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I don´t think it was like this. Women, espeacially aristocratic ones, were not allowed to behave so freely in that time. And what their husbands said was law, she would have embarrassed the king if she had expressed her own will.
@KarlMartell732 Actually, Marie was really disrespectful of her husband, unusually so for a woman her age. She did at times deceive him, gambling behind his back and at times setting the clock ahead to get rid of him sooner so she could go out to the opera without him. That was a huge part the aristos began to despise her so much, because her husband was King of France and she didn't respect him as a king or man.
Well I think the nobles wondered how a man who wasn´t able to control his wife could rule a state. They had good reasons to despise Marie, she endangered the whole system, like the tsar´s wife in Russia more than a century later.
The court of Versailles was actually pretty rigid and strait-laced, conservative. I like the movie but it´s rather Hollwood imagination than history.
@KarlMartell732 Not to mention that Marie and her husband were actually teenagers when they got married, and forced to rule a whole nation. We couldn't expect them to be the most mature people in the world or the most serious ones. Teenage girls are like that... love frivolities. That's part of being a teenage girl.
It was a real terrible joke from the destiny. If Louis' parents haven't died so young, they would rule after the king, and not he and Marie.
Louis hadn´t got a strong personality, deep reforms were needed. The expensive court life of Versailles was obsolete in the late 18th century, because the nobles were no danger to the throne anymore. Versailles had succesfully estranged them from their own provinces and will to power, they were already a bunch of decadent morons. The royal family should have abandoned the court and returned to Paris to the striving bourgeoisie, the coming leading social power. Louis failed that.
You're wrong. To a degree it was Marie, but actually most of the debt was because he was sending troops and finances to America, it really was. If you take a look back at the history of it, she did spend quite a bit, but they raised taxes because of him being mislead by his financial advisor.
I didn´t mean that she was the actual main reason, but people tend to create symbols of their misery. Nationalism began to develop at that time and the fact that she was austrian infuriated the people even more. She was just the symbol of an ignorant and distant regime.
Kirsten Dunst was perfect in her performance. First as the naive teenager, shipped off to a foreign, isolated enviornment and then as the depressed queen, hated by her people and made the scapegoat of a nation. It's breathaking to watch her progress as the film does. The character's personality is so bubbly at the beginning, but you can tell there's a lot of mysterious quality underneath.
A lot of people forget that it wasn't her job to run the nation; her only fault is that hse didn't do her duties in the Palace which she admittedly did shirk.
I love the whole soundtrack of this great movie, but this one "Ceremony" makes me feel great, I never got tired to see this movie 100s times, the history its amazing. Marie Antoinettes B'day its my fave scene.
@divagirl408 ur right , but her execution was horrible!, like there was 2 heads of the soilders from the palace in the carriage while they take her to paris!, so maybe it would be nice in the movie..., lol just my opinion sorry =)
@ContagiousRandomness Oh. I thought that she was queen at 15.... I didn't know the other King wasn't dead yet.....hmm. Apparently my social studies teacher didn't explain EVRYTHING about the Revolution...
@Spottedheart98464 Haha, oohhh thats alright. I mean helloooo even Hollywood got it wrong! God I wish I could have just met her and then I would no everything I wanted about her!!!
Even Hollywood?! Hollywood is often the worst offender in historical inaccuracy, if not blatantly rewriting it. See numerous WWII films for evidence of this :)
she was a teenager and was given power as such a young age without and education on how to behave like a queen from her mother i would of been the same too party all day and spend money on clothes what teenage girl doesnt do that
@1536anne Excuse me for my bad english, just one little detail, many of the information of Marie Antoinnette is false, she was educated like a noble woman in that age, her rol as a queen was just bring to france an heir... that's all, even all (I mean, in her all life) her dresses and jewels didn't cost more like only one war of Lois XV, The Court of France hate her because she was from Austria...and invented all the rumors about her :(
@1536anne but U'r right she was a teenager, she get married at 15 years old, and get the title of Dauphine, at 18 she becomes Queen of France: her husband, Lois August lines at the Lois XV dead was: LORD BLESS US, WE ARE VERY YOUNG TO REIGN...u.u...
@1536anne Actually when I did a research about her...she was well educated...she and her siblings were even encouraged by their parents to talk and play with the commoners. In order for them to truly see the reality of life. Its just that...yes a factor is that she is very young. And she would always shop and gamble and party to take out the pressure she is in because she cannot bear any children coz Louis couldn't really do the deed with her...basically she did a LOT of retail therapy....
@oberk3s29 yeah, it's true. in the other hand Louis was a very very introvert person, which is the opposite of Marie Antoinette herself, he even has a hobby to make keys because he couldn't interact with others very well. (as if you remember in the movie line where Kirsten Dunst said "I heard making keys makes you as a hobby")
She was used as a pawn by her domineering mother. With little or no training her mother didn't think it was necessary. As long as she was pretty, that's all that counted.
