I'd bet that a good amount of the price increase here is from the Mogami wiring. Mogami cables are ridiculously expensive. Like jumpers for in between pedals cost like 25-30 dollars a pop.
what they probably do on handwired pedals and maybe some amps is just put better quality components to make them sound better but acting like handwired jobs is what does the trick, you think electricity and signals care what kind of circuit they run through? I like handwired stuff though especially if I did it so I can tweak and mod things easily if I want.
andy do you have any idea how the DRRI was set (channel input and knobs)- i have a drri, a les paul and a similar overdrive pedal and would love to know the amp settings you had
From the packaging, to the build quality, to the tone this thing brings, you can see why it costs so much (well maybe not quite $350).
Honestly though, this is the BEST sounding tube screamer without a doubt and only surpassed by the original itself. I understand the price is a little extreme, but when the choice is between $150 for a good pedal and $350 for the best, you have to understand that it's something you may keep for the rest of your life so why skimp on the buy?
@smiskf18 Not sure but there are enough to be had. They are just a bit pricey but I will be buying at least one for play/collecting purposes. Handwired is always a good bet for longevity and resale.
Question - I'm pullin' an SRV here and I wanna use two tube screamers, obviously for different tones. I have a TS9, and I'm pretty happy with the tones I can get out of it, but I can't decide which I should get as a second pedal - the TS808, or the TS808HW. I can hear the tones you're getting here in this demo, but is there really a big difference between the two?
@timijai22 Get the standard 808. Barely any difference between that and the HW, even for audiophiles it's not worth it. Unless you are ridiculously rich of course! lol
@gaaramonkeyx have to disagree. I ab'd them both side by side for over 2 hours and wow. The TS808hw is much more transparent and crystal clear. I am sure it depends on the amp you are using but teh TS808hw is much better.
Clearer, richer, lush organic tone, with much improved equalization! Deeper bass, less treble in the highs, to help cure ice pick tone. Refined, slightly toned down mids. Any way you cut it, this is the only tube screamer pedal really worth it to invest big money in it. Otherwise, people should just get a Behringer TO800 for only 40.00, it's the same thing as all the other tube screamer clones, for much better value, only sacrifices pedal construction quality, not tone.
I notice the pedal doesn't have the best parts inside!! for example, I would choose a Wima or Panasonic cap over those green caps! I would also use better quailty 'Metal film' resisters, this handwired Ibanez is not a bad pedal at all! but I just think for what your paying, you should get the best parts!
Its better to build one your sell and save loads of money!! plus you get to choose what goes in the pedal! decent capacitors etc and they don't cost the earth!! ive made some pedals and they sound as good or better than these overpriced company products! unless you really want the brandname on your pedal??
just remember, a tubescreamer will sound great with amps that aren't totally abundant with mids. like this DRRI. with something like a marshall or an orange though, it can be overkill adding gobs of mids to a signal already saturated with mids.
i love this pedal. i have this and a TS9. this one sounds a lot better. plus it's cool if you're simply into limited edition stuff, like me. i'd probably never gig this pedal, and would use my TS9. it's just nice to play and look at.
god damnit i was on my way to the store to buy this pedal and i crashed my car in the rain going to fast i was so excited. now i'll have to save and fix my car and wait more!!! dammit!!!!!!!!!
@willievega I've got 2 of the original TS-808's I bought new in the early 80's and I recently bought this. It's worth EVERY penny. In a way it makes me disappointed though. Because you see how much better hand-made quality is VS Chinese mass-produced garbage these days. I'd rather pay more for quality than save a $100 and have sub-standard bullshit. I actually like the HW 808 more than my original 808's. It is more smooth and transparent.
@guitarthroat Yeah bud, it's far and away better sounding. It is as you say, more transparent and just all around much better. This is a pedal that you will buy once and keep forever. This is the catch: it makes you wanna keep on playing and not stop! That only happens when you have something really good.
@cbappa2 Yeah, the two original 808's I bought in 1983 new. They are beat up, but work as good as the day I bought them. So you shell out $350 for this. If it lasts 27 years, who cares? People who are saying it's overpriced bullshit must not work in manufacturing. If you paid a worker $15 an hour to build this for 5 hours, theres $75 right there. The standard reissue is around $170. So paying the extra cash is reasonable, the build quality on this is first-rate. It is made to last.
@radomu1 If somebody built this by hand, they need to get paid to do the work they do. I'm not sure what planet you live on, but The standard 808 reissue is $170 and it is made by automated, mass-production methods. I'm an engineer for G.E. and hand soldering is a tedious and time consuming thing if you want quality. The cost difference from the standard to this is because you had to pay labor and still turn a profit from its sale. Do you work for free? Should Ibanez employees?
