The majority of Community products are not made from MDF. (just as a side note, Yamaha Club Series loudspeakers thru Club Series V were also MDF.) Only the very high-volume low-price MI-grade ("Music Industry") products are MDF. This is an old video; the carpet-covered model range (Community CSX S2) shown in the video are no longer made because the Chinese took away the market for an American-made MI-grade product.
@2:00, that is aspenite NOT MDF. That is junk and it only looks like it weighs about 20lbs. If those pieces were MDF, the weight would be about 80 - 100lbs, further more your so called MDF is too crude.
DUDE I WOULD LOVE TO SEE COMMUNITY LOUD SPEAKERS BUILD A SPEAKER THE SIZE OF AN ENTIRE SHEET OF THAT PLY WOOD FOUR FOOT WIDE AND 8 FOOT TALL ID BUY A PAIR
u call this pro audio lol... plz 1 rockford tweet 1 mid and a fi btl 18 would beat 20+ of these. nothing but cheap ass speakers. paper cones lol. foam surrounds good quality there.
@crazyhotdog12 you're an idiot, go suck off your idol meade. you're comparing car audio to pro audio (speakers used on stages and for concerts) 2 very different environments.
@HayaboostaTT hey moron i wasnt talking about meade hes running his own line of subs idiot. also btw since ur so smart at speakers u can make a box for a fi btl 18 for the same use as ur toliet paper cone speakers. lol btw love the 5 dollar tweeter on the boxs u add really gets the bang for ur buck!
@crazyhotdog12 I'd like to see a 18" Fi BTL delivering a good phase and magnitude response in 2pi environment (out doors) in any sort of cabinet. These subs work fine in a car delivering massive amounts of low frequency dB, but when you take these woofers out of the car and play them outdoors, the low freq SPL capability is gone since back pressure no more controls the cone like it does in a car. You can make me a believer by coming up with a good design in winisd or something similar. Take care
@DjCuddly Well you got sets up sound quality and spl, They can do both the subs are built like tanks and also can run off of 500-1000 watts just fine. How is it pointless i already tried this and i tried to make it fair. I use a 15 inch FBT and a 18 FBT both are they specs and i used a fi btl , the fi hit so hard and clear it choke you in the house.
this was very informing on how these community loudspeakers are manufactured, so i now no longer wonder how my mains community speakers are made, cool
see I cant stand the idea of a company that makes speakers for active musicians and sound engineers... has such a posh up top guy!? he seams like the type who doesn't know his ass from his hand when it comes to what a live application requires as far as durability and sound mass... just doesn't add up.
Obviously you've never worked with Community products, then. When graded against other products in their class, they perform on-par or sometimes better. Look around the industry at guys like Kenton Forsythe, John Meyer, and Tom Danley. People trust their products because these engineers have years of experience, not because they're youthful or pretty to look at.
you should do your homework before you talk shit.Bruce Howze has been doing live sound and designing audio systems since the 60s. one of the top minds in the pro audio industry.
Most PA full-range boxes have output that drops off very quickly below about 80 Hz. Manufacturers will often massage this spec, but look at the frequency response plot (if the manufacturer even lists one!) for the real story. Low frequencies take a lot of power to reproduce at high levels, and require large numbers of drivers working together. By restricting the low frequency band of the speaker, you can maximize the efficiency through the rest of the range. Most prosumer subs drop off by 50Hz.
when the guy lining up the voice coil on that horn is on at 8.53 you see his signal generator on the shelf the grey box with the needle dial on the front its the same one as mine im certain maplin gold XG93B
That's an old video of the Community plant. Most of their stuff these days is actually 13-ply Baltic Birch, of the stuff that's still made in the U.S.A.; that old antique CNC router has been replaced by a dual-table C.R. Onsrud 3-axis machine. Community has had a bit of an identity crisis, trying to serve the low-cost MI market and the high-dollar pro touring market under the same brand, which makes it difficult for their better stuff (mainly the SLS, iBOX, and R-series) to build the brand.
I dont see 13 ply Baltic Birch.... Let me be clear.... if you want an entry level cabinet stick with mdf or typical. Professional grade is baltic birch!! Baltic birch is lighter & needs less bracing while being much stronger. Community is known for cost reductions... Old community was much better.... come on guys... get it together & produce a superior product for a fair price!! Just want to say I am a degreed engineer & 15 year DJ, if you have any doubts of my comments.
