
@osemoboable Bob Marley realized this and converted to Orthodox Christianity. There is a reason why there are no Ethiopian born rastafaris.
ZekuEtyopia 1 month ago
@ZekuEtyopia Be sure about facts before you speak. Bob never converted to Ethiopian Orthodox. Rita requested the Orthodox Church command the funeral service. Something they refuse to do for anyone unless they are also Orthodox. Therefore AFTER his death he was honored by the church & given the burial name of Berhane Selassie. To this day Bob Marley is NOT recognized by The Ethiopian Orthodox Church as a member, but rather as a man 'posthumously baptized' by the church & there is a difference.
OneParticleCharged 1 month ago
@ZekuEtyopia As far as, "there are no Ethipoian born rastafaris." Say what? You simply can not be serious!! That is truly laughable. You really revealed a level of ignorance with that statement.
OneParticleCharged 1 month ago
@osemoboable First of all you are completely out of your mind. Secondly, when did Haileselassie ever tell ANYONE that he was God? Haileselassie always was an Orthodox christian hence why his family friends and most of the nation was Orthodox christian. He never told us to become rastas. Where did u create this fake thinking?
ZekuEtyopia 1 month ago
@ZekuEtyopia ..Only men with petty mind believe there is One God, and in Afrika we have shrine for worshipping different gods i.e rain god,forest god,god of fertility etc..... So when u say Jesus,You lost out completely and if you are from Ethiopia dont be too proud that we pick on majesty....His words to my lost brothers in Jamaica makes me personaly crown him God or what do u think God is?A destroyer of enemy and mass murderer,come on set ur mind free and stop reading bible ok.
osemoboable 1 month ago
Haileselassie is not God for crying out loud u rastas are crazy.
ZekuEtyopia 1 month ago
@ZekuEtyopia ....Jealuosy!!!!!! We dont need permission from descendants of people who betrayed Haile Selassie I while on earth,as they greedingly thought his demise means loosing the throne,but how astonished they remain today to see his majesty still lingering in hearts of Billions. And for your information God dont exist if it is atributed to thin air like your God.....But Jah exist and haile Selassie I is God;remember paradise is a state of mind and we use zion as a heaven.
osemoboable 1 month ago
@osemoboable Ephesians 4:14 Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@ZekuEtyopia its the delusion that the bible speaks of.
tksmurf 1 month ago
Thank you but we shall see.
MrNanabrobbey 2 months ago
Kings of Kings Lord of lords Concurring lion tribe of Judah . Jah free the people over hills and valleys.
Talentsbestm8 2 months ago
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Juniorhooker 2 months ago
ethiopia is- always has been- and always will be a stain on the map of the world
jojowopper 2 months ago
Fu*k the Ethiopian solders , they are the one who mess up the country. The so colled mengistu h. Mariam is a BAREEYA who doesn't have a brain is the one who gave us for these evil Tigres.
Fu*k you all.
Eyaasu 3 months ago
Nothing can change us from loving him and his prophetic works.He is the sun the moon the air we breath the earth i mean he is everything for life and after life. selah
MrNanabrobbey 3 months ago
Holy,Holy,Holy to the lamb of YAHWEH Emperor Haile Selassie 1.his love for humanity, Africa, and the whole wide World is fabulous.we still waiting for Haile selassie 2 to site upon the throne.
MrNanabrobbey 3 months ago
@MrNanabrobbey why are you still waiting for haile sellassie? rasta's believe that haile selassie is the second coming of christ so why would he come back? you need to wait for christ to sit on the throne, haile selassie was the servant of the most high and his messiah jesus christ.
tksmurf 3 months ago
@tksmurf Peace and love brother, i no he is Christ yesterday today and forever more, is the divine nature of him and his holy work of equal rights and justice that makes him the most high. you see the word most high means his love for life and humanity in general. he has no special interest for one but for all walks of live.Selah.
MrNanabrobbey 3 months ago
@MrNanabrobbey then do you worship martin luther king or ghandi as well as christ?. what about you, would you mind if i started a church that was dedicated to worshipping you soley because of the good things that im sure you've done. would that be okay with you? im not being sarcastic i want your honest opinion on this bruh,
tksmurf 3 months ago
@tksmurf BROTHER TO ME WORSHIP MEANS LIVING IN THE TEACHINGS OF THE MASTER,EXAMPLE LOVE ONE ANOTHER,FORGIVE ONE ANOTHER, BE YOUR BROTHERS KEEPER,FOR THE DAY YOU BORN THE SAME DAY YOU BEGAN TO DIE BUT AFTER ALL MAN CONSIST OF A SOUL THAT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT AND THAT IS WHAT YOU AND I NEED TO THINK ABOUT NOT THE FLESH FOR HUMAN WANTS ARE NEVER SATISFY.PEACE AND LOVE.
MrNanabrobbey 2 months ago
@MrNanabrobbey then do you live in the teachings of your master?, and if so which teachings of his do you live by?, because if he says he is not christ and yet you believe in him, then i should be able to create a religion and call you christ as well right?.
tksmurf 2 months ago
@tksmurf Brother his majesty said i will be replaced by the up coming generation so if the word CHRIST is been defined in your own way no problem but to me CHRIST come to give me life and aboundantely meaning teach me how to operate to survive by not killing or stealing but to defend what belongs to me to live upon.
