These labs don't understand any other language than violence and they bring it on themselves for being un -reasonable!!! Let them reap what they sow!!!
@MyLadyAlexis0958 If you want to say that, then it is your privilege. If you have any principles, then you should eschew all medicine for the rest of your life, and all medical technology. You may not have vaccines, antibiotics, surgery of any type, and if you are diabetic, tough shit. You die.
And you have to stop buying food from farms, because farms kill animals that eat their crops.
Otherwise you are nothing but a hypocrite and a moron. Truth hurts.
It's funny how they show happy mice. Why don't they show the real stuff. Like the monkey who had its head strapped into a paint can mixer until it had severe brain damage. our the bagel dogs forced to inhale aerosol cleaner until their dead and dissected. Fuck HLS and all the other Mother Fuckers who are involved in this shit. Keep up the good work activist
god, these fuckers should be found and punished. I'd be dead if it wasn't for animal research. animal cruelty is wrong but only when it is actually really bad, a bit of advise from me is that if you are an extremest in any way at all, even agianst afl's cause or a completely different cause you are wrong. the world doesn't allow for absolutes there is always a middle ground that must be found. All extremists very wrong, while the rest of us are only somewhat wrong
It always amazes me that when animal liberators do something like this people say, "Whoa, that's going too far." Perhaps they do occasionally go too far. Doesn't it occur to people that the industries exploiting animals are going too far every second of every day? If I have to pick which I'm going to be offended about, the hurt feelings of a dead person's family vs. the torture and agony of those being tested on, I think my sympathies are going to go to the latter.
Hmm, one point: Trull mentions at the end that people are choosing not to enter in biomedical research fields because of the risk from animal liberators.
That's not the whole story. Increasingly, young people are getting that what's being done to animals is wrong. They're not entering those career fields because they don't want any part in the cruelty that they'd have to personally inflict.
Let's say it was YOU in the laboratory or the factory farm, and let's say it was perfectly legal that you be there. The human rights movement is working on changing that, working on getting you free. But progress has been slow. The Human Liberation Front is willing to do more: they're willing to break the law to get you out NOW. If they do nothing, you might get out in another 50 years, or more. You might be dead by the time the laws change. Do you want someone to break the law to get you out?
hehehehehehehehehehehe goo animal actvistttss! revenge!!!! i dont care about that guy or his stupid home or his dead fucking mother. i dont give a crap. im so proudd of animal activists :]
Soulisscool i read that article on the monkey test, It really shows how pathetic, outdated and inaccurate animal testing is.
they tested on 500 monkeys and deemed it safe for humans then when passed drug to humans they all dropped like flies. How this article is moaning about some burnt ashes is beyond me, they should be focusing on the animals that are being killed every day for pointless experiments.
VIVISECTION IS A TRICK THEY MAKE MONEY AND WE GET SICK
You're right, it does show how outdated, inaccurate, & dangerous it is Glendale. Those trials were dreadful & the long term effects are still unknown. It's disgustingly cruel for animals & dangerous to humans. The sooner it is banned the better. The serious side effects from prescription drugs should concern us all but I think that the problem is that people are told to believe that animal testing is helping them. I so wish they would check out the facts for themselves like you did.
I was reading about Novartis again the other day - & about more problems from prescription drugs put on the market-so whats new? You get sick of reading about all the serious side effects from animal tested drugs & the harm they cause yet they don't stop the fraudulent animal 'research', they're far too busy raking the money in.
Testing on animals isn't research!
We want safer medicines from species specific methods - its a no brainer. Time for vivisection to END FOREVER!!
If it was so "humane", they wouldn't need animals who don't react the same way we do to various stimuli. If it was so "humane" they could just use volunteer humans. I've never seen a mouse or a guinea pig put up their hand and say "oh yes, test on me! please please please!"
Your dont seem to understand that when new drugs are developed, its first tested on animals to observe if its lethal, usual on primates, like monkeys. Then the drugs are then move on to human subjects, like ad I have seen in newspapers, testing new drugs, get paid a sum of cash. Only than if its safe, its marketed.
If we remove the animal aspect, how can we be sure if the drug is not dangerous? If it kills the animal, should I be trying it?
Of course I understand, they're called clinical trials.Can't you tell I know about it from my other post?
"Only when it's safe its marketed"? If that were true we wouldn't have all the side effects or fatalities would we? but we do-all the time, so that is not true.The animal aspect has repeatedly shown that it DOES NOT guarantee safety. Even the industry says that accuracy is between 5 - 25%. Don't you think that species specific testing will be more relevant, reliable and can be trusted more.
The TGN1412 trials alone showed that animals testing is dangerous to humans! The 6 volunteers immune systems shut down shortly after being given the medication that had 'passed as safe' on animals. Monkeys were given 500 times the dose & they did not predict the human responses.
It seems it is you that doesnt seem to understand. Many prescription drugs that have 'passed as safe' after animal tests have harmed humans! What is harmful to animals is not necessarily harmful to us and vice versa.
Im not a major in biomedical engineering, so I cant comment much about the failure of TGN1412.
looks like TGN1412 was a case of unpredicted reaction in humans, seems like they didn't do enough testing before administrating the drug to humans.