But looks only take you so far and after time if that's all you got your crewed. Louis XVI had neither looks or personality or brains.
While I love this film and the way it glorifies Versailles my wish is that all of France at the time could partake in the Versailles parties. Sad that while this was going on most were starving.
@freshfaceex3 Well the movie came out in 06 and most places you can find it online for 9 bucks lol I don't have the movie either and have been wanting it forever, Im sure you can find it online for cheap without going broke.
What is cool in this movie is the part where Sofia Coppola shows how the french king insisted in helping the americnans against the english. Gotta hate it freedom fries eater!!
Ooh anyone notice the foreshadowing at the end? She keeps winning but when Louis tells her not to lose their fortune, she appears to have lost! Hmmmmm
i love Marie Antoinette. She's my second favorite queen (well she's tied with elizabeth 1. with Anne Boleyn being my absolute favorite) Sure she spent a lot of money but i've never met a teenager who doesnt love new things or spending money so instead of down playing her and saying she wasn't "clever" think about how many 18 year olds you know who could run a country successfully. just about all of them would end up running the country into the ground with their heads cut off or worse!
@KrunkPrincess15 Well.. the word "teenager" is not really applicable to the 18th century, but that's the way the director chose to see Marie Antoinette's character... see also the lilac Converse chucks in the candy scene.
@laspilly You're right no one was really a teen. you were either grown or a child but we live in a mindset where you can be in between so when judging her now we use the mindset that she was still not an adult-mentally and as far as maturity goes. I do understand why they executed and hated her back then but i don't approve. i do truly understand that she was viewed as being a grown woman but really she was just a kidd.
@KrunkPrincess15 i'm pretty sure childhood is a concept of the 20th century. before then children were viewed as miniature adults. as for the revolution of course she and her fam didn't deserve to die she didn't choose her life or to be married off to a french dauphin. but i also sympathize with the common ppl. they had struggles as well and many of the common ppl fell victim to rospierres reign of terror. women and children in that group as well. marie died at 38 so by then she was not a kid
@fleurgi yes i agree childhood is a 20th century concept but what i'm saying is when we're judging her now, we should keep that in mind. it wasn't a concept back then so they were hard on her, now we do have the concept so we can afford some lieniency. i do understand the commoners side of things as well. and sure at 38 she was no child in any way shape or form but to be spending money for yrs and then all of a sudden have to stop would be hard for anyone especially a monarch.
Though technically a Joy Division song unless you saw them in concert you never had a chance to enjoy it as Still blows version wise.....nice pic with the movie.....the NO version is clean
If you look at the facts we have from diaries ,memoirs etc you would be amazed at how formally & respectfully royalty spoke to each other. Sir and sometimes titular shorts were used.and the most formal language of the time.It's better when movies show the coldness of court protocol and life.I love this movie but it is very far from true! Lamballe & Fersen were her only true friends.Everyone wanted something.ThePolignacs deserted her w 6000 other nobles who got exit visas after bastille!
When do humans or people whatever you want to call them act like this in modern times? I don't see anyone but the teenage girls enjoying their lives, disappointing their fathers, and living for only the moment without thinking of the future or the past. Thats is a life that truly and naturally, everybody could yearn. We just block ourselves from our potential by other responsibilities, and it irritates me that I cannot not be happy like those who are. It's both vengeful envy and pity for me.
the aristocracy of the 18th century were'nt that far removed from what is now the oc. seems rather accurate to me. i get what you are saying, but the film was never meant to be a historical masterpiece. take it for what it is.
oh god your replies are so boring and unimaginative I guess the fun stops here oh wait I can sense another hastily articulated comment the username that sounds like a deodorant. Have fun with your computer.
It's a frothy confection, a gorgeously wrapped present with nothing inside -- empty shoes, empty marriage, empty heads. I think that's the whole point!
The French invented living as an art form - food, sex and fashion.
MA was famous for playing cards like "nain jaune" in Versailles court but not for playing games of dices. But she was very very very famous for being a bad player and a huge looser !!!!! Parisian ppl knew so much her reputation at games....
I absolutely adore Marie Antoinette and New Order!! Both just fabulous!! It totally bugs the hell out of me how everyone thinks of Marie as negative. The reason is because she was only 18 when she became queen!! She didn't want to rule a kingdom and she wasn't ready. She just wanted to have fun and try to do her best ruling but it was hard since she was dragged into it and her husband wouldn't communicate with her. Anyways, overall she tried her best. God Bless Marie Antoinette!!
i dont think bad of her i agree wih u thats why we have child labor laws today it sux what happened to her she was more of just a good mother there for her kids then rule over a country that had no future back then in the first place but at least she had the time of her life tho thank god for that
I agree for a different reason. I love the Rococo era, where worries of the world were forgotten, and aristocrats partied all every night on the expense of the country. I adore that the royalty of France lived a luxurious life, while others went hungry. I know I sound like a tyrant, but if some people have to go hungry for the pleasures of Versailles, them I'm all for it!
