These guys made a great song here... If you are into rock music though, you should check out Disturbed's cover of this song. It gives it a more lively, modern sound. (Not sure how to explain that any better...)
There are some more rare cover versions, like Robert Wyatts "Sea Song" (on a B-side) or Bowies "Ashes To Ashes". They also play some U2 or Radiohead songs,sometimes. And they did a great version of "All you need is love"!
And over 91 thousand views later proves that T4F didn't die. They just got better with age and they're much better after the 10 years that they spent letting the anger disappear. They are truly the greatest English band of all time.
One of the most under rated bands of the 80's. Their songs ahead of their time. People who like this but know the band should look through the bands back catolog.
im 13 and kids think im gay for listening to tears for fears and noy=t rap well you know what i say to them screw off i luv tears for fears and for all their fans we stand united...... :)
@mrbob6966 I have to say that I am very impressed with your age group for searching out music that you are interested in. It is tough with peer pressure but it's kids like you who are independent thinkers that stands out as cool and confident. I am loving it that this music and group is for all generations.
In m opinion, Disturbed made this song better. I even thought that Disturbed were the ones that made the song. I didn't even know it was a cover, until now. I am a rock fan so that's just my opinion.
@TheMarroquinTwins That's okay. A lot of people have heard the version that Disturbed did and think that it's the original. But the truth is nobody could write such powerful lyrics like Roland Orzabal could. :)
@TheMarroquinTwins Have you listened to the recorded version instead of the live one? They originally made the song when they were young, and it sounded much better then. But, they ARE more talented than Disturbed, to someone who actually knows how to play music it just seems like banging on a bunch of instruments rather than using skills you work for. But, it's 2 different styles of music, it's just that all of Disturbeds songs are alike, not the same with TFF
@JaneAndDracoAndTheo I can agree with you on that. Disturbed doesn't have half the talent that Tears For Fears Has. Not knocking Disturbed but I just think that Roland's voice is better suited to this song.
@CelesteK Well, there are songs by Disturbed I like, when I'm in the mood, which is rare, but TFF is way more talented, but they aren't amazingly talented, if it weren't for Roland's awesomely awesome amazingly amazing voice this band would be nothing. But, I love their music, his voice is incredible! But, you have to admire the people who worked for their talent rather than born with it, maybe he works to keep his voice good, but he was still born with it.
@JaneAndDracoAndTheo Have you heard the cover of Head Over Heels that Katy Perry did?
I hated that. I hated that she was wonky and all over the place. That's just another horrible cover as far as I could see. I'm not a very big Katy Perry fan and when i heard that I was like "can I please cut my ears off?"? That's how bad it was.
@CelesteK Yes, I did listen to it. It's just another style, not the style I prefer when it comes to Head Over Heals (one of my all time favorites), but when you get used to TFF Head Over Heals and fall in love with the way they do it, it's quite impossible to like someone else doing it :P /watch?v=mcbgRUQaza8 Watch that, I LOVE the way his voice sounds there! The way they played it there is much more bouncy than the original, I like it!
@wwescorpionx You know what other band did a cover of this song? One Republic and I must say that it's the only cover of this song that really appeals to me. :)
@somewhatlongdong Because at the time it was a really "fuck you" kind of song and it still is a "fuck you" kind of song.
And because kids today don't even know what it is that they're missing at all because they've only ever heard one version of this song and think that it's the song that everybody should be listening to.
@PanteraDzika ok ,ale weź pod uwagę ile mieli wtedy lat ,a ile teraz ? osobiscie bardzo lubie oryginał .ale tego live tez lubie posłuchac przynajmniej nie odstawiaja playback tylko to co z płuc wychodzi :)
I agree they are smooth and I love them.....but there is not a shred of connection between them as far as stage presence. It makes me think they don't like each other and just play the music for whatever their purpose is...BUT I STILL LOVE THEM
Send this video to the assholes of the lying + hypocritical republican "candidates" and their "tea party" muggers, so that they may learn something, that the world can do WITHOUT them !
Roland Orzabal and Curt Smith are the two musical mavericks of the older generation that have writen and performed some of the most prolific and socially consious songs in history. Surely they deserve to be inducted into the RRHOF!
