The thing is, depression can affect anyone regardless of wealth, class, social status or how we percieve 'luckiness' .... you can have a life of going on holidays once a month, living in a 9 bed house etc and be MISERABLE and you can live in a grotty council home and be the happiest person alive
Ricky Gervais likes to play the enlightened thinker at times. He could not be more wrong about depression being something that only seems to hit over-privileged celebrities & not blue-collar workers. Depression hits both alike & neither should be dismissed on the basis of income. I do get the sardonic comic persona thing. It's hard to be sure what mode Ricky is in here; however, there is a time and place to play the "cynical prick" for laughs and talking about mental health issues isn't it.
I am well aware there are those who play the depression card for fame and attention but there are easily enough famous people who suffer from genuine depression that talking about it condescendingly in general terms is not a good idea. I'm quite sure those with depressive conditions, particularly bi-polar, are drawn to the performance arts for several reasons related to their condition and are probably over-represented in those professions.
Because some become successful (possibly driven in part by their mental health issues) they shouldn't have to feel they can't speak openly about it, especially if they feel it could help others.
@looseSpark He's not making fun of celebrities who have depression. He's making fun of celebrities who are telling everyone about it. Like he said, "Why are you calling your publicist before calling your doctor?"
@lovemeordie83 If so, I wish that came across more strongly. That comment comes up quite far into the video & he actually says it in relation to celebs who say they're addicted to sex, not depression. From the beginning he is targeting depressed celebs they are rich & privileged, and compares them with blue-collar workers who lack such. There really should be no distinction.
@looseSpark He targeted them for recieving that much attention for it, not the fact that they have it when they shouldn't because they're rich. Stephen Fry said it himself; mood disorders are more or less like the weather, it's not within human control. However, just as it should not be used as a punch-line to celebrity jokes, it shouldn't be used to gain more publicity. Both of them are insulting to the rest of those who have depression. G'day.
@lovemeordie83 Well I kind of agree with you there, but I have my doubts that there really are any celebrities that have done that. I think it's more likely a trope that has no basis in reality. I could be wrong though and would give consideration to any proof to the contrary. In any case, I suspect it more likely they might either just see the chance to talk about it as therapeutic or genuinely wish to raise awareness and lower stigma.
@lovemeordie83 While the stigma is less than it was once, I don't think depression has made the crossover to career booster yet in the eyes of the general public or potential celeb employer (unlike alcohol/drug/sex addiction which has been for years).
@lovemeordie83 If you've watched Ricky for a while you'll know his humour is very sardonic & often he adopts a persona or view that is either not really what he actually believes or is exaggerated for comic effect. I get that. In many cases, it's amusing but, in this case I feel, misguided. It gave out the wrong message.
@lovemeordie83 If he meant something different, I'm not sure everyone will get it. I'd much rather depression be explained and understood for what it is than be an opportunity to have a quick giggle about the excesses of celebrity.
yeah, this reminds me o Amy Winehouse, when she turned out dead some people were all like "poor thing"...poor thing? she made fucking millions every month, didn't have to work on a shitty ass job like 90% of the world she has every fucking thing in the world she needs and you pity her? if i started doing drugs right now my family would beat the shit out of me telling me my life is way too good for me to try and escape all with drugs and shit, and you know what, it really is
@felphero She had no-one to help her escape. Hate attention seeking celebrities all you want but when you turn that into some irrational hatred of a talented woman who suffered with addiction and ultimately died a very shitty lonely death.
Your so full of hate you can't tell the difference between those in the public eye who have clawed with desperation to get their and those that never fitted that mould or enjoyed being a 'celebrity'. Like you said people would help you, she was beyond that.
*sigh* His point is the celebs who phone Hello and The Sun saying they are depressed get a two page spread, and 50 quid. When their are people who struggle alone with out the papers, or fans sending them nice cards.
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oh please, do they really have ANY REASON to be depressed? They only have more money than they can ever spend, everything they ever wanted, and they are depressed? Give me a break.
@nancy6ify You don't understand what depression is. Clinical depression is a serious issue, and you don't get over it by just "cheering up". But celeberties are people too, and I don't think they should print this bullcrap about them being depressed and doing drugs and other retarded shit. Let them ruin themselves, I don't have the slightest pity or interest in their personal life.
that sexaddiction part made me lol so hard, not because its about seeex but because its just so true. I mean for real ?? Addicted so sex, howdowha...hahahahaha thats just so stupid. "Im addicted to sex' not a problem not a problem' shut up why are you telling me about it ?' why are you calling your publicist before you call a doctor, addicted to sex JESUS CHRIST!" XD hhahahahahaha
a video's just been released on youtube containing rare footage of amy winehouse's last words, so sad. search for 'amy winehouse's last words' on youtube, i'd post the link but this wouldn't let me.
