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  • nemorino fakir fukara bir oğlandır, ama zengin ve kendisiyle ilgilenmeyen bir kıza sevdalanmıştır. çaresizlik içinde bir "aşk iksiri" alır, ama aldığı şey ucuz kırmızı şaraptan başka bir şey çıkmaz. nemorino acınası bir şekilde yine de bunun işe yarayacağına inanmaktadır. işte birden zengin kızın ağladığını gördüğünde onun kendine aşık olduğuna, bu yüzden ağladığına inanır

  • I must say it's very refreshing to hear different interpretations (or another version in this case) of the great arias. Even if I perhaps like the other version more, it's important for the art itself that we keep exploring new ways. I've just discovered Alagna, and I'm really glad I did.

  • Muy buena voz, pero poco respeto por el autor.

  • I like this interpretation! Crisp diction, solid technique, more baritonal which fits Alagna's range well. Perhaps an attempt to distance himself and the comparisons to the tenor who owns this aria--Pava. Good work! Bravo!

  • Un génie, la plus belle voix du monde, j'en reste sans voix !

  • Que porquería le hizo a ésta aria. No me gusta ni tantito.

  • !EL MEJOR !!!!!!

  • I actually saw this production on DVD a few months ago (it is Angela Gheorghiu playing opposite him btw)...he's not my favorite tenor, but he does a nice job with this aria...

  • i like alagna but not this version of una furtiva lagrima !

  • さすがに「高級ななめし皮のような」肌触りの美声ですね。しかし­、このような歌い方ははじめて聴きました。最近の流行でしょうか­?

  • Les 38 personnes qui n'aiment pas doivent s'exploser le cerveau et les oreilles avec NTM ou Motorhead !!! pas possible autrement !!!! :-O

    Roberto, c'est du pur chef- d'oeuvre !!!

  • non è una versione soddisfacente.... come diceva kraus una bella voce è solo il 10% ... la tecnica .........???

    Peccato che questo tenore abbia scelto la facile via del divismo...

  • Pour qui se prend-il pour changer les notes a sa guise ?? Quelle pretention ! Pas etonnant qu'il soit persona non grata a la Scala, l'imbecile !

  • looooooove!

  • Year/Location/Cast

    The recording was done in 1996, at the Opera de Lyon (France)

    Nemorino - Roberto Alagna

    Adina - Angela Gheorghiu (you're right, vladutze84)

    Belcore - Roberto Scaltriti

    Dulcamara - Simone Alaimo

    Giannetta - Elena Dan

  • While I understand some of you wanting "what the composer intended," there is not one DEFINITIVE version, and a bit of research would be preferable before stating dislike of the singer. Roberto Alagna is known to want stay as close to what is written as possible.

  • Actually, this is another version of "Una furtiva lagrima."

    I own the recording, and the booklet states

    Note from Evelino Pido:

    " . . . I suggested to Roberto Alagna that we record the second version of 'Una furtiva lagrima', which Donizetti himself wrote, clearly for a more baritonal tenor, about 10 years after finishing this score. This is a very interesting version, which includes some lovely, and highly original variations in the second verse, and an associated final cadenza."

  • whats with the wrong notes....this is disrespectful. Write your own opera then do whatver you want with it.

  • What the dump is he doing? SIng what's written idiot. Roberto Donizetti ? no.

  • Аланья один из лучших теноров мира !!!

  • Sounds soul touching.

    And an amazing improvisation of this aria.

  • Roberto est FABULEUX !!!! Quelle voix !!!!

  • He sings the wrong notes! Nothing that Donizetti wrote. He makes his own melody as he goes along! I suggest he listen to Pavarotti and Caruso and Villazon. What a shame!

  • @barmax4537 In Donizetti's day this kind of extreme ornamentation was routine. It's not incorrect.

  • BRAVO!!!!!!!!