If animal testing was removed, we be using the drug to test on people automatically. That can be even more dangerous, since we have no idea what the drug can do.
Like, if I tested a drug on monkey and it died, there is no way im using it on a person.
The point is,testing on animals, in spite of massive doses given to these monkeys, failed to predict terrible, life threatening human reactions.That is just one example of regularly reported cases of animal testing failures worldwide.
There are relevant non animal methods of testing already available. Animals are biologically, physiologically and antanomically different to humans.
Strychine is deadly to us but harmless to some animals, so that would pass as safe but it isn't. It's unreliable.
Young researchers are choosing other careers outside of animal research because "Who needs this." Indeed, who needs animal research? Only the brain-dead or the crooked, sadistic & greedy.
Sadistic scum who abuse, torture and burn live animals and then hide this under the name of "research" deserve whats coming for them! Full speed ahead! Support 100%!
HLS...Shut them down
HLS...Shut them down
Your Job...Your Fault
Your Job...Your Fault
Free The Animal ALF!!!
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TheAnonymousAdvocate 6 months ago
These labs don't understand any other language than violence and they bring it on themselves for being un -reasonable!!! Let them reap what they sow!!!
MyLadyAlexis0958 8 months ago
@MyLadyAlexis0958 If you want to say that, then it is your privilege. If you have any principles, then you should eschew all medicine for the rest of your life, and all medical technology. You may not have vaccines, antibiotics, surgery of any type, and if you are diabetic, tough shit. You die.
And you have to stop buying food from farms, because farms kill animals that eat their crops.
Otherwise you are nothing but a hypocrite and a moron. Truth hurts.
USSBN734 3 months ago
It's funny how they show happy mice. Why don't they show the real stuff. Like the monkey who had its head strapped into a paint can mixer until it had severe brain damage. our the bagel dogs forced to inhale aerosol cleaner until their dead and dissected. Fuck HLS and all the other Mother Fuckers who are involved in this shit. Keep up the good work activist
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HR5337SPORTSHUNTING 1 year ago
god, these fuckers should be found and punished. I'd be dead if it wasn't for animal research. animal cruelty is wrong but only when it is actually really bad, a bit of advise from me is that if you are an extremest in any way at all, even agianst afl's cause or a completely different cause you are wrong. the world doesn't allow for absolutes there is always a middle ground that must be found. All extremists very wrong, while the rest of us are only somewhat wrong
FecalFiasco 1 year ago
FUCK YOU NOVARTIS AND ALL THE COMPANIES THAT DO ANIMAL TESTING....WE'RE NOT THE OWNER OF THIS WORLD...HUMAN BEINGS SUCKS!
junegrey 1 year ago
awseome stop the fukers go animal liberation front :)
tamiyaboy100 1 year ago
FUCK NOVARTIS... I HOPE THAT EVERY SINGLE RESEARCHER ON THE WORLD THAT TORTURE ANIMALS DIE TERRIBLY AND VERY SOON.....
junegrey 1 year ago
It always amazes me that when animal liberators do something like this people say, "Whoa, that's going too far." Perhaps they do occasionally go too far. Doesn't it occur to people that the industries exploiting animals are going too far every second of every day? If I have to pick which I'm going to be offended about, the hurt feelings of a dead person's family vs. the torture and agony of those being tested on, I think my sympathies are going to go to the latter.
kimberlily1983 1 year ago
Hmm, one point: Trull mentions at the end that people are choosing not to enter in biomedical research fields because of the risk from animal liberators.
That's not the whole story. Increasingly, young people are getting that what's being done to animals is wrong. They're not entering those career fields because they don't want any part in the cruelty that they'd have to personally inflict.
kimberlily1983 1 year ago
Let's say it was YOU in the laboratory or the factory farm, and let's say it was perfectly legal that you be there. The human rights movement is working on changing that, working on getting you free. But progress has been slow. The Human Liberation Front is willing to do more: they're willing to break the law to get you out NOW. If they do nothing, you might get out in another 50 years, or more. You might be dead by the time the laws change. Do you want someone to break the law to get you out?
kimberlily1983 1 year ago
hehehehehehehehehehehe goo animal actvistttss! revenge!!!! i dont care about that guy or his stupid home or his dead fucking mother. i dont give a crap. im so proudd of animal activists :]
iliketosnuggle123 1 year ago
Anybody torturing animals in labs is a vile form of human being . The things they put these animals through is horrific.
JUMPTHEGUNZZX 2 years ago 5
lmfao!
"Activists Threaten to Flush Mom's Ashes Down Toilet."
CDLver 2 years ago 2
@CDLver I'm laughing so hard..... fruckin ashes! Rofflmao...all the crap going on in this world.... MOMS ASHES LMAO SHUT UP I can't take it!
siobhansdaughter 1 year ago
Soulisscool i read that article on the monkey test, It really shows how pathetic, outdated and inaccurate animal testing is.
they tested on 500 monkeys and deemed it safe for humans then when passed drug to humans they all dropped like flies. How this article is moaning about some burnt ashes is beyond me, they should be focusing on the animals that are being killed every day for pointless experiments.