She actually did rule moderatly well. She did work on cutting the government spending of France. The problem being she cut positions that the rest of the elite did not agree with, i.e. pointless staff positions.
Additonally, she gets blamed for much of the expenditures but people forget that Louie made committiments to support the U.S. revolution against Great Britian.
@lil80schick She was naive, and she couldn't even handle her own kids. Only 1 of her 5 kids survived, died of various reasons. And her last words, was "Pardon me Sir, I meant not to do it" because she had stepped on the executioner's foot. And don't think she is the first one to rule at a young age. So can't see why you adore her so much, she wasn't that clever.
@T1B3R1AS, speaking of not being clever, she only had 4 children. It wasn't uncommon to have several children die at young ages, with the lack of medical science at that time. Because her children died of common diseases, this means she couldn't handle them? And do you not understand the point of her last statement? It showed her polite nature, even when faced with certain death. I suggest you do some research on MA and not just a skim of a wiki page.
@lil80schick You know films are not real? Although i love Coppola's movie, it is a modern vision of MA. In the 18th century, especially in that rank by the age of 18 you were fully adult and entitled to behave as such. Although considering MA like a contemporary teenager is great for fiction and drama, it is completely inaccurate. If you really like the character you should check how after the revolution she rose as a real monarch with strength and dignity. Zweig's bography's amaizing.
@lil80schick You know films are not real? Although i love Coppola's movie, it is a modern vision of MA. In the 18th century, especially in that rank by the age of 18 you were fully adult and entitled to behave as such. Although considering MA like a contemporary teenager is great for fiction and drama, it is completely inaccurate. If you really like the character you should check how after the revolution she rose as a real monarch with strength and dignity. Zweig's bography's amaizing.
@jplully "Ceremony" is originally a Joy Division song.
Joy Division only performed the song a couple of times live before Ian Curtis committed suicide, leaving only bad quality live recordings of the song behind. Afterward, the surviving members of Joy Division formed New Order. They re-recorded "Ceremony" and released it under their new name.
I really loved the little exchange between marie and louis. i think, despite the affair and "difficulties" in their marriage earlier on, they really did care for each other. just not in the deeply romantic sense. they grew up together, so they must have developed a meaningful bond.
i remember i did a marie antoinette party for my fifteenth birthday...this scene inspired my thoughts for it. my ultimate favourite scene! go marie! =) lol
I wish I could have this kind of life too
zaza588 1 month ago
@FredNotJorge I wish!!!
1992junekid 1 month ago
Imagine if life was like this everyday...
FredNotJorge 2 months ago 3
@FredNotJorge you wouldn't enjoy as a rare moment....
bobduvar 2 months ago
@bobduvar Rude.
FredNotJorge 1 month ago
This is how I plan on spending my 19th birthday.
Say what you like about her but, to the very end, she was regal and she knew how to party.
:D
startobe1992 3 months ago 3
I Love her ,its to bad the people Turned on her.
judetunes1 3 months ago
I lawwwf your hair, now what's going on there?
Everything.
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libertarianjury 4 months ago
I just now saw the Leonard blows out the candles behind her, because she almost light her hair on fire! LOL
greenapple0608 5 months ago
I don´t think it was like this. Women, espeacially aristocratic ones, were not allowed to behave so freely in that time. And what their husbands said was law, she would have embarrassed the king if she had expressed her own will.
KarlMartell732 7 months ago
@KarlMartell732 Actually, Marie was really disrespectful of her husband, unusually so for a woman her age. She did at times deceive him, gambling behind his back and at times setting the clock ahead to get rid of him sooner so she could go out to the opera without him. That was a huge part the aristos began to despise her so much, because her husband was King of France and she didn't respect him as a king or man.
TheNuharoo 7 months ago
@TheNuharoo
Well I think the nobles wondered how a man who wasn´t able to control his wife could rule a state. They had good reasons to despise Marie, she endangered the whole system, like the tsar´s wife in Russia more than a century later.
The court of Versailles was actually pretty rigid and strait-laced, conservative. I like the movie but it´s rather Hollwood imagination than history.
KarlMartell732 7 months ago
@KarlMartell732 Not to mention that Marie and her husband were actually teenagers when they got married, and forced to rule a whole nation. We couldn't expect them to be the most mature people in the world or the most serious ones. Teenage girls are like that... love frivolities. That's part of being a teenage girl.