@radomu1 Maybe you should petition the Hoshino Gakki (Ibanez) corporation to just make their production employees work for free or stop trying to produce profit from their sales because you're a cheap fuck. If you don't like this, don't buy it. But it sounds to me like you'd like to own this and are too cheap to buy it because you think everything should be cheap or free. Well, this is capitalism and people need to get paid for the goods and labor they produce.
i have never turned E to E in over 25 years, always liked Eb to Eb and string bending becomes a piece of cake, besides never liked the starting note as E anyway. :P
tube screamer? my favorite pedal of all time, this one is great but i prefer the original TS9 to be honest.
Going through some of your "older" videos and it got me thinking...what does your finger that you strum with look like? There is no way that it's normal. haha
I have this. They are amazing. Analogman done tests on it to find out what made it so open sounding and he failed to find out. Its the chip they reissued only for this particular version. Everything else in the pedal cannot make it sound the way it does. Its the chip forsure. Its so open. A true tube screamer should only push your tubes and add "nothing". Its a tube driver, to make your tubes drive into sustain more nothing else, clones add their muddiness to the tone. This pedal is amazing.
Sometimes, your guitar and amps makes a huge difference...Your amp EQ etc etc takes into consideration and how you complement the pedal's tone to your amp.....
jesus.I thought that was actually love struck baby off the album at first.scary close tone.Is the bypass on this that much better than the ts808 regular?cause i dont wanna mud up or change my tone but i want a tubescreamer too.
I have this same pedal and also a B.K. Butler Tube Overdrive, and I have to say that I prefer the Butler, more smoother, rich and full sounding and also is less noisy than the TS808HW (I play a guitar with single coil pickups). Dont get me wrong this is a great pedal but the butler wins hands down :D
i just bought this pedal, i had a $50 off coupon which is the only reason i bought it.
This video really doesnt do it justice, it sounds freakin aweson and when i add my tl-2 in there i get sustain for days im not kidding. It has a real organic sound.
I wonder how many of the people here have actually tried the pedal themselves, and how many other ODs and TSs they have actually played, to which it should be compared, and not to distortion pedals (?!!??!?). I can honestly say it's one of the absolute best overdrives that I've had the pleasure to play. Responsive to playing, juicy, natural, full and not boxy sounding... fantastic. For someone that has tried a lot of TSs, when played IN PERSON it shows what a really good TS can do.
@JIMMYJIBLETS Barber Dirty Bomb, AMT B1, or a vintage Ibanez SD9 or SM9 would shit all over the one sided tubescreamer pedals and they all cost half the price. I don't mind the original ts808 but still...tubescreamers are too limited functionally to pay 300 odd dollars for.
@brucefan181 Nah, its price isn't a reflection of its versatility and tone. My '84 Ibanez SM9 Super Metal would kill this thing, and its half the price. I got it for about 170 bucks shipped. Best distortion you can imagine, it goes the FULL spectrum of tones from clean to all out shred. These old JRC chips are nothing to fuck with.
I have a Mesa Boogie 5:25 Express, and want to use this to add more sustain to my solos. Should I run this pedal in my effects loop or in front of the amp?
why not just buy a bk butler REAL tube overdrive? they're handwired and used by dudes like eric johnson and use a real tube for the warm excellent lead tone. if i was playing metal i'd have a maxon or ibanez for a boost to tighten up the sound but for a beautiful tone i'd go with bk butler they're SO MUCH less
why not just buy a bk butler REAL tube overdrive? they're handwired and used by dudes like eric johnson and use a real tube for the warm excellent lead tone. if i was playing metal i'd have a maxon or ibanez for a boost to tighten up the sound but for a beautiful tone i'd go with bk butler they're SO MUCH less
sorry man but i have to disagree. Had the bluesbreaker pedal and it sounded like crap. It's better to save some money and buy a good pedal than just buy plenty of crappy ones.
@arekceg The current Bluesbreaker might be crap, but the firsts edition is fantastic. I've had one since it came out and it is the perfect mild overdrive.
This one is for the collector. I mean who's gonna take this out to a gig w/out an armed gurad! I wouldn't take this out of the house!! What's the point. By the way, best TB I've ever heard.
Keeley themselves compared this pedal to all other TS's including their own modded ones. They agree that it does sound warmer and smoother, but still doesn't compare to the original.
