@elsewho There are several modes of self-destruct from what I know. One is to simply deactivate magnetic containment on the warp core which results in a catastrophic matter-antimatter reaction -- they plan to use this type in Star Trek: The Motion Picture against V'Ger. The other type is to cause all of the EPS relays on the ship to overload at once, which is what you see here, and yes, that is basically all of the "systems" on board the ship exploding at once.
Seemingly, such oblivious Klingons. Stupidest humanoids, these ones in particular? Maybe they didn't have quite enough of a grasp nor sense of Arabic numerals, nor of general Federation tactics, resolve, spirit, perhaps even motives... etc...
@deuce01983 True, the Enterprise had already taken a beating from Khan in Star Trek II. And it was the only way that Kirk could get rid of the Klingon Aggressor force that boarded the Enterprise. And true, it was an EPIC explosion to see the Enterprise self-destruct like that.
As a more practical point, if the Enterprise were anything like a modern naval warship, it would have records of classified transmissions, technical manuals, intelligence reports, etc. Stuff the Klingons would have loved to get their hands on.
Scuttling the ship was unfortunately the best option, denying the Klingons from gleaning anything that could be used against the Federation.
Why is it whenever a Star Trek series nearly ends some of the best characters are killed off? Enterprise here, Spock last movie, Chris Tucker in ST: Enterprise, and others. WHY!
I still can't believe they did that... Remembering seeing that as a kid... I was not happy for quite some time. Yeah it's a movie but god i loved that version of the ship. then again i was only 10 at the time...
I can imagine if I was around when this first came out in theaters, I would be traumatized by this event. Just the graphic destruction of a vessel we've all grown to love. :(
@rob062388 I remember that day. We didn't have internet in those days so this was a total surprise unless you were lucky enough to attend one of the Trek conventions in the larger cities. After seeing this movie, we would go home and stare at the wall thinking about what we just saw. No one to talk to or anything. Most of my family were not Trek fans. Now as I look at this scene it reminds me of the day the Columbia burned up on re-entry. It was so beauty yet so tragic.
There are two modes of self-destruct: The first is Destruct-Zero to be used when near a planetary body you don't want to destroy where smaller matter-antimatter charges are used to destroy the computer and superstructure, but ejecting the antimatter pods. The second and much nastier option Destruct-One is a forced overload of the main warp core which would have taken the Bird of Prey and Genesis Planet out. This is from the "Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise".
WOW at 0.23 the big e looks at her best just to spiral down showing the inevitable her last stand and man did she go out with a bang! I love this ship and the re imagined 09 beast an elegant phoenix (YES THE SO CALLED J.J PRISE!) The Enterprise NCC 1701
Seems like a pretty crappy auto-destruct system, if you ask me. The front half of the saucer blows up... leaving the secondary hull and drive systems intact?
@HawkGTboy I don't know... you see those electric discharges and explosions all along the hull? I'd be surprised if anything was "intact" after that, especially on the inside... but yeah, I get your point, it's no complete destruction.
@HawkGTboy Her Warp Core, I believe, was explicitly disabled, likewise the Fusion Impulse engines likely were as well. Those are the primary method of detonation onboard most federation starships, since they don't leave ANYTHING left.
How come there are explosives planted in the saucer section? Why not just blow up the warp core? Here the warp core in the engineering section and the nacelles are left basically intact, wouldn't those technologies be important to protect with the self-destruct system? Only thing that comes to mind is that the anti-matter/matter reaction would probably blow up the nearby celestial bodies too, considering the jiggawatts (yes, that's the same actor) of energy needed for a warp drive.
@romeonarcizo Kirk had to destroy Enterprise to keep it from being captured by enemy forces. They were un-crewed, and the automation system was crashed by the weapons exchange. Essentially, Enterprise was a hulk in space because of lack of manpower (that's what the crew is for). Kirk orders "...Destruct Zero..." - a sequence used near celestial bodies. Antimatter bottles are ejected, Ship's computer dumps all data, and charges destroy the superstructure to make the hull useless...
This has probably already been touched on,(i'm not scrollin' waaay back) but after all the references thru the history of the series BEFORE this detonation to how the ship would go up like an exploding star 'cause of the matter-antimatter materials used in detonation,then to have the kind of explosion that it had,( although granted,the explosion was still very powerful & did the intended job) made trek fans back in the day say "what!!?the shockwave should've probably rocked the planet!! lol lol
Well, as I posted before reading your question, the self-destruct sequence blew up the _saucer section_, not the engingeering section that houses the warp core. There are no shockwaves in space though, just as in space, no one can hear you scream. You need a gas or a solid to conduct shockwaves. But the blast would have sent the pieces of the Enterprise hurtling at near-lightspeed, each having enough energy to vaporize a city.
God I hate this scene. I cried and cried like a baby in the theatre when I first saw this. Spoke dead....and now..the destruction of the Enterprise. :(
come on, even if this is the future, and all this stuff could really "happen"...there is no way to explain how fire can exist in a place with no oxygen i.e: space therefore
why is there fire outside the ship as it exploded???
@deuce01983 true but then you don't get the epic explosion and plus the enterprise was already severly damaged in the attack with the Relient in star trek 2, so as much as i dislike saying it even if they did use some gases or just take life support offline on those decks, I don't believe the enterprise could have survived the battle with the bird of prey
@Darkphoenix588 Oh come on! =) With a name like Enterprise? Enterprise always wins! But yeah you're right that the explosion is truly epic over deadly gas.
Well, in general even a damaged constitution class ship was more than a match against a bird of brey. More logical would be the fact, that the enterprise was already beeing decomissioned and laked a lot of the basic features.