It was a real terrible joke from the destiny. If Louis' parents haven't died so young, they would rule after the king, and not he and Marie.
valericool 7 months ago
@valericool
Louis hadn´t got a strong personality, deep reforms were needed. The expensive court life of Versailles was obsolete in the late 18th century, because the nobles were no danger to the throne anymore. Versailles had succesfully estranged them from their own provinces and will to power, they were already a bunch of decadent morons. The royal family should have abandoned the court and returned to Paris to the striving bourgeoisie, the coming leading social power. Louis failed that.
KarlMartell732 7 months ago
@KarlMartell732 true.
valericool 7 months ago
@KarlMartell732
You're wrong. To a degree it was Marie, but actually most of the debt was because he was sending troops and finances to America, it really was. If you take a look back at the history of it, she did spend quite a bit, but they raised taxes because of him being mislead by his financial advisor.
thefiresin 7 months ago
@thefiresin
I didn´t mean that she was the actual main reason, but people tend to create symbols of their misery. Nationalism began to develop at that time and the fact that she was austrian infuriated the people even more. She was just the symbol of an ignorant and distant regime.
KarlMartell732 7 months ago
1:14 they had coke in france during that time?
BelledelaGroove 7 months ago
@BelledelaGroove Just tobacco....
bobduvar 7 months ago
"I love your hair. What's going on there?" "Everything." My favorite lines of the entire movie :)
fujuwarayumi 7 months ago
@fujuwarayumi Aha yes!!! So funny xD I love those frilly, silly lines :D
YlicecLyric 7 months ago
what game are they playing here?
badpuppy282 8 months ago
omg if i was given 10 million dollars it would be gone by the end of the week.
x0ticShwty 8 months ago
I still believe it should be in French!!!!!!!
quickdemonshadow 8 months ago
@quickdemonshadow There is a French version of the movie.
ButterfliNabi 8 months ago
What is that girl snorting at 1:16? Opium?
roooose16 9 months ago
@roooose16 Yes
ButterfliNabi 8 months ago
Excellent film and track
flatsfishingonline 9 months ago
yea...French ppl speaking with an English accent...lol
sw33tnl 9 months ago
"Love your hair...what's going on there...everything !" Priceless- how illustrative of this opulent decadance..I love it !
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Wow i love this movie
animalslover555 10 months ago
ah man this movie is so bomb, and i love the music, i used to watch this movie all the time when i was in high school so it brings back memories
fckinlikeyeah 10 months ago
Kirsten Dunst was perfect in her performance. First as the naive teenager, shipped off to a foreign, isolated enviornment and then as the depressed queen, hated by her people and made the scapegoat of a nation. It's breathaking to watch her progress as the film does. The character's personality is so bubbly at the beginning, but you can tell there's a lot of mysterious quality underneath.
ilovetati91 10 months ago 3
She was too young to know any better. I'd do the same thing too. Not too sure at 16 or 17 i'd be worried about what went on beyond the castle walls.
9265704 10 months ago
A lot of people forget that it wasn't her job to run the nation; her only fault is that hse didn't do her duties in the Palace which she admittedly did shirk.
TheNuharoo 9 months ago
Nooooooo you cut out the best part, when they run out to see the sunrise!!! :(
tomoyopop 11 months ago
were they doing opium or something?
Eidolin 1 year ago
@Eidolin Cocaine.
exxxys 9 months ago
I love the whole soundtrack of this great movie, but this one "Ceremony" makes me feel great, I never got tired to see this movie 100s times, the history its amazing. Marie Antoinettes B'day its my fave scene.
lorenns 1 year ago 37
@lorenns i feel exactly the same
beckymt123 9 months ago
I love this film, but i was a little disappointed went they didn't show her execution at the end.
divagirl408 1 year ago 4
@divagirl408 ur right , but her execution was horrible!, like there was 2 heads of the soilders from the palace in the carriage while they take her to paris!, so maybe it would be nice in the movie..., lol just my opinion sorry =)
antonalizee 1 year ago
My favorite scence !!!!!
gaarapride 1 year ago
They say it's her 18th birthday but I thought she wasn't a queen until she was 19?
ContagiousRandomness 1 year ago
@ContagiousRandomness She married King Louis XVI when she was 15
Spottedheart98464 1 year ago
@Spottedheart98464 i know that (actually she was 14) and she became the dauphine, but she didnt become queen until the king died when she was 19.
ContagiousRandomness 1 year ago
@ContagiousRandomness Oh. I thought that she was queen at 15.... I didn't know the other King wasn't dead yet.....hmm. Apparently my social studies teacher didn't explain EVRYTHING about the Revolution...
Spottedheart98464 1 year ago
@Spottedheart98464 Haha, oohhh thats alright. I mean helloooo even Hollywood got it wrong! God I wish I could have just met her and then I would no everything I wanted about her!!!