I'd rather spend money on this for the tone, brand new, then a 29 year old pedal that has been heavily used. They are about the same price.
sarcasm. my point was it sounds like a tubescreamer, so why bother with it when you can get a pedal that sounds just like it for less than half a price.
Getting a real vintage Tube Screamer is easily gonna cost over $350. And Mogami wire isn't cheap. I would buy this if I had money. They aren't gonna be around for long. Then I could sell it for more than what I paid. There is an idea.
It actually is a PCB. The traces are on the bottom. The only difference is that the holes are on the sides in the form of metal lugs like on turret strips.
of course it is, all you need for ac/dc solos is a guitar and a loud amp, the distortion that angus achieves is all natural, relying on drive of a tube amp on a clean channel created by sheer volume, except for on the razor's edge album, where he had higher gain effects, experimenting with metal tone.
If you want a great TS808 build it yourself. Its only 60bucks (kit) and it will only take you around 3 hours to build it. Everyone can do it. And there are loads of mods that then sounds amazing!!!
Umm... you can buy a ts9 and spend 50 more dollars (maximum if you don't even have a solder gun) and turn it into a real deal ts808 and do a true bypass mod.
This thing is genius. Well worth the money. Andy Timmons told me he bought a vintage TS808 for $350 and it sucks tone. Great sound but it isn't true bypass. Mogami doesn't come cheap and having an entire pedal hand wired with it isn't cheap either. So it doesn't suck any tone. This is pure genius.
Youtube is full of shred wankers playing at a million bpm, but give me a PGS demo over that shit anytime - I could listen to Andy play all day long. Castles made of sand - NAILED!!!
I'd bet that a good amount of the price increase here is from the Mogami wiring. Mogami cables are ridiculously expensive. Like jumpers for in between pedals cost like 25-30 dollars a pop.
zdkezios 6 hours ago
what they probably do on handwired pedals and maybe some amps is just put better quality components to make them sound better but acting like handwired jobs is what does the trick, you think electricity and signals care what kind of circuit they run through? I like handwired stuff though especially if I did it so I can tweak and mod things easily if I want.
FingerLickinGravy67 3 weeks ago
Hey
andy do you have any idea how the DRRI was set (channel input and knobs)- i have a drri, a les paul and a similar overdrive pedal and would love to know the amp settings you had
fuzzymuffPI 1 month ago
what makes this better than the ts9?
RofICopters 1 month ago
can't believe how high ibanez priced this pedal. you can get a keeley modded 808 for this price.
PNB2112 2 months ago
@PNB2112
From the packaging, to the build quality, to the tone this thing brings, you can see why it costs so much (well maybe not quite $350).
Honestly though, this is the BEST sounding tube screamer without a doubt and only surpassed by the original itself. I understand the price is a little extreme, but when the choice is between $150 for a good pedal and $350 for the best, you have to understand that it's something you may keep for the rest of your life so why skimp on the buy?
Carthsgtr 2 months ago
Sounds awesome, but damn it, how expensive.
gnrcr 3 months ago
Great demonstration
Forcelord 3 months ago
Great vid, thanks so much!
tenorbanjoguy 4 months ago
It´s really open sounded, no cold hear, awesome pedal!!!
smiskf18 5 months ago
When did Ibanez release the TS808 HW, and how many has been built?
smiskf18 6 months ago
@smiskf18 Not sure but there are enough to be had. They are just a bit pricey but I will be buying at least one for play/collecting purposes. Handwired is always a good bet for longevity and resale.
willeng84 4 months ago
pff is to expensive and not is da best :\ … Check “The Plush Valve Job" IS A REAL TUBE DRIVE
SalasFrank86 6 months ago
350 $ ???
come on!!! we can get a blues junior fender amp for that price
great pedal
weird pricing
themaninme 7 months ago 14
I think the Green Rhino is more versatile, arguably "better" depending on what you are going for.
Whyrendog 8 months ago
i jizzed my pants hearing this :o but ddamnnnnn! 350$ is expensive...if i had the money id buy it haha
TheDeanRose 8 months ago
Question - I'm pullin' an SRV here and I wanna use two tube screamers, obviously for different tones. I have a TS9, and I'm pretty happy with the tones I can get out of it, but I can't decide which I should get as a second pedal - the TS808, or the TS808HW. I can hear the tones you're getting here in this demo, but is there really a big difference between the two?
timijai22 11 months ago
@timijai22 Get the standard 808. Barely any difference between that and the HW, even for audiophiles it's not worth it. Unless you are ridiculously rich of course! lol
gaaramonkeyx 11 months ago
@gaaramonkeyx have to disagree. I ab'd them both side by side for over 2 hours and wow. The TS808hw is much more transparent and crystal clear. I am sure it depends on the amp you are using but teh TS808hw is much better.
