This doesn't appear to be a creative solution to the problem but merely a solution. Perhaps study abroad only improves your problem solving capability which is not in and of itself an improvement in creativity.
I lived for 12 years in France and I think it is tue that I became more creative due to that experience. You have to think on your feet a lot more when you are in another country. Also, you're free from the judgment and expectations of your "tribe". Lastly, you see new things and get new perspectives that help you think outside the box. I was already what you'd call a "ceative person" before my 12 years in Paris but I know that my time there made me more so.
That's the problem with corporate intercultural theory...it is very reductive and simplistic. it is likely that creative people are more open to living abroad in the first place, so you can't really "prove scientifically" like the video says, that "living abroad makes you more creative."
Totally agree. We're living abroad right now after traveling long term. We've been making videos about it and posting them to our YouTube channel. Check it out!
Hey I am Dutch! And I don't look good (don't even pretend I do). I did just cut my hair. Of course the Irish are more genuine, but then the Dutch suffered considerably less over the past couple of centuries.
I live in Holland. Its a nice country with plenty of positives but I do hate the pretentiousness of a lot of the young people, particularly here in Amsterdam. At wkends many seem too preoccupied in looking good and posing rather than letting their hair down and having fun. I have a few Dutch friends that are not stuck up their own arse but I find a lot are. Of course I'm generalizing but thats my opinion after 2&1/2 yrs living here.
oh yeah holland sucks dicks... did you know we got one of the most social states in the world? and did you know... your saying that without arguments? which makes it 0% effective against anyone. so yeah... fail?
Interesting, but to me it feels like a finding that all knew and now its proven. Like, if you become poor all of a sudden, it wil make you more creative.
So, what is the relevance of this research for academia?
The only relevance I see right now is for business: Now a travel agent can say: "Experts say: Live abroad, and become creative" (Or whatever that creative thing might be or bring you.....)
There is also a relevance for the universities, not just businesses.. If universities take this research under account they can stimulate students to take a semester abroad for example and the outcome is that when this student graduates he/she will be more creative than a student from another university where going to study abroad is not practiced to such extent. This of course improves the reputation of the university.
So the younger you go abroad, the more creative you'll be? Wow, born in Saudi Arabia and lived overseas my whole childhood. No wonder I write novels and music and illustrate children's books. Hmm...
ffs your retarded, and im glad your not a politician because you would be a shit and fascist one, a majority of Americans are christian, and a majority of the worlds people are religious... doesn't mean they are right.
You too? Ok so we're super creative, but how well do you relate to the people living next door (assuming you got sent back to your native country when you left your birth family)?
My family calls this lonely feeling that comes from having no other expats to hang out with once the traveling ends as Expat Syndrome and I suffered from it for twenty years, managed to ocate my childhood sweetheart who happened to be French, got married (we both have E.S.) and I now live in France permanently.
I feel like a foreigner in my own country. I often ask my friends why they do certain things and they usually say 'because that's normal'. Feels like being a bit of an autistic, but instead of not picking up on social cues, you have more difficulty picking up on cultural cues simply because you've got a whole spectrum of different customs running through your system.
Like a multi-lingual person sometimes mixes up different languages.
I can relate to the video, abroad my mind starts racing.
Cultural Autism is a good analogy and I too feel like a tourist in my own land. All I know is that raising kids on the move and all over the globe may have provable positive effects on their creativity, but it's also crippling to their sense of belonging and ability to form lasting relationships. If I had been given a choice, knowing what I know now, I would've chosen belonging over lonely creativity. What good is a broad world view or creating art if you have no-one to share it with?
You are so suspicious and paranoid about "whites" and the west. Do yourself and everyone in Holland a favor and go to what ever country you feel is home in the MIddle East- I will give you about a week before you will be crying to come back to the west.
There you go with your stereotyping again. Think about it- these local offials don't have to take bribes, they get billions of oil revinues! They don't "become corrupted" they already are! But you can see how you blame the west even for that. The west MADE them corrupt-that is silly. Again, your biggest problems are within yourselves and only there will you find the solutions.
You have no problem stereotyping when you are criticizing the Dutch! You can not be more wrong about covert activities. Its the local governments that are keeping the people down.Its paranoid to believe that the Western powers have some secret abilities to covertly manipulate. Wealth is gushing out of the west to buy oil. ALL OF YOU DEFEAT YOURSELVES by supporting structures that deny women education etc. LOOK WITHIN and you will see both the cause and solution to your troubles.
HSD- Again I ask you: Don't you believe your culture and religion are superior? In FACT- Western values ARE superior. An ideology that supports equality for women and gays- human rights in general- is superior.A religion that does not support violence and discrimination IS superior. How can anyone question that. We in America are exploring water on the moon while you are still carrying it on your head-of course you hate the West.