Actually the Enterprise was disabled because Mr Scott's automation program overloaded, due to the fact it wasn't programmed for combat, just basic ship operations, which resulted in the shields failing to respond.
If the ship had a full crew running it instead of fully automated systems, it would've easily defeated the bird of prey.
Enterprise couldn't move, thanks to the automations failing. Without at least a skelton crew it needed the automation system to do any complex operations. Thus they needed the Bird of Prey to escape.
i know. I meant while the bird of prey was shot with the 2 torpedoes and was temporarily disabled. They could've followed up with some more shots or just rammed the bird of prey. but kirk and his crew got old and really slow otherwise they would've done that.
Well if they wanted to destroy the Bird of Prey they could have just fired more. Since they didn't, and tried to raise the shields instead obviously they wanted a surrender instead (since if Enterprise had been working properly the BOP wouldn't have stood a chance) possibly to grill them for info about what had happened.
Remember the plan was to get Spock and get him to Vulcan. Not kill a bunch of Klingon's.
@Darkphoenix588 True, and I know your comment is over a year old but I just feel like destroying the Enterprise like this didn't really work. It'd be great to see the ship prove the Admiral from earlier wrong, prove that the Enterprise still has life in her. But unfortunately, he was proven right, the Enterprise was old and the only way for it to be useful, was for it to be destroyed.
@deuce01983 Yeah, I wonder why Starfleet didn't do that... maybe that they felt there could be surviving crewmembers who might be killed by it, or some species can adapt to it that it would be useless, or it is in Starfleet ethnics not use gases.
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Star Trek died with this ship. Now it's all treaty here and saving people there. I think Kirk should have gone down with his ship insead of dieing on a ship that he's been on once and has no care in the world for. Thumb me up if you agree.
@booomfilms Did you... seriously watch any of the other movies in this part of the series? Honestly? He gets a ship that's ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE THIS ONE. It's a little better, but not by much. It's even the same class, with the same exterior design. Besides, the early episodes WERE about treaty here, saving people there. But half of DS9 and Enterprise are in a WAR. You are seriously misinformed mah friend.
@vettesex I really cried when i saw it... I was just a kid back then, but i cried and replayed that scene over and over, wishing that it won't happen when i look at it again.
hmm i watched this before and it was all screwed up too... but now its fine? maybe cuz i have google chrome now cuz before i was using firefox. idk thats all i can think of. unless it just works now. or im just lucky tonight haha
This never made sense. The only way to self destruct is to overload the core. That will obliterate the entire ship. Why pack explosives in the saucer section so that most of it survives for an enemy to dissect?
@transdrole i say battledamege from the wrath of khan took out most the systems needed for a core explosion lol or the film makers wanted dramatic effect blowing her up bit by bit ;.........
@transdrole The ship was damaged and partially working, some parts of the self-destruct systems could probably have been disabled. Even if it didn't get completely destroyed, the damage from the blast would have been enough to prevent any full salvage, plus the ship itself couldn't compensate for Genesis's gravity well and fell into the planet.
@transdrole From what I've read in some Star Trek tech manuals which show Starfleet ships. Federation vessels have 2 self destruct programs. Primary is a warp core overload. It the primary self destruct can't be used for what ever reason ships are built with explosive charges in them that are supposed to rip the ship apart when the self destruct is armed.
Lets face it, i mean it was a sense of closure. Because no doubt they had planned to bring in the other "Fresh" Enterprise for the next feature film i.e the 1701-A. After all in this film, Starfleet was going to decommision the Enterrprise, because she was 20 years old and that they felt her day was over. Have to admit when i first saw the film, i couldn't believe what i was seeing.
Scotty is supposed to be a "Miracle Worker" He could have said "Captain, I can get a wee-bit of power for the phasers!" instead of "I got no control over anything!"
Never made sense that they gave the crew the same outdated Constitution class design storywise. Obviously it save the expense of a new model. I would have liked to have seen another Federation ship design apart from the Reliant and the Excelsior.
@dafmurray , According to the narrative, the Enterprise was being used as a trainer on Kirk's request. Admiral Morrow had declined Scott's request for materiel to refit Enterprise - but could have been stuck dismantling her. She was running with a skeleton crew, and with most systems automated. They thought it was going to be a milkrun.
I saw this at the Movioes on Opening day. My hands grabbed the arms of the theater chair. My heart was racing. My thoughts were racing and I thought, " I't Can't Be...."
: ) When I lft the theater I had no idea how this would be remedied.I didn't like the Excelsior.
Enterprise was 40 years old when it was destoryed (2245-2285 years in service), The ship faced Klignons, Romulans, that doomsday device, Khan twice, the space ameoba, galactic barrier, Kelvans, First Federation, Gorn, Organians, V'Ger, Talosians, tons of others.
It was appropriate thing which Mc Coy said after Kirk had asked ...What have I done???...Mc Coy:What you done..what you have always done: Turn death around and gave it a fighting chance to live!!!
Big Mistake Destroying the Legendary Enterprise. Destroying that Ship was like Burning down the Ponderosa Ranch and Dodge City. When that ship was Blown Up it was the First Event that signaled the end of Old Trek.
To be even more of a Legend,The Enterprise's Burned out Main Frame and Partial Hull and Engines, should have been discovered by a Science / Surbey Team while Drifting in space at the edge of the Genesis/ Mutara system. It would have brought a tear to anyone's eye to see her Rescued.