TestamentMarketing 11 months ago 4
@gaaramonkeyx
Clearer, richer, lush organic tone, with much improved equalization! Deeper bass, less treble in the highs, to help cure ice pick tone. Refined, slightly toned down mids. Any way you cut it, this is the only tube screamer pedal really worth it to invest big money in it. Otherwise, people should just get a Behringer TO800 for only 40.00, it's the same thing as all the other tube screamer clones, for much better value, only sacrifices pedal construction quality, not tone.
RogerBarrettLives 8 months ago 3
I notice the pedal doesn't have the best parts inside!! for example, I would choose a Wima or Panasonic cap over those green caps! I would also use better quailty 'Metal film' resisters, this handwired Ibanez is not a bad pedal at all! but I just think for what your paying, you should get the best parts!
Fender1976uk 1 year ago
You can build a blues breaker pedal, I think GGG pedals do a kit? don't bother with re-issues etc.
Fender1976uk 1 year ago
Its better to build one your sell and save loads of money!! plus you get to choose what goes in the pedal! decent capacitors etc and they don't cost the earth!! ive made some pedals and they sound as good or better than these overpriced company products! unless you really want the brandname on your pedal??
Fender1976uk 1 year ago
How does this compare to Maxon's top offerings? (ie. True tube overdrive, etc)
xitongzou 1 year ago
just remember, a tubescreamer will sound great with amps that aren't totally abundant with mids. like this DRRI. with something like a marshall or an orange though, it can be overkill adding gobs of mids to a signal already saturated with mids.
41224jason 1 year ago
GREAT PEDAL AND EASY ON THE BATTERY!!!!
badman5551 1 year ago
@badman5551 yea i play for at least a couple hours a day and the battery has lasted months
sillydillydokieo 1 year ago
IM a love struck baby i must confess...
eliteslayer66 1 year ago
i love this pedal. i have this and a TS9. this one sounds a lot better. plus it's cool if you're simply into limited edition stuff, like me. i'd probably never gig this pedal, and would use my TS9. it's just nice to play and look at.
sillydillydokieo 1 year ago
its funny that you can build this pedal for about 35 dollars yourself :D
this one looks awesome though!
seicheberlin 1 year ago
god damnit i was on my way to the store to buy this pedal and i crashed my car in the rain going to fast i was so excited. now i'll have to save and fix my car and wait more!!! dammit!!!!!!!!!
sillydillydokieo 1 year ago
@sillydillydokieo are u fucking serious..
hecknot14 1 year ago
@sillydillydokieo Wow man, that's a major bummer. Good luck.
willievega 1 year ago
I was prepared to talk crap about this pedal with regards to it's price. Well I did a side by side with my old (Maxon/Ibanez) modded to 808 spec TS-9.
Let me tell you this pedal's got me thinking about shelling out the damned $350.
I hate that it totally whipped my modded TS-9.
Sounds amazing, and I'm pissed.
willievega 1 year ago
@willievega I've got 2 of the original TS-808's I bought new in the early 80's and I recently bought this. It's worth EVERY penny. In a way it makes me disappointed though. Because you see how much better hand-made quality is VS Chinese mass-produced garbage these days. I'd rather pay more for quality than save a $100 and have sub-standard bullshit. I actually like the HW 808 more than my original 808's. It is more smooth and transparent.
guitarthroat 1 year ago
@guitarthroat Yeah bud, it's far and away better sounding. It is as you say, more transparent and just all around much better. This is a pedal that you will buy once and keep forever. This is the catch: it makes you wanna keep on playing and not stop! That only happens when you have something really good.
willievega 1 year ago
How long lifetime does pedals like these have?
Nimrod9458 1 year ago
@Nimrod9458 forever if you treat it right
cbappa2 1 year ago
@cbappa2 Yeah, the two original 808's I bought in 1983 new. They are beat up, but work as good as the day I bought them. So you shell out $350 for this. If it lasts 27 years, who cares? People who are saying it's overpriced bullshit must not work in manufacturing. If you paid a worker $15 an hour to build this for 5 hours, theres $75 right there. The standard reissue is around $170. So paying the extra cash is reasonable, the build quality on this is first-rate. It is made to last.