MrNanabrobbey 2 months ago
@MrNanabrobbey so what God is depends on how a human being takes him as?. if so then you've lowered God down to an even lower level than yourself, you are you, i cant change who you are, only you can. what your saying with all due respects doesnt match up with the scripture and even with your previour comment if sellasie is christ today, tomorrow and tomorrow. how can he be replaced if he is constant?. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever heb 13:8. who has replaced jesus?
tksmurf 2 months ago
@tksmurf Brother Jesus was born in the house where sheeps and goats sleep but he is God right?it was the ITALIANS who kill him and the third day he resurrected right?you see i look at the living spirit that does the work not the flesh.
MrNanabrobbey 2 months ago
@MrNanabrobbey where he was born has nothing to do with the situation? christs birth takes nothing from his divinity it was predestined in old scripture "But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me [that is]to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth [have been] from of old, from everlasting."
Micah 5:2.
the scripture revealed his humble beginings that was HIS choice, what does that have to do with sellasie though?
tksmurf 2 months ago
@tksmurf I think you need to read and such for who His imperial majesty stand for then you will no from the book of revelation 3;7. also the only Monarchy that bears the name the LION of JUDAH is Ethiopia monarchy.and you don,t need to believed but to search for the KIngdom of GOD.
MrNanabrobbey 2 months ago
@MrNanabrobbey In a radio interview in 1967 Selassie said, “I have heard of that idea. I also met certain Rastafarians. I told them clearly that I am a man, that I am mortal and that they should never make a mistake in assuming or pretending that a human being is emanated from a deity.”
tksmurf 2 months ago
@tksmurf You said it but you do not understand what you just said.is you who see him as a human being but is the word he speaks and what happen during his earthly visit then you will no who he is,for the Ark of the cabinet is in Ethiopia right now.that is what he defend and that is what the Italian were looking for just to make money of it not just to live the words from the ARK.peace and love.
MrNanabrobbey 2 months ago
@MrNanabrobbey what are you talking about now?, people have always said that the ark of the covenant is in ethiopia i dont know because ive never seen it and guess what neither has selassie because only priests can see the ark, and even if it was menelek brought it over a thousand years ago so that says nothing about selassie's divinity. what does italian colonialsim have to do with selassie being king? lol all of europe was trying to carve up africa.
tksmurf 2 months ago
@tksmurf You don,t have a choice.
MrNanabrobbey 2 months ago
@MrNanabrobbey a choice in what?
tksmurf 2 months ago
@tksmurf Death is our father do you have choice.
MrNanabrobbey 2 months ago
@MrNanabrobbey LOL i dont know what your saying now, life is my father, death conquered by jesus christ over 2,000 years ago, when i die i might embrace death but i sure as hell wont fear him because he became a slave to the one true king of kings. "he who beleifeth in him shall not die but have everlasting life". have you made your choice?
tksmurf 2 months ago
@tksmurf You keep Jesus i will keep RASTAFARI.
MrNanabrobbey 2 months ago
@MrNanabrobbey so you deny jesus christ but exept the man that worships him lol thats like me saying i like a preacher but i hate God. or that i love a dog but hate its master. enlighten yourself brother, for the enemy comes to deceive even the wizest of souls.
tksmurf 2 months ago
@MrNanabrobbey pt 2 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their conscience seared with a hot iron. (1 Timothy 4:1-2)
tksmurf 2 months ago
@MrNanabrobbey pt 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. (2 Timothy 4:3-4)
tksmurf 2 months ago
@tksmurf ...Too much lies on twisted words marked as verses to forster evil....but thanks to Jah rasta faria who liveth itinually in i&i......the descendants of slaveriders shall never win over our soul,never till infinity,jah rasta fari,seen.
osemoboable 2 months ago
@osemoboable dispute it then, if the scriptures are twisted then why do you read it as well lol. the sciptures you use to argue of selassies holy kingship are correct but the scriptures that say that christ is lord alone are incorrect? and my friend im african just as a i assume you are and christianity was in africa ON THE BOOKS before it was in europe, mark was north african, mathew preachd in ethiopia, the first christian convert was an ethiopian(acts). so dont make it a race thing.
tksmurf 2 months ago
@tksmurf ...To be rasta,one dont need to be preach to,it comes within while christainity involves luring,enticing and sometime threatening. Dont you think is about time we grow out of slavery mentality and since we are now free we can also break away from those words given to us by the masters whose wishes is to brainwash using the bible. You and I also know that the bible is just a left over apocrypha packages;so the onus is on you to be rasta to digest.