I saw Star Trek 3 on opening day, June 1st 1984 at 3;05 pm at the Multiplex near me. I made it a tradition to always see a trek film o nOpening day always. I only broke that on Trek 2,8 and the last one. For some reason the Better films I end up not seeing on opening.i have even braved a Torrential Rainstorm for Trek 5. I took to Girlfriend from hell( found out afterwards she was after money only ) I saw the NCC-1701 Blow up on day one. I thought to myslf ," NO ! " I was gripping the seat
i agree with ya man but the role play site that i am at think's there is no possibility but im with spock's famous words there are always possibilitys
You reminded me of something.....somewhere I did come across a book, comic, or fan video where the Next Generation crew (or someone else?) did "stumble" upon the burnt-out hull of Enterprise NCC-1701, with half the saucer gone and extreme damage...and they towed (tractor beamed) her back to Space Dock.
Very interesting idea if it had ever been done on DS-9, Voyager, Enterprise, or NextGen - certainly would have stirred up people's emotions.
It's one thing to say "it was just a ship, a thing", but to anyone who has ever served on a ship for a long period of time (and particularly when circumstances have made that ship literally home, or vital to your survival), has that feeling that it is more than a vessel. You ascribe a persona to it. In some ways, some people are the same way about their cards. You figure, these guys spent some 10-15 years on board the Enterprise, she became far more than just a construct. (Especially to Scotty!)
Logic and commen sense arent far behind... I had to ask cause I was thinking... is this guy/girl into pokemon cards or something... maybe he's into solitare.
Trek lore indicates that Kirk's final command, "...destruct zero," sets the ship to eject it's warp core and detonate specially-placed charges amind the superstructure, whiel a final code of, "...destruct one," would drop the magnetic containment fields for the antimatter resulting in a planned 'core breach.' Given he was so close to planet and that he envisioned needing the KIingon Bird of Prey, he opted for the non-core breach destruct. This is Trek lore only, not canon.
Maybe to you the Enterprise is the "sole embodiment" of Star Trek, but I think Kirk, Spock, McCoy and other ships and charecters and things are just as crusial a part of Star Trek as the Enterprise. The Enterprise is without a doubt a very important part of ST but it is by no means the whole and all of Star Trek. Even at the end of ST III it says "And the human adventure continues..." or something to that affect indicating that the story is far from over.
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I laugh at that part all the time because the Enterprise was just another piece of material. And tough guys like that is gonna cry over a (in the words of bones) "godammn" ship. It's only a goddamn ship. If I was one of those guys, that's wht I would've said. LMGDFAO!!!!!
there crying for the same reasons that people cry when there home goes down in flames, yes a home can be replaced as a ship can be replaced but it's not the same, its not just another house it's YOUR house, it's not just any ship... its THERE ship. the ship that always got them home and kept them safe no matter what hell they put her through.
That was so well done, I loved what Ken Ralston and his team did to make it explode in sections, not all at once. Big credit to James Horner's music at the end too.
That was back when destroying a starship meant something, it had some emotional impact. These days it's always a parallel universe, alternate timeline, time travel, a dream, etc.
no i ment at star trek future begins the 2009 version ring a bell??? in the movie neroes henchman will say "pardon nero 7 federation ships are on their way" one was late and got saved from nero because the helm forgot to disengage the initial external adapaner when they warped 2 vulcan they found d debri of the enterprises.
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this is nothing compared to star trek 2009 7 federation ships all destroyed the1st one was the uss kelvin the 2nd one was the 6 enterprises that warped to vulcan and attacked by nero.
What the F are you talking about? 6 Enterprises warped to Vulcan? There is only 1 Enterprise, it arrived at Vulcan after the destruction of the U.S.S. Hood, the U.S.S. Faragut and a few others.
i remember the utter disbelief i felt when i first saw this scene back in the good ol days. she may have been a rust bucket but she was 1701 no bloody a,b,c or d.
Herb Morrison is down on Genesis, and he goes into his hysterical documentation of the disaster. "This is the worst of the worst catastrophes in the world! Oh, the humanity!" LOL!
It's cool how they destroyed it too. Instead of just seeing an explosion you get to see the burned hulk being flung through space after the saucer has burned and, subsequently, exploded. Always an awesome scene!
And agreed on the emotional impact. I was 18 and had somehow managed to NOT be spoiled (I think I missed the trailers on TV.) I went in and was STUNNED when this happened. I know that Kirk had little choice, and better THIS ending helping to save the lives of her crew than being ignominiously scrapped by Starfleet, but still... Even NOW it's painful to watch!
One thing I think some of you are missing. You keep wondering why the self-destruct didn't destroy the whole ship and left part of it to burn up in the atmosphere. Note - the self destruct sequence may have been CONTINUING as it fell through the atmosphere, but the smaller explosions rippling back down the secondary hull and nacelles wouldn't be visible through the larger ball of fire. I think if this had been in open space you would see that. But the descent into the atmosphere obscured it.
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The flux compassitor was unstable.
trekker8342 2 days ago
this part always makes me sick,
ThePixelChaos 2 months ago
So let me get this right, when they were building the enterprise they put explosives behind every wall and panel.
elsewho 2 months ago
@elsewho There are several modes of self-destruct from what I know. One is to simply deactivate magnetic containment on the warp core which results in a catastrophic matter-antimatter reaction -- they plan to use this type in Star Trek: The Motion Picture against V'Ger. The other type is to cause all of the EPS relays on the ship to overload at once, which is what you see here, and yes, that is basically all of the "systems" on board the ship exploding at once.
TheAle89515 1 month ago
Marty! Get Ouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut!
fjccommish 2 months ago
If my calculations are correct, once this baby reaches zero, you're gonna see some serious hit.
hammerman6842 3 months ago
Seemingly, such oblivious Klingons. Stupidest humanoids, these ones in particular? Maybe they didn't have quite enough of a grasp nor sense of Arabic numerals, nor of general Federation tactics, resolve, spirit, perhaps even motives... etc...