ContagiousRandomness 1 year ago
@ContagiousRandomness
Even Hollywood?! Hollywood is often the worst offender in historical inaccuracy, if not blatantly rewriting it. See numerous WWII films for evidence of this :)
ballyhigh11 1 year ago
This is one of my favourite scenes (along with the Count Fersen affair, Masquarade Ball, and I Want Candy scenes).
I like how they imcorporated the "Glass sound" from an earlier scene.
MadonnasMrDj 1 year ago 2
I just feel so good.
oOStulleOo 1 year ago
she was a teenager and was given power as such a young age without and education on how to behave like a queen from her mother i would of been the same too party all day and spend money on clothes what teenage girl doesnt do that
1536anne 1 year ago 82
@1536anne Excuse me for my bad english, just one little detail, many of the information of Marie Antoinnette is false, she was educated like a noble woman in that age, her rol as a queen was just bring to france an heir... that's all, even all (I mean, in her all life) her dresses and jewels didn't cost more like only one war of Lois XV, The Court of France hate her because she was from Austria...and invented all the rumors about her :(
ariadna1234567890 7 months ago
@1536anne but U'r right she was a teenager, she get married at 15 years old, and get the title of Dauphine, at 18 she becomes Queen of France: her husband, Lois August lines at the Lois XV dead was: LORD BLESS US, WE ARE VERY YOUNG TO REIGN...u.u...
ariadna1234567890 7 months ago
@1536anne Actually when I did a research about her...she was well educated...she and her siblings were even encouraged by their parents to talk and play with the commoners. In order for them to truly see the reality of life. Its just that...yes a factor is that she is very young. And she would always shop and gamble and party to take out the pressure she is in because she cannot bear any children coz Louis couldn't really do the deed with her...basically she did a LOT of retail therapy....
oberk3s29 5 months ago
@oberk3s29 yeah, it's true. in the other hand Louis was a very very introvert person, which is the opposite of Marie Antoinette herself, he even has a hobby to make keys because he couldn't interact with others very well. (as if you remember in the movie line where Kirsten Dunst said "I heard making keys makes you as a hobby")
cliffto6 1 month ago
the best scene. (:
Zuckerwattekind 1 year ago
She was used as a pawn by her domineering mother. With little or no training her mother didn't think it was necessary. As long as she was pretty, that's all that counted.
But looks only take you so far and after time if that's all you got your crewed. Louis XVI had neither looks or personality or brains.
The worst people to rule France at the wost time.
poodtang1 1 year ago 3
That was her 18th birthday party! I wish mine had been that awsome!
lizzardgirl 1 year ago
@lizzardgirl however bad yours was, it couldn't have been worse than mine.
SvalbardJanMayen1976 1 year ago
Haha...they are snorting coke
transfoby 1 year ago
@transfoby It's snuff
wallflowersfreeze 1 year ago
@wallflowersfreeze Whatever it is...they sniff it...This was a ref to coke snorting
transfoby 1 year ago
While I love this film and the way it glorifies Versailles my wish is that all of France at the time could partake in the Versailles parties. Sad that while this was going on most were starving.
lltrf 1 year ago
@lltrf Who cares...many are starving these days as well
transfoby 1 year ago
@transfoby let them eat kake fuck them po fo
bluntley420 1 year ago
@lltrf
thats why they got their head chopped out
vivelarevolution
ZOVIETZOMBIE 1 year ago
Rose Bryne rocks in this movie she is sooo pretty
TheTheRP1 1 year ago
i love this scene and song
fleurgi 1 year ago
you guys have no idea how many comments i've gotten saying "why dont you just buy the dvd if you love it so much"..etc etc etc..
Yeah sure, I could blow 20 bucks on the dvd..or spend that 20 bucks on food and rent...
decisions, decisions...
freshfaceex3 1 year ago
@freshfaceex3 it shouldn't cost that much now. this is a older movie, and i'm sure you could find it used for super cheap.....
ChannelHMC 1 year ago
@freshfaceex3 Well the movie came out in 06 and most places you can find it online for 9 bucks lol I don't have the movie either and have been wanting it forever, Im sure you can find it online for cheap without going broke.
olexia07 1 year ago
great new order!
francyV86 1 year ago
love the mean girls quote drop by leonard!
"i love your hair, whats going on there?"
"everything."
*laughs*
"its full of secrets."
magnetxxella 1 year ago 2
What is cool in this movie is the part where Sofia Coppola shows how the french king insisted in helping the americnans against the english. Gotta hate it freedom fries eater!!