VIVISECTION IS A TRICK THEY MAKE MONEY AND WE GET SICK
Glendale1835 2 years ago 2
You're right, it does show how outdated, inaccurate, & dangerous it is Glendale. Those trials were dreadful & the long term effects are still unknown. It's disgustingly cruel for animals & dangerous to humans. The sooner it is banned the better. The serious side effects from prescription drugs should concern us all but I think that the problem is that people are told to believe that animal testing is helping them. I so wish they would check out the facts for themselves like you did.
Soulisscool 2 years ago
lol
glittergirl1998 2 years ago
I was reading about Novartis again the other day - & about more problems from prescription drugs put on the market-so whats new? You get sick of reading about all the serious side effects from animal tested drugs & the harm they cause yet they don't stop the fraudulent animal 'research', they're far too busy raking the money in.
Testing on animals isn't research!
We want safer medicines from species specific methods - its a no brainer. Time for vivisection to END FOREVER!!
Soulisscool 2 years ago
They say Animal rights activists are going to far?
no.. Novartis are going to far , HLS is going to far
I'm not suprised that Dr. Vasella wasnt available to comment cos he's that scared and he knows he's wrong
beka123beka 2 years ago
If it was so "humane", they wouldn't need animals who don't react the same way we do to various stimuli. If it was so "humane" they could just use volunteer humans. I've never seen a mouse or a guinea pig put up their hand and say "oh yes, test on me! please please please!"
delsolarie 2 years ago 2
I see, here are some right people !
VEGAN POWER !!!
SwapMeetForJustice 2 years ago
So what if one day you got monkey pox, whats gonna cure you?
You really gonna let an animal live over your self?
95ellington 2 years ago
do a little research - animal tested drugs are harmful to humans!
Soulisscool 2 years ago 2
Your dont seem to understand that when new drugs are developed, its first tested on animals to observe if its lethal, usual on primates, like monkeys. Then the drugs are then move on to human subjects, like ad I have seen in newspapers, testing new drugs, get paid a sum of cash. Only than if its safe, its marketed.
If we remove the animal aspect, how can we be sure if the drug is not dangerous? If it kills the animal, should I be trying it?
(second year in chemical engineering at U of T)
95ellington 2 years ago
Of course I understand, they're called clinical trials.Can't you tell I know about it from my other post?
"Only when it's safe its marketed"? If that were true we wouldn't have all the side effects or fatalities would we? but we do-all the time, so that is not true.The animal aspect has repeatedly shown that it DOES NOT guarantee safety. Even the industry says that accuracy is between 5 - 25%. Don't you think that species specific testing will be more relevant, reliable and can be trusted more.
Soulisscool 2 years ago
The TGN1412 trials alone showed that animals testing is dangerous to humans! The 6 volunteers immune systems shut down shortly after being given the medication that had 'passed as safe' on animals. Monkeys were given 500 times the dose & they did not predict the human responses.
It seems it is you that doesnt seem to understand. Many prescription drugs that have 'passed as safe' after animal tests have harmed humans! What is harmful to animals is not necessarily harmful to us and vice versa.
Soulisscool 2 years ago
Im not a major in biomedical engineering, so I cant comment much about the failure of TGN1412.
looks like TGN1412 was a case of unpredicted reaction in humans, seems like they didn't do enough testing before administrating the drug to humans.
If animal testing was removed, we be using the drug to test on people automatically. That can be even more dangerous, since we have no idea what the drug can do.
Like, if I tested a drug on monkey and it died, there is no way im using it on a person.
95ellington 2 years ago
The point is,testing on animals, in spite of massive doses given to these monkeys, failed to predict terrible, life threatening human reactions.That is just one example of regularly reported cases of animal testing failures worldwide.
There are relevant non animal methods of testing already available. Animals are biologically, physiologically and antanomically different to humans.
Strychine is deadly to us but harmless to some animals, so that would pass as safe but it isn't. It's unreliable.
Soulisscool 2 years ago
i love it how he sais the web adress at the end really fast.
cock.
HLS, we'll close you down, whatever it takes.
pooupyournose 2 years ago 3
Frankie Trull, whore, was right:
Young researchers are choosing other careers outside of animal research because "Who needs this." Indeed, who needs animal research? Only the brain-dead or the crooked, sadistic & greedy.
1221solstice2012 2 years ago 3
Sadistic scum who abuse, torture and burn live animals and then hide this under the name of "research" deserve whats coming for them! Full speed ahead! Support 100%!
studywar 2 years ago 3
"Humane and responsible animal research???"
How about trying that "humane and responsible" research on themselves? Right, they won't because it's freaking torture!!!!!!
People are so stupid! How can they say that?!??!! Ugh!
porolita22 2 years ago 15
Yes burn all their houses but try make sure their in next time! FREEDOM FOR ANIMALS, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK ACTIVISTS WE LOVE U.
treebo100 2 years ago 4
Haha!
Love it
Smash HLS!
*Until All Are Free!*
beka123beka 2 years ago 11