Battle of Jutland 1916 - The Main Fleet Action

[ralphomat]

Scheer was not the best commander AT THAT MOMENT, but the German ships an ammo were better, and maybe even the gunners, the motivation. Let's be happy, that this will never will happen again!

[tincoffin]

I believe that the 180 degree turn of a fleet like this is incredibly hard to accomplish succesfully and that the German fleet must have practised it endlessly . It might lend some support to Axeflaks arguments though Hartfords seem good as well.

[Axel88Flak]

THIS IS ALL BULLCRAP!... The entire german strategy was based on their swarms of torpedo boats... the used the smoke screen to launch hundreds of torps but they scored far fewer hits than hoped for...Had they been luckier things may have been very different for the world today.... Sad to see that the ratio of accurate history reporting to total rubbish is every day favouring fantasy.... but that is what history is isnt it.

[Hartford688]

What? The German strategy was to build hugely expensive dreadnoughts to lure the British onto destroyers??? In any event, at Jutland the British had more destroyers than the "swarms" of Germans, and the "hundreds of torps" you describe would be included in the grand total of 105 fired by the Germans in the entire battle (vs 94 by the British). Sad to see you are in fantasy land as well.

[Axel88Flak]

History should have its own category... it is niether Fiction or Non Fiction. You count the torpedos... but fail to realise that the British boats had the option of close encounter using guns arnour and numbers that would have shredded the Central powers tiny boats. The defending fleet had one option that it was designed to attempt... which it did... it failed.. they retired never to venture out again during the war.. SO the information that I have read goes. As I said.. HISTORY IS CRAP

[Hartford688]

They had the option to close, but Jellicoe knew full well that the British battleships were very vulnerable to underwater hits - poor torpedo protection (see HMS Audacious being hit by a mine in 1914) so while the Grand Fleet could have sunk the destroyers, it was at very high risk of losing far more valuable battleships. History is not crap; you just don't understand it.

[Axel88Flak]

Regurgitating missinformation artfully dubbed "history" by the paedophile members of the religious who have turned the Celtic Saxon and Norwegian inhabitants of Britania against their kinmen is not understanding... its the worst kind of mental impariment. Regurgitating lies empowers the lier and lobotomises the simple trusting reader. I have very regretfully come to the conclusion that history is almost valueless after wasting many years I cant get back in its study.

[caferacer56]

When the horizon appeared full of a line of British Dreadnoughts from west to east Sheer must have been shocked, outnumbered, outgunned, slower fleet speed, light favouring the enemy he was desperate, why he turned back again is a mystery, a failure in a moment of stress, he was lucky to escape. Jellicoe as Churchill has said, the only man who could lose the war in an afternoon, he had to be cautious but he did his job, Grand Fleet ready again, High Seas Fleet battered and saved by stout design

[BlitzWotan]

Scheer was certainly not at his peak during these moments, he later on tried to explain it in his book, however if there is a "Hero" of this battle only one Man can be named HIPPER - his Battlecruisers alone made the job. That they later have been crippeled on their "Death Run" was again Scheers order, where T Boats would have been "Good ennough" (Actually one the better English Comanders )

[harlsbottom]

Would have been nice to have displayed the actual deployment of the British Battle Squadrons. The description of the turn away completely ignores the very real damage torpedoes could have wrought on the British battle line had it followed. Despite the turn away more than twenty torpedoes reached the British ships and were evaded with considerable effort. Very simplistic overview.

[GRAHAM5020]

@harlsbottom I actually agree with you here. Had the torpedos hit any of the British Battleships, they would almost certainly been sunk or disabled, even by one or two torpedo hits, the German Battleships had superior below-waterline division. I can understand why Jellicoe turned away.

[norb1937]

Somethings wrong with this video. All I saw was the perfect naval manuever known as crossing the T.

[Axel88Flak]

What they are calling "The main fleet action" is just the part that makes the Brits look best. The attempt to break the blockade actually took days and was performed mainly in mathematical calculations regarding weight engine power and fuel consumption. The British Battlecruisers having their asses handed to them is very much played down.

[acr08807]

@Axel88Flak If you think that's what happened, no wonder you think history is CRAP.  Anyway, to my mind, ethnic nationalism is the worst kind of mental impairment.