Er.... I'm not sure how old you are, but I think you'll find that the people (for a simple easy example) who were there in New York when the planes crashed into the Twin Towers and they screamed "oh my God"..... I don't think you'll find that they were using it as a joke....
If Ricky is the Atheist he says he is, and doesn't believe in God etc etc, well, that truly does make him a gigantic hypocrite when he uses words like God and Jesus Christ.
@Jez2008UK i mean people use as a figure of speech in many situations, a joke being one of them, but i doubt many people use it seriously meaning "oh my god".
@Jez2008UK Er.. REALLY? Get a life! I'm an atheist and I believe there was a very good man (perhaps a little schizophrenic!) but a VERY good man who taught us how to live. And I live by Christian principles every day.
I just refuse to believe in something that lives somewhere up in the sky that football players pray to! so they can beat the crap out of the opposing team! I guess God must HATE the other team. God must be busy on weekends!!
@ripcalwill HAHAHA you consider jesus's teachings moral and how you should your live?? Have you even read the bible?? He contradicts himself on many occasions for example when he wants his disciples to turn the other cheek but then says later to slay their enemies. His teachings weren't even original many of the things he said can be seen at earlier times in history. For example the teachings of Confucius. He also threatens people that don't believe in god with hell-fire.
@Jez2008UK Not, no it does not make his statments hypocrytical at all becuase God and Jesus Christ are actually words and thus must be spoken in order to articulate them. I, too, am an athiest, but I vocally articulate words such as `god` and `jesus` and in the context that you describe above. If you, say, didn`t belive on the concept of a car or a shoe, does this then mean you could not speak the words?
@Jez2008UK You don't have to believe in god to say "oh my god". I mean do you think people who say "my giddy aunt" have an aunty with vertigo? It's just an expression also saying "Jesus Christ" when your an athiest is not hypocritical even by your warped logic because most athiests believe in the existence of Jesus as I suspect Gervais does.
@Jez2008UK You don't have to believe in God or Jesus to say them, these words are common in our vocabulary now-days. Its compareable to saying "oh my", "oh my goodness". I don't believe in big foot but I I can still say it.
He's right and it makes me thinkg that the celebrity lifestyle and the attention it garners is what attracts whinging losers in the first place while the tough, hardy people get on with real life.
I love Ricky normally, but he needs to know that there's a difference between celebrity depression and the real thing. Kerry Catona and Amy Winehouse = spoilt bitchs. However real working class people do suffer from the real thing and it's not funny.
@ticketyboooo ..Thats exactly the point Ricky was trying to make, he was saying that to imply that the celebs don't know how good they have it compared to those at the bottom of the ladder.
I love how Ricky is so down to earth and has no pretentions about being a celebrity. I've got nothing but respect for him as his success is all self-made and he works harder than possibly any other celebrity.
@crinoss2 Get out of your fucking dream World that everyone has perfectly, straight white teeth, your teeth lose colour due to food, drink and smoking, look at people in the US who are on TV and their teeth are fake veneers that have been bleached to the whitest of white, you probably think Bruno Mars' teeth are real....
@crinoss2 No doubt, covered in plaque, eroding all over the shop, they are a dirty shade of Nelson Mandela, hate brushing the cunts, my gums bleed when I do so....
@jimmyPain2121 Fine, you tell me another millionaire, English comedian who's depressed, has suffered from sex addiction and is a former heroin addict and alcoholic.
I love how people get annoyed with Ricky Gervais (granted I don't think the office or extras is funny but) when he is just being honest, he doesn't sugar coat reality and pretend to something he isn't. Sure he often comes off as a dick but thats because the truth can hurt sometimes.
@goth1agw1omw .If you don't think The office or Extras is funny, you must be like one of the idiot Characters from The Office or Extras that Ricky ''The Genius '' Gervais has so cleverly Written, you fuckin idiot!
@chezwahum Calm down, I never said anything bad about The Office or Extras, I just said I don't like it. It's just personal preference. You're getting a little touchy about a TV show. I find Ricky Gervais as himself funny, just not those shows.
@Mjhavok exactly! working class moms DO get depressed. he's misinformed.
and there are plenty of people who get into vices coz they are trying to combat some other less-obvious problem in their life, like loneliness. so they have had the guts to own up to it and try to deal with their problems. fine, lots of people do that without drugs. but once you DO get into it, its an ADDICTION (not weakness) so overcoming the odds IS impressive. that part was ok comedy, but not 'big think'.