It is the local politics of the regions that makes them poor. All the wealth of the West is being transferred into these countries in exchange for oil, many billions per year, not being stolen. Once the money gets into those counties, it is stolen from the people, but not by westerners. Its their OWN governments which are corrupt. You can't blame your problems on the west, but upon your culture and religion which supports these atrocities against the poor people you speak of.
HSD- one last thing: I am not Dutch and my heritage IS Native American, but I would be proud to be Dutch, but I would be ashamed to be Middle Eastern-not because of "race" but because of ideology. Look at you, living in Holland, enjoying a freedom you would never have in the Middle East,yet you complain like the ungrateful pig that you are about a country and people who took you in. You are ungrateful,and that makes you despicable, like all who believe as you do.You should thank God urn holland
Does the same concept to exist in the Middle East? Do Moslem's not think their culture and religion are superior? DO they not tell Westerners to go home? Europe is not "white" but it is "Western" and that ideology IS power. The middle eastern way of life is foreign and repugnant to Westerners. We believe in equality for women and gays, and freedom of religion as long as it is not a violent one.You should not be in the West if you do not believe in Western values. Your culture IS inferior.
HSD- Islam is the enemy of freedom, and you prove this in your own criticisms of the country where you live and are taking advantage of. No one cares what your race of country if origin is, it is your vile religion and culture which freedom loving people hate. No, you can never be Dutch, just as if I moved to Pakistan, it would not make me a Pakistanian. America is the only country where people of all nationalities and races can eventually become American. We will NEVER eccept Islam though.
Morph- are you beginning to learn from the ramblings of this dick sucker HSD that these people are no good, and never will be. You will never ever get along with them or ther children or their children. You can't breed out that much stupid in a few generations. Get them out before they start suicide bombing and hold your country hostage. The Dutch ARE white and ARE NOT Moslem, and never will be. You owe them NOTHING, get them out before breed you out of existannce and install Sharia on everyone.
HSD- you are such a fool. racism has nothing to do with religion. However, thank you for showing that I am right that you and trash like you hate the Dutch and their advanced culture. The Dutch need to wake up to your hate and resentment and force every one of you primitives back to your deserts where you can wallow in the sand 5 times a day in honor of your pig fucking, child molesting prophet. The girl he molested was 13! Only Satan would send such a representative. Your lives are a testiment.
Dutch engineers are wanted in every part of the world. a small country with greater scientific achievements especially in the civil engineering and urban developments. Get your facts right
Yes, and there are so many examples. Einstein and Freud, Darwin, Newton. By FAR, more people did there greatest work early in their lives while still close to home.
Darwin made his greatest work when he went out of Britain the so called "Journey of the Beagle" there he gathered all the data and made his famous work the origin of Species. Einstein wandered around Germany, Italy, Switzerland and finally USA. During that time he published his brilliant works. Freud born in Austria, spent time in Germany and UK to die in London. Il give you credits for Newton, he never left England.
I think these people at "INSEADofficial" are just trying to sell something. Think of the most creative minds in history and ask how far from their hometown had they gone when in their most creative phase. Its bull! This is an excuse for rich kids to get supported away from supervision.Also, polyglots may be more intelligent and thus more creative, but wold have been just as creative and intelligent had they not had the opportunity to learn another language. The Dutch are polyglots and VERY smart
I have been to Holland many times from the USA and it is a fantastic country and culture. The people are so nice and intelligent. It is to bad that they have allowed "foreigners" come there to pollute and rob the country. They are like roaches and think they have a right to comment about Dutch society when the Dutch are the most socially advanced people in the world, and the foreigners are the most backward. The Dutch need to clean their house while they still have one!
Thanks for your kind comment about our country :)
Too bad you have an American view on cleaning countries ;). How about converting those 'foreigners' to those same social and brilliant people instead of excluding them from our "elite" group?
Of course when this is possible, it is wonderful. I think this is the key to America's success. Almost every family in America did, at one time, have to integrate into the larger society. But to your point: Integrating into the larger society means giving up old ways for new ones. It is the immigrant that has to change, not the society.ALL the problems in Holland that I have seen were because people brought their culture with them instead of adapting to the new one WHICH THEY HAVE COME TO JOIN
l0ll- I do not know one single Dutchman who is not open to all humans who want to be part of the culture.You can't "convert" a "foreigner", they must willingly convert themselves. People come to Holland and then resent the freedom of advanced culture. Anti gay, anti womens rights etc. They even wish evil upon a great country for its kindness. Cleaning house is the proper expression when you are dealing with enemies of freedom who are also prone to violence when they are upset.