  • MA CHE SCHIFO E' NON VA A TEMPO E LE NOTE SONO SBALLATISSIME

  • Que no es versión libre lo que canta, es que por lo visto Donizetti reescribió una furtiva lacrima y es esa versión la que canta, o por lo menos eso explican en el DVD, pobrecillo Alagna que se meten con él...

  • I respect alagna for being very brave, he dares changing some part of the area, and still keeping the harmony, really time changed and people changed! that's what we need !

  • @lonlywolfish

    True in one way. I think people want classics opera interpretated in modern ways, maybe even modern armony. well. Some shoul;d compose them. As for changing what is already written, that is a mistake, as Donizetti didn't wanted that, that's why he composed what he wrote. A signer should consider the scores as his bible. No one thought to rewrite the bible.For example, villazon also sang the role wonderfully, without changing the score

  • @MonteKristof but villazon is having awfull technique lately

  • @Ofirangel True, He got an operation on the vocal chords and stopped to sing for a very long period. I was reffering more to the stilistic and approach of the aria ;-) though he has vocal problems now, he is still a first class artist in therm of interpretation. I named Villazon because he's well known, I could have named others as well...

  • @Ofirangel but beczala is the best

  • @MonteKristof , are you sure this fancy thing in 2.part is indeed some Alagna's invention, rather than an earlier alternative version? I imagined they had done some research for this Salzburg performance, going back to originals in a few instances. Was I wrong?

  • @MonteKristof Plenty of people have rewritten (oops, I mean "translated") the bible. If one knows nothing of composition perhaps they should not change the scores. Otherwise everything is fair game. Some performers enjoy having artistic freedom with their roles and directors with their productions. Not all like being glorified dancing (singing) monkeys.

    Furthermore, there is no way to claim with todays society/instruments/etc that Donizetti would or would not want something - he is dead.

  • Bravo! There is always a bit of sadness in the greatest joy and he finds it perfectly. And could he be any more romantic?

  • Bravo! There is always a bit of sadness in the greatest joy and he finds it perfectly. And could he be any more romantic?

  • SIMPLY BEAUTIFUL

  • Sublime!

  • What a voice and what an expression. Simply the best tenor.

  • I do like that he sings this a bit more upbeat. Because of the legato tones, a lot of singers end up in a sort of glum demeanor. Where as in the story it should be a mixed emotion of amazement that the love potion actually worked with the realization what that means. She loves him!

  • è grande da avere nuovi tenori perché il maestro è andato. Amo Roberto Magno poiché lui si molto di talento e lui mi danno indietro le memorie di Pavarotti. Grande Roberto

  • I do wish people would realize that this is actually a happy aria....just because theres a bassoon in the begining does not mean its sad

  • ¿Por qué el conductor le habrá permitido hacer esas variaciones dentro de la Ópera?

  • beautiful voice!

  • NOUS T'AIMONS ROBERTO!

  • Roberto Alagna

    Orchestre et Choeur de l´Opera National de Lyon - evelino pido

  • per casteddu79: ti lascio questo commento con tutto il rispetto possibile.. io studio lirica e posso dirti che queste sono variazioni che si possono eseguire in base a chi interpreta questa aria. Esse sono state scritte proprio sullo spartito e certe volte proprio dal compositore stesso, può sembrare assolutamente fuori luogo ma é così.. :-) ritengo che roberto alagna sia uno degli interpreti più bravi dei nostri giorni.. questo commento non vuole essere una mancanza di rispetto

  • @MsGENIUS901 potranno annche essere possibili queste variazioni, ma in questo caso quello di roberto mi sembra un errore ed in più non mi piace anche a me !