@AlanMathewPolson He didn't say it in that context though. Everyone gets depressed, it's just that working mums etc. will deal with it a lot better than these very priviliged celebrities who spend all of their days getting attention off it, and then making tv shows showing their "comeback" to "normal" life.
@AlanMathewPolson What, you think these people who make millions from doing an easy-ish job are depressed? Go to a council estate and ask a single mother of 5 if she's got time to be depressed or take drugs to combat the depression. If she does, then you can call Ricky stupid, but until then, he's 100% right!
People get into drugs for stupid reasons, not to combat depression. I know three people who have been through depression and they didn't take any narcotics to make themselves happy!
hardly what i think. it's what is statistically provable. fact of the matter is, it's easier to be a good mother than it is to be a good actor. one has nature and genes going for you. if you think acting is easy-ish, you are mis-informed.
its interesting to think that, given a fair number of real life examples, mr gervais would be willing to admit that he could have been more sensitive, but his fans will insist on thinking him infallible.
& fyi, your 3 friends are the lucky *few*. open your eyes
@AlanMathewPolson I'm on a media course, I work with people who are training to act. I've also met and spoken to professional actors and I've also acted in a few films and plays. Raising a child is NOT, repeat, fucking NOT easier than acting my friend! You're grossly misinformed and you're making a fool of yourself by saying something that stupid! I don't think everything gervais says is forgivable, but he's generally saying what we're all thinking and that's a good thing!
@AlanMathewPolson Can I assume that you don't have children yourself? Can I also assume that you've never spent time with nephews or neices? I don't have kids, but I have 3 cousins and how their parents handle them, I don't know how they do it! Being an actor doesn't make someone depressed, they generally have issues, which is why they get into acting, to prove their issues are meaningless and harmless, but in reality, they're unhappy. Doesn't mean they should get special treatment!
@TheRandyChimp i've seen enough broken families to know that children can be good or bad with or without good parenting. a performance is always better if the performer does better.
parenting is easier coz it's instinctive. a good actor may have to work against his instincts. has to feel things that he isn't feeling. when you're around family, you can expect them to understand you. at your job, you can't.
these are facts.
actors shouldn't get special treatment. just regular sensitivity.
@AlanMathewPolson Regular sensitivity yes, but when a crack user checks into rehab, theres not a big fuss. When a celebrity does it, there are newspapers, magazines, tv crews. It's all for that. They do it to boost their fame. You're deluded. Raising a child is a responsibility, acting isn't. You are clearly deluded. Being a parent is one of the hardest jobs there is and you don't get paid for it! Acting is one of the easiest jobs, since you dont have to be good (Matthew McConaughey for example)
@TheRandyChimp actually you have to be good, or you won't have a very good career. also, you will note that while we put up with mediocre actors, the moment they go off the rails, we dump them. you can't force the public to like something. there's at least a free market for that. research the acting industry. it's not as easy as u think, to become famous 4 something good. rejection is a way of life for actors. its tough. its the people who have shown some talent who we try to get back on track.
@AlanMathewPolson I've already told you, I've worked with actors, I've spoken to actors, I've acted myself. We may not be fantastic, but we're competant. It's not our concern to get these people back on track. We idolize these people which makes them think they're superior to the rest of us. You aren't getting the damn point. Regular people get "depressed" after a bit of a binge or if they haven't had a project in a while, whilst regular, hard working folk just put up with it!
@TheRandyChimp an actor IS a regular person. it is you who are thinking of them as different, not me.
it isn't the *public's* concern, it's the acting industry's. and if the industry want to film it, because people want to watch it, they have a right to that. you think anyone wants to have his low moments put up for the world to criticize? maybe they are the victims too? if you don't like it, don't tune in. they don't get paid. they get paid because they're watchable no one's cheating you.
@AlanMathewPolson What do you think the first thing is that certain famous people do once they've checked into rehab? Call their agent, get some coverage of the whole "event", boost their image for the people at home. "oooh, boo hoo hoo, i can't take it anymore, all this wealth and easy living, i might end it all!" Oh fucking end it all then! A lot of actors are decent hard working people, the people Ricky is talking about are the sponges who dont do anything but appear in magazines!
@TheRandyChimp i certainly hope you don't believe wat you are saying. name these people you are talking about. charlie sheen? lindsay lohan? Britney spears? marilyn monroe? most people PUT UP wit the press. they don't seek it out. some people like the limelight, but they get burned by it, just the same. so it evens out. my point is, ricky gervais' comments, while entertaining, do more harm than good, because they fuel resentment for human beings who are trying to get by.
@AlanMathewPolson The people he's talking about are trying to get by from sponging off the people who buy gossip magazines. Hell, some people are paid by the magazines to appear, so the public can gawp at them and go "oooh, aren't they rich!" It's pathetic.