Simple: Why buy the fact, if you can do yourself with a quality and unique if you propose, instead of buying andar fibreboard. In addition to what can be saved. The limits on the DIY ... Simply don´t exist.
The limit on DIY is the designer's ability to test multiple iterations of a design they develop and spend time tweaking it out to the extent that companies like Community, JBL, EAW, and Meyer Sound can. Computer simulation tools can take you farther than ever but eventually you need to build a prototype and be ready for the eventuality that what you build doesn't match the computer model.
Where are the nails, the saw, screws, glue Carpenter ... Definitely is not like before. None of the acoustic enclosures you see in the video is original. Where is the solid wood?. The plywood? Pine?.
All to cut costs ... Where is the true essence of acoustic enclosures.
I invite you to see my channel, acoustic enclosures true DIY. Everything as it should be.
I hope not to have offended anyone, because this is only my humble opinion.
I agree, on both levels. Community is a good value(for the money) AS a professional audio engineer who has been building and designing systems for over 26 years,I have a few issues with what I just viewed.The board material is chosen on cost,It's WAFER board, the MOST RESONate material you can find.On top of that issue, joints are NOT dadoed'.Butt joints. And where is the adhesive for those joints?Material only 5/8 or 3/4 in.doesn't have much surface area.Pneumatic STAPLES? Read my next post
yeah....it does look a bit older however they do and have always made very durable cabs...the Eminence speaker company makes very good speakers and more of them then any company in the world and their factory could also use a little cleaning ...perhaps the semi low tech look is a sign of being busy due to high demand.
wooofers
MegaDajer 5 days ago
this guy sucks as a presenter. "im the president and i will show my factory off" you suck!!!
ackthpppbt 2 weeks ago
we meet again 240p
Munro98 2 months ago
this is how speakers need to be made....not made like junk but carefully built by the great american hand
TheBlackRoseHero 3 months ago
The majority of Community products are not made from MDF. (just as a side note, Yamaha Club Series loudspeakers thru Club Series V were also MDF.) Only the very high-volume low-price MI-grade ("Music Industry") products are MDF. This is an old video; the carpet-covered model range (Community CSX S2) shown in the video are no longer made because the Chinese took away the market for an American-made MI-grade product.
rorybz 4 months ago
I'm not sure what's better Radio Shack or this Crap with a capital "c."
nickacil 4 months ago
@2:00, that is aspenite NOT MDF. That is junk and it only looks like it weighs about 20lbs. If those pieces were MDF, the weight would be about 80 - 100lbs, further more your so called MDF is too crude.
Thumbs down for junky speakers.
nickacil 4 months ago
see not all crap is made in china
doctor393 5 months ago 8
@doctor393 : LOL.
nickacil 4 months ago
MR. bruce howze wellcom to israel
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akamanutd 7 months ago
so what ?
MrFelt1000 8 months ago
Wow!
JimiKiwi 9 months ago
I bet hes a dickhead in person
jvoltron 9 months ago
Sigh...OSB....LOL
killersoundz 9 months ago
DUDE I WOULD LOVE TO SEE COMMUNITY LOUD SPEAKERS BUILD A SPEAKER THE SIZE OF AN ENTIRE SHEET OF THAT PLY WOOD FOUR FOOT WIDE AND 8 FOOT TALL ID BUY A PAIR
waylan3 1 year ago
@crazyhotdog12
Dude you have no idea where your talking about !
just like DjCuddly said. "car audio speakers are different then PA speakers''
the reason why is
1. PA speakers has a higher sensitivity rating what make it louder per watt !
2. it has a way stiffer suspension what keeps the Xmax low @ the same wattage as a car speaker with twice the Xmax.
plus its cheaper then High-End car audio equipment and still blast your head off .
so there you have it a explanation in a nutshell
bassbasher88 1 year ago
@bassbasher88 Nobody has any idea what you are talking about.
donepearce 11 months ago
@donepearce
is that a good or bad thing ?
bassbasher88 10 months ago
@bassbasher88 I suspect good.
donepearce 10 months ago
@donepearce I do.
iceman977th 7 months ago
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iceman977th 7 months ago
u call this pro audio lol... plz 1 rockford tweet 1 mid and a fi btl 18 would beat 20+ of these. nothing but cheap ass speakers. paper cones lol. foam surrounds good quality there.
crazyhotdog12 1 year ago
@crazyhotdog12 you're an idiot, go suck off your idol meade. you're comparing car audio to pro audio (speakers used on stages and for concerts) 2 very different environments.