AmAxOReload 1 year ago
favorite song ever
fleurgi 1 year ago
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apmld 1 year ago
Did someone notice they are snorting cocaine in 1:13 ?
shantar123 1 year ago
The movies Marie Antoinette is a beautifal,very beautifal
maryy981 1 year ago
hello marie antoinette
lareinaadolecente 1 year ago
Ooh anyone notice the foreshadowing at the end? She keeps winning but when Louis tells her not to lose their fortune, she appears to have lost! Hmmmmm
TheTrianonmusic 1 year ago
i love Marie Antoinette. She's my second favorite queen (well she's tied with elizabeth 1. with Anne Boleyn being my absolute favorite) Sure she spent a lot of money but i've never met a teenager who doesnt love new things or spending money so instead of down playing her and saying she wasn't "clever" think about how many 18 year olds you know who could run a country successfully. just about all of them would end up running the country into the ground with their heads cut off or worse!
KrunkPrincess15 1 year ago
marie antoinette
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lareinaadolecente 1 year ago
She spent way too much money!, no wonder she died.
prinzesspegasus 1 year ago
@prinzesspegasus she was a teenager that's all teens do
KrunkPrincess15 1 year ago
@KrunkPrincess15 Well.. the word "teenager" is not really applicable to the 18th century, but that's the way the director chose to see Marie Antoinette's character... see also the lilac Converse chucks in the candy scene.
laspilly 1 year ago
@laspilly You're right no one was really a teen. you were either grown or a child but we live in a mindset where you can be in between so when judging her now we use the mindset that she was still not an adult-mentally and as far as maturity goes. I do understand why they executed and hated her back then but i don't approve. i do truly understand that she was viewed as being a grown woman but really she was just a kidd.
KrunkPrincess15 1 year ago
@KrunkPrincess15 i'm pretty sure childhood is a concept of the 20th century. before then children were viewed as miniature adults. as for the revolution of course she and her fam didn't deserve to die she didn't choose her life or to be married off to a french dauphin. but i also sympathize with the common ppl. they had struggles as well and many of the common ppl fell victim to rospierres reign of terror. women and children in that group as well. marie died at 38 so by then she was not a kid
fleurgi 1 year ago
@fleurgi yes i agree childhood is a 20th century concept but what i'm saying is when we're judging her now, we should keep that in mind. it wasn't a concept back then so they were hard on her, now we do have the concept so we can afford some lieniency. i do understand the commoners side of things as well. and sure at 38 she was no child in any way shape or form but to be spending money for yrs and then all of a sudden have to stop would be hard for anyone especially a monarch.
KrunkPrincess15 1 year ago
This is one of my favourite parts of this movie!!I love the New Order´s song "Ceremony".
farmatyger 1 year ago
Though technically a Joy Division song unless you saw them in concert you never had a chance to enjoy it as Still blows version wise.....nice pic with the movie.....the NO version is clean
noveltyme 1 year ago
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this was the worst movie I ever saw!!!!!!!
yanks4602 1 year ago
If you look at the facts we have from diaries ,memoirs etc you would be amazed at how formally & respectfully royalty spoke to each other. Sir and sometimes titular shorts were used.and the most formal language of the time.It's better when movies show the coldness of court protocol and life.I love this movie but it is very far from true! Lamballe & Fersen were her only true friends.Everyone wanted something.ThePolignacs deserted her w 6000 other nobles who got exit visas after bastille!
lovesGenet 1 year ago
whos the guy at 2:25
LittLeBaRbiEx0 1 year ago
@LittLeBaRbiEx0 Louis xxvi jason schwarzman
Aluzcherie 1 year ago
I love this scene :) I want a birthday just like that. Musik, friends, sunrise and everything. Exactly like that.
oOStulleOo 1 year ago
i want to have a birthday party just like this!!!! :)
bigfatimac 1 year ago
Off with her head !!!
Sektion9 1 year ago
I so want a birthday cake like that.
warjdani 1 year ago
This clip is so dreamy. Thanks for uploading.
chasingparkedcars 1 year ago
but it's not empty... it's of joie de vivre..
SparklySeacaptain 1 year ago
They spoke english in the XVIII century's France? Didn't know that
gabriel94220 1 year ago
When do humans or people whatever you want to call them act like this in modern times? I don't see anyone but the teenage girls enjoying their lives, disappointing their fathers, and living for only the moment without thinking of the future or the past. Thats is a life that truly and naturally, everybody could yearn. We just block ourselves from our potential by other responsibilities, and it irritates me that I cannot not be happy like those who are. It's both vengeful envy and pity for me.
MAJ9243 1 year ago 3
Ahhh....my favorite scene...i wish i could have a party like this..
ThatWeerdoGirl 1 year ago 64
@ThatWeerdoGirl Oh, me too! I wish I could have a birthday party as amazing as this, and top it off with watching the sunrise. :)
M4rple 1 year ago
@ThatWeerdoGirl omg i would kill for any of my birthdays to be this awesome
Eidolin 1 year ago
@ThatWeerdoGirl Me too!!! Dammn it!!!
danthemode 10 months ago
new order <3
wuhoo08 1 year ago
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wuhoo08 1 year ago
the aristocracy of the 18th century were'nt that far removed from what is now the oc. seems rather accurate to me. i get what you are saying, but the film was never meant to be a historical masterpiece. take it for what it is.
mcg62601 1 year ago
I woulnd't be surprised if the Rothschilds were behind setting her up with the necklace scandal.