People trying to get by doesn't apply to people in fame and fortune. Getting by is when you work 9 hours in a factory warehouse. Getting by is mopping the floors in a shithole. Getting by is gaining minimum wage for working hard.
@AlanMathewPolson Look at it like this: Ian Mckellen, one of the finest living actors alive today, amazing roles, brings complete credibility to productions he works on. How many times has he gone on record and said "oooh, love me, I'm so depressed, I need drugs!" Same with, say, Johnny Depp, Leonardo Dicaprio, Colin Firth, Helena Bonham Carter, Helen Mirren, etc etc. Now, look at Lindsay Lohan, Katie Price, Paris Hilton. What are their "skills"? What do they bring to the world?
@TheRandyChimp agreed, younger single celebs act like normal people would, and dance in the limelight. but when they get burned, the press destroys them. they don't need influential people like mr gervais attacking them as well. the people you mentioned ARE famous. you'll find they don't enjoy it as much as you think they do. many are in debt. they are hounded by fashion police. its a whole different ballgame, when the street is your workplace.
@AlanMathewPolson But you don't get this at all. Look at Charlie Sheen for example. He's more famous now than he has been for 20 years! He's been extremely clever in the past month or two, he's used the "scandal" as a boost. You're not getting what I'm talking about at all. I've detailed my points clearly over the past few messages and you're still ignoring them, so I'm not going to bother anymore. You're defending people who don't need defending.
@TheRandyChimp aside from the outlandish figures of speech he uses, if you analyse what he's being trying to say, it is this: leave me alone, stop judging me.
you speak as if more fame is a good thing. in this case, mr sheen has stated that he could do without it. most drug doers are happy they don't have the fame he does, so stop acting like he wants it. he chose to come out and give the media the finger, saying, 'i dont care what you think' the media abused him for it, and u ate it up.
@AlanMathewPolson Yeah, real abuse, which is why his phrases are trending on twitter, where he got 1 million followers in a day! He's having a real tough time with it. You're such a moron, I've had enough of this, just stop now, okay. I'm done, I yield, you won't listen to reason, you won't acknowledge things that have been proven. I'm just done. This is like talking to someone about religion!
@TheRandyChimp i havnt heard any factual statements from you. just the usual false assumptions that people have about celebrities with a bit of random troll behaviour thrown in. if you don't understand the difference between fame and notoriety, press and paparazzi, publicity and violation... if you can't see the other person's point of view, then you will naturally feel like you aren't making any sense, because you aren't trying to speak, you're trying to tell, and cant stand being wrong.
@AlanMathewPolson 1. Certain famous people are paid to appear in publications such as Heat. It boosts their profile and then they fake a whinge. 2. People who are famous don't have it as hard as people who are poor. 3. Drugs are optional, if they're stupid enough to take them when they're being watched by the media, it's their own fault and they should own up, like Sheen did. 4. You're a fucking idiot.
Craig Fergeson said it better than ricky on this subject.
Keep in mind that actors go through Hell to get a break, and they continue to go through it all their lives. as James Lipton says, they experience rejection every day.
that's why they get paid so highly.
drugs arent associated with performers by chance. they're often a necessity more than a privilege.
again with the troll behaviour. not very used to rational argument, are u?
@AlanMathewPolson Drugs are never for necessity. Necessity implies that you require something to live. Water's a necessity. Sustanance is a necessity. Drugs aren't a necessity, you don't die if you don't have drugs! You want to talk rejection? We're in a recession. The amount of job loss is ridiculous. I think Sheen used the occurence to his advantage, and has succeeded.
Again with calling me a troll. What, you have to rationalise someone with the opposite opinion by labelling me as a troll?
@TheRandyChimp it is my sincere opinion that as you spend more time with actors 'in fame and out', you will realize that what you percieve to be a silver lining hoards a very dark cloud within. the amount of pressure they undergo, the rocky showbiz families they come from, all make the drug question a bit different than 4 an avg middle-class fly for whom getting through the day doesnt involve millions of dollars.
that said, i don't judge you 4 having an opinion. have a fun life and a better day.
@AlanMathewPolson as for the troll comment, I'm not a troll, trolls start arguments to cause grief. I actually believe what I'm saying. I've talked to people about it before. If I was a troll, i'd just be calling you gay in every comment!
Also, if you thought I was a troll, why did you respond to my comment? Nothing like pouring petrol on the fire!