Not only is this a wonderful lush version of the song, but the video is beautifully photographed. They must be using six or seven cameras simultaneously and, of course, a crane for those great elevated flying shots. Just terrific all around.
@0adireita Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know that it had to be an original comment. Is there a Youtube rule about that? If so, I've never heard of it. Also, all comments get old after a while. According to your logic, I should remove it.
Shout Shout Let it all out These are the things I can do without Come on I'm talking to you Come on In violent times You shouldn't have to sell your soul In black and white They really really ought to know Those one track minds That took you for a working boy Kiss them goodbye You shouldn't have to jump for joy You shouldn't have to jump for joy
@01tennisist Shout shout let it all out These are the things I can do without come on I'm talking to you come on They gave you life and in return you gave them hell. As cold as ice I hope we live to tell the tale I hope we live to tell the tale
Brilliant! Such a great hook and one of the best choruses ever. The song even starts with the chorus, something the Beatles used to do. You can do this when you have such a powerful chorus. It sticks in your brain the first time you hear it and never leaves.
why Gayyish? because its head over heels? After so loong and we are still listing to all this great songs that bring back lots of great memories from our younger years!! We were such a lucky generation we had such a good music!!
its ok to be gay
djm51x 20 hours ago
They still got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
0911serenat 1 day ago in playlist More videos from ogmuk
These guys made a great song here... If you are into rock music though, you should check out Disturbed's cover of this song. It gives it a more lively, modern sound. (Not sure how to explain that any better...)
Ironfist2211 1 day ago
@east215 He definitely is.
CelesteK 3 days ago
Roland is still hot!
east215 3 days ago
TITANICMAN226 They did a cover of Michael Jackson's Billie Jean. But other than that no they don't.
CelesteK 4 days ago
@CelesteK , @TITANICMAN226
There are some more rare cover versions, like Robert Wyatts "Sea Song" (on a B-side) or Bowies "Ashes To Ashes". They also play some U2 or Radiohead songs,sometimes. And they did a great version of "All you need is love"!
progmeup 3 days ago
@progmeup But those aren't lesser bands and artists than them. A lesser band or artist than them would be Katy Perry or Disturbed. :P
CelesteK 2 days ago
Great!!!!! Song!!!!!!!!!!!
shocka133 4 days ago
Wonderful 80s.... What memories that sing brings.....
pjodde 5 days ago
Melhor nao existiu nos anos 80 e
gilportugal 5 days ago
These guys are one of the best ever groups live. Bring back the 80's
Britainicas 5 days ago
The milk bottles sound fine but it would have been better with more cowbell.
Kingscup20 6 days ago
This was the number 1 song when I was born :)
Cwti21 6 days ago
do they sing someone elses songs?
TITANICMAN226 6 days ago
And over 91 thousand views later proves that T4F didn't die. They just got better with age and they're much better after the 10 years that they spent letting the anger disappear. They are truly the greatest English band of all time.
CelesteK 1 week ago
As long as songs like this exist the T4F won't ever really die. They'll just get better and better.
CelesteK 1 week ago
Facebook brought me to this song for being number one song on the day i was born!!!
JGHVAC17 1 week ago
Tasty
RedRobster 1 week ago
...the best...
WATRACOM 1 week ago
One of the most under rated bands of the 80's. Their songs ahead of their time. People who like this but know the band should look through the bands back catolog.
RawHairBeauty 1 week ago
Soul moving music by musicians who really put a lot of heart and soul into their music.
:D
trollcrusher242 1 week ago
Even though I was born in late 80's... I really like this song! 80's was the best decade!
godwinrazon 1 week ago
watch?v=ysNd4QGOgeY
TubeSalvation 1 week ago
unbelievable
Fuarzendadl 1 week ago
Could do with being remastered , but yeah . good stuff , glad too see there still going on in style :-)) happy days
WuzzyFuzzy68 1 week ago
What a great voice. Is it me or does he look like Jonathan Ross?
Creativeo88 1 week ago
I was very glad to see these clips ... as I remember from my teenage years ...
arcanjo255 1 week ago
I stopped listening to this. After head over heels
sk8er1234girl 1 week ago
@sk8er1234girl Okay. I'll bite. How come?