HayaboostaTT 1 year ago
@HayaboostaTT hey moron i wasnt talking about meade hes running his own line of subs idiot. also btw since ur so smart at speakers u can make a box for a fi btl 18 for the same use as ur toliet paper cone speakers. lol btw love the 5 dollar tweeter on the boxs u add really gets the bang for ur buck!
crazyhotdog12 1 year ago
@crazyhotdog12 that entire reply made no sense, now go kill yourself.
HayaboostaTT 1 year ago
@HayaboostaTT yea made no sense maybe u should reread it then. and go to school for a audio since u dont know anything about it
crazyhotdog12 1 year ago
@crazyhotdog12 I'd like to see a 18" Fi BTL delivering a good phase and magnitude response in 2pi environment (out doors) in any sort of cabinet. These subs work fine in a car delivering massive amounts of low frequency dB, but when you take these woofers out of the car and play them outdoors, the low freq SPL capability is gone since back pressure no more controls the cone like it does in a car. You can make me a believer by coming up with a good design in winisd or something similar. Take care
DjCuddly 1 year ago
@DjCuddly they sure can build them to specs in there ported box with the right amount of watts and well see.
crazyhotdog12 1 year ago
@crazyhotdog12 Hehe, I see how well you know these things.. I guess it's pointless to discuss this subject..
DjCuddly 1 year ago
@DjCuddly Well you got sets up sound quality and spl, They can do both the subs are built like tanks and also can run off of 500-1000 watts just fine. How is it pointless i already tried this and i tried to make it fair. I use a 15 inch FBT and a 18 FBT both are they specs and i used a fi btl , the fi hit so hard and clear it choke you in the house.
crazyhotdog12 1 year ago
Muy interesante ....
awesome
ysraelcq 1 year ago
Very informative video. I never knew about the design and manufacturing that went into commercial sound products. Thanks for the video, NAMvideo.
destroyah3034 1 year ago
thanks for showing that to us. some of it was kinda cool.
gerard7622 1 year ago
this was very informing on how these community loudspeakers are manufactured, so i now no longer wonder how my mains community speakers are made, cool
SpeakerFreak95 2 years ago
Nice :) , I wanted to buy some Community RS 230 /220 (i think it was a 3Way horn,system) but now i have built my own 2.1 Full-Horn Sys. :>
regards
MetrakitProRaceII 2 years ago 3
see I cant stand the idea of a company that makes speakers for active musicians and sound engineers... has such a posh up top guy!? he seams like the type who doesn't know his ass from his hand when it comes to what a live application requires as far as durability and sound mass... just doesn't add up.
djfritzentertainment 2 years ago
Obviously you've never worked with Community products, then. When graded against other products in their class, they perform on-par or sometimes better. Look around the industry at guys like Kenton Forsythe, John Meyer, and Tom Danley. People trust their products because these engineers have years of experience, not because they're youthful or pretty to look at.
rbuszka 2 years ago
@djfritzentertainment
you should do your homework before you talk shit.Bruce Howze has been doing live sound and designing audio systems since the 60s. one of the top minds in the pro audio industry.
hollowpointred 2 years ago 2
My church has a pair of Community Speakers. They are fine for vocals but seem to have no sound below 100 Hz. They have 15" drivers BTW.
jeabo0adhd 2 years ago
Most PA full-range boxes have output that drops off very quickly below about 80 Hz. Manufacturers will often massage this spec, but look at the frequency response plot (if the manufacturer even lists one!) for the real story. Low frequencies take a lot of power to reproduce at high levels, and require large numbers of drivers working together. By restricting the low frequency band of the speaker, you can maximize the efficiency through the rest of the range. Most prosumer subs drop off by 50Hz.
rbuszka 2 years ago
when the guy lining up the voice coil on that horn is on at 8.53 you see his signal generator on the shelf the grey box with the needle dial on the front its the same one as mine im certain maplin gold XG93B
nexgenhippy 2 years ago
MDM = Crap!