Anyways, really a classic and epic scene.
GmanGregilla 3 months ago
@GmanGregilla The Kazon-Nistrom was even worse.
thefinalfrontier1701 3 months ago
@deuce01983 True, the Enterprise had already taken a beating from Khan in Star Trek II. And it was the only way that Kirk could get rid of the Klingon Aggressor force that boarded the Enterprise. And true, it was an EPIC explosion to see the Enterprise self-destruct like that.
TheKansasCowboy 5 months ago
@TheKansasCowboy
As a more practical point, if the Enterprise were anything like a modern naval warship, it would have records of classified transmissions, technical manuals, intelligence reports, etc. Stuff the Klingons would have loved to get their hands on.
Scuttling the ship was unfortunately the best option, denying the Klingons from gleaning anything that could be used against the Federation.
warzer0 3 months ago
You bastard!
viagraguttene 6 months ago
Haha and I was about to ask which one was Christopher Lloyd...
DMenase24 6 months ago
Oh My God! You killed the Enterprise!
RadarKat73080 7 months ago
@RadarKat73080 YOU BASTARDS!!
:P
omega311888 6 months ago
Why is it whenever a Star Trek series nearly ends some of the best characters are killed off? Enterprise here, Spock last movie, Chris Tucker in ST: Enterprise, and others. WHY!
Wunderwaffen1946 7 months ago
0:34 is what happens when Kirk goes up against Picard!
MrImastinker 7 months ago
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MrImastinker 7 months ago
I still can't believe they did that... Remembering seeing that as a kid... I was not happy for quite some time. Yeah it's a movie but god i loved that version of the ship. then again i was only 10 at the time...
piratestation69 7 months ago
"Seeing that really makes me misty eyed."
MrWINNSLAW 8 months ago
@fatlardass2000 =P
Johny40Se7en 8 months ago
You can tell this was from the 80's
Exhibit A - 0:03 The cool lady voice for the countdown sequence(I'm almost certain that voice is at the end of the first two Alien films =P).
Exhibit B - 0:15 cheesy, over the top but memorable stunts.
Exhibit C - 0:24 sega megadrive cgi/graphics =D
I love and miss 80's films especially the action ones, THE best ever =)
Johny40Se7en 9 months ago
Sad moment but funny entry to it especially when she takes a few klingons with her when she blows up.
Shanethefilmmaker 9 months ago
I think it is funny after all the alien races that tried to destroy the Enterprise in TOS, it was Kirk who finally pulled the plug on the old girl.
Robsc249 10 months ago
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Scioneer 10 months ago
@Robsc249 Heck..If Kirk didn't do it, Starfleet was going to.
HAT1701D 10 months ago
Get out of there Marty!!!
PawnSacrific3 10 months ago 14
@PawnSacrific3 That is what I was Thinking. LMFAO!
xellos26 9 months ago
this scene always breaks my heart
optimusprimal1972200 10 months ago
It's almost kind of sad the see the ship that you grew up watching as a kid be destoryed, almost like losing a loved member of the family.
VazzaPrime 11 months ago
anyone notice the hand that came from off camera when the klingon landed
wildstar145 11 months ago
I can imagine if I was around when this first came out in theaters, I would be traumatized by this event. Just the graphic destruction of a vessel we've all grown to love. :(
rob062388 11 months ago
@rob062388 I remember that day. We didn't have internet in those days so this was a total surprise unless you were lucky enough to attend one of the Trek conventions in the larger cities. After seeing this movie, we would go home and stare at the wall thinking about what we just saw. No one to talk to or anything. Most of my family were not Trek fans. Now as I look at this scene it reminds me of the day the Columbia burned up on re-entry. It was so beauty yet so tragic.
Robsc249 10 months ago
My God Bones...what have I done?
SoftBank47 11 months ago
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R.I.P. Enterprise 1701. :'(
StoneKnivesBearskins 1 year ago
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R.I.P. Enterprise 1701. :'(
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StoneKnivesBearskins 1 year ago
the most sad thing i think about this is when he yells "get out get out of there!!!" all i can think of is"doc brown" from back to the future ¬_¬
Ramzzy666 1 year ago
I can't belive I'm saying this, but fuck you writers of Star Trek III
anakinfan8 1 year ago
...That's most definitely not how a starship explodes. Obviously the fire in space is fake, but the disc is the only part that explodes?
It's still a good movie.
theimpossiblers 1 year ago
There are two modes of self-destruct: The first is Destruct-Zero to be used when near a planetary body you don't want to destroy where smaller matter-antimatter charges are used to destroy the computer and superstructure, but ejecting the antimatter pods. The second and much nastier option Destruct-One is a forced overload of the main warp core which would have taken the Bird of Prey and Genesis Planet out. This is from the "Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise".
MadMichigander1313 1 year ago
WOW at 0.23 the big e looks at her best just to spiral down showing the inevitable her last stand and man did she go out with a bang! I love this ship and the re imagined 09 beast an elegant phoenix (YES THE SO CALLED J.J PRISE!) The Enterprise NCC 1701
budd2200 1 year ago
Seems like a pretty crappy auto-destruct system, if you ask me. The front half of the saucer blows up... leaving the secondary hull and drive systems intact?
HawkGTboy 1 year ago
@HawkGTboy I don't know... you see those electric discharges and explosions all along the hull? I'd be surprised if anything was "intact" after that, especially on the inside... but yeah, I get your point, it's no complete destruction.