  • per casteddu79: ti lascio questo commento con tutto il rispetto possibile.. io studio lirica e posso dirti che queste sono variazioni che si possono eseguire in base a chi interpreta questa aria. Esse sono state scritte proprio sullo spartito e certe volte proprio dal compositore stesso, può sembrare assolutamente fuori luogo ma é così.. :-) ritengo che roberto alagna sian uno degli interprei più bravi dei nostri giorni.. questo commento non vuole essere una mancanza di rispetto

  • Alagna n'a du tout de souffle, en tout cas dans cette video il chante comme s'il voulait se depecher..c'est bien chante, sans faute de note, mais il lui manque quand meme beaucoup dans cet extrait.!

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  • o mio dio gaetano donizetti si sta rivoltando sulla tomba.

    come si puo rovinare una romanza di questa meraviglia.

    musicalmente tutto diverso dall'originale, ma io mi chiedo

    come puo il direttore d'orchestra permettere questo e una vergogna

    non si a piu rispetto del compositore che la scritta.

    alagna ma va a cantare ai mercati del pesce che sei osceno e non meriti

    di cantare una furtiva lagrima.

  • @casteddu79 Concordo pienamente.

  • tout en nuances et en émotion, bravo

  • He is actually singing ornaments that Donizetti had rewriten and autographed dated 1843 found in the Paris Public Library... Donizetti had also re-written it a third down...

  • If it ain't broke ...DONT FIX IT!

  • Aucune emotion, désolé interprértation fade !!!!!!

  • i didnt know Alagna wrote this aria. man for the longest time i thought it was Donizetti! silly me.

  • His improvisations were not any more difficult than the original, so what's the point? The odd ending capped the disappointment. I can go listen to another clip, but if I were in the theater, I think I would feel frustrated at not having heard the real Una Furtiva.

  • Eis aí um grande clássico dos clássicos. Uma verdadeira jóia rara.

  • non mi piace affatto .

  • Va muy de prisa, esta aria es dulce, no se puede cantar con tanta potencia, es que el no es tenor ligero, definitivamente esta aria no es para su voz. escuchar a Alva, Florez o Kraus, otro tema.

  • @gonzalojosevb Definitivamente, me quedo con Alagna. Gracias

  • Different, very male and powerful, great voice, great heart -BUTCH singing different!!

  • laboratory, including some with faults, and then extrapolate "spurious technique" from such observations. Allowing the larynx to elevate is a serious fault which needs time and hard work to fix. The larynx, when sining, should be stable, as in everyday speech. This is a great example.....watch and learn.

  • OK, all of you young tenors watching this, please observe the following: in the cadenza, which Sgr Alagna sings full voice with dazzling technique, observe closely how stable his larynx (Adam's apple) is. It does not move around, or go up with the pitch. This is good technique, there some bad advice currently going around that a tenor should try to elevate his larynx for high notes, voice scientists invite some very ordinary singers into the .....continued

  • I can't get over the fact that he is such a HUGE DIVO did any body see how much of a child he was at La Scala!

  • this man has a golden voice. love his voice. amazing.

  • que feo..

  • Donizetti wrote beautiful music, and this particular aria is one that is mere perfection...REALLY...it was stripped to bits and there's no need for so many interpretative changes which actually take away its simplistic beauty.

  • He sings here the very first version of this aria, which was originally writen for a baritone voice and later transposed for the tenor voice of course.

  • Bravo Roberto......

  • prefer Australian David Hobson's rendition to all on youtube.

  • bello.... però un po sbuffoneggiante.

  • ma che note canta?!?

  • doesn't this usually end with a repetition of "si puo morir"?

  • Wow he took some liberties with the notes here. I guess it is bel canto and if he can get away with it, good for him.

  • @MDSmitty2488 It's part of the bel Canto Technique to ornament the melody on the repeat. Some do more than others... see Joan Sutherland and Marylin Horne for great examples. :)

  • Alagna is a marvelous tenor: great voice, great heart, but lyric and dramatic. Just love him.

  • A reasonable version although it cannot approach the perfection of Jussi Bjorling.

  • Magnifico!!!