wheelerwood 2 years ago
That's an old video of the Community plant. Most of their stuff these days is actually 13-ply Baltic Birch, of the stuff that's still made in the U.S.A.; that old antique CNC router has been replaced by a dual-table C.R. Onsrud 3-axis machine. Community has had a bit of an identity crisis, trying to serve the low-cost MI market and the high-dollar pro touring market under the same brand, which makes it difficult for their better stuff (mainly the SLS, iBOX, and R-series) to build the brand.
rbuszka 2 years ago
I dont see 13 ply Baltic Birch.... Let me be clear.... if you want an entry level cabinet stick with mdf or typical. Professional grade is baltic birch!! Baltic birch is lighter & needs less bracing while being much stronger. Community is known for cost reductions... Old community was much better.... come on guys... get it together & produce a superior product for a fair price!! Just want to say I am a degreed engineer & 15 year DJ, if you have any doubts of my comments.
DJMixNice 2 years ago
I see comunity stuff around here every ware. They got Comunity subs at my Highschool and they do the job good.
MSNIMSM 2 years ago
Simple: Why buy the fact, if you can do yourself with a quality and unique if you propose, instead of buying andar fibreboard. In addition to what can be saved. The limits on the DIY ... Simply don´t exist.
tacatomon 2 years ago
The limit on DIY is the designer's ability to test multiple iterations of a design they develop and spend time tweaking it out to the extent that companies like Community, JBL, EAW, and Meyer Sound can. Computer simulation tools can take you farther than ever but eventually you need to build a prototype and be ready for the eventuality that what you build doesn't match the computer model.
rbuszka 2 years ago
he truth is, disappointing.
Where are the nails, the saw, screws, glue Carpenter ... Definitely is not like before. None of the acoustic enclosures you see in the video is original. Where is the solid wood?. The plywood? Pine?.
All to cut costs ... Where is the true essence of acoustic enclosures.
I invite you to see my channel, acoustic enclosures true DIY. Everything as it should be.
I hope not to have offended anyone, because this is only my humble opinion.
Greetings!.
tacatomon 2 years ago
hey all my speakers are going what can I do to your play again
hansnielsen1989 2 years ago
Nice, I like .
YorgiMilan 2 years ago
S series fell apart.
Cheap wood. may as well be balsa
Would not buy again
rkohl01 2 years ago
Back when I went through my horn-loaded phase in the '70s, I had a pair of Community SRH-60 horns. They were certainly pretty loud.
basspig 2 years ago
I've got a pair of their xp525 dual 15" 3-way cabs. 600w RMS 1500w program power @ 4 ohms.
Like 'em a lot
InfiniteRealms 3 years ago
Jó vidi.......itt én is dolgoznék szivesen:P
krisztianp16 3 years ago
Jó hangfalak:)
krisztianp16 3 years ago
I agree, on both levels. Community is a good value(for the money) AS a professional audio engineer who has been building and designing systems for over 26 years,I have a few issues with what I just viewed.The board material is chosen on cost,It's WAFER board, the MOST RESONate material you can find.On top of that issue, joints are NOT dadoed'.Butt joints. And where is the adhesive for those joints?Material only 5/8 or 3/4 in.doesn't have much surface area.Pneumatic STAPLES? Read my next post
stpsmf 3 years ago
waffer board!!!!!!!!!!!
CHEAP!!!!!!
jeabo0adhd 3 years ago
at 1:45.... i want that table saw on steroids at my shop. would make my life alot easier.
schrummy14 3 years ago
nice vid, but this factory looks like it needs some cleaning
audioh0lic 3 years ago
yeah....it does look a bit older however they do and have always made very durable cabs...the Eminence speaker company makes very good speakers and more of them then any company in the world and their factory could also use a little cleaning ...perhaps the semi low tech look is a sign of being busy due to high demand.
MightySaturn5 3 years ago
very cool thanks for the vid that was awesome
headoyster 3 years ago
SWEET I WANT ONE,LOL
HOGGMIDDLESCHOOL 3 years ago
me too
raymondleeleggs 3 years ago
lol
HOGGMIDDLESCHOOL 3 years ago
these speakers are the shit!!!!!
mtech 3 years ago