Mor- its not about "people" being labeled inferior,, but about their culture and religion being inferior. Who can argue that a religion that condones violence, murder of homosexuals, and subjugation of women is not inferior! Your ancestors paid for your freedom in blood and you CAN NOT give it away to foreigners who despise your freedom.We fought HItler and must fight all other extremism. You owe your ideological enemies nothing, certainly not the freedom of the next Dutch generation.
Please Mr, what makes you superior by calling their culture and religion inferior? my freedom is given away to foreigners, who told you that? My ideological enemies?! What in heaven's name are you talking about? In Europe we have lived side by side with many cultures and different religions. Which is our strongest point, We have been pioneering every scientific, social, political arena just because of this existence. So please dont be disrespectful by reciting your rhetoric on me.
The shame is that Holland was such an excellent country at one time, and will soon be no longer Dutch! "foreigners" means anyone new to the country who retains the identity and culture of their old country instead of adapting to the values and loyalty of the country that ALLOWED them in (usually at a great cost to the population which owes them NOTHING!). OF course Moslems come to mind creating a seething caldron of resentment and menace against the West when they should be driven back home.
Their homes are invaded and colonised by my and your respectable west "militiray forces". Their home is bombed by weapons who killed and orphaned thousands of innocent lives, deadly weapons that has been developed in yours and mine respectable countrie's laboratories and been tested in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somal, Bosnia, Chechenia, Lebanon, Palestine, Algeria and others more. People who has been made slaves in their countries by tyrans are escaping their beloved countries and dreaming to get back
pleur toch lekker op naar je eigen land dan en ga daar lekker zielig lopen doen, if you don't like our hospitality in our country then stfu and go whine in your own shitcountry, probably added this link to his favorites to keep the whinespamflow going, damn your so utterly goddamn sad boy, damn.
"HollandSucksDicks" -> Get a life, you apparently have nothing else to do but whine about all what you consider as lacks in the Dutch society.
You can't seem to be able to get over it. And I'm not surprised. If you're unable to get over yourself you're obviously unable to get over the external environment . Feels great to post these comments doesn't it?
Fact is that in my believe you should really find the source of this negativity. And it is absolute amazing that your just scratching on the surface while you can rub it in your own face and just fuck off. But! Now i feel i want 2 hurt you is that good or bad? Fact is that your not a creative person at all. And i am a artist yeahthats something... well well crazy english man i hope that your rocky mountains taste better than this beuatiful ijselmeer for instance... Okay People See You Abroad!!!
Now you know I'm not a faggot like you.. when do you leave our country. I will open a bottle of champagne. When you all leave.. we will have lots of firework.
I've got my platina (that means fucking 2 girls at the same time). I'm not gay. When people are gay I don't mind (more woman for me) What's your point? People who are gay don't harm anyone.
Lot of Americans have Dutch ancestors. But.. with all those muslims that migrated to Holland you probably have a good point. That's why you goatfuckers and burkahookers should all leave Holland.
WE DON'T GO THERE. We don't find it interesting. Muslims come over here. Because they live in a world of dictature. They have no free speech.. no free thinking.. that are a few basics for creativity. Thinking about the box.
The average rate of working age British Muslims who are not in employment is 65%. It's over 80% for the females.
Source: Annual Population Survey, January 2004 to December 2004, Office for National Statistics
Seems that culture is a big factor when it comes to succes. When it comes to have a successive society. It seems it's not our genes that is the factor of being succesful but our way of living that brings our prosperity.
My opinion is that muslims should go to a Islamic country.
Just look at the most successful people in our society, do you really want to be like that?? The most succesfull people often seem lonely and bitter to me.
To busy defending and keeping their wealth, to have a nice life.....
I think they grab that bitterness and know a way to escape from it.. form it into something new.
You know that sheep that lost the rest of the group. Now.. love wants to find it.
Most people ask themselves.. why people do when the world around them seems so succesful.
Why do people want to get lost?
People want to be significant, special.. surprised. We need that. There's also a thing we need.. that's sharing. We need to share.. otherwise we get lonely.. even that we like to share.
For short.. if muslims believe that their culture is so THE way of living.. they should show it in their own country.. ours will follow. Now it's the way around.
We invent all the things and muslims are poor come over here.. all protest against the way we live.. and then what.. should we become just as poor as they are?
Well.. that's interesting.. what did Islam invented lately.. let's say the last millenia (more than a thousand years).
Toilet... toiletpaper. PC.. ?? cars? airplanes? roads? Hmm.. music.. the Ipod? Radio maybe? No.. they did not invented that.. uhmm the telephone.. no that one either.