  • He doesn't sing this sad because he has no reason to - he has seen the "furtive tear" - he KNOWS NOW that she cares about him! And Alagna, who is an excellent actor, knows when to be very quiet & contemplative, which is needed for this particular scene.

  • ragazzi ma conoscete la storia? parlate senza cpire nemmeno che dite...alagna in primo luogo non è un grande tenore e questo è risaputo...abbiamo nel panorama mondiale tenori molto superbi e superiori a lui...alagna manca della grandezza e potenza vocale! riguardo l'aria non è triste...forse prima di ascoltare ragazzi leggete i libretti delel opere e capirete qualcosa e sparerete meno stronzate

  • I've never heard these improvisations before. It's a nice change

  • due sono le cose, o milioni di persone che ascoltano roberto non capiscono niente, o tu sei veramente competente, ma io opto per un'altra ipotesi, cioè, che la mamma degli idioti e sempre incinta.

  • il numero non fa la quantita'

  • It's good, but the conductor is pushing the tempo too much--it should be slow, contemplative, meditative...

  • This is the must beautiful part of this opera .. :)

  • Beautiful singing. Still, he doesn't play acts as much. Villazon's version is a lot more unique in that regard.

  • Opera lovers are so funny. They ramble on about an artist's creativity and interpretation.Yet here comes Alagna whith a fresh interpretation of this aria and it is chastised for being different. THis aria, within context of opera, is not as sad as Caruso, Pavarotti and others have historically made it to be., Maybe, a little frivolity is a good thing in this aria..BEsides, embrace this different interpretation.

  • That's the thing: The aria is *NOT* sad. It begins reflective and even bemused, to a moment of realization ("M'ama! Si! M'ama!") and ends in an eruption of joy upon the realization that he is loved ("Cielo! Si puo morir!") I'm afraid Roberto doesn't do any of that, he's pretty stiff throughout. The only time when I saw an expression cross his face was when he was done singing.

  • Ma che versione è!!!???

  • There's bel canto artistic singing, and then theres a bit much. I think he's crossed the line a bit with his ornamentation here. Nemorino isn't a diva...so the extra just isn't called for in this character...not that it needs to be completely straight up, but this is a bit much. Also he comes off his chords at times at the top of his range. He's gotta work on keeping the chords together.

  • Muy amanerado....

  • Esta no es la versiòn original escrita por Donizetti.

    Questa non é la versione originale scrita perr Donizetti

  • bella voce,tecnica vocale sotto 0,stonato ........

  • E bravissimo....preferisco questa interpretazione .....bravo!!!

  • On peut préférer Pavarotti (dont je suis fan ) mais cette version me parait très bien , merci Roberto

  • y para cuando ...alagna,florez,y villazon...en vivo.

    produccion vamos ...¿¿¿¡¡¡..

  • m'ama, si m'ama lo vedo, lo vedo

  • Magnifique! Merci, Roberto.

  • Sensobrando tiene mucha razón.

    Hizo lo que se le vino en gana.

  • Are there different versions of this aria besides the cadenza in the very end? He is singing alot of diff notes from my score.

  • he has changed the score which is annoying, apparently the original was not good enough. But he is way too distracting when he does it.

  • please inform yourself, before babbeling away. This version is not by Alagna, but by Donizetti. Just because most of the tenors don't sing it it does not mean it's not supposed to be sung.

  • I don't believe I was stating anything that was misinformed. I have the version that he is singing, in fact have sung it many times, but he IS going off what was originally written and adding in his own interpretation, which is annoying. Before you feel the need to jump to any conclusions about what people know or do not know, do your fucking home work idiota.

  • Well funny, I have exactly the same version he sings. To the note. Perhaps you schould also consider, that at that time singers were really at liberty to do anything on stage.

  • There is another autograph of this aria by Donizetti from autumn 1843 (so about 10 years after the opera was written) and it's written a third lower than the original. He sings this second version, though in the key of the first version.

    I love it and also sing this version. The cadenza is in any case a piacere, at liberty of a singer.