CelesteK 1 week ago
im 13 and kids think im gay for listening to tears for fears and noy=t rap well you know what i say to them screw off i luv tears for fears and for all their fans we stand united...... :)
mrbob6966 1 week ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Tears for Fears 15
@mrbob6966 so they say you are gay because you listen to good music ? tell them to grow up ;)
WarmerVodka 1 week ago 2
you got balls bro :D
MrJUSTTHATKID 1 day ago
@mrbob6966 I have to say that I am very impressed with your age group for searching out music that you are interested in. It is tough with peer pressure but it's kids like you who are independent thinkers that stands out as cool and confident. I am loving it that this music and group is for all generations.
sad2002 1 day ago
Memorable in mind that never failed... through the years had past. thanks guys!
eakeeboi 1 week ago in playlist Tears for Fears
This music never dies.
DMfanforever2009 1 week ago
Awesome performance!
MrJhonnyjulian 1 week ago 2
The 124 ppl that disliked this didn't live to tell the tale.
charlestonchewy 2 weeks ago
I guess the 80's did have artists ahead of their time, and not stuck in it
rcacad 2 weeks ago
:-)
sabrinaWY 2 weeks ago
:-)
sabrinaWY 2 weeks ago
super una musica muy adelantado a su epoca tuvieron para ser mucho mas pero es un icono de una de las musicas mas perfecta shout,,,,,
6670thanatos 2 weeks ago
124 people need to shout...shout...let it all out
jthecelt 2 weeks ago
I really do miss those days!!!!
thecayman1974 2 weeks ago
Awesome!
tekaellis31 2 weeks ago
TFF...orchestra....choir.....fannnnnnnntastic
mikensca1 2 weeks ago
Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!
TheSoulThiago 2 weeks ago
How cool is it to have a live orchestra backing them up? It definitely adds an element of epicness!
LibraNYC4ever 2 weeks ago
@LibraNYC4ever oh yeah, definitely!
charlestonchewy 2 weeks ago
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OrchidTigress1 2 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
FUS RO DAH!
Djakarian 2 weeks ago
i love this song;
leandssonn 3 weeks ago
@leandssonn FUCKIN YEAH!
YouTasosTube 2 weeks ago
My neighbors probably hate this!!!!
bugmandu1 3 weeks ago
KPOIJIII
bmalllory85 3 weeks ago
He talks to his car "Camaro, i'm talking to you, Camaro!" :D
housedeluxe88 3 weeks ago
@housedeluxe88 Actually it's "I'm talking to you come on!"
CelesteK 3 weeks ago
that age forgot-me, but i never do it
nimrob 3 weeks ago
best funk of 1980's ..I LIKE THIS BAND
littelgirl699 3 weeks ago
El rubio es Billy Idol?
28juancruz 3 weeks ago
@28juancruz No, el hombre de pelo gris es Curt Smith.
CelesteK 3 weeks ago
I think more popsongs need milkbottles played live....
tdalgaard 3 weeks ago 8
great music performed by 2 gifted guys, genius !!!
titidij2 3 weeks ago
ete si es un verdadero disco bueno
jorcrito 3 weeks ago
I never knew that Disturbed overed the sing I thought they made it
king7thomas 3 weeks ago
@king7thomas Nope. Tears For Fears have been singing this song quite religiously since Roland wrote it in 1985. :)
CelesteK 3 weeks ago
u suk
54barrera 3 weeks ago
In m opinion, Disturbed made this song better. I even thought that Disturbed were the ones that made the song. I didn't even know it was a cover, until now. I am a rock fan so that's just my opinion.
\m/ (//_-) \m/
TheMarroquinTwins 3 weeks ago
@TheMarroquinTwins That's okay. A lot of people have heard the version that Disturbed did and think that it's the original. But the truth is nobody could write such powerful lyrics like Roland Orzabal could. :)
CelesteK 3 weeks ago
@TheMarroquinTwins Have you listened to the recorded version instead of the live one? They originally made the song when they were young, and it sounded much better then. But, they ARE more talented than Disturbed, to someone who actually knows how to play music it just seems like banging on a bunch of instruments rather than using skills you work for. But, it's 2 different styles of music, it's just that all of Disturbeds songs are alike, not the same with TFF
JaneAndDracoAndTheo 3 weeks ago
@JaneAndDracoAndTheo I can agree with you on that. Disturbed doesn't have half the talent that Tears For Fears Has. Not knocking Disturbed but I just think that Roland's voice is better suited to this song.