@TheRandyChimp i said your beaviour was troll-like, not that u were a troll. it's like calling someone foolish, vs calling them a fool. big difference.
and yes, if you analyse some of the random insults you trew in, wen this clearly wasn't a 'yo mama' conversation, you'll realize that your behaviour was distinctively of the 'sadistically causing grief' kind. i don't hold it against u, just thougt you ought to have it pointed out, for self-improvement purposes.
Hahaha, he's talking about Russell Brand.
tidalwavedave305 14 hours ago
Fucking love this man.
Pazma1 17 hours ago
the cheerfully callous ricky gervais
Danniegg 1 day ago
rich famous people are a joke all they do is pretend to be someone else and fucking expect to be treated like fucking heros.
dilwich123 3 days ago
The thing is, depression can affect anyone regardless of wealth, class, social status or how we percieve 'luckiness' .... you can have a life of going on holidays once a month, living in a 9 bed house etc and be MISERABLE and you can live in a grotty council home and be the happiest person alive
UKrulesOK1 4 days ago
fuck he needs a shower that sweaty bastard
Cleaver428 6 days ago
Ricky Gervais likes to play the enlightened thinker at times. He could not be more wrong about depression being something that only seems to hit over-privileged celebrities & not blue-collar workers. Depression hits both alike & neither should be dismissed on the basis of income. I do get the sardonic comic persona thing. It's hard to be sure what mode Ricky is in here; however, there is a time and place to play the "cynical prick" for laughs and talking about mental health issues isn't it.
looseSpark 1 week ago
I am well aware there are those who play the depression card for fame and attention but there are easily enough famous people who suffer from genuine depression that talking about it condescendingly in general terms is not a good idea. I'm quite sure those with depressive conditions, particularly bi-polar, are drawn to the performance arts for several reasons related to their condition and are probably over-represented in those professions.
looseSpark 1 week ago
Because some become successful (possibly driven in part by their mental health issues) they shouldn't have to feel they can't speak openly about it, especially if they feel it could help others.
looseSpark 1 week ago
@looseSpark He's not making fun of celebrities who have depression. He's making fun of celebrities who are telling everyone about it. Like he said, "Why are you calling your publicist before calling your doctor?"
lovemeordie83 1 week ago
@lovemeordie83 If so, I wish that came across more strongly. That comment comes up quite far into the video & he actually says it in relation to celebs who say they're addicted to sex, not depression. From the beginning he is targeting depressed celebs they are rich & privileged, and compares them with blue-collar workers who lack such. There really should be no distinction.
looseSpark 1 week ago
@looseSpark He targeted them for recieving that much attention for it, not the fact that they have it when they shouldn't because they're rich. Stephen Fry said it himself; mood disorders are more or less like the weather, it's not within human control. However, just as it should not be used as a punch-line to celebrity jokes, it shouldn't be used to gain more publicity. Both of them are insulting to the rest of those who have depression. G'day.
lovemeordie83 1 week ago
@lovemeordie83 Well I kind of agree with you there, but I have my doubts that there really are any celebrities that have done that. I think it's more likely a trope that has no basis in reality. I could be wrong though and would give consideration to any proof to the contrary. In any case, I suspect it more likely they might either just see the chance to talk about it as therapeutic or genuinely wish to raise awareness and lower stigma.
G'day to you also. :-)
looseSpark 1 week ago
@lovemeordie83 While the stigma is less than it was once, I don't think depression has made the crossover to career booster yet in the eyes of the general public or potential celeb employer (unlike alcohol/drug/sex addiction which has been for years).
looseSpark 1 week ago
@lovemeordie83 If you've watched Ricky for a while you'll know his humour is very sardonic & often he adopts a persona or view that is either not really what he actually believes or is exaggerated for comic effect. I get that. In many cases, it's amusing but, in this case I feel, misguided. It gave out the wrong message.
looseSpark 1 week ago
@lovemeordie83 If he meant something different, I'm not sure everyone will get it. I'd much rather depression be explained and understood for what it is than be an opportunity to have a quick giggle about the excesses of celebrity.
Cheers.
looseSpark 1 week ago
*cough* Russell Brand *cough*
OBJ2K9 2 weeks ago
right on the money ricky
thyago81 2 weeks ago
"I'm addicted to sex.."
"Not a problem. Not a problem. Why are you telling me this?"
clokverkorange 2 weeks ago
This man is a fucking genius. I'm laughing at the muted video.
GamerDudester 2 weeks ago
Russell Brand!
brightlights456X 3 weeks ago
yeah, this reminds me o Amy Winehouse, when she turned out dead some people were all like "poor thing"...poor thing? she made fucking millions every month, didn't have to work on a shitty ass job like 90% of the world she has every fucking thing in the world she needs and you pity her? if i started doing drugs right now my family would beat the shit out of me telling me my life is way too good for me to try and escape all with drugs and shit, and you know what, it really is
so fuck that shit
felphero 4 weeks ago 7
@felphero She had no-one to help her escape. Hate attention seeking celebrities all you want but when you turn that into some irrational hatred of a talented woman who suffered with addiction and ultimately died a very shitty lonely death.