  • How interesting. Do you know anything else of the story of this second versi'on.

    I know that Donizetti originaly wrote this melody for an oboe concert, I think and that he later used it for the nemorino Aria because he was lacking a good aria for the tenor in the opera.

  • my friends that's why this kind of music is called bel canto, which means the ability to make the aria your own, but this effect is only doable in bel canto never, his phrasing and adorment is beautiful in this aria a great lesson of belcanto, the score is written in and the artist creates art within the art, it requires a little of bit of research and studie to know that Mr Alagna is completely right and just in singing the aria with adornments and doesn't violate the code of bel canto.

  • Foi a primeira versão que ouvi desta bela ária e continuo fiel a ela! É a mais conforme o libreto. Bravissimo Roberto!

  • Oh, how wonderful, he does the ornamented version. Though it should be sung a third lower...

  • ti voglio bene Roberto

  • What the?

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  • è quasi meglio Aldo Bianchi

  • help me PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!­!

  • Qué versión tan exótica. Canta lo que le sale de los huevos. Pues nada, que le cunda.

  • Jejeje, Alagna siempre ofreciendo cosas nuevas y alternativas. Creo que es creativo y eso debe valorarse, sin embargo si se llegan a echar de menos algunas de las melodías originales de este pasaje. Variar esta bien siempre y cuando no se exagere. Me gustó el dominio de su voz aunque creo que fue algo rápido en el tempo. Buena interpretación, buen dominio de la voz, pero demasiado alejado de lo original. me quedó debiendo final: "si può morir, si può morir, d'amor". aún así, me gustó.

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  • @TheYzgy no comment ma chi ti credi di essere 'presuntuosissimo tenore '

  • troppi abbellimenti.. sei nella romanza sbagliata caro...

  • Ma da uno a 10...quanto sei BELLO Alagna????? Bello e bravo.......! Very good!!

  • troppo veloce maestro!!!

  • Por Dios, que le hizo este hombre a esa aria tan hermosa??? desastrozas sus "modificaciones" por asi llamarlas

  • the best una furtiva lacrima I ever hurt

  • Como tenor, mediocre... sin que esto sea una ofensa. Como interprete, desastroso. Quiero creer que lo hizo a proposito pero no acertó una nota. Y aparte de todo esto, se nota que no sabe lo que está cantando, porque esos cambios que hizo diluyen la profundidad del sentimiento de lo que canta.

  • Ne crois-tu pas que ce n'est pas Alagna, qui a choisi cette version (écrit aussi par Donizetti), mais le chef d'orchestre?

  • Alagna was 33 yrs old here - & looks about 18... Yes, he is NOT Pavoritti ( although he won the competition in '89) but he has (at this point) at lyric tenor voice, not a dramatic tenor. Anyway, who would you rather SEE in this role! Alagna & Gheorghiu are great in the DVD.

  • Very gentle and touching version! Thanks for posting!

  • I can't believe he began his career as a cabaret singer- its always sounds as if he was born to the opera.

  • You can hear the wonderful version of Joseph Schmidt also.

  • listening to all these youtube experts, sometimes i think myself fortunate that i dont know the nuances of opera, so i can think to myself 'this sounds great' instead of 'his technique is horrible and blah blah blah....'

  • Its easier to enjoy if you can't hear the faults, but I suspect another tenor can better appreciate all that is required to create such a beautiful sound.

    But in general I agree with you- I am sometimes glad I don't know enough about it to despise those performances I presently enjoy, so derided by those who know more.

    Alagna is not Pavarotti, but he is great to hear, nevertheless.

  • bravoooooooooooo

  • Magnifica interpretazione della seconda versione: davvero grande Alagna. Poche storie, un tenore lirico appassionato e anche tecnico. Bravo!!!