guitarthroat 1 year ago
it sounds "too perfect" if you know what i mean. i prefer me some fuzz =D
MrBlink41SUM 1 year ago
this overpriced shit
radomu1 1 year ago
@radomu1 If somebody built this by hand, they need to get paid to do the work they do. I'm not sure what planet you live on, but The standard 808 reissue is $170 and it is made by automated, mass-production methods. I'm an engineer for G.E. and hand soldering is a tedious and time consuming thing if you want quality. The cost difference from the standard to this is because you had to pay labor and still turn a profit from its sale. Do you work for free? Should Ibanez employees?
guitarthroat 1 year ago
@radomu1 Maybe you should petition the Hoshino Gakki (Ibanez) corporation to just make their production employees work for free or stop trying to produce profit from their sales because you're a cheap fuck. If you don't like this, don't buy it. But it sounds to me like you'd like to own this and are too cheap to buy it because you think everything should be cheap or free. Well, this is capitalism and people need to get paid for the goods and labor they produce.
guitarthroat 1 year ago
i have never turned E to E in over 25 years, always liked Eb to Eb and string bending becomes a piece of cake, besides never liked the starting note as E anyway. :P
tube screamer? my favorite pedal of all time, this one is great but i prefer the original TS9 to be honest.
YearraeY 1 year ago
Going through some of your "older" videos and it got me thinking...what does your finger that you strum with look like? There is no way that it's normal. haha
tylerdwells 1 year ago
I have this. They are amazing. Analogman done tests on it to find out what made it so open sounding and he failed to find out. Its the chip they reissued only for this particular version. Everything else in the pedal cannot make it sound the way it does. Its the chip forsure. Its so open. A true tube screamer should only push your tubes and add "nothing". Its a tube driver, to make your tubes drive into sustain more nothing else, clones add their muddiness to the tone. This pedal is amazing.
nznaturopath 1 year ago
does this have less gain then the standard 808 or ts9?
mrboverbro 1 year ago
what cables are being used to plug the guitar into the pedal and pedal to the amp? I've never seen ends of cables that look like those
darkragnarok21 1 year ago 6
@darkragnarok21 - Core X2 Cables, conveniently for sale on our website. Thanks for watching!
-PGS Video Crew
ProGuitarShopDemos 1 year ago 11
@ProGuitarShopDemos oops you still have the 20ft cable my bad
GrowTheCaine 11 months ago
Idk, if I'm paying extra for a Tubescreamer, I'd buy the Keeley Modified one.
It's tons better, more gain, more bass response, not muddy...
PERFECT!
Goth3m3 1 year ago
Sometimes, your guitar and amps makes a huge difference...Your amp EQ etc etc takes into consideration and how you complement the pedal's tone to your amp.....
philotze 1 year ago
So Andy, how is this compared to the standard 808?
stewie9793 1 year ago
jesus.I thought that was actually love struck baby off the album at first.scary close tone.Is the bypass on this that much better than the ts808 regular?cause i dont wanna mud up or change my tone but i want a tubescreamer too.
rockerdude29 1 year ago
is there a reason for having the smaller power input? and it comes with an adaptor for the standard sized power jack anyway so i dont see the point
TheRealErob 1 year ago
SRV SOUND!!!
I love it but I think 350$ is too much!!
ToMeR666ET 1 year ago
Should I get this? I am thinking of also getting a Rat 2. I already have a Big Muff and just want to try to cover all grounds. *grin*
andy92811 1 year ago
I have this same pedal and also a B.K. Butler Tube Overdrive, and I have to say that I prefer the Butler, more smoother, rich and full sounding and also is less noisy than the TS808HW (I play a guitar with single coil pickups). Dont get me wrong this is a great pedal but the butler wins hands down :D
miguelazaro83 1 year ago
back in black :D
hansbrix2 1 year ago
It's funny how every one freaks out about the JR4558 op-amp even though it makes almost no impact on the tone.
Ilovemyfender2 1 year ago
i just bought this pedal, i had a $50 off coupon which is the only reason i bought it.
This video really doesnt do it justice, it sounds freakin aweson and when i add my tl-2 in there i get sustain for days im not kidding. It has a real organic sound.
CMajor5th 1 year ago
I wonder how many of the people here have actually tried the pedal themselves, and how many other ODs and TSs they have actually played, to which it should be compared, and not to distortion pedals (?!!??!?). I can honestly say it's one of the absolute best overdrives that I've had the pleasure to play. Responsive to playing, juicy, natural, full and not boxy sounding... fantastic. For someone that has tried a lot of TSs, when played IN PERSON it shows what a really good TS can do.
bloodySunday77 1 year ago
This is way too much for a TS. I mean, for that rues sound its way cheaper to get a Maxon OD808, and its a killer pedal.