Your so full of hate you can't tell the difference between those in the public eye who have clawed with desperation to get their and those that never fitted that mould or enjoyed being a 'celebrity'. Like you said people would help you, she was beyond that.
gardner900 2 weeks ago
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Gacka12 1 week ago
referring to Russell??
jyt109 1 month ago
Somebody should cast Rickey as a vampire.
SirGriefALot 1 month ago
haha brilliant. I love how Ricky turned the power of celebrity and made them objects of mockery.
4duff5 1 month ago
@4duff5 they make themselves objects of mockery
unholychunk 3 weeks ago
Steven Merchant and Karl Pilkington disliked this 37 times
kiepoolies 1 month ago
@kiepoolies those two are pretty well off too
skks666 1 month ago
ricky should realise that with depresstion you cant snap out of it
bensimps123 2 months ago
@bensimps123 loser
hitmenow 2 months ago
@bensimps123
*sigh* His point is the celebs who phone Hello and The Sun saying they are depressed get a two page spread, and 50 quid. When their are people who struggle alone with out the papers, or fans sending them nice cards.
LickMyComment 2 months ago 5
@LickMyComment Can you name a celeb that has actually done that? (They may be one but I don't buy or read those publications)
looseSpark 1 week ago
Press 4-7 to hear Ricky say "Atheist".
riberbentsen 2 months ago 27
@riberbentsen Wrong.
L0ST1231 3 weeks ago
Saying it like it is.
DoctorKandosii 2 months ago
Press 2, 3, 4 to hear Ricky say "Thinga ding oh hated"
milkenobi 2 months ago
I'm withdrawing from sex addiction. poor me
bigmarty11288 2 months ago
This is all about Russel Brand
raazs35 3 months ago
he's just amazing
cloudnine500 3 months ago
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lightandbeautiful 3 months ago
Brilliant.
TR5T 3 months ago
so true
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The whole thing about saying 'I've never been on heroin' gets nothing, but saying 'I used to do heroin, then I stopped' will get you loads of appreciation. It's so true.
Js5s141 4 months ago
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yea it's called encouragement.
Kai2oo6remix 3 months ago
My apologies to you, Ricky. I didn't mean to be so transparent. I know nothing.
jhardy133 4 months ago
God or not god ? Fk people you're missing the point thank god cz ur all to fkn vain to deserve to laugh
b3nd3r101010 4 months ago
oh please, do they really have ANY REASON to be depressed? They only have more money than they can ever spend, everything they ever wanted, and they are depressed? Give me a break.
nancy6ify 4 months ago
@nancy6ify You don't understand what depression is. Clinical depression is a serious issue, and you don't get over it by just "cheering up". But celeberties are people too, and I don't think they should print this bullcrap about them being depressed and doing drugs and other retarded shit. Let them ruin themselves, I don't have the slightest pity or interest in their personal life.
ploothable 4 months ago 4
for an atheist he really likes using the words "God" and "Jesus Christ" very often
souboulo 5 months ago
@souboulo I know, did he not read the rules?
GenericAndFictitious 5 months ago
@souboulo yeah, christians abstain from technology entirely, and decry science at every turn. that's why there aren't any nutjobs on the internet.
hjenkinz 5 months ago 3
@souboulo I do too
needusername12 5 months ago
@souboulo yes, it's called "way of speech"
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Eeptog... how do you know the way Satan looks?
mrlufernandovc 5 months ago 3
@mrlufernandovc Simple yet brilliant
yardley123 5 months ago
i swear, those teeth make him look like satan
Eeptog 5 months ago
that sexaddiction part made me lol so hard, not because its about seeex but because its just so true. I mean for real ?? Addicted so sex, howdowha...hahahahaha thats just so stupid. "Im addicted to sex' not a problem not a problem' shut up why are you telling me about it ?' why are you calling your publicist before you call a doctor, addicted to sex JESUS CHRIST!" XD hhahahahahaha
manwithouthat44 5 months ago
a video's just been released on youtube containing rare footage of amy winehouse's last words, so sad. search for 'amy winehouse's last words' on youtube, i'd post the link but this wouldn't let me.
Ryeangle 6 months ago
222,222 views what the hell!
crooksy123 6 months ago
Pretty much sums it up really nicely...
Porly62 6 months ago
Hear hear!
stinabeib 6 months ago
When I heard Amy Winehouse died, this clip immediately sprang to mind lol.
philipisphilip 6 months ago 2
He's funny and all, but some times he's just being a dumbass. Like right there.