Qu est ce qui est plus creatif une reve riche ou une conception de son travail élaboré. Donc Mr MAddux (it s no use) ca ne sert a rien de faire une approche scolaire classique pourze décrire quelque chose que vous ne comrpendrez jamais.
Yes, it seems to be true: when you go abroad, you have the oportunity to create a new identity in regards to others. You start from a new point and are in front of certain difficulties you don't have home. That wakes you up.
I invite you to search Thom Wei.
He is the kind of artist who has been living all his life abroad. Very nice creativity...guitarist, dancer, singer, songwriter, it's just amazing...just an example among others.
This doesn't appear to be a creative solution to the problem but merely a solution. Perhaps study abroad only improves your problem solving capability which is not in and of itself an improvement in creativity.
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This is why I need to follow my urge to move to Japan.
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jamiebalzano 2 months ago
I lived for 12 years in France and I think it is tue that I became more creative due to that experience. You have to think on your feet a lot more when you are in another country. Also, you're free from the judgment and expectations of your "tribe". Lastly, you see new things and get new perspectives that help you think outside the box. I was already what you'd call a "ceative person" before my 12 years in Paris but I know that my time there made me more so.
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Most people with Porsches are rich. So if I buy one, I will become rich too?
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JAYNEANITA 1 year ago
That's the problem with corporate intercultural theory...it is very reductive and simplistic. it is likely that creative people are more open to living abroad in the first place, so you can't really "prove scientifically" like the video says, that "living abroad makes you more creative."
citoyenjoseph 1 year ago
Totally agree. We're living abroad right now after traveling long term. We've been making videos about it and posting them to our YouTube channel. Check it out!
EvannRachel 1 year ago
How about if I don't move overseas and just try new experiences?
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niccool20022a 1 year ago
what a fool believes he will seee !!
Telecommike 2 years ago
what a stupid thing he said about the candle game and the matches.....is that how the evaluate creativity now???
OH MY GOD .....PSICOLOGY SUCKS MORE THAN EVER DONE BEFORE
I THINK THOSE SYSTEMS OF STUDING PEOPLE BEHAVIOR ARE GETTING MORE AND MORE OBSOLETE
IT S JUST SO RIDICULOUS
marcosramosmarin 2 years ago
Great interview! Thanks INSEAD for posting this.
IHECBlog 2 years ago
I think HSD should end his life. With that wicked attitude he'll never ever fit in anywhere.
smoke some pot and chill..
chinovier 2 years ago
How to get creative...smoke pot and earn money with youtube videos.
Dzanar 2 years ago
Hey I am Dutch! And I don't look good (don't even pretend I do). I did just cut my hair. Of course the Irish are more genuine, but then the Dutch suffered considerably less over the past couple of centuries.
Swap passports?
ULTRAFRYSK 2 years ago
I live in Holland. Its a nice country with plenty of positives but I do hate the pretentiousness of a lot of the young people, particularly here in Amsterdam. At wkends many seem too preoccupied in looking good and posing rather than letting their hair down and having fun. I have a few Dutch friends that are not stuck up their own arse but I find a lot are. Of course I'm generalizing but thats my opinion after 2&1/2 yrs living here.
returntoglory 2 years ago
@returntoglory
Lets see if your opinion wil change after 6 years here(holland)...mine hasent
niettevragen 2 years ago
@returntoglory I'm a native dutch living in Amsterdam and I agree with you 100%, and that's my opinion after 43 yrs living here
weverman2 1 year ago
HollandSucksDicks.
Where do I start....
Je bent echt een mongool.:)
Yes I can speak dutch. No, i don't live there and. Yes, I just called you a retard.
nshakban 2 years ago
why dos holland suck dick
ikukelas 2 years ago
oh yeah holland sucks dicks... did you know we got one of the most social states in the world? and did you know... your saying that without arguments? which makes it 0% effective against anyone. so yeah... fail?
Maxarcc 2 years ago
wtf man racist go suck dick you retarded fish frog!!!!!!!
tyklimt3000 2 years ago
Dôh, it's good for your brain to learn languages
rubenhasit 2 years ago
Interesting, but to me it feels like a finding that all knew and now its proven. Like, if you become poor all of a sudden, it wil make you more creative.
So, what is the relevance of this research for academia?