osemoboable 1 month ago
@osemoboable the scripture that the heart is deceitfull amongst all. the devil doesnt lure you by his means, but by YOUR WANTS, life isnt a game between GOD and you. its between you and yourself, overcome the old man and renew yourself through the newness of christ. the white slave masters didnt invent the bible, they didnt write mathew, mark, luke and john. mark was killed in egypt in 64 a.d by being dragged around alexandria till he died and he was himself and african born in libya.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable peter was his uncle and had him educated(him being his sisters sister and since peter was illiterate he recorded the events of the gospel for peter). luke was an actual doctor, and intellectual who came to know christ and recorded his gospel. mathew was his disciple and a witness to the christ, and john was his youngest disciple who also wrote revelations. beware lest the devil consume using the desires of your heart against you. the lord doesnt see race he see's sheep and wolves.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 3. haile selassie was a christian who bended the knee to the most powerful, mighty and mercifull Lord of Lords and King of Kings and God of gods. since he himself bended the knee was he brainwashed by his slave masters?. why then would you worship a brain washed subserviant man?. i bend my knee to christ alone, not a white christ, or black christ, but God all mighty himself wrapped in flesh. but God is not an intruder muttering prayers will not save a man only his heart and soul
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 4. man is naturally the property of man, you bend the knee to your desire and flesh or you bow it to the world(satan) or you bend the knee to christ there is nothing else. the ethiopian eunich conversed with stephen in the book of acts and became the first non jewish convert to christianity. steven explained the words of isaiah to him and drew him to the well with living water that is called Jesus christ. you are free in christ, and no longer bound to the world.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf ...How can a man be naturaly a property of man,come on who thought you so;and if it is the Bibble,i repeat stop reading it and go listen to Bob marley interview. And you are never free in Christ but in Selassia I,you get Tranquility of mind,you no longer think that there is a God that destroy enemy in a lake of everlasting fire and if you have a slave set free,for every man has a right to live fully on earth,please.
osemoboable 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 3 and dont generalize africa as if we all think the same. my father is rwandan and my mother is kenyan. my mother is ameru and we believed in one God, we didnt have shrines to different God etc, and my father is rwandan tutsi, his culture also believed in One God. africa is a continent not a country, and as i said christianity was in africa before it hit europe and thats a historical fact.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf ...The reason why there was conflict in Rwanda was because they dont believe in Selassia but christainity instead and they dont even have shrine for ancestors worshipping,ok what we you offer if our stolen brothers return from Amerika,Haiti and Jamiaca,will it be Cross with crucified christ,come on,dont make me cry.....You go home and ask if any still exist old people they will relate to you what we worship 100yrs ago,u cant lie to me,this is not bible but reality.
osemoboable 1 month ago
@osemoboable im not trying to lie to you lol my great grandfather was namaan m'mwrichia paramamount chief of the ameru in kenya, and leader of the njuri ncheke council of elders(that is over 500 years old). my great grandfather actually recently passed in '04. his father n'tom mwirichia was a chief and his father was a paramount cheif, and through our council our ancestral beliefs have been recored look it up "ameru origins kenya". we believed in ONE GOD murungu(the name for God in kimeru).
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf ....That One God was not Allah or God of isrealite,dont let them down.
osemoboable 1 month ago
@osemoboable lol look up the ameru origin story. thats all im saying its sounds very monetheistic and judeo christian to me. lol its kind of ironic cause you ancestors didnt worship sellassie now did they?..so..its kind of ridiculous to tell me not to let them down. my great grandfather translated the bible into kimeru so what im a sixth generation christian(his father exepted christ and his fathers father exepted him before he died).and my cousin amare(his mom is ethiopian)
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 2 is probably the what 20th male in his line since the 300's to exept christ. so no my friend im not letting my ancestors down, im exepting God almighty. my dead relatives who never knew jesus still knew God almighy as the one God of they're people, and since they werent privy to the information that me and the age mates of my clansmen and generation s a whole they are in paradise glorifying God, just as i will when i pass on.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 2 my great grandfather was born in 1912, now by that time missionaries came to meru the people readilly believed because they already believed in one God and this one God murungu, helped the people cross the sea from yemen(or egypt) into northern kenya and lead them to the land around mt kenya. thats our history, this isnt some con or some scam i am kenyan and this what my tribe and my ancestors believed. now onto rwanda, like i said my dad is a rwandan tutsi okay?.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 3 dont tell me about the conflict of rwanda i lost actual family members in that conflict and it isnt the first time. the world looked at the genocide while tutsi and hutu have had conflicts for hundreds of years and it didnt come from christianity. hutu's and tutsi are different ethnicity with the same identical culture. the tutsi conquered th hutus of rwanda in the 14th century because they were warriors while the hutus were agrarians. when the country was colonialised.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 4 the germans became friends with the monarchy of king yuhi. and began studying the different ethnicities based on height, stature, property, cattle etc. when the germans lost the war the belgiums took control and then began telling the hutu's that tutsi had conquered them and that since hutu's were the majority that they should be in power. that made a power shift and little "conflicts" have been going on since the 40's and 50's. it has nothing to do with christianity.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf ...You know much of your history and am proud of you,but you want to give all that away to christainity belief and how are you so sure you are on the right part? There is a point of correction on you claiming that ghana,nigeria know christainity before slavery trade....please that is lies,we only acept it after slavery. My surgestion on embracement of rasta fari is not not to inflict pains of old memories of Rwanda conflicts,as i feel it more to heart and rasta hope is Unity.