"Oooh, I'm addicted to sex. Not a problem. Yes it is, stop being an idiot"
WlatPziupp 6 months ago
@WlatPziupp Agreed. He comes off as very pompous and ignorant here.
roma23rpm 6 months ago
We should just show every celebrity this video
purplenurps 6 months ago 42
This is how I feel about the entire world.
flamableproductions 6 months ago
He is resting on his laurels. ahahaha.
What presses my cider is when celebs talk about parenthood. WOW amazing, like normal people have no idea what thats about.
pilotmonkey 6 months ago
Why does he say Jesus Christ, and God when he's an Atheist - I think Ricky's a twat hypocrite.
Jez2008UK 6 months ago
@Jez2008UK so when you say "oh my god" you mean it seriously? most people use it as a joke
tompenno 6 months ago
@tompenno
Er.... I'm not sure how old you are, but I think you'll find that the people (for a simple easy example) who were there in New York when the planes crashed into the Twin Towers and they screamed "oh my God"..... I don't think you'll find that they were using it as a joke....
If Ricky is the Atheist he says he is, and doesn't believe in God etc etc, well, that truly does make him a gigantic hypocrite when he uses words like God and Jesus Christ.
Jez2008UK 6 months ago
@Jez2008UK i mean people use as a figure of speech in many situations, a joke being one of them, but i doubt many people use it seriously meaning "oh my god".
tompenno 6 months ago
@Jez2008UK hahaha your logic is impeccable, my god!
lucidl 6 months ago
@lucidl
Glad you think so, thanks !
Jez2008UK 6 months ago
@Jez2008UK ytou MUST be trolling. and he doesnt mean as a JOKE, but oh my god is an expression of surprise, not a prayer you fucking idiot
keir193 6 months ago
@keir193
Fingers brown are they ?
Jez2008UK 6 months ago
@Jez2008UK Er.. REALLY? Get a life! I'm an atheist and I believe there was a very good man (perhaps a little schizophrenic!) but a VERY good man who taught us how to live. And I live by Christian principles every day.
I just refuse to believe in something that lives somewhere up in the sky that football players pray to! so they can beat the crap out of the opposing team! I guess God must HATE the other team. God must be busy on weekends!!
ripcalwill 6 months ago
@ripcalwill HAHAHA you consider jesus's teachings moral and how you should your live?? Have you even read the bible?? He contradicts himself on many occasions for example when he wants his disciples to turn the other cheek but then says later to slay their enemies. His teachings weren't even original many of the things he said can be seen at earlier times in history. For example the teachings of Confucius. He also threatens people that don't believe in god with hell-fire.
ComputerGamerify 6 months ago
@ripcalwill Then is it not more accurate to describe yourself as someone who holds agnostic beliefs and and thus not an athiest personal view point?
8corporal 5 months ago
@Jez2008UK Not, no it does not make his statments hypocrytical at all becuase God and Jesus Christ are actually words and thus must be spoken in order to articulate them. I, too, am an athiest, but I vocally articulate words such as `god` and `jesus` and in the context that you describe above. If you, say, didn`t belive on the concept of a car or a shoe, does this then mean you could not speak the words?
8corporal 5 months ago
@Jez2008UK You don't have to believe in god to say "oh my god". I mean do you think people who say "my giddy aunt" have an aunty with vertigo? It's just an expression also saying "Jesus Christ" when your an athiest is not hypocritical even by your warped logic because most athiests believe in the existence of Jesus as I suspect Gervais does.
nathfrancis01 6 months ago
@Jez2008UK You don't have to believe in God or Jesus to say them, these words are common in our vocabulary now-days. Its compareable to saying "oh my", "oh my goodness". I don't believe in big foot but I I can still say it.
scarbadk 6 months ago
he's so ugly
intrumentaltracks 6 months ago
I love his fangs.
moonlily1 6 months ago 2
"I wish there was something I could do, but I lost my fingers." hahahaha
kamodaff 7 months ago
Class
captaincomputa 7 months ago
I thought he was a celebrity!
madelena1234 7 months ago
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there are a lot of clebs in the world that have BIG COCKS
BigBagsForRent 7 months ago
bit greesy eh??
MrChicago1978 7 months ago
He's right and it makes me thinkg that the celebrity lifestyle and the attention it garners is what attracts whinging losers in the first place while the tough, hardy people get on with real life.
SharksKid 7 months ago
So true about druggies being clean get a massive applause!