The only relevance I see right now is for business: Now a travel agent can say: "Experts say: Live abroad, and become creative" (Or whatever that creative thing might be or bring you.....)
jobvdsande 2 years ago
There is also a relevance for the universities, not just businesses.. If universities take this research under account they can stimulate students to take a semester abroad for example and the outcome is that when this student graduates he/she will be more creative than a student from another university where going to study abroad is not practiced to such extent. This of course improves the reputation of the university.
ultraviol3tt 2 years ago
So the younger you go abroad, the more creative you'll be? Wow, born in Saudi Arabia and lived overseas my whole childhood. No wonder I write novels and music and illustrate children's books. Hmm...
leananshae 2 years ago
Hollandsucksdicks:
there will always be a minorities in mankind,
ffs your retarded, and im glad your not a politician because you would be a shit and fascist one, a majority of Americans are christian, and a majority of the worlds people are religious... doesn't mean they are right.
zushini 2 years ago
I'm glad my parents dragged me all over the globe when I was little then.
BaileysBeads 2 years ago
You too? Ok so we're super creative, but how well do you relate to the people living next door (assuming you got sent back to your native country when you left your birth family)?
My family calls this lonely feeling that comes from having no other expats to hang out with once the traveling ends as Expat Syndrome and I suffered from it for twenty years, managed to ocate my childhood sweetheart who happened to be French, got married (we both have E.S.) and I now live in France permanently.
leananshae 2 years ago
I feel like a foreigner in my own country. I often ask my friends why they do certain things and they usually say 'because that's normal'. Feels like being a bit of an autistic, but instead of not picking up on social cues, you have more difficulty picking up on cultural cues simply because you've got a whole spectrum of different customs running through your system.
Like a multi-lingual person sometimes mixes up different languages.
I can relate to the video, abroad my mind starts racing.
BaileysBeads 2 years ago
Cultural Autism is a good analogy and I too feel like a tourist in my own land. All I know is that raising kids on the move and all over the globe may have provable positive effects on their creativity, but it's also crippling to their sense of belonging and ability to form lasting relationships. If I had been given a choice, knowing what I know now, I would've chosen belonging over lonely creativity. What good is a broad world view or creating art if you have no-one to share it with?
leananshae 2 years ago
perhaps your name should be something more like "people who sends their kids to war suck..and i suck dick" would be a little more apropriate.
...i feel sorry for your mother.
zushini 2 years ago
hahahaha :D your immature response and obviously flawed insult makes me laugh.
ahh you cock sucker,
let me level this for you.
i know , around 50% of holland actualy does suck dick, they are called females and homosexuals one of which i really think you need more of.
By using a immature racist insult against a country for whatever reason makes you an asshole.
And you are a hipocrite when you include the minority of "good dutch people" in your racist name against all dutch people.
zushini 2 years ago
i agree, but then why does your name contradict everything you just said?
you retarded hypocrite.
im with eaglecloud10
zushini 2 years ago
You are so suspicious and paranoid about "whites" and the west. Do yourself and everyone in Holland a favor and go to what ever country you feel is home in the MIddle East- I will give you about a week before you will be crying to come back to the west.
eaglecloud10 2 years ago
There you go with your stereotyping again. Think about it- these local offials don't have to take bribes, they get billions of oil revinues! They don't "become corrupted" they already are! But you can see how you blame the west even for that. The west MADE them corrupt-that is silly. Again, your biggest problems are within yourselves and only there will you find the solutions.
eaglecloud10 2 years ago
You have no problem stereotyping when you are criticizing the Dutch! You can not be more wrong about covert activities. Its the local governments that are keeping the people down.Its paranoid to believe that the Western powers have some secret abilities to covertly manipulate. Wealth is gushing out of the west to buy oil. ALL OF YOU DEFEAT YOURSELVES by supporting structures that deny women education etc. LOOK WITHIN and you will see both the cause and solution to your troubles.
eaglecloud10 2 years ago
HSD- Again I ask you: Don't you believe your culture and religion are superior? In FACT- Western values ARE superior. An ideology that supports equality for women and gays- human rights in general- is superior.A religion that does not support violence and discrimination IS superior. How can anyone question that. We in America are exploring water on the moon while you are still carrying it on your head-of course you hate the West.
eaglecloud10 2 years ago
It is the local politics of the regions that makes them poor. All the wealth of the West is being transferred into these countries in exchange for oil, many billions per year, not being stolen. Once the money gets into those counties, it is stolen from the people, but not by westerners. Its their OWN governments which are corrupt. You can't blame your problems on the west, but upon your culture and religion which supports these atrocities against the poor people you speak of.
eaglecloud10 2 years ago
HSD- one last thing: I am not Dutch and my heritage IS Native American, but I would be proud to be Dutch, but I would be ashamed to be Middle Eastern-not because of "race" but because of ideology. Look at you, living in Holland, enjoying a freedom you would never have in the Middle East,yet you complain like the ungrateful pig that you are about a country and people who took you in. You are ungrateful,and that makes you despicable, like all who believe as you do.You should thank God urn holland
eaglecloud10 2 years ago
Does the same concept to exist in the Middle East? Do Moslem's not think their culture and religion are superior? DO they not tell Westerners to go home? Europe is not "white" but it is "Western" and that ideology IS power. The middle eastern way of life is foreign and repugnant to Westerners. We believe in equality for women and gays, and freedom of religion as long as it is not a violent one.You should not be in the West if you do not believe in Western values. Your culture IS inferior.