osemoboable 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 5 its an ethnic dispute. tutsi preachers were killed by they're own hutu congregants, tutsi women were killed by there husbands because they were bitter that the president of rwanda(in 93) habiyarama's plane was shot down, and it was believed that rebal tutsi groups were responsible. aside from that and back to beleifs. the rwandan people believed in one supreme thundergod of rwanda. king yuhi refused to convert to catholicism and sent his daughter a letter telling her that she
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 6 would by the one thundergod of rwanda. as far as ancestrol worship, in my culture we never did that, i never worshipped by great grandfather and neither did he. our method of honoring our ancestors is in names. my mother's middle name was given to her by my grandfathers mother, her younger brother was named by my grandfathers father, and the youngest boy my uncle is named after my grandmothers father. and on and on, into uncles, cousins and siblings,
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 7 now the irony of ancestral worship is that stuff is now intirley foreign to ethiopia lol.. rwanda has had a succesful monarchy but ethiopia's monarchy was highly respected, they were christians since the 1st century and state religion of ethiopia since the 300 a.d's so that is entirley foreign to them. LOL if our "stolen" brothers return to africa, first they will have to find out what part of africa they come from and then assimilate as they wish,nigeria, ivorcy coast, ghana.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf ....This is when we have to correct the history and help me to tell the Amerika black people that 98% of the slaves were from West Africa were voodoo originated from.....You look at Amerika ,Jamiaca and Haiti by facia u see their resemblance is of west Afrika not Ethiopia ok.
osemoboable 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 8 the haitians wont have to much of a problem there voodoo is a bastardized version of the voodoo in guinee i believe or togo im not sure, but as far as nigeria, mali, ghana. islam was already there before the slave trade, and the sad reality is most of the people in america, haiti, and jamaica were sold by they're own people. when kingdoms went to war enemies, women and children were sold off. to arabs, to whites on the coast who traded with guns the whites didnt invent slavery
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf .....Then who invented slavery? Are u claiming our fore fathers did?I surgest we sleep now so we can continue in the evening;goodnight and may the good spirit of our ancestors guide us till then.
osemoboable 1 month ago
@osemoboable no single race invented it. the earliest record of rules on slavery are the sumerian code of ur-nammu. but slavery was recorded in ancient egypt, nubia, even china, the native americans of south and north america. all with various rules and regulations. when tribes went to war, prisoners of war became slaves or traded for goods. if you couldnt pay someone something you coulve indebted yourself as a slave for a period of time etc.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf ...Christainity is a showcase to show white superiority while rasta far i stand for love, black and white can associate with,u know Selassia look like white man and so Bob marley. Nothing racist in it and its the latest way of living,believe me. Do u know Richard Dawkin said that he is afrika and yet he is an atheist,rasta far i are more related to atheism than christainity,forget that lineage of david and so on.
osemoboable 1 month ago
@osemoboable i know richard dawkins ive even read some of his books he was born in colonalist kenya and he left when he was young so he is in affect english born in kenya. christianity doesnt showcase white superiority, history shows as i have already told you that christianity was in africa before it was in europe. it was in africa, asia and the middle east before it was widespread by the romans unto the rest of the europeans. snf mutsbutsks the rastafari said that rasta is based of chritianity
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable if rastafari was closer to atheism, then why do you have doctrine? lol then why do you call selassie God. atheism is at its core anti-theistic. since u believe that selassie is God you are not an atheist. lol because atheism isnt a belief system. mutabakaraka said that rastafarianism is opposed to roman catholicism not christianity or the bible so i guess then rastafari is divided against itself because he believes that selassie is christ returned which is the opposite of atheism.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf ...Richard Dawkin claim that black and white originated from Africa scientifically, not because he was born there. And again the suffix ism we hate most,rasta far i is not a belief but a way of life.
osemoboable 1 month ago
@osemoboable LOL richard dawkins wasnt the first white man to claim that life started in africa. prominent kenyans like the leakeys(look up louis leakey) was a peleontologist, archeologist and since a young age was an evolutionist. this is a white kenyan you can speak of, not ony did he live in kenya, he became a kikuyu he spoke the language, and when he died in england he was flown to kikuyuland and buried. and he died a devout christian.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf ..Who made u cheerish christainity so much like this;I personaly is afraid of that cult,cant u see everything about them is blood,why projecting imagination laze,life suppose to be sweeter than this if chritainity and muslem dont exist and the only solution is to be rasta..there is no such god as God that prepare everlasting burninig lake fire awaiting our friends or enemies;cant you see the isrealites and the arabs,come on,they are to learn from us how to love,
osemoboable 1 month ago
@osemoboable lol who made me cherish christianity,God and his word. i grew up non denominational in the states, i was agnostic from about 10th grade to about my second year of college, i was trying to find a reason not to beleive God and i starting reading the old and new testament mostly isaiah, revelation, the gospel and the letters and it made sense to me. lol you said why cant i see that everything about them is blood?. how so? ive told you all the good things ive personally seen myself.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 2 you said christianity is a white religion, i told you about my family, my culture, bible scriptures with black/africans involved. i told you about ethiopia and them having the oldest bible in the world, i told you about louise leakey who found some of the earliest bones in kenya and became a kikuyu. i told you how my great grandfather translated the first kimeru bible, and aside from those things ive seen the positive things that have transpired in my life and my familys life
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf pt2..I know your parent must have gotten enemous wealth from this religion for a long time,am not,infact i cant convince you at all,doing that is like taken the horse and forcing it to drink...u see, i can forsee ur ambition of building more churches in afrika,well is ok,it will increase ur income but the poor people would surfer...remember they sweat to pay tides.