This thing sounds great but the there isn't much complexity in a TS, and a lot of brands can get the 808 sound.
Crashoverall 1 year ago
fucking 350 dollars that may change ur tone for the rest of ur life....
Xxsynysterg8sxX 1 year ago
You people have to realize this and the TS9 are NOT for metal. They're great for blues and some classic rock.
pizzulo81 1 year ago 2
@pizzulo81
the pedal itself is really not for metal.
but using it as a booster gives you a much better distorted tone in front of an distorted tube amp
4ntiIvIon 1 year ago
I would like to hear what this thing could do with some serious Meatl riffs
odnick 1 year ago
The Rothwell Hellbender is better
MrBurnyAM 1 year ago
it´s Castles Made of Sand by Jimi Hendrix =)
PoisonedApplesOnline 2 years ago
What was the song at 3:10
sam8404 2 years ago
Sand Castles Made Of Sand by Jimi Hendrix
Listen to the RHCP version of it live. it's amazing.
herberj7 2 years ago
Get the Keeley TS808 TB is cheaper and bigger better sound
wolfsoto 2 years ago 2
The Keeley Ts-808 is cheaper but this one is better because it's hand wired "point to point" Keeley's TS is made with print circuit!!!
MrChrisguitar 2 years ago
this thing worth the $350?
brucefan181 2 years ago 4
@brucefan181
not by a long shot. you can get way nicer boutique pedals for this price.
JIMMYJIBLETS 2 years ago
@JIMMYJIBLETS Barber Dirty Bomb, AMT B1, or a vintage Ibanez SD9 or SM9 would shit all over the one sided tubescreamer pedals and they all cost half the price. I don't mind the original ts808 but still...tubescreamers are too limited functionally to pay 300 odd dollars for.
RNRDOLL 2 years ago
@RNRDOLL Wampler pedals are nice too.
xXNeoShredderXx 1 year ago
I know its Jacked up!
guitarman21 2 years ago
@brucefan181 Nah, its price isn't a reflection of its versatility and tone. My '84 Ibanez SM9 Super Metal would kill this thing, and its half the price. I got it for about 170 bucks shipped. Best distortion you can imagine, it goes the FULL spectrum of tones from clean to all out shred. These old JRC chips are nothing to fuck with.
RNRDOLL 2 years ago
Place in front of the amp I have one of these with a mesa lonestar special,nice sustain with level kranked.
vjfrock 2 years ago
I have a Mesa Boogie 5:25 Express, and want to use this to add more sustain to my solos. Should I run this pedal in my effects loop or in front of the amp?
barley1027 2 years ago
overdrive pedal generally g in front of the amp, so as to effect the pre-amp not power amp
HKP1994 2 years ago
why not just buy a bk butler REAL tube overdrive? they're handwired and used by dudes like eric johnson and use a real tube for the warm excellent lead tone. if i was playing metal i'd have a maxon or ibanez for a boost to tighten up the sound but for a beautiful tone i'd go with bk butler they're SO MUCH less
brandon5pennies 2 years ago
why not just buy a bk butler REAL tube overdrive? they're handwired and used by dudes like eric johnson and use a real tube for the warm excellent lead tone. if i was playing metal i'd have a maxon or ibanez for a boost to tighten up the sound but for a beautiful tone i'd go with bk butler they're SO MUCH less
brandon5pennies 2 years ago
Sounds killer Andy! I Even for a tube screamer.
phatsound1 2 years ago 3
This is a great pedal, very particular sound....but i prefer the pro co rat
drmaloy 2 years ago
lovepedal for the win
carlosdlguerra 2 years ago
This pedal is great, but you can get a marshall bluebreaker pedal for a lot less. The bluesbreaker sounds better too.
musicman69123 2 years ago
sorry man but i have to disagree. Had the bluesbreaker pedal and it sounded like crap. It's better to save some money and buy a good pedal than just buy plenty of crappy ones.
arekceg 2 years ago 23
It might just be your opinion, and thats cool, but my experience with the bluesbreaker pedal has been great. What guitar and amp do you use?
musicman69123 2 years ago
@arekceg The current Bluesbreaker might be crap, but the firsts edition is fantastic. I've had one since it came out and it is the perfect mild overdrive.
pmioni 1 year ago
SRV in the beginning sounds really cool
keittokirjatepo 2 years ago
go tube or go home!
clayton5150 2 years ago 7
or u could get a keeley ts808....
guitarskater11 2 years ago
Good pedal! I want it!