BwZTheTouch 1 year ago
@HawkGTboy Her Warp Core, I believe, was explicitly disabled, likewise the Fusion Impulse engines likely were as well. Those are the primary method of detonation onboard most federation starships, since they don't leave ANYTHING left.
vp21ct 1 year ago
The fuel is usually in the lower decks, so naturally the saucer blows up -.-
waffleownage 1 year ago
What you had to do. What you always do: turn death into a fighting chance to live.
toolrocky 1 year ago
I wonder if Torg was thinking "SH**, WE"RE DEAD!"
Sulaco516 1 year ago
How come there are explosives planted in the saucer section? Why not just blow up the warp core? Here the warp core in the engineering section and the nacelles are left basically intact, wouldn't those technologies be important to protect with the self-destruct system? Only thing that comes to mind is that the anti-matter/matter reaction would probably blow up the nearby celestial bodies too, considering the jiggawatts (yes, that's the same actor) of energy needed for a warp drive.
Simpson654 1 year ago
Why kirk have to do that???...25 years of history gone!!!
romeonarcizo 1 year ago
@romeonarcizo Kirk had to destroy Enterprise to keep it from being captured by enemy forces. They were un-crewed, and the automation system was crashed by the weapons exchange. Essentially, Enterprise was a hulk in space because of lack of manpower (that's what the crew is for). Kirk orders "...Destruct Zero..." - a sequence used near celestial bodies. Antimatter bottles are ejected, Ship's computer dumps all data, and charges destroy the superstructure to make the hull useless...
Guitarec 1 year ago
This has probably already been touched on,(i'm not scrollin' waaay back) but after all the references thru the history of the series BEFORE this detonation to how the ship would go up like an exploding star 'cause of the matter-antimatter materials used in detonation,then to have the kind of explosion that it had,( although granted,the explosion was still very powerful & did the intended job) made trek fans back in the day say "what!!?the shockwave should've probably rocked the planet!! lol lol
flossjw1 1 year ago
@flossjw1
Well, as I posted before reading your question, the self-destruct sequence blew up the _saucer section_, not the engingeering section that houses the warp core. There are no shockwaves in space though, just as in space, no one can hear you scream. You need a gas or a solid to conduct shockwaves. But the blast would have sent the pieces of the Enterprise hurtling at near-lightspeed, each having enough energy to vaporize a city.
Simpson654 1 year ago
God I hate this scene. I cried and cried like a baby in the theatre when I first saw this. Spoke dead....and now..the destruction of the Enterprise. :(
dwood37 1 year ago
come on, even if this is the future, and all this stuff could really "happen"...there is no way to explain how fire can exist in a place with no oxygen i.e: space therefore
why is there fire outside the ship as it exploded???
(not to mention sound)
ThreeSpheres909 1 year ago
@ThreeSpheres909 well, there was oxygen escaping from the ship, allowing the fires for a very short amount of time
as for sound... films have pretty much always broken that little law that says there is no sound in space (except for a few, like space odyssey)
Omegafire17 1 year ago
It might have been easier to just flood the decks with like some deadly gas or something,....seems more practical
deuce01983 1 year ago
@deuce01983 true but then you don't get the epic explosion and plus the enterprise was already severly damaged in the attack with the Relient in star trek 2, so as much as i dislike saying it even if they did use some gases or just take life support offline on those decks, I don't believe the enterprise could have survived the battle with the bird of prey
Darkphoenix588 1 year ago 2
@Darkphoenix588 Oh come on! =) With a name like Enterprise? Enterprise always wins! But yeah you're right that the explosion is truly epic over deadly gas.
katanaburner 8 months ago
@Darkphoenix588
Well, in general even a damaged constitution class ship was more than a match against a bird of brey. More logical would be the fact, that the enterprise was already beeing decomissioned and laked a lot of the basic features.
Deanbabylon 7 months ago
@Deanbabylon Like a full crew. Once the automation system went, Kirk couldn't fight the ship.
williamskidfears 7 months ago
@Deanbabylon
Actually the Enterprise was disabled because Mr Scott's automation program overloaded, due to the fact it wasn't programmed for combat, just basic ship operations, which resulted in the shields failing to respond.
If the ship had a full crew running it instead of fully automated systems, it would've easily defeated the bird of prey.
Alstom1995 7 months ago
they could've rammed the bird of prey and destroy it although it would cripple the enterprise even more..
MrHoppers002 7 months ago
@MrHoppers002
Enterprise couldn't move, thanks to the automations failing. Without at least a skelton crew it needed the automation system to do any complex operations. Thus they needed the Bird of Prey to escape.
bob1986 3 months ago
i know. I meant while the bird of prey was shot with the 2 torpedoes and was temporarily disabled. They could've followed up with some more shots or just rammed the bird of prey. but kirk and his crew got old and really slow otherwise they would've done that.
MrHoppers002 3 months ago
@MrHoppers002
Well if they wanted to destroy the Bird of Prey they could have just fired more. Since they didn't, and tried to raise the shields instead obviously they wanted a surrender instead (since if Enterprise had been working properly the BOP wouldn't have stood a chance) possibly to grill them for info about what had happened.
Remember the plan was to get Spock and get him to Vulcan. Not kill a bunch of Klingon's.
bob1986 3 months ago
@Darkphoenix588 True, and I know your comment is over a year old but I just feel like destroying the Enterprise like this didn't really work. It'd be great to see the ship prove the Admiral from earlier wrong, prove that the Enterprise still has life in her. But unfortunately, he was proven right, the Enterprise was old and the only way for it to be useful, was for it to be destroyed.