CelesteK 3 weeks ago
@CelesteK Well, there are songs by Disturbed I like, when I'm in the mood, which is rare, but TFF is way more talented, but they aren't amazingly talented, if it weren't for Roland's awesomely awesome amazingly amazing voice this band would be nothing. But, I love their music, his voice is incredible! But, you have to admire the people who worked for their talent rather than born with it, maybe he works to keep his voice good, but he was still born with it.
JaneAndDracoAndTheo 3 weeks ago
@JaneAndDracoAndTheo Have you heard the cover of Head Over Heels that Katy Perry did?
I hated that. I hated that she was wonky and all over the place. That's just another horrible cover as far as I could see. I'm not a very big Katy Perry fan and when i heard that I was like "can I please cut my ears off?"? That's how bad it was.
CelesteK 3 weeks ago
@CelesteK Yes, I did listen to it. It's just another style, not the style I prefer when it comes to Head Over Heals (one of my all time favorites), but when you get used to TFF Head Over Heals and fall in love with the way they do it, it's quite impossible to like someone else doing it :P /watch?v=mcbgRUQaza8 Watch that, I LOVE the way his voice sounds there! The way they played it there is much more bouncy than the original, I like it!
JaneAndDracoAndTheo 3 weeks ago
Moja młodość, hm.... Przecierz ja jestem młody!!!
68LECH 4 weeks ago
@68LECH Tak rozumiem. Jestem młodą osobą zbyt. Może nie tak młody jak Ty, ale jestem jeszcze młody. :)
CelesteK 3 weeks ago
muito bom gostei mesmo.
claudinhus1 4 weeks ago
very nice song like it
TheBingo48 4 weeks ago
bests bands estay in past but live forever in our hearts!! let´s make it last for ever!!!
luwayar 4 weeks ago
a pesar del tiempo, excelente performance... Vivan los 80s. Saludos desde Lima Peru
Huaralcity 4 weeks ago
if only i had my mom see this.....
body4me2c 1 month ago
4:31 wow!!)
Lekcheto 1 month ago
omg.......................................
Lekcheto 1 month ago
classic!
mistersatinlover 1 month ago
grande musica !!!
zoele65 1 month ago 8
This song is just awesome. Disturbed did also a great work covering this song!
This is one of those songs u never get bored of!
wwescorpionx 1 month ago
@wwescorpionx You know what other band did a cover of this song? One Republic and I must say that it's the only cover of this song that really appeals to me. :)
CelesteK 4 weeks ago
@CelesteK nah, its too weak... the power that you get from David Draiman's voice on Shout 2000 is a lot better.
wwescorpionx 4 weeks ago
@wwescorpionx Maybe in your world it does but to me Shout2000 is BORING!
CelesteK 4 weeks ago
/watch?v=C1JSL7jBPw0
go listen this one, guys
BubSim94 1 month ago
Im sorry the 117 dislikes are from my neighbor hering me sing this!!!
1995Unis 1 month ago 41
@1995Unis
Awesome comment! Sorry your neighbor is stil not enjoying it.....
valkiriamayo 4 weeks ago
@1995Unis LOL :-)
mark197ify 1 week ago
they still got it
The7SLEVEN 1 month ago
I don't understand why this ancient song would interest anyone anymore.
somewhatlongdong 1 month ago
@somewhatlongdong Because at the time it was a really "fuck you" kind of song and it still is a "fuck you" kind of song.
And because kids today don't even know what it is that they're missing at all because they've only ever heard one version of this song and think that it's the song that everybody should be listening to.
CelesteK 1 month ago
@somewhatlongdong I didn't know there was an expiry date on notes and chords.
zendakk 1 month ago
Everytime I hear this song I think FLASH MOB!!! LOL!!!