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eaglecloud10 2 years ago
HSD- Islam is the enemy of freedom, and you prove this in your own criticisms of the country where you live and are taking advantage of. No one cares what your race of country if origin is, it is your vile religion and culture which freedom loving people hate. No, you can never be Dutch, just as if I moved to Pakistan, it would not make me a Pakistanian. America is the only country where people of all nationalities and races can eventually become American. We will NEVER eccept Islam though.
eaglecloud10 2 years ago
Morph- are you beginning to learn from the ramblings of this dick sucker HSD that these people are no good, and never will be. You will never ever get along with them or ther children or their children. You can't breed out that much stupid in a few generations. Get them out before they start suicide bombing and hold your country hostage. The Dutch ARE white and ARE NOT Moslem, and never will be. You owe them NOTHING, get them out before breed you out of existannce and install Sharia on everyone.
eaglecloud10 2 years ago
HSD- you are such a fool. racism has nothing to do with religion. However, thank you for showing that I am right that you and trash like you hate the Dutch and their advanced culture. The Dutch need to wake up to your hate and resentment and force every one of you primitives back to your deserts where you can wallow in the sand 5 times a day in honor of your pig fucking, child molesting prophet. The girl he molested was 13! Only Satan would send such a representative. Your lives are a testiment.
eaglecloud10 2 years ago
Dutch engineers are wanted in every part of the world. a small country with greater scientific achievements especially in the civil engineering and urban developments. Get your facts right
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Jordan23c 2 years ago
Did Emmanuel Kant live abroad ? Bach ? Cézanne ? Bullshit...
JuliendAnce 2 years ago
Yes, and there are so many examples. Einstein and Freud, Darwin, Newton. By FAR, more people did there greatest work early in their lives while still close to home.
eaglecloud10 2 years ago
Darwin made his greatest work when he went out of Britain the so called "Journey of the Beagle" there he gathered all the data and made his famous work the origin of Species. Einstein wandered around Germany, Italy, Switzerland and finally USA. During that time he published his brilliant works. Freud born in Austria, spent time in Germany and UK to die in London. Il give you credits for Newton, he never left England.
So, please get your facts right.
Morphinos 2 years ago
Morph, get YOUR facts straight. How much travel did have have prior to their major contributions, not after, when they were famous.
eaglecloud10 2 years ago
its spelt Immanuel Kant btw
TheBrettBall 2 years ago
Not in French, my native language, gtfoh
JuliendAnce 2 years ago
But you weren't speaking French :)
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TheBrettBall 2 years ago
I think these people at "INSEADofficial" are just trying to sell something. Think of the most creative minds in history and ask how far from their hometown had they gone when in their most creative phase. Its bull! This is an excuse for rich kids to get supported away from supervision.Also, polyglots may be more intelligent and thus more creative, but wold have been just as creative and intelligent had they not had the opportunity to learn another language. The Dutch are polyglots and VERY smart
eaglecloud10 2 years ago
"Think of the most creative minds in history and ask how far from their hometown had they gone when in their most creative phase."
Right ! See Socrates for example.
JuliendAnce 2 years ago
I have been to Holland many times from the USA and it is a fantastic country and culture. The people are so nice and intelligent. It is to bad that they have allowed "foreigners" come there to pollute and rob the country. They are like roaches and think they have a right to comment about Dutch society when the Dutch are the most socially advanced people in the world, and the foreigners are the most backward. The Dutch need to clean their house while they still have one!
eaglecloud10 2 years ago
Thanks for your kind comment about our country :)
Too bad you have an American view on cleaning countries ;). How about converting those 'foreigners' to those same social and brilliant people instead of excluding them from our "elite" group?
l0ll1ge 2 years ago
Of course when this is possible, it is wonderful. I think this is the key to America's success. Almost every family in America did, at one time, have to integrate into the larger society. But to your point: Integrating into the larger society means giving up old ways for new ones. It is the immigrant that has to change, not the society.ALL the problems in Holland that I have seen were because people brought their culture with them instead of adapting to the new one WHICH THEY HAVE COME TO JOIN
eaglecloud10 2 years ago
l0ll- I do not know one single Dutchman who is not open to all humans who want to be part of the culture.You can't "convert" a "foreigner", they must willingly convert themselves. People come to Holland and then resent the freedom of advanced culture. Anti gay, anti womens rights etc. They even wish evil upon a great country for its kindness. Cleaning house is the proper expression when you are dealing with enemies of freedom who are also prone to violence when they are upset.
eaglecloud10 2 years ago
beautiful, this makes sense. But we should not be naive and point out foreigners as socially inferior to the natives, which is not true.