Clonetrooperkev 3 months ago
@deuce01983 well it is a space ship, would it not have been simpler to just vent all decks except the bridge? suffocation is easiest
bloodyusernamedammit 1 year ago
@deuce01983 Yeah, I wonder why Starfleet didn't do that... maybe that they felt there could be surviving crewmembers who might be killed by it, or some species can adapt to it that it would be useless, or it is in Starfleet ethnics not use gases.
Drew47AT 11 months ago
At least the Enterprise had a valiant death instead of being scrapped. After all of the journeys, it was able to be destroyed with honor.
thefinalfrontier1701 1 year ago
why kirk did not buy insurance i will never no
luigi19987 1 year ago
mr scott did not cry
luigi19987 1 year ago
"What you had to do. What you always do. Turn death into a fighting chance to live."
freehal04 1 year ago
Ill always love how the the only person who could ever kill the Enterprise was Kirk
Squire1017A 1 year ago
i can say one thing kirk always knows how to go out with a bang
LYCAN2099 1 year ago
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Star Trek died with this ship. Now it's all treaty here and saving people there. I think Kirk should have gone down with his ship insead of dieing on a ship that he's been on once and has no care in the world for. Thumb me up if you agree.
booomfilms 1 year ago
@booomfilms Did you... seriously watch any of the other movies in this part of the series? Honestly? He gets a ship that's ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE THIS ONE. It's a little better, but not by much. It's even the same class, with the same exterior design. Besides, the early episodes WERE about treaty here, saving people there. But half of DS9 and Enterprise are in a WAR. You are seriously misinformed mah friend.
TheZacula 1 year ago
@booomfilms I don't think anyone agrees with you.
HimFeeWatchVideoDem 1 year ago
I nearly cry every time I see this,,,,
vettesex 1 year ago
@vettesex I really cried when i saw it... I was just a kid back then, but i cried and replayed that scene over and over, wishing that it won't happen when i look at it again.
674886 1 year ago
hmm i watched this before and it was all screwed up too... but now its fine? maybe cuz i have google chrome now cuz before i was using firefox. idk thats all i can think of. unless it just works now. or im just lucky tonight haha
madness678 1 year ago
my dad got that on dvd
sonicman2500 1 year ago
...breaks my heart to watch this.......
pilotman1968 1 year ago 4
Why won't someone just upload this movie?
spudnutsncoffee 1 year ago
This never made sense. The only way to self destruct is to overload the core. That will obliterate the entire ship. Why pack explosives in the saucer section so that most of it survives for an enemy to dissect?
transdrole 1 year ago
@transdrole i say battledamege from the wrath of khan took out most the systems needed for a core explosion lol or the film makers wanted dramatic effect blowing her up bit by bit ;.........
songokusatsu 1 year ago
@transdrole The ship was damaged and partially working, some parts of the self-destruct systems could probably have been disabled. Even if it didn't get completely destroyed, the damage from the blast would have been enough to prevent any full salvage, plus the ship itself couldn't compensate for Genesis's gravity well and fell into the planet.
EagleTempest 1 year ago
@transdrole From what I've read in some Star Trek tech manuals which show Starfleet ships. Federation vessels have 2 self destruct programs. Primary is a warp core overload. It the primary self destruct can't be used for what ever reason ships are built with explosive charges in them that are supposed to rip the ship apart when the self destruct is armed.
seebee077 1 year ago
Glorious end to the OG
bry245 1 year ago
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bry245 1 year ago
Lets face it, i mean it was a sense of closure. Because no doubt they had planned to bring in the other "Fresh" Enterprise for the next feature film i.e the 1701-A. After all in this film, Starfleet was going to decommision the Enterrprise, because she was 20 years old and that they felt her day was over. Have to admit when i first saw the film, i couldn't believe what i was seeing.
BuddyFantastic 1 year ago
Destroying the Original Enterprise was the equivalent of Buring down Dodge City right to the Ground in Gunsmoke.
Destroying that Legendary Ship was the real ending to the Original Series Cast Era.
The Original Enterprise was the Main character after the Leads.
Roadracer987654321 1 year ago
They destroyed her because her weapons and engines were "disabled"...
YoungandRestlessboy 1 year ago
@YoungandRestlessboy Why couldnt have Scotty fixed her then? because he couldve saved her
Ezza190 1 year ago
@Ezza190
Scotty is supposed to be a "Miracle Worker" He could have said "Captain, I can get a wee-bit of power for the phasers!" instead of "I got no control over anything!"
YoungandRestlessboy 1 year ago
The USS Enterprise (NCC-1701) never lost a battle. It's last battle was more of a draw.
YoungandRestlessboy 1 year ago
and for everything in the end Khan is responsible..... ... . . KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
buokopter 1 year ago
Never made sense that they gave the crew the same outdated Constitution class design storywise. Obviously it save the expense of a new model. I would have liked to have seen another Federation ship design apart from the Reliant and the Excelsior.
dafmurray 1 year ago
@dafmurray , According to the narrative, the Enterprise was being used as a trainer on Kirk's request. Admiral Morrow had declined Scott's request for materiel to refit Enterprise - but could have been stuck dismantling her. She was running with a skeleton crew, and with most systems automated. They thought it was going to be a milkrun.
alcockell 1 year ago
I saw this at the Movioes on Opening day. My hands grabbed the arms of the theater chair. My heart was racing. My thoughts were racing and I thought, " I't Can't Be...."
: ) When I lft the theater I had no idea how this would be remedied.I didn't like the Excelsior.
Roadracer987654321 1 year ago
Enterprise was 40 years old when it was destoryed (2245-2285 years in service), The ship faced Klignons, Romulans, that doomsday device, Khan twice, the space ameoba, galactic barrier, Kelvans, First Federation, Gorn, Organians, V'Ger, Talosians, tons of others.