Ranlon 1 year ago
weirdo
nigel65deck 1 year ago
You don't even know what it said fucker, so shut up ok.
Ranlon 1 year ago
I am a Rothschild don't talk to me like that, and please take your shoes off in the foyer.
nigel65deck 1 year ago
Oh I am sorry lord De Rot Shait.
Ranlon 1 year ago
So easily disturbed I like that you are like a fly to play with.
nigel65deck 1 year ago
Anything else Lord De RotShait?
Ranlon 1 year ago
Sure you can have one of the pink ginger fairies when you put the Siouxie and the Banchees record back on.
nigel65deck 1 year ago
So swell, and then you can suck my dick in return dear lord.
Ranlon 1 year ago
Not when you are dressed like that and it Mr dear Lord to you got that cupcake
nigel65deck 1 year ago
Well....dream on bitch.
Ranlon 1 year ago
oh god your replies are so boring and unimaginative I guess the fun stops here oh wait I can sense another hastily articulated comment the username that sounds like a deodorant. Have fun with your computer.
nigel65deck 1 year ago
Nigel you seem to imagine I orginally
addressed my comment to you, well I
didn't..yet it seems you can't get enough of
adressing yourself to me.
Ranlon 1 year ago
I know you are but what am I?
nigel65deck 1 year ago
@nigel65deck Absolutely.
Ranlon 1 year ago
Such indulgence. The part with at 51 gives me goosebumps - so eerie in regard to the passage of time and what happened to all these people.
AdArmand 1 year ago 2
this is a visually stunning but boring film . . .
this could have been an amazing film but instead sofia turned it into a stupid 18th century version of the OC . . .
i think the real Marie Antoinette deserves a better film to be remembered by :P
the soundtrack and costumes are amazing though :)
Luke19Wales 1 year ago 3
It's a frothy confection, a gorgeously wrapped present with nothing inside -- empty shoes, empty marriage, empty heads. I think that's the whole point!
The French invented living as an art form - food, sex and fashion.
bluesbrrd 1 year ago 3
Frenchmen with Englishmen accent....
madhoyden 2 years ago
i wish Sofia could of made a cameo
corndawg15 2 years ago
It was cool to see my favorite song used in a film. :)
roothands 2 years ago 2
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Sophia Coppola is Marie Antoinette and she probably deserves to die
hobgoblinlkjfdsa 2 years ago
Does anyone know what gambling game they are playing there? What is it called?
TheAngelInTheAir 2 years ago
MA was famous for playing cards like "nain jaune" in Versailles court but not for playing games of dices. But she was very very very famous for being a bad player and a huge looser !!!!! Parisian ppl knew so much her reputation at games....
bobduvar 1 year ago
1:50 :) my favourite part, I love her laugh :)
POTCorlandofan 2 years ago 2
Rose is so beautiful. <3
BoundlessFreedom 2 years ago
my favourite scene!LOVE IT
nitli111 2 years ago 12
I absolutely adore Marie Antoinette and New Order!! Both just fabulous!! It totally bugs the hell out of me how everyone thinks of Marie as negative. The reason is because she was only 18 when she became queen!! She didn't want to rule a kingdom and she wasn't ready. She just wanted to have fun and try to do her best ruling but it was hard since she was dragged into it and her husband wouldn't communicate with her. Anyways, overall she tried her best. God Bless Marie Antoinette!!
lil80schick 2 years ago 33
i dont think bad of her i agree wih u thats why we have child labor laws today it sux what happened to her she was more of just a good mother there for her kids then rule over a country that had no future back then in the first place but at least she had the time of her life tho thank god for that
justin19822 2 years ago 2
ya lol she was a great mother though. and at least she gave all her effort :D thats all that matters.
lil80schick 2 years ago 2
I agree for a different reason. I love the Rococo era, where worries of the world were forgotten, and aristocrats partied all every night on the expense of the country. I adore that the royalty of France lived a luxurious life, while others went hungry. I know I sound like a tyrant, but if some people have to go hungry for the pleasures of Versailles, them I'm all for it!
shane6003PQ 2 years ago 3
She actually did rule moderatly well. She did work on cutting the government spending of France. The problem being she cut positions that the rest of the elite did not agree with, i.e. pointless staff positions.
Additonally, she gets blamed for much of the expenditures but people forget that Louie made committiments to support the U.S. revolution against Great Britian.
jenniers 2 years ago 4
wasnt she just 15?
i can understand why it didnt go so well she was just a teenager.