Idominei 2 years ago
This one is for the collector. I mean who's gonna take this out to a gig w/out an armed gurad! I wouldn't take this out of the house!! What's the point. By the way, best TB I've ever heard.
azure0099 2 years ago
That's something for snobs. Totally overpriced. Who cares how it's wired and soldered? New reason for guitar snobs to create a new ideology.
Scumkill2 2 years ago
Keeley themselves compared this pedal to all other TS's including their own modded ones. They agree that it does sound warmer and smoother, but still doesn't compare to the original.
I'd rather spend money on this for the tone, brand new, then a 29 year old pedal that has been heavily used. They are about the same price.
Ozymandius666 2 years ago 2
hey it sounds like a tubescreamer!
rixills 2 years ago 28
no shit
xSGTxPEPPERx 2 years ago
sarcasm. my point was it sounds like a tubescreamer, so why bother with it when you can get a pedal that sounds just like it for less than half a price.
rixills 2 years ago 7
Pricey. $350.00 on eBay.
artgonewrong 2 years ago
To me, each TS versions make a little different sound. This pedal is great but little bit expensive.
53Fender 2 years ago 3
$350 for a Tube Screamer?! I love 'em, but damn! For that much I'd rather get an Analog Man TS-9DX/808 and pocket the $170 I saved.
mattlittlej 2 years ago 4
Many people I know have sad this, however, the same people say the TS808HW sounds better.
Ozymandius666 2 years ago
Getting a real vintage Tube Screamer is easily gonna cost over $350. And Mogami wire isn't cheap. I would buy this if I had money. They aren't gonna be around for long. Then I could sell it for more than what I paid. There is an idea.
realguitarist07 2 years ago
Wow that sounds great for AC/DC tone if that's what you may be looking for.
Generalwalrus 2 years ago
i gotta a TS9 re-issue i got for 70 bucks and then got it modded by the analog man. pretty sweet.
PopExpo 2 years ago
HW means hand wired? I thought this was High Wattage, dammit.....
DUY1337GUITAR 2 years ago
expensive as f*ck, I'd rather do it myself...
frogscar 2 years ago 6
most useless pedal ever. a regular ts808 does the same and is less expensive.
7708obmit 2 years ago
It actually is a PCB. The traces are on the bottom. The only difference is that the holes are on the sides in the form of metal lugs like on turret strips.
asfastasdark 2 years ago
point to point is kinda cool i guess
seems like it could make it unnecessarily expensive, though, when a board would've worked just as well
yearofrolling 2 years ago 3
Tube Screamer for me is the best pedal ever created and one i can't live without.
but this new one is lacking in singing tone, the original TS9 was and still is better tone wise.
;)
YearraeY 2 years ago 3
yeah, because the pedal is all that contributes to that kind of thing. insert rolling eyes here.
akrem3 2 years ago
what is the 2nd part at 2:15, it sounds familiar lol
nightslayer500 2 years ago
R.E.M - the end of the world
mynameisjonas80 2 years ago
REM
edmondo 2 years ago
just ordered this from u guys yesterday cant wait till it gets here
ndb234 2 years ago
Damn! whats the second song he plays? so familiar!
Great pedal btw! The TS is second only to maxon!
15viceandvirtues 2 years ago
You mean Back in Black?
malachasmic 2 years ago
some ac/dc..you can tell the solo is youngs work
andr4681 2 years ago
back in black-ac/dc
LastXzIII 2 years ago 2
R.E.M. Sweet.
fullmetalfunk 2 years ago
i like ProGuitarShops than guitarworld
guitarworld's demo vids sucks !
piccicacca 2 years ago 10
Its so much more transparent than the other tube screamers, lets the guitar's tone come through so good you can hear how much it costs.
Tampabryan 2 years ago
maxon are amazingly better
TheGarysmart 2 years ago
350 bucks of goodness..
victorandrada 2 years ago 3
Wow, this is an amazing product, it sounds EXACTLY like an Ibanez Tube Screamer!
bigtophalloween 2 years ago
dude, it is an ibanez tubescreamer...
sadgmusic 2 years ago 3
I think he's being sarcastic.. Saying how the price doesn't justify the product
AdamDallas 2 years ago 2
nice. hendrix
whaiyun 2 years ago
everyone seems to overlook Love Struck Baby at the beginning!
joshscus 2 years ago 4
I went ahead and shelled out the money for this thing, it was worth every damn penny. It added so much more flavor to my tone!!
Thanks Andy for the demo and making me pick one up!
Ozymandius666 2 years ago
Love Proguitarshop Demos, but a random question....
What's the song at the beginning of the really old PGS demo videos????