Morphinos 2 years ago 2
Mor- its not about "people" being labeled inferior,, but about their culture and religion being inferior. Who can argue that a religion that condones violence, murder of homosexuals, and subjugation of women is not inferior! Your ancestors paid for your freedom in blood and you CAN NOT give it away to foreigners who despise your freedom.We fought HItler and must fight all other extremism. You owe your ideological enemies nothing, certainly not the freedom of the next Dutch generation.
eaglecloud10 2 years ago
Please Mr, what makes you superior by calling their culture and religion inferior? my freedom is given away to foreigners, who told you that? My ideological enemies?! What in heaven's name are you talking about? In Europe we have lived side by side with many cultures and different religions. Which is our strongest point, We have been pioneering every scientific, social, political arena just because of this existence. So please dont be disrespectful by reciting your rhetoric on me.
Morphinos 2 years ago
You actually point to foreigners as robbers and polluters? is that how you see other minorities?
most importantly from whom is this coming? from an outsider, whom administration is a bunch of polluters and (oil, minerals) robbers. what a shame
Morphinos 2 years ago
The shame is that Holland was such an excellent country at one time, and will soon be no longer Dutch! "foreigners" means anyone new to the country who retains the identity and culture of their old country instead of adapting to the values and loyalty of the country that ALLOWED them in (usually at a great cost to the population which owes them NOTHING!). OF course Moslems come to mind creating a seething caldron of resentment and menace against the West when they should be driven back home.
eaglecloud10 2 years ago
Their homes are invaded and colonised by my and your respectable west "militiray forces". Their home is bombed by weapons who killed and orphaned thousands of innocent lives, deadly weapons that has been developed in yours and mine respectable countrie's laboratories and been tested in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somal, Bosnia, Chechenia, Lebanon, Palestine, Algeria and others more. People who has been made slaves in their countries by tyrans are escaping their beloved countries and dreaming to get back
Morphinos 2 years ago
pleur toch lekker op naar je eigen land dan en ga daar lekker zielig lopen doen, if you don't like our hospitality in our country then stfu and go whine in your own shitcountry, probably added this link to his favorites to keep the whinespamflow going, damn your so utterly goddamn sad boy, damn.
Kaknoos 2 years ago
I'm sure you care about others =)
crystalshine12 2 years ago
These are really interesting results. I translated the basics in Russian. May be someone will be interested.
На русском:
zhitenko livejournal com/14316 html
(put dots on the blanks)
zhitenko 2 years ago
Ow come on people.
"HollandSucksDicks" -> Get a life, you apparently have nothing else to do but whine about all what you consider as lacks in the Dutch society.
You can't seem to be able to get over it. And I'm not surprised. If you're unable to get over yourself you're obviously unable to get over the external environment . Feels great to post these comments doesn't it?
crystalshine12 2 years ago
@ HollandSucksDicks
So you hate Holland do you?
Why do you still live in Holland? Why won't you go back to where you belong? Oh, wait guys... He LOVES Holland!
richardos112 2 years ago
lot of this said by mr. "hollandsucksdicks" is true , all the aliens or forigners have same experience in holland as this poor tortured guy
which by the way is one of many many tortured people in holland ,it's called pscyho terrorism
but england and u.s. suck too man basically everywhere where money is most important sucks
ANIMALLOVERSnr1 2 years ago
If you want to tell people something, you won't reach them if you insult them first.....
(I agree with a lot you say, though I am dutch.)
nanino09 2 years ago
Fact is that in my believe you should really find the source of this negativity. And it is absolute amazing that your just scratching on the surface while you can rub it in your own face and just fuck off. But! Now i feel i want 2 hurt you is that good or bad? Fact is that your not a creative person at all. And i am a artist yeahthats something... well well crazy english man i hope that your rocky mountains taste better than this beuatiful ijselmeer for instance... Okay People See You Abroad!!!
Robinschuinder 2 years ago
Now you know I'm not a faggot like you.. when do you leave our country. I will open a bottle of champagne. When you all leave.. we will have lots of firework.
Brulluhman 2 years ago
HSD faggot... why is your name so focused on Holland and sucking dick? Did Dutch girls bashed you?