StrawberryGun500 2 years ago 2
@lil80schick She was naive, and she couldn't even handle her own kids. Only 1 of her 5 kids survived, died of various reasons. And her last words, was "Pardon me Sir, I meant not to do it" because she had stepped on the executioner's foot. And don't think she is the first one to rule at a young age. So can't see why you adore her so much, she wasn't that clever.
T1B3R1AS 1 year ago
@T1B3R1AS, speaking of not being clever, she only had 4 children. It wasn't uncommon to have several children die at young ages, with the lack of medical science at that time. Because her children died of common diseases, this means she couldn't handle them? And do you not understand the point of her last statement? It showed her polite nature, even when faced with certain death. I suggest you do some research on MA and not just a skim of a wiki page.
MiaSays 1 year ago
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apmld 1 year ago
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@lil80schick You know films are not real? Although i love Coppola's movie, it is a modern vision of MA. In the 18th century, especially in that rank by the age of 18 you were fully adult and entitled to behave as such. Although considering MA like a contemporary teenager is great for fiction and drama, it is completely inaccurate. If you really like the character you should check how after the revolution she rose as a real monarch with strength and dignity. Zweig's bography's amaizing.
apmld 1 year ago
@lil80schick You know films are not real? Although i love Coppola's movie, it is a modern vision of MA. In the 18th century, especially in that rank by the age of 18 you were fully adult and entitled to behave as such. Although considering MA like a contemporary teenager is great for fiction and drama, it is completely inaccurate. If you really like the character you should check how after the revolution she rose as a real monarch with strength and dignity. Zweig's bography's amaizing.
apmld 1 year ago 2
@lil80schick I sort of agree with you, Louis XVI dragged Marie into her grave. Even though she could have acted just a bit smartly.
Anarchistt86 1 year ago
@Anarchistt86 (: Oui
lil80schick 1 year ago
@lil80schick ? "New Order" Ceremony is from "Joy Division " I thought ?
jplully 1 year ago
@jplully Nope its New Order(: Same group really because after the lead singer of Joy Division went suicide the rest of the group formed New Order.
lil80schick 1 year ago
@jplully "Ceremony" is originally a Joy Division song.
Joy Division only performed the song a couple of times live before Ian Curtis committed suicide, leaving only bad quality live recordings of the song behind. Afterward, the surviving members of Joy Division formed New Order. They re-recorded "Ceremony" and released it under their new name.
wallflowersfreeze 1 year ago
CAN SOMEONE PLEASEEE UPLOAD THIS MOVIE?
THEY TOOK IT DOWN & NOW I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO DO WITH MY LIFE.
not really...but still..please someone put it up haha
freshfaceex3 2 years ago 19
It's only 10 dollars on dvd, buy the damn movie if you love it so much, I did ^_^
shane6003PQ 2 years ago 4
@freshfaceex3 it is uploaded in german
MmeDior 1 year ago
@MmeDior that's about as useful as a canoe on a desert haha
freshfaceex3 1 year ago
@freshfaceex3 u asked if someone could upload it...
MmeDior 1 year ago
@MmeDior well i meant in english haha
freshfaceex3 1 year ago
@freshfaceex3 Why dont u just buy the movie ? :S
iSteven00 1 year ago
@freshfaceex3 If you love this movie so much, shell out the $10 to $15 to buy the damn thing.
Ntyler01mil 1 year ago
@freshfaceex3 Just rent it...or better read the biography.
noveltyme 1 year ago
there are no more movies or TV shows on YouTube.
genericusername337 1 year ago
@freshfaceex3 Why don't you buy the DVD or pay a few dollars to watch it on itunes if you're that distraught over it.
rvggarcon 1 year ago
you just need to get into the history el dissento
mcg62601 2 years ago
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fucking video I like new order but not this shit!
singlobito 2 years ago
where's the scene with the same song where they go to the garden to watch the sunrise?
iwishiwasalice 2 years ago 3
What's the song ;D? It's so Rock'N'Roll...xD
TheTomboy96 2 years ago 3
it's Ceremony by New Order
clatonium 2 years ago 3
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i love this song. :)
onetotalpeach 2 years ago
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voypics isnt a fake!
dedrickpatsmart 2 years ago
great song. best scene in the movie. !!!!!
Yukawrenn 2 years ago 5
I really loved the little exchange between marie and louis. i think, despite the affair and "difficulties" in their marriage earlier on, they really did care for each other. just not in the deeply romantic sense. they grew up together, so they must have developed a meaningful bond.
NYfashnluv 2 years ago 3
i remember i did a marie antoinette party for my fifteenth birthday...this scene inspired my thoughts for it. my ultimate favourite scene! go marie! =) lol
heartofwonders1986 2 years ago
id hope you would be kind enough to fork over some pix sont be selfish
justin19822 2 years ago