The Problem with Obama's Socialized Government Healthcare

[dignerds]

what is wrong with us on this issue?we look to isreal for ideas regarding terrorism,we could do the same with healthcare.they have a combination inter linked system,GOV. vs.private is a false choice.is public working with private so terrible? the main goal is to stop humans from dieing.isreal is more socialized than france,theres no tyrany in isreal.socailizm and capitalism are not evil,its how we conduct both.we need to get away from idiological false choices.

[rtggap]

another insurance company promo and the end of empathy for each other, if you cant pay die approach to health care. why are the canadains, swedish,norwegians, finish, germans, french.....all unhappy and dying for lack of health care......../

[HappyMurderingSlut]

People die here waiting to see the doctor, too. 

[124362783762]

Ye it's great if you can afford this efficient, creative service, so what do ye do if ye can't. A privatized health care system is all about profit, it's not for the people, and certainly not for the people who need it the most. This guy has a real neo-liberalist attitude about how the health care system should be run, the only problem is that neo-liberalism creates a darwinism economy where it's survival of the fittest, and it's the marginalized that loose out on that one.

[crzywitboy3]

Go to the site below to sign a petition against this health care system. We must stand up and be counted before it is too late.

[crzywitboy3]

. REPEALITNOW. org

[garethac81]

The USA always gets its ass kicked whenever any international ranking of healthcare systems is compiled...and, since this douchebag mentions Canada, Canada is among the many nations that typically rank higher than the US. The American healthcare system, comparative to the massive wealth of the nation, is a pile of shit. The fact that any Western nation, in the 21st century, still thinks good health is a privilege (for those who can afford it) and not a right (for EVERYONE) is ludicrous.

[jesuriah]

@garethac81 I think anything would be better than the broken system we have now. $30,000 to have a metal plate stuck in my eye from being assaulted. I made minimum wage at the time.

Most of the neocon ideologues have always had the money, or the ability, to have health insurance. I know people with psychological problems who can't afford the $400 a month it takes to fill up their medications.

TL;DR

I agree!

[ineternitypast]

at 2:09 a pretty accurate microcosm of the functionality of govt on a large scale

but the narrator fails to point out that the reason bureaucracies are inefficient is that they are often times managed and engineered by politicians who have no experience in business

[rba718]

I'm all for government regulations for health-care, after all, we are the backbone of the country and need to be able to support it without being gouged or treated unfairly. But I really hope some of the things such as fines for not having insurance are just erroneous and far right talking points. I don't even like being forced to pay car insurance, I don't want it for health insurance either.

[taratorah]

If we could go back to the system we had before the bureaucrats got involved (MANY years ago), we would all have high-quality, affordable health care. The way it is now, GOVERNMENT has created our problem, and wants us to trust them to fix it. WHAT? Why don't we all just do the research and find out how Americans used to do things? The bureaucrats are counting on us to remain ignorant of the facts, and are using emotional tactics to keep us off-balance.

The man in this video has a clue.

[xmartinj]

The real reason healthcare is more expensive in America is because Americans are significantly less healthy then other countries. We pay twice as much as Canada, but we're also twice as obese. Most countries with socialized medicine have a culture where people would rather live healthier and avoid medicine if possible. In America, we're OK with gorging ourselves and taking vast quantities of pills to manage our blood pressure, cholesterol, and other unhealthy symptoms. We prefer to blame others.

[MagnumSerpentine]

People who have emergencies in Canada are seen right away, in fact Faster than they are seen in the United States. People who need cancer screening are seen right away. Unfortunately that is not the same in the United States. My Friend has to wait 6 bloody months to get a cancer screening on a suspect area because her insurance company said so. thats right here in the good ole USA waiting for a screening that in Canada happens instantly.

[crazziii]

Please check your facts. You have to go through a bunch of crap in Canada to get ANY care. The best personal healthcare plan for a person in Canada is to not get sick.

[johnandraquell]

When your bleeding to death, do you want your hospital to be like the MVD? That pass this stupid bill and bleed to death.

[DSBrekus]

Yeah poor people should be allowed to die so rich people can get better health care for themselves, sounds great.

Not.

[johnandraquell]

Incentive to better oneself via education and diligence is lost when everything is given for free. If a man does not work he does not eat.

So we all die waiting because all of the hypochondriacs will be wasting all of the docs time. just like Europe

I am the "poor" I don't have health care, I cannot afford it right now, but I am not willing to be stupid about this and destroy our ways so that a couple of bums can suckle from the tit of uncle SAM.

[DSBrekus]

Being injured and getting sick is not a product of lack of education or being a bum it is a product of BAD LUCK personally I don't think people should be punished for having bad luck anymore then they already are (pain and inability to work temporarily)

[johnandraquell]

Tusha

[srvinfinity]

Why can't Drs. have a sliding pay scale?

[LiberalOption]

Didn't Michel Moore once point to UK health system... what's wrong with that one?

[littlemas2]

I agree with the message of this video, but I have not really heard a viable alternative. Right now the healthcare costs are sky rocketing. I just talked to a guy yesterday that is paying $15,000 a year for major medical health insurance ($3000 deductible). He can no longer afford it, and so should he simply go without? What happens if something major does happen? Bankruptcy or death? Can you point me to a real world solution?

[mwshane76]

A real solution: Limit malpractice lawsuits and initiate tort reform. It has been brought up several times but the democrats can't do that because lawyers provide precious campaign money to line their war chests. Obama flat out told the AMA he would not put limits on Malpractice law suits. Malpractice insurance is one of the highest costs a doctor has to pay. If we could limit malpractice lawsuits, malpractice insurance wouldn't be so high hence lowering the cost of healthcare.

[TeHGoodReverend]

I agree good point!

[littlemas2]

Yes, I agree that this is certainly part of the solution. The funny thing is that a single payer government system will stop these malpractice lawsuits, because the lawyers will not be able to sue the government.

[jcrebel18]

I'm sorry about the guy you met, but going with a bad solution isn't going to solve the problem.

[Thill029]

one of the main reasons that health insurance is so expensive in the US is state mandates. The government tells insurance companies what they have to cover, which includes a long list of stuff that most people don't need. It's the equivilent to the government saying you either have to buy a ferarri or no car at all. If insurance companies were allowed to operate freely, most Americans would be able to afford health insurance.

[littlemas2]

I have just recently heard something similar, and I am beginning to think that this is obviously part of the solution as well. Health insurance for me would be much cheaper if I could define my coverage myself like I do auto insurance or home insurance.

[crazziii]

I would like to do that, too. Only I'm scared if I get sick with something I'm not covered for I'd be screwed.

[crazziii]

Another reason Health Insurance is expensive is because of how expensive it is to create the medicine in the first place. Also the FDA slows medical companies down by testing or having possible cures sit on the shelves for years while other drugs are being looked at. Its all expensive so if we want the medicine will have to pay. If we stop paying they won't make the medicine - there would be no way to fund it. Unless taxes were hiked way up.

[davidmesaaz]

Its like the world that works and the world that doesn't ....

[davidmesaaz]

Governments can never accurately predict price. No single body can there are trillions of decisions that make up price. Because the government can never get the price right it never sends the right signals to the market it. Socialized medicine either creates too little health care resulting in shortages or too much health care creating a ton of debt and waste.