Can't help it... they suck dick..same as German, Iranian, Moroccan, Australian.. girls just doing their job when it comes to pleasing a man.
Brulluhman 2 years ago
I've got my platina (that means fucking 2 girls at the same time). I'm not gay. When people are gay I don't mind (more woman for me) What's your point? People who are gay don't harm anyone.
I think you are a faggot.
Brulluhman 2 years ago
Lot of Americans have Dutch ancestors. But.. with all those muslims that migrated to Holland you probably have a good point. That's why you goatfuckers and burkahookers should all leave Holland.
We might have a normal country again.
Brulluhman 2 years ago
Dear Mr. Maddux,
Please stop saying "so" at the beginning of every sentence. Thank you.
Jishaku 2 years ago
Better outside the box..
Brulluhman 2 years ago
WE DON'T GO THERE. We don't find it interesting. Muslims come over here. Because they live in a world of dictature. They have no free speech.. no free thinking.. that are a few basics for creativity. Thinking about the box.
Brulluhman 2 years ago
creativity can't be studied by statistics like this. find a more creative way to study it and you'll get a higher quality study.
iownallwoot 2 years ago
Still our culture is superior
Brulluhman 2 years ago
europe ftw
FloChris 2 years ago
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Brulluhman 2 years ago
Wow and lol @ people wasting their lives starting discussions on yt. kthxbai
MrRadiologist 2 years ago
The average rate of working age British Muslims who are not in employment is 65%. It's over 80% for the females.
Source: Annual Population Survey, January 2004 to December 2004, Office for National Statistics
Seems that culture is a big factor when it comes to succes. When it comes to have a successive society. It seems it's not our genes that is the factor of being succesful but our way of living that brings our prosperity.
My opinion is that muslims should go to a Islamic country.
Brulluhman 2 years ago
That really depends on your view on succes.
Just look at the most successful people in our society, do you really want to be like that?? The most succesfull people often seem lonely and bitter to me.
To busy defending and keeping their wealth, to have a nice life.....
nanino09 2 years ago
I think they grab that bitterness and know a way to escape from it.. form it into something new.
You know that sheep that lost the rest of the group. Now.. love wants to find it.
Most people ask themselves.. why people do when the world around them seems so succesful.
Why do people want to get lost?
People want to be significant, special.. surprised. We need that. There's also a thing we need.. that's sharing. We need to share.. otherwise we get lonely.. even that we like to share.
Brulluhman 2 years ago
For short.. if muslims believe that their culture is so THE way of living.. they should show it in their own country.. ours will follow. Now it's the way around.
We invent all the things and muslims are poor come over here.. all protest against the way we live.. and then what.. should we become just as poor as they are?
Brulluhman 2 years ago
Well.. that's interesting.. what did Islam invented lately.. let's say the last millenia (more than a thousand years).
Toilet... toiletpaper. PC.. ?? cars? airplanes? roads? Hmm.. music.. the Ipod? Radio maybe? No.. they did not invented that.. uhmm the telephone.. no that one either.
Look around you.
Brulluhman 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Than what the fuck are you doing in Holland. Get the fuck out. You don't belong here. Because people like you we vote Geert Wilders.
Brulluhman 2 years ago
ja en jij bent een held
Robinschuinder 2 years ago
Get the hell out of our country! Fuck your Mohammed.
Brulluhman 2 years ago
Please all. Stop your reasnoment.
There is maybe more creativity abroad, but abroad is somewhere where people are in his own. You know it s so easy to say that.
blixite31 2 years ago 2
when will we get a study about cancer? O yeah i forgot we won't, we will end up with this bullshit all the time.
bohemiangrove 2 years ago
hoho
lukasde001 2 years ago
Is it the fact that people go abroad?
or
the fact that to go abroad and succeed abroad you had to, before travelling, already be more opened and creative than the average people?
tofoot 2 years ago 10
Franchement c est nul, et je pèse le mot.
Qu est ce qui est plus creatif une reve riche ou une conception de son travail élaboré. Donc Mr MAddux (it s no use) ca ne sert a rien de faire une approche scolaire classique pourze décrire quelque chose que vous ne comrpendrez jamais.
blixite31 2 years ago
Yes, it seems to be true: when you go abroad, you have the oportunity to create a new identity in regards to others. You start from a new point and are in front of certain difficulties you don't have home. That wakes you up.
I invite you to search Thom Wei.
He is the kind of artist who has been living all his life abroad. Very nice creativity...guitarist, dancer, singer, songwriter, it's just amazing...just an example among others.
Have a nice day
mathendo 2 years ago
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