  • alagna no se encuentra ni por asomo entre mis tenres favoritos pero me ha alegrado encontrarme una versión suya de la furtiva lacrima más decente que la que enconté en una grabación, bajada un tono para poder realizar una cadenzza final HORROROSA, no obstante su prepotencia no le permite realizar un Nemorino creible, pero aún asi está correcto, me alegro por él

  • il a du coffre ce mec la!!bravo,leberger59

  • interesante las variaciones...  un solo instante i palpiti del suo bel cor sentir --genial..

  • And by the way, a great Nemorino is also Ramon Vargas. There is a studio recording conducted by Viotti from 1992. Amazing Rossini and Donizetti in this disc.

  • If you want to hear Alagna at his best in the Furtiva Lagrima in the later most known version, just listen to the Erato studio recording. Adina is Devia and conductor is Viotti, an expert conductor in Bel Canto. Too bad he passed away from a heart attack a few year ago...

  • When was this? 96?

  • Poi secondo lui sarebbero quelli che lo fischiano alla Scala a non capire una mazza?!!

    Ma la canti come si deve e ci faccia il piacere. Tenori più grandi non hanno osato deturpare l'originale, è arrivato lui a fare il figo della situazione... con risultati pessimi per giunta. Che Donizetti riposi in pace.

  • ma che stai a scrive? ma perche' non ragioni con il cervello? Prima cosa: Donizetti ha scritto questa versione cantata da Alagna dieci anni dopo la prima. Alagna non sta facendo assolutamente il presuntuoso. Per quel che riguarda il resto....Alagna merita piu' rispetto in confronto ad altri tenori che di lirica non hanno molto (vedasi Bocelli).

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  • I like this version! Even if it is not original, it's new and interesting. Traditionalists get stuck up their own asses sometimes :-p

  • to flaze3 - I like your :-p

    very cute. I enjoyed this also...

  • well I'm glad there's more than 1 person who liked the interp, lol :-)

  • Me encanta este hombre,aun que se sale de las linias del bell canto.

  • gran voz y version pero se pasa por el forro a Donizzeti xd

  • Nice interpretation!  But you must watch, not just listen.

  • Sounds like a baroque 'da capo', it's kinda funny - but I don't mean it's boring. There's a nice interpretation. Perhaps he felt that he could do that at Bel Canto, since the cadenzas must sound like improvises. He went just to far in this idea lol. Like Maria Callas and Una voce poco fà, perhaps.

  • absolutely right!

  • Alagna Voice es magnifique, but what happened to the music? he made a lot of variations on the original score, and I dont feel those were variations we could accept, the character of the composition is lost. However, always good to listen to a working tenor.

  • I am almost 100% positive that Donizetti wrote both versions of Una Furtiva Lacrima. I think this was the original and the more familiar one was written about ten years later. The DVD explains it very well.

  • Alagna, mai nome fu più azzeccato!

  • perchè?

    non vorrai dire lagna? dai che cattivi che siete :)

  • @amdnovello

    hem....si volevo proprio dire questo ma è un'opinione strettamente personale!!!! =P

    =)

  • :-)

  • Wow! He has an amazing voice!

  • I have a "regular" version of this aria at home ,also sang by alagna and it is just great! Much more fluid and emotional that this version (althought very original)...and it really showed his beautiful voice.

  • I feel like they're going too quickly.

    Just me?

  • Alagna is a great singer..yu can also Listen to the Turkish Tenor Bulent Bezduz trully amazing in that aria.

  • wonderful voice, even if the interpretation has some bugs

  • less than average undifferenciated interpretation!!!!

  • This is a WEAK INTERPRETATION....someone wrote great singer...are you joking? Can't you hear the uneven delivery how he overcovers in some places and spreads to much in others...very ameturish...you want to hear GREAT try PAVAROTTI....Pavarotti was no fool...the reason he supporetd this egotistical clown is because Alagna's singing just undersores how great Pavarotti was in comparison...I mean the guy is not even in the same league....and I don't want to hear the B.S. spinto vs lyric argument

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