CelesteK 1 month ago 2
awesome
dafTpunKEctriCKmx 1 month ago
80's legendary era
TheCeedor 1 month ago
theseee are the thingggs i can do withoutt, im talking to you , come on, come on
patrickmanning94 1 month ago in playlist Tears for Fears
na żywo troche tak słabo na płycie to z powerem a tutaj tego zabrakło :-(
PanteraDzika 1 month ago
@PanteraDzika Prawda, ale myślę, Tears For Fears są dużo lepsze niż wszystkie gówna to są zamaskowane jako "rozrywkę" teraz.
CelesteK 1 month ago in playlist Tears For Fears
@PanteraDzika ok ,ale weź pod uwagę ile mieli wtedy lat ,a ile teraz ? osobiscie bardzo lubie oryginał .ale tego live tez lubie posłuchac przynajmniej nie odstawiaja playback tylko to co z płuc wychodzi :)
serdecznie pozdrawiam !
zjawa30 1 month ago
I agree they are smooth and I love them.....but there is not a shred of connection between them as far as stage presence. It makes me think they don't like each other and just play the music for whatever their purpose is...BUT I STILL LOVE THEM
cmechriss 1 month ago
Skins brought me here
moeymo159 1 month ago
that xylophone player is gettin it
aslkfjklwejaw 1 month ago
@aslkfjklwejaw Curt is really getting into it too.
CelesteK 1 month ago
mano cara vc que juga cara pq ele poem os polegares pra sima é idiota vc
davi36284 1 month ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Tears for Fears
This band is incredible even
davi36284 1 month ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Tears for Fears
Send this video to the assholes of the lying + hypocritical republican "candidates" and their "tea party" muggers, so that they may learn something, that the world can do WITHOUT them !
MrSKINFLICK 1 month ago
i love the sound of waterbottles and xylo
xsellsbrod 1 month ago
Na 500 jaar hoor je deze groep noch altijd.En rond dit jaartal zijn er bangelijk veel goeden groepen
patrickfabri1 1 month ago
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Roland Orzabal and Curt Smith are the two musical mavericks of the older generation that have writen and performed some of the most prolific and socially consious songs in history. Surely they deserve to be inducted into the RRHOF!
CelesteK 1 month ago
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CelesteK 1 month ago
fuck this skins version is amazing
Royo508 1 month ago
Shout, shout let it all out...Im talking to you, thumbs up...
TheSoftRockBallads 1 month ago
i miei anni 80........
Vaicobra 1 month ago
Not only is this a wonderful lush version of the song, but the video is beautifully photographed. They must be using six or seven cameras simultaneously and, of course, a crane for those great elevated flying shots. Just terrific all around.
deckbose 1 month ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Tears for Fears
am i the only one who heard this song on psych?
lumaninja 1 month ago 2
Bring back the 80's !
wolw66 1 month ago
Great video.
andrewpowerparalegal 1 month ago
114 people shed tears while living in fear.
scotlanddays 1 month ago
the lead singer looks better now than in the 80's. I want to age like that
stucerocks 1 month ago
genial!!!
TheAle60 1 month ago
Tell me, how can somebody dislike this??
Zeldinho728 1 month ago
MAGNIFICIIIII N 1
pulzerite 1 month ago
A esperança é mais brilhante quando provém do medo.feliz natal e ano 2012 para todos
superlealdo 1 month ago
It is so awesome that it is a click away: now watching them sing when there 50 and watching the same thing when they were in their 20s.
XVitalXSignsX 1 month ago
05:14
There's that neck sweat again. :)
CelesteK 1 month ago
I like it.
junderme 1 month ago
Classic!
pifster 1 month ago
I love this song but it's not as good live.
LoganStickly22 1 month ago
Yes, I AM 12 years old. Yes, I DO like this better than today's music. No, I DON'T care what anyone says.
LoganStickly22 1 month ago 49
@LoganStickly22 I am with you man
SirBenjamenExodusJr 1 month ago
@LoganStickly22 Me too!
Mousedigits1 1 month ago
@LoganStickly22 I'm 19. Ditto. :D You're awesome, little dude.
ERoseyxP92 1 month ago
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UnDeadSpaceTroll 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
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@LoganStickly22 You 're still stupid for thinking we care about the fact that you 're 12...
UnDeadSpaceTroll 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
@LoganStickly22 stupid comment is stupid...and old...get a new one
0adireita 3 weeks ago
@0adireita Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know that it had to be an original comment. Is there a Youtube rule about that? If so, I've never heard of it. Also, all comments get old after a while. According to your logic, I should remove it.