YoungandRestlessboy 1 year ago
@YoungandRestlessboy
oh yes alot of historic value too me
JediMasterHorton 1 year ago
The saucer section!!!!
U3X6785 1 year ago
Eeww...why is it all sped up and weird lookin'?
applebomber22 1 year ago
It was appropriate thing which Mc Coy said after Kirk had asked ...What have I done???...Mc Coy:What you done..what you have always done: Turn death around and gave it a fighting chance to live!!!
mikethegent 2 years ago
thank god the original model was kept when the made the enterprise A (except they slapped an A onto it in some spots, but now all)
Kargaroc286 2 years ago
ah they got what they deserved
althom01 2 years ago
Can you make the audio not match the video more? I can still make sense of what happened
Sunburn2007 2 years ago 8
LOL.
old4mat 2 years ago
@Sunburn2007 Can you do better??
Truckteacher 7 months ago
@Truckteacher Probably.
Sunburn2007 7 months ago
one of the most sad events seen on a star trek movie
pat1981lux 2 years ago 17
@pat1981lux no no when spac died that was sad
carlomasterofamine 1 year ago
gotta love those special effects.
stueckdreck 2 years ago
You should Google
Category mark dickson there are pictures of the studio model enterprise also the one that was blown up in star trek 3 which is on the next page
Really cool stuff
coolastro 2 years ago
Actually Gene Roddenberry was dead set against destroying the Enterprise.
darthroden 2 years ago 3
Big Mistake Destroying the Legendary Enterprise. Destroying that Ship was like Burning down the Ponderosa Ranch and Dodge City. When that ship was Blown Up it was the First Event that signaled the end of Old Trek.
To be even more of a Legend,The Enterprise's Burned out Main Frame and Partial Hull and Engines, should have been discovered by a Science / Surbey Team while Drifting in space at the edge of the Genesis/ Mutara system. It would have brought a tear to anyone's eye to see her Rescued.
Roadracer987654321 2 years ago
No, the Enterprise fell into Genesis's atmosphere and burned up, anything left was destroyed when the planet blew up.
TyVulpine 2 years ago
I saw Star Trek 3 on opening day, June 1st 1984 at 3;05 pm at the Multiplex near me. I made it a tradition to always see a trek film o nOpening day always. I only broke that on Trek 2,8 and the last one. For some reason the Better films I end up not seeing on opening.i have even braved a Torrential Rainstorm for Trek 5. I took to Girlfriend from hell( found out afterwards she was after money only ) I saw the NCC-1701 Blow up on day one. I thought to myslf ," NO ! " I was gripping the seat
Roadracer987654321 2 years ago
@Roadracer987654321
i agree with ya man but the role play site that i am at think's there is no possibility but im with spock's famous words there are always possibilitys
JediMasterHorton 2 years ago
@Roadracer987654321
You reminded me of something.....somewhere I did come across a book, comic, or fan video where the Next Generation crew (or someone else?) did "stumble" upon the burnt-out hull of Enterprise NCC-1701, with half the saucer gone and extreme damage...and they towed (tractor beamed) her back to Space Dock.
Very interesting idea if it had ever been done on DS-9, Voyager, Enterprise, or NextGen - certainly would have stirred up people's emotions.
DarthSnoopy96 1 year ago
Is there something wrong with the clip speed, is moving 20x faster than the sound.
jorge9177 2 years ago
It's one thing to say "it was just a ship, a thing", but to anyone who has ever served on a ship for a long period of time (and particularly when circumstances have made that ship literally home, or vital to your survival), has that feeling that it is more than a vessel. You ascribe a persona to it. In some ways, some people are the same way about their cards. You figure, these guys spent some 10-15 years on board the Enterprise, she became far more than just a construct. (Especially to Scotty!)
pinkdrink1 2 years ago 2
when you say cards did you mean cars or something else?
DoctorWhoisit 2 years ago
Cars, yes. That's why you shouldn't post late at night, oi. Spelling and grammar are the first things to go.
pinkdrink1 2 years ago
Logic and commen sense arent far behind... I had to ask cause I was thinking... is this guy/girl into pokemon cards or something... maybe he's into solitare.
DoctorWhoisit 2 years ago
Trek lore indicates that Kirk's final command, "...destruct zero," sets the ship to eject it's warp core and detonate specially-placed charges amind the superstructure, whiel a final code of, "...destruct one," would drop the magnetic containment fields for the antimatter resulting in a planned 'core breach.' Given he was so close to planet and that he envisioned needing the KIingon Bird of Prey, he opted for the non-core breach destruct. This is Trek lore only, not canon.
Danbo020759 2 years ago
the ship seems to 'melt' from the inside out? perhaps some kind of EPS overload? thanks for the 'code' thing. makes sense
qetoun 2 years ago
William Shatner basically killed Star Trek by scuttling the Enterprise! I hope he burns in hell for all eternity!
RIP USS Enterprise NCC-1701
droidekabakugan1986 2 years ago
Huh? How do you figure Star Trek died with Star Trek III?
DoctorWhoisit 2 years ago
Because the Enterprise is the sole embodiment of Star Trek. People see her and think, "Oh, look! Star Trek!" The Enterprise IS Star Trek.
droidekabakugan1986 2 years ago 2
Maybe to you the Enterprise is the "sole embodiment" of Star Trek, but I think Kirk, Spock, McCoy and other ships and charecters and things are just as crusial a part of Star Trek as the Enterprise. The Enterprise is without a doubt a very important part of ST but it is by no means the whole and all of Star Trek. Even at the end of ST III it says "And the human adventure continues..." or something to that affect indicating that the story is far from over.