osemoboable 1 month ago
@osemoboable my response to your part 2, lol my great grandfather not my parent lol, made enough to provide for him and his seven children, he wasnt a preacher he was an educater a head master, he built one church and 10 schools in his tribal area, he didnt die a millionaire but because of his faith in God and the things he did both in pre colonial and post colonial kenya he was always taken care of by the people he helped.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable my response to your part 2 cont. my great grandfather helped liberate kenya from colonialism and was an adviser to two presidents, so dont compare yourself to him, he was man amongst men, and with the little he had he came from the bottom, shed blood for independence, and educated his people, he has a legacy something not to many people get to have his faith was only a small part of that.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 3 while following christs philosophy and teaching. you say that christianity is a cult, yet your faith follows a man that never claimed to be what you say he was, you can argue that about christ but selassie is recent and ive proved that through this whole discussion/argument. GOD almighty is the last Judge and the most righteous. if i kill someone and i go before a judge and i tell him "but ive done so many other good things in my life" and he lets me go is he a good judge?.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf pt 3. Then why expecting others to go to hell and only you to heaven,when you and i black. who brought this fake idea that you cant le go.just be good to people you meet on ur way,not because there is god,but that we living now and maybe we never see again;why must there be hell or heaven in this equation,after all we dont know where we were before we were born why worrying for the aftermath.
osemoboable 1 month ago
@osemoboable my response to your part 3. like i already said, God is a just God you think everyone who SAYS they believe in God will be able to stand ready at the judgement, if you live a righteous life and leave behind the life you had in the false world, then you prove through action who you serve and what you have become, the process of trying to be holy as jesus told us we should. if you ignore God, then consequently he will ignore you..that makes sense lol thats even in science.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf my respone to your part 3 cont. lol whats newtons third law? for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. this is an irrefutable law of the universe. if you hate God, or you blaspheme God, and forget him, then the opposite and equal response is that God will forget you as well. there is no place for you in heaven if you hate God, why because its his domain not yours. the only other place created is hell so by default you have one place to Go lol.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 4 no, you cant be a good judge if you dont follow through with the law. if a judge let a murderer go because of all the other good things i was doing on the street you would say he is not a good judge he doesnt judge according to the law. if you dont believe in God then you are judged according to his law and because you have a choice of letting jesus christ handle that for you and you dont want it then who's falt is that?. God is not a fool or an imbecile.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf ..pt4 Brain washing and sense dusting.
osemoboable 1 month ago
@osemoboable my response to pt 4 lol..okay..but you believe a man who denied being God is God. lol okay.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 5 now God created us in his image and through the knowledge of good and evil, we've come to be on par with God in our own minds, "what i find is good, therfore God must find it good because it makes sense to me. but God is not on par with you, when i did something wrong no matter how much my parents loved me i got punished because they were just parents. if i knew i wasnt going to be accountable for what i did then why would i have to respect my parents?. lol you understand?
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf pt 5. And an ant created by ant God in it image,so goes to dog and the talking serpent of your fairytale..If the fear is wisdom,then i surgest we have long generation to set things right. And no wonder you people place trust on weapons than man,you be happy telling me isreal is powerful because they are blessed and on sunday be glad to clap your hands as testimony of bliss for you been above your competitor. I know you already secure in mind a space for me in hell and its ok.
osemoboable 1 month ago
@osemoboable my respone to your part 5. your wrong sir, even the most millitant atheist recognizes the primacy of intellect. human beings are dominant because of our intelligent and our abiltity to build almost anything we imagine(hence God made man in his image). i dont understand what you said, but i have no animosity towards you, i have condemned you nor do i have the power, in God's eye as a human i am no different from you, save for the fact that i lean on God's strength through christ.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable my response to your part 5 cont. and by the way God didnt create the common dog, human beings did, by breeding captured wolves, we killed the agressive ones and kept the normal ones and then made variations. and i dont understand what your saying about israel, i have no bliss to be over my competitor, i am my own competitor christ said daily take up your own cross. so daily i try(not always successfull) to defeat the enemy with me as i move toward theosis. moving closer to God.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable my response to your part 5 cont part 2. and again brother, i dont have a place in hell secured for you in my mind. its not me to judge you, and if i dont keep my own eyes focused on my own sins, then i will fall down, for pride comes before a fall and after that destruction. so i dont look at people and say your going to hell, that does nothing to show humility, but if i love someone like my friend of family member it would be cruel of me not to reach out and share christ.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 6 another example. you are a man and i am a man. if i strike you in the face for no reason and you being a man with feelings, hit me right back, and then i said to you "why would you do that?". you'd look at me like i was crazy, because my action received an equal or more consequence. so if i have more respect for you as a man, not to strike you and to be curtious , why should God not be respected and feared.for he can destroy body and sould correct?.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf ..pt6 There you show your true colour again; when earthquake struck Haiti, churches start huming praises indirectly to that God saying it serve them right for they are voodoo worshipers,and just after the tsunami in Japan they again start roaring like lion in church den saying same, but only this time they say japan was an atheist country. So if its your God that is responsible what respect do rasta give, since you are soliciting for his fear.