LoganStickly22 2 weeks ago
adorooooooooooooooo,Tears for Fears-Shout,Shout muito showwwwwwwww.
Sarahabreu16 1 month ago
@Sarahabreu16 eles são simplismente excelentes.
MsCavalcante11 1 month ago
I don't know about anybody else but when I have had a bad day this song just perks me right up.
CelesteK 1 month ago
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24年前 ...
Shout ( 鬼叫 )
tears for fears
~ eileen 菁菁 ( 媽咧 , 光陰的故事 )
eileentien1 1 month ago
that bacan this song the best
GUSTAVO41954 2 months ago
01tennisist 2 months ago
@01tennisist Shout shout let it all out These are the things I can do without come on I'm talking to you come on They gave you life and in return you gave them hell. As cold as ice I hope we live to tell the tale I hope we live to tell the tale
CelesteK 1 month ago
shout by disturbed remix XD idk know which is better i guess this one
mechasaultfreak2 2 months ago
That was the real deal....much better than all the crap of today..... :))
gixxerboy555 2 months ago
this is one of my faves
pinkrosepetal01 2 months ago
Thumbs up if you expected to hear "ice ice baby" in the background at 2:34 when he sang "as cold as ice"
aseglkj 2 months ago
good
magnotaubate 2 months ago
God only has 12" singles! B-)
arty1768 2 months ago 2
Great live version.
clipsryan 2 months ago
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angelofHim90 2 months ago
If God has an IPod, he definitely must have this song in it.
Villesanti 2 months ago 25
@Villesanti no he has shout 2000 on it
lpsided 1 month ago
I FOUND A NEW USE FER MAH BOURBON BOTTLES YEEEEEEY !!!! : D
MrDeicide1 2 months ago
SH0:00UT!
kp3321 2 months ago
Love it!
TheElronda 2 months ago
the best song from TFF... EVEEEEEER!!!!
kaneda171 2 months ago
dont give us this respect for thefamily shit SHOUT! where is he WHERE IS HE
egurzi 2 months ago
Great sound... one of their better live versions
RamsesReturns 2 months ago
Great sound... one of their better live versions.
RamsesReturns 2 months ago
@RamsesReturns 100% Agree with you
pablomartinr 1 month ago
Amazing! Where was that?
Flavio9021 2 months ago
@Flavio9021 In Antwerp Belgium. Please check the description.
CelesteK 2 months ago in playlist Tears For Fears
però si vede che cantano insieme non per effettiva volontà...peccato, insieme sono il massimo!
chiccoejunior 2 months ago
Thank you for giving Disturbed fans Shout 2000 nice to see where it came from :)
NRoRoful 2 months ago
wooow <3 I love this live version
Miyalein 2 months ago
Orzabal n` Smith...one of the greatest dynamic duos of all time
MenOppose214 2 months ago 2
Brilliant! Such a great hook and one of the best choruses ever. The song even starts with the chorus, something the Beatles used to do. You can do this when you have such a powerful chorus. It sticks in your brain the first time you hear it and never leaves.
nowimaginethat 2 months ago
why Gayyish? because its head over heels? After so loong and we are still listing to all this great songs that bring back lots of great memories from our younger years!! We were such a lucky generation we had such a good music!!
GayossoHerrera 2 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Tears for Fears 2
EU QUERO VOLTAR PRO PASSADO!!! *.* SÓ TEM MERDA TOCANDO HOJE.
audioslayer5 2 months ago 3
@audioslayer5 Concordo
ThiagoDaviCreep 2 months ago
I wish I was there
KCHughez 2 months ago
@KCHughez Everyone does.
bcakapinky 2 months ago
This band is soooo smooth. I agree, better than the crap playing today.
SUPERSTREETMUSTANG 2 months ago 37
@SUPERSTREETMUSTANG
amazing song!!!
Evan22124 2 months ago
@SUPERSTREETMUSTANG hehehehehehe u got that rite dude!!!!!!!!!!!
1969grau 2 months ago
@SUPERSTREETMUSTANG I agree and im only 13
Ps3GaMeRrz 2 months ago