Semach4444 2 years ago
PGS theme song!
ProGuitarShopDemos 2 years ago
@Semach4444 It is the PGS Theme song performed by Andy & The Corksniffers :)
skurtix 1 year ago
not enoug gain for sweet cild of mine i personly think... but this would be a great boost pedal
pkerlover 2 years ago 8
i use these for a lead boost
TwistedFlames23 2 years ago
killer pedal. However, i would never spend 350 on something made from ibanez. Klon blows this away.
ashton8504 2 years ago
I came.
chrisb89364 2 years ago
The sound is not thick enough for AC/DC Solo's trust me...
lefthandedguitar 2 years ago 6
yeah, you need a distortion or maybe a fuzz for that
however this is a nice pedal
3:06 1 one of the best songs ever made!
Nice cover Andy!
BigNoseMusic 2 years ago
YEAH! ^^ :D
"Castles Made of Sand" : )
DennisDCTWG 2 years ago 6
Yea don't get me wrong I didn't mean it was a bad pedal, because I personally own this pedal. It is very nice.
lefthandedguitar 2 years ago
of course it is, all you need for ac/dc solos is a guitar and a loud amp, the distortion that angus achieves is all natural, relying on drive of a tube amp on a clean channel created by sheer volume, except for on the razor's edge album, where he had higher gain effects, experimenting with metal tone.
rupertacdc 2 years ago
It depends if your amp is cranked or not... If you put this pedal in front of a cranked JTM 45 it WILL be thick enough!
kebekoi66 2 years ago
i just use it with a high gain amp for lead boost
TwistedFlames23 2 years ago
If you want a great TS808 build it yourself. Its only 60bucks (kit) and it will only take you around 3 hours to build it. Everyone can do it. And there are loads of mods that then sounds amazing!!!
Kitarist88 2 years ago 3
sounds great, too pricy anyway, Barber pedals are that good (handwired too) and cost a lot less
javiceres 2 years ago
The inside of this thing looks amazing
rousejeremy 2 years ago
what's the song at 2:15?
tudorvaipan 2 years ago
sounds a little like John Frusciante's "I'm around" i'm sure it isnt the same song.. but it's worth to check it out!
BigNoseMusic 2 years ago
the beginning also kinda sounded like "castles made of sand" by jimi hendrix
BiscuitsJoe 2 years ago
Sounds a bit more like "Love Struck Baby" by SRV ...a great track by a Texas Legend
txguitarslinger 2 years ago
Umm... you can buy a ts9 and spend 50 more dollars (maximum if you don't even have a solder gun) and turn it into a real deal ts808 and do a true bypass mod.
There's NO point in buying this.
sesstreets 2 years ago
This thing is genius. Well worth the money. Andy Timmons told me he bought a vintage TS808 for $350 and it sucks tone. Great sound but it isn't true bypass. Mogami doesn't come cheap and having an entire pedal hand wired with it isn't cheap either. So it doesn't suck any tone. This is pure genius.
realguitarist07 2 years ago
Andy is the human jukebox! Bravo! Nice sounds!
mojo292 2 years ago
Basically SRV in a pedal, wow.
JMcG92 2 years ago
sounds killer but not worth the price. there are so many other great overdrive pedals that are half the price
mattlittler89 2 years ago
Damn that sounds awesome.... boutique price tho ... Damnit lol
MRMERCEDES101 2 years ago
SWEET CHILD O MINE WOOT!!!
great pedal but alittle expensive for me
manesh717315 2 years ago
wat the..this is soo cool!!
Gabee1019 2 years ago
so how much are this ?
victorandrada 2 years ago
Holy crap, this sounds amazing:L wish i had the money for one
gainaddict 2 years ago
awesome paedal, and agreat demo as always!!!
i just wish i could afford one.
steviemgallacher 2 years ago
It's The End of the World As We Know It, woot
OneTimer1127 2 years ago
castles made of sand=win
Logankeller352 2 years ago 4
ha. It just had to be a matter of time that Ibanez would pickup on all the TS clones and wanted to get in on the boutique action. Voilà.
DemoColorScheme 2 years ago 6
Awesome sounding pedal.
Youtube is full of shred wankers playing at a million bpm, but give me a PGS demo over that shit anytime - I could listen to Andy play all day long. Castles made of sand - NAILED!!!
malcatron 2 years ago
I finally know the song played at 2:15 - 3:00
R.E.M. Its the end of the world as we know it
Zwikster 2 years ago
this may be THE BEST pedal ever!
telecastersRthebest 2 years ago