osemoboable 1 month ago
@osemoboable my response to part 6. lol this whole paragrpah to what i said. my whole point was that God is more powerful than you, but if i have more fear of what you can do to me as a man, and i disrespect God how foolish would i be thinking he'd let me in then God has no authority over me in that scenario and i can do whatever i want lol.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable my response to part 6 and on the earth quake in haiti i only know pat robertson from 700 club said that, and that was disrespectfull, i live in south florida my friends are haitian. i dont know what church you've seen doing that but the church i attend sent people to jacmel since last 2010 and there still building houses and feeding people. haiti has plenty of christians as well they dont all practive voodoo and a death is sad. no christian should celebrate death and distruction.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable my respone to part 6 part 3 ill send you links so you can see it yourself alot of people talk about it but i'll show you.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 7 and go back to my comments long ago i already told you. jesus made inferences when he was talking about two certain cities saying that judgement would be worse for them than sodom. it doesnt take a genius to understand that people will receive just punishment, adolf hitler and the unbeliever down the street wont get punished the same way that wouldnt be just. that is for God to reserve the lake of fire is for satan and his minions who battle with God.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf ....My reply to pt7. For the pureness of our ancestors sake,do you read any comment from me in support of wickedness towards man kind,you on the other hand justify wickedness if only it comes from your God [ isrealites]. You are not my enemy even if you not a rasta,come on lets break this yoke.
osemoboable 1 month ago
@osemoboable my response to pt 7 again i dont understand half of what your saying lol. for first we have different ancestors but both yours and mine were warriors, with your ancestors probably part responsibe for the reason the atlantic slave trade was successfull, POW's, and slaves were sold to whites thats it. ive already explained to you the difference between a just punishment and wickedness, shooting someone in the head is wicked, executing a murderer is justice=difference.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 8 i already told you about the arabs and israelites as well, if you had read the prophecies you would understand that in itself is playing itself out. and life is as sweet as you make it, christ preached peace everywhere he went, yet the most attacked person in history is jesus christ yet he says in scripture that people will hate christians in the end of days because of there belief. All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved mat 10:22
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf ...My reply to pt 8. There was no time my people love christainity,our hands are tied when they came with their missionaries. So is baseless quoting ISREALITE verses on a black man like me.
osemoboable 1 month ago
@osemoboable my response to your part 8. i already showed it to you check the history books. dont believe the racial propaganda thats so readilly available, black inferiority comes from believing anything white people didnt come from us. christianity was in east africa atleast 200 years before it was legal to practice it in rome. ill send you a video on that one as well it was a bbc special you should check it out, not a conversion video but you'll see the culture.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 9 lol you said if christianty and islam dont exist only solution is rasta....??..thats incredibly ridiculous, if islam and christianity didnt exist, they'd be greco roman pantheism, judaism and all the other religions lol. people would probably be athiests or buddhists or something, rastafari wouldnt exist without christianity existing, the blacks in jamaica would still be pan africans if they were in slavery but the scriptures backing selassie wouldnt be there hence they would
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf My reply to pt 9. Words of adage were stolen from the lips of afrika ancient people,especially my people and then translated to bibble. Dont you wonder why the vetting and voting before it approval by kings i.e king james or which version are you quoting from? Put yourself in shoes of Jamaica and reminise what it takes for so long to come out of physical and soul deprivation and be able to ascertain that queens[england] are made and supported,thats civilsation,haile is king.
osemoboable 1 month ago
@osemoboable my reply to your part 9. words were stolen from the lips of ancient african people...??..and then trasnlated into the bible. the ethiopian bible was translated close to a millenium before rome split with constantinople in 1062, and before the king james versian which by the way wasnt translated by him it was translated by his scholars. who studied greek, aramaic, and hebrew. put the ethiopian bible and the kjv and their identical in translation. save ethiopia has two more books.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable my reply to your part 9 cont the two books are the book of enoch and an extra book of daniel. ethiopia and egypt had an argument on the nature of christ with the orthodox church in 451(look it up). the oriental orthodox churches are the egytian, ethiopian, eritriean, malanakara(india), syriac(founded in antioch and does services in aramaic the language of the hebrews in jesus' time), and armenian. lol none of these churches were founded by white people...none LOL
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable my reply to your part 9 cont pt 2. the fact that these churches were founded in such diverse places like eritria and india( thomas the doubter was killed here after he founded a church). and you have to understand africa and the middle east werent considered different thousand years ago, thats why in the bible ethiopia and sudan are frequently mentioned in the old testament. and the jews werent white semites as they are today. and what do you mean especially your people?
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable my reply to your part 9 cont pt 3 and on the jamaica situation both your country and mine were colonies of the england, exept mine was colonised in the late in 1800's. we had 50 different tribes that didnt always get along but we fought for our independence and rejected even the commonwealthship of england. on the fight for independence we have the same spirit and again as a human being to another human being your not my enemy.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 10 no reason to believe in him. now ive countered everything you said from christianity being a white supremist religion, my ancestors belief system which i already told you on both sides was one God lol and christianity in africa since the 1st century, on richard dawkins(atheist) and louise leakey(christian/white kikuyu tribesman). to jesus christ and haile selassie. so what else is there to discuss? lol.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf ..pt 1. we have just begin and none of ur reason stands slide as am still and firm ok. Rasta far i liveth itinually,seen.