DoctorWhoisit 2 years ago
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I laugh at that part all the time because the Enterprise was just another piece of material. And tough guys like that is gonna cry over a (in the words of bones) "godammn" ship. It's only a goddamn ship. If I was one of those guys, that's wht I would've said. LMGDFAO!!!!!
AJGreene007 2 years ago
there crying for the same reasons that people cry when there home goes down in flames, yes a home can be replaced as a ship can be replaced but it's not the same, its not just another house it's YOUR house, it's not just any ship... its THERE ship. the ship that always got them home and kept them safe no matter what hell they put her through.
DoctorWhoisit 2 years ago
@DoctorWhoisit
Exactly even McCoy said to Data in the TNG premier "Treat a ship like a lady, and she'll always get you home."
Scioneer 2 years ago
Shatner dedication in great new bio (All About Jeffrey Hunter)at amazon!
Bestmanme08 2 years ago
That was so well done, I loved what Ken Ralston and his team did to make it explode in sections, not all at once. Big credit to James Horner's music at the end too.
ElectronicaFan83 2 years ago
That was back when destroying a starship meant something, it had some emotional impact. These days it's always a parallel universe, alternate timeline, time travel, a dream, etc.
thanks51 2 years ago
no i ment at star trek future begins the 2009 version ring a bell??? in the movie neroes henchman will say "pardon nero 7 federation ships are on their way" one was late and got saved from nero because the helm forgot to disengage the initial external adapaner when they warped 2 vulcan they found d debri of the enterprises.
giradiapal 2 years ago
You dumbass! It's an external inertial dampener--in other words, a parking brake!
droidekabakugan1986 2 years ago
im assuming you mean shit-go watch star wars you twat
billbillysparks 2 years ago
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this is nothing compared to star trek 2009 7 federation ships all destroyed the1st one was the uss kelvin the 2nd one was the 6 enterprises that warped to vulcan and attacked by nero.
giradiapal 2 years ago
What the F are you talking about? 6 Enterprises warped to Vulcan? There is only 1 Enterprise, it arrived at Vulcan after the destruction of the U.S.S. Hood, the U.S.S. Faragut and a few others.
jamintaylor 2 years ago
I happened to catch the name of one of the destroyed ships. She was called the USS Lowe.
droidekabakugan1986 2 years ago
Well so much for that ship piece of ship compared to the Enterprise D
crackshack2 2 years ago
This was actually the first movie I saw in the days of Drive in theaters......and it shocked me then since I was a young one.
I even remember looking at my dad and saying something about scratching the paint.
DeathscytheRick 2 years ago
My God Bones! What have I done?
Strideo1 2 years ago 14
@Strideo1
What you had to do! What you always do! Turn death into a fighting chance to live!
TwilightDarkness505 1 year ago
@Strideo1 ''bones, you just blew up the finest ship ever''
Ezza190 1 year ago
@Strideo1 it's what you had to do, its what you always do, giving Death a fighting chance to live.
stampede122 1 year ago
i remember the utter disbelief i felt when i first saw this scene back in the good ol days. she may have been a rust bucket but she was 1701 no bloody a,b,c or d.
billbillysparks 2 years ago 3
Nice Scotty TNG reference!
lojosol 2 years ago
Ha ha awesome! I made the same Scotty reference last week. :P
Grykus7 2 years ago
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RedShadow1917 2 years ago 2
Herb Morrison is down on Genesis, and he goes into his hysterical documentation of the disaster. "This is the worst of the worst catastrophes in the world! Oh, the humanity!" LOL!
droidekabakugan1986 2 years ago 3
man i always hated this because this was my overall favorite version of the enterprise.
crazymann47 2 years ago
mine 2...
Eiermann86 2 years ago 2
Slow it DOWN
rprince418 2 years ago
GET OUT!! GET OUT OF THERE!!
GET OUT!!!
cydonianman 2 years ago
Can you repost this video? The video speed is all screwed up and no one else has bothered to post this scene on YouTube (to my surprise).
eXcommunicate1979 2 years ago 10
it works fine on my iTouch, but yeah on a standard comp, the video is way too fast, and the sound is playing as it should.
lojosol 2 years ago 3
It's cool how they destroyed it too. Instead of just seeing an explosion you get to see the burned hulk being flung through space after the saucer has burned and, subsequently, exploded. Always an awesome scene!
stads24 2 years ago
THIS is why kirk is so smart.
kirk-1
klingons- -999999999999999999
LEGOALEX97 2 years ago 2
And agreed on the emotional impact. I was 18 and had somehow managed to NOT be spoiled (I think I missed the trailers on TV.) I went in and was STUNNED when this happened. I know that Kirk had little choice, and better THIS ending helping to save the lives of her crew than being ignominiously scrapped by Starfleet, but still... Even NOW it's painful to watch!
logandarklighter 2 years ago
One thing I think some of you are missing. You keep wondering why the self-destruct didn't destroy the whole ship and left part of it to burn up in the atmosphere. Note - the self destruct sequence may have been CONTINUING as it fell through the atmosphere, but the smaller explosions rippling back down the secondary hull and nacelles wouldn't be visible through the larger ball of fire. I think if this had been in open space you would see that. But the descent into the atmosphere obscured it.
logandarklighter 2 years ago
It's also likely that some of the detonators may have been damaged in either the battle against Kahn or the Klingons. Hey, ya never know.
GeraldRobotnik 2 years ago
Umm something's wrong with your video. The video is speeding up too fast for the audio to catch up.
Coraxuss 2 years ago 5
Kinda like it this way. Different, but cool.
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citharadraconis 2 years ago
he's not saluting he's holding his jacket.
esotericfilms 2 years ago