osemoboable 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 2 u said u hate isms but said your closer to atheism than christianity. and on ism. rastafarianism is an ism which is defined:A distinctive practice, system, or philosophy, typically a political ideology or an artistic movement. which it is as it comes out of panafricanism. the same argument can be made for christians, is it relationship or religion?..its a way of life..see this game can be played from both ends.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 3 sorry in my first response i spelled and and mutabaraka's name wrong my appologies.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 2. for example the israelittes were slaves and they were treated badly so they codified and simplified there own slavery laws. after 7 years a slave was freed and given property, if the slave chose to stay permanently he would gain an inheritence for his children from the slave owner etc. the europeans and arabs didnt have any vaccines to enter africa so from the coastal forts they were able to trade with tribal cheiftans for gold, slaves, for guns and various minerals.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 3 the brutal atlantic slave trade was a product of the american and english masters which have graffic detail and usually had permanent slavery. the english also captured scottish and irish prisoner of war as well as the poor and vagrants of their society. i never knew that till i started going to college but yeah the english even had white slaves. look up farmer Hugh Gwyn three servants in maryland who ran away two were white and one was black all were sentenced to 4 years as
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 4 slaves. slavery was rampant everywhere in the world, from africans owning africans to europeans owning europeans to native americans owning other native americans and etc.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 9 oh and the child naming process or antagu system was done to honor our parents, with the hope that the child encompasses the behavior or attributes of the parent being honored and so that the child would be connected to there grandparent for life, hence an oral history can still tell you your family history with great detail. oh and im in america by the way too.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 4 t is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery. galatians 5:1. For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, "Abba, Father. Romans 8:15 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom 2 Corinthians 3:17
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 5 this philosophy of black oppression is not a product of christianity its the product of european atlantic slave trade. jesus christ began his ministry in an occupied country and preached freedom to everyone he met. the first non jewish convert to christianity was the ethiopian slave who was ministered through steven. the new testament mentions freedom through christ in almost every chapter in the bible yet people have chosen to reduce it to racial propaganda.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 6 God will destroy his enemies in a lake of fire, why does that bother you?. the reason confusion and murder and ridiculous doctrines exist is because the principalities not of this earth have deluded its people. demons and devils will burn. but hell is a choice for human, because its not all burning lakes, at its core its seperation from God, if you deny God should not also deny you?.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf .....This life we have is the only one and when you die your work and past deeds lives in the mind of people just like selassia in my heart;withthis i am a change person,not bias,but i wont stand witnessing another man doing evil in the name of lord like stoning a prostitute or buying a human as slave just because the koran and the bible permits. So give honour to those who is due to like;Selassia,Christopher hitchens,Mark twain and the only living prophect Richard dawkin,
osemoboable 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 7 lol people put God as some sort of benevolent dope as if you do whatever you want in this life they will be no consequence. while we human beings judge each other in courts of law with justs judged who sentence people, are they wrong?. if you steal you got jail, if you go to jail. but if you disrespect God almighty, and refuse the sacrifice of his son for your sins, you expect the almighty to be less just than a human judge?. lol ahahaha this world is trully fallen.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 5 as i said before God is no intruder, he may knock but he will not run through, when you open up yourself to a relationship with God. the apocrypha were a bunch of books left out of the council of nicene because there date of authorship fell years after any gospel witness lived. end of story mark died in around 64 a.d at around 60 years old making it more than likley he saw christ(infact pentacost happened at his house) so that argumentis refutable and dead.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 6 if you dont need to be preached to to become rasta then how can one convert to it?. The bible makes no claim you see?. a child is born greedy and selfish without discipline it remains the same, with direction you point an arrow in the right direction and if the arrow weilds it can be of use to whomever weilds the bow. i drew closer to God and he drew closer to me through the person of jesus christ who is, was and always will be God almighty. the choice is ours though.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf ...YOu know its just lies,how can u draw close to God, and by the way which God? Am Black and we are all gods but Selessia is God cant u understand and if u dont u can go back to isreal and the rasta go back to Ethiopia meaning Afrika ok. And i dont even know the version you quoting is it the King James Edtion; Oh you make me cry, come joins us for new print with our ancestors names included ok.
osemoboable 1 month ago
@osemoboable lol your black and you are all gods, were does this belief stem from. im black and there is only one God, who manifested himself in the manner of christ. if you believe that everyone is a god then your deluded by false teachings. christianity was in africa, churches were established there and even the 66 book canon was approved before the nicene council by the bishop of alexandra , the copts and the ethiopians before it was voted on.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf ...The bible was approved and voted on;then why cant rasta have their God with out your approval or are we not human beings who were once babies.
osemoboable 1 month ago
@osemoboable pt 2 im not going to stake my lfie on lies, ive become close to God and in doing so i see the person that i am as a man, and i dont see myself as better than anyone. and what do you mean can a man be naturally a property of man?. your the property of yourself, therefore you control what you do, what you wont do etc. if you believe in christ and that he is lord, you live according to what he would do, what he taught and practiced. hence you bend the knee to God.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf ..The latest closest way to God is by acepting Selassia and with him in your mind u dont need alliance for the future would be bright with out war; but if you divert then glory be to u and ur isrealites were ur faith leads u to,though u believe in a God that will destroy the world and rapture people for what i dont know; Infact who planted this evil thought on man kind to trust on weapons than love,what has rasta done that u are so bitter about?We dont make guns but songs ok.
osemoboable 1 month ago
@MrNanabrobbey Indeed you keep Jesus and read Matthew and Luke and tell me if the lineage match up with the 2...if it corresponds...
RASTA LIVE...children yeaah....Yah Bless
IsraeliteJacob 2 months ago
@IsraeliteJacob lol theres no hebrew word for father in law or son in law, and even the fact that two lineages proves the legitimacy of an account. if me and you walk into a police station and testify with the same exact story word for word, we coconspiratd, but if me and you give different accounts with similar stories and an exact name logically that was truth, luke gives mary's geneology and mathew gives jospehs genology. give or take levirate marriage and fathers being fathers in law.
tksmurf 2 months ago
@IsraeliteJacob pt 2 you must remember laws such as wedding your brothers wife if he dies, and when a man marries his wife, her father can consider him to be his son. and on and on. luke goes through jesus' blood relative mary all the way to nathan, and through his adopted father joseph. through either line he is a decendant of david making him an eligibale candidate for messiah.
tksmurf 2 months ago
@tksmurf is it true that jews put blood in the wine when they get married?
Capitancanguro1 1 month ago
@Capitancanguro1 lol seriously? no they dont there actually quite fun though you should attend a jewish wedding, very warm people. some of my friends from high school went to spanish river, so ive been to weddings with them lol no blood.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf Study the history of children killed by jews to get they blood.
Capitancanguro1 1 month ago
@Capitancanguro1 please send me this history if you have it, because im a christian but my jewish friends never tried to take my blood, but if you have a story about this i genuinley(not sarcastic) would like to read this.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf Look on Google for ARNOLD S LEESE .
Capitancanguro1 1 month ago
@Capitancanguro1 oh yeah..he was a facist guy and he was anti semetic and he went to jail for anti semetic remarks and helping some nazis escape prison.....i dont understand what that has to do with the jews. are you a christian?
tksmurf 1 month ago
@tksmurf ARNOLD S LEESE WROTE THE HISTORY OF THE KILLING AND CHILDREN FOR THEY BLOOD, ITS RECORDED HISTORY, OF COURSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU TRY TO ATTACK HIM NOT THE HISTORY.
Capitancanguro1 1 month ago
@Capitancanguro1 lol im not trying to attack he might have been a good person, but he did help nazi's escape from prison and he was anti semetic. and he also hated armenians, which is sad because the kardashians look like fun lol.
tksmurf 1 month ago
@MrNanabrobbey pt 2 "1966 "One Gospel, One Race, One Task" in berlin "The love shown by our God to mankind should constrain all of us who are followers and disciples of Christ, to do all in our power to see to it that the message of salvation is carried to those of our fellows for whom Christ our Savior was sacrificed but who have not had the benefit of hearing the good news.” selassie himself declared who his savior was, he is void of blame on the day of judgment.
tksmurf 2 months ago
@tksmurf Selassie is the Christ, i think you need to find the meaning of Christ then you can say what you just said,we are waiting to see the fall of the wicked, the Nuclear weapons and chemical weapons they have created for them self just to be leaders under the sun,so stop waiting for Jesus to come from the sky to tell you what you can do to bring peace on earth rather than you telling your leaders to stop building nuclear war head.
MrNanabrobbey 2 months ago
@MrNanabrobbey pt 2 and what does nuclear bombs have to do with selassie being christ my friend?. the world already has a negative conotation about nuclear war heads, if you made this statement in the 80's during the cold war it would make sense but since then the u.s and russia have stopped building nukes because they have enough, i listen to the book period, i dont let outsiders brain wash and i pray that God reveals his truth to you, that haile selassie was a subject of christ therfore KOK.
tksmurf 2 months ago
@tksmurf Selah.
MrNanabrobbey 2 months ago
He Did Everything That Could Be Done To Transform Ethiopia From A Tribal Feudal Society To The Modern State Of Ethiopia We Know Today Most Of The Reforms He Made And The Infastructure He Set Up Still Serves Ethiopia Today So With That Said Whoever Is Talking About H.I.M And Dont Know What There Saying Should go Read A Book And Check Ur History And Youll See The Important role haile Selassie Played In The 21st Century
bzeconnection 3 months ago 2
It Is Idiotic To Judge Haile Selassie By Modern And Western Standards He Lived In A Time And A Society Very Much Diffrent From What we Know As A Person Of African Descent I Highly Regard H.I.M As Saviour Of African Pride And Unity He Got Too Powerful And Was Too Much Of A Threat In African Preaching And Lobbying For African United As A Continent To Become One Like United States Of America That Scared The World So The Seeds Were Planted For The Demise Of The Empire!!!
bzeconnection 3 months ago
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Haile Selassie was a murder, he was behind the kill on the Eritrean people, his country is a loser country like ass licking U.S. and hates the Arab countries...
rastafari is a joke, it's a group of ignorant pot heads who believe their god Haile Selassie. Fuck Ehiopia and Haile Selassie burn them all and praise the Eritreans
MsBlackbusiness 4 months ago
He is feudal common criminal. He was not interested in well being of Ethiopia except trumpeting his own name and fame. Fame created by European for European. He followed by Durg and by Meles >> Do you think they are sent from your God hidden somewhere. They are all self serving. Gabitto!
sickconservatives 4 months ago
@sickconservatives shut up
dyhard678 4 months ago
Ethiopia is the worlds laughing stock in every department. What H Selassie, then Dereg, and the present government did despite making worse than it was before. Instead of exploiting western sympathy to his advantage and build primitive Ethiopia to modern days, he indulge in making wishi -- washi speeches here and there and considered hero by people like you.
In the country or continent of the blinds stupid one eyed man can be considered as a king. Gabitto!
@dyhard678
sickconservatives 4 months ago
@sickconservatives LIKE I SAID B4 SHUT UP. YOU SOUND STUPID.
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