LordSamBob 7 months ago
he's right, fuck celebrities
ninearthify 7 months ago
never knew he had such vampire like teeth
jaffacec 7 months ago
like the end of extras just brilliant
hemant11becks 7 months ago
so true so true! Love it!!
NicolaMilanMusic 7 months ago
i wish i could favorite this video ... but ive lost my fingers
TheRealMcCloud 8 months ago 33
@TheRealMcCloud how was it that you typed this? possible good joke, doesn't work when you are typing........
1904jester 2 months ago
This dude always manages to make me laugh.
tuvman300 8 months ago 2
saying someone has a sex addiction is a nice way of saying they are a pervert
SXPandaPwnage 8 months ago 19
1:00 - LMAO!!!
23Tev 8 months ago
I love this guy , screw russell brand (no offence but you are funny but) , RICKY GERVAIS is the man.
woahXgirl94 8 months ago 4
GENIUS
DRphotographyUK 9 months ago 6
The voice of reason.....too bad politicians dont take the same course.
expostfactum 9 months ago
I love Ricky normally, but he needs to know that there's a difference between celebrity depression and the real thing. Kerry Catona and Amy Winehouse = spoilt bitchs. However real working class people do suffer from the real thing and it's not funny.
ticketyboooo 9 months ago
@ticketyboooo the point he makes is they do get depressed, but they get on with it rather than go to rehab and cry all day about it.
Pilky01Alright 9 months ago
@ticketyboooo ..Thats exactly the point Ricky was trying to make, he was saying that to imply that the celebs don't know how good they have it compared to those at the bottom of the ladder.
Dungarth 9 months ago 3
When people care and talk about charlie sheen, i think of this.
JTC545 9 months ago 4
Add to this...the "holly bloody royal marriage"...pathetic.
bahraouik 9 months ago
Wouldn't he make a great psychotherapist?
jhardy133 9 months ago 59
@jhardy133 take "the" out of that
IEXxILEDI 7 months ago
@jhardy133 Yes he would!
frederikation 6 months ago
@jhardy133 late reply : only if you removed the "psychothe"
DangerGuy10 5 months ago
@jhardy133 I don't know why but when I read 'psychotherapist' I read it like 'psycho the rapist'. LOL.
AdamRyanKirkwood 4 months ago in playlist Liked
@jhardy133 psycho the rapist? O.o
vatiz93 4 months ago
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@jhardy133 psycho the rapist? O.o
vatiz93 4 months ago
Cynic, but so he bloody should be
DisturbedRetards 10 months ago
I love how Ricky is so down to earth and has no pretentions about being a celebrity. I've got nothing but respect for him as his success is all self-made and he works harder than possibly any other celebrity.
wadehjb 10 months ago 7
I like him, specially his teeth haha
crinoss2 10 months ago
@crinoss2 Get out of your fucking dream World that everyone has perfectly, straight white teeth, your teeth lose colour due to food, drink and smoking, look at people in the US who are on TV and their teeth are fake veneers that have been bleached to the whitest of white, you probably think Bruno Mars' teeth are real....
2BarKawi 9 months ago
@2BarKawi thank you master, you know me very well (that´s sacasm)
I said I LIKE them.
Maybe your teeth are like Predator´s and you are offended ;-)
crinoss2 9 months ago
@crinoss2 No doubt, covered in plaque, eroding all over the shop, they are a dirty shade of Nelson Mandela, hate brushing the cunts, my gums bleed when I do so....
2BarKawi 9 months ago
I think he's talking about Russell Brand.
calumstarkey 10 months ago 144
Russel Brand, an unfunny bloke.
BeginnningoftheEnd 9 months ago
@calumstarkey hes pretty good friends with Brand...
jimmyPain2121 9 months ago
@jimmyPain2121 I know, but it doesn't stop him talking about him.
calumstarkey 9 months ago
@calumstarkey yea but why would they be friends with brand if he did all these things that pissed him off?
jimmyPain2121 9 months ago
@jimmyPain2121 Fine, you tell me another millionaire, English comedian who's depressed, has suffered from sex addiction and is a former heroin addict and alcoholic.
calumstarkey 9 months ago
@calumstarkey what? why the hell do they have to be english? or a comedian? a whining drug addicted celebrity is just a ubiquitous stereotype. idiot
jimmyPain2121 9 months ago
@jimmyPain2121
Well Ricky does actually make reference to a "depressed comedian" in this clip, yeah...
ultravioletx 8 months ago
@calumstarkey ha ha "suffered" from sex addiction, you pinko tool
fleamarket3000 9 months ago
@calumstarkey Among other people, but Russell can take it as well as dish it, so that's ok:)
emu314159 7 months ago
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ItsameAlex 7 months ago
@calumstarkey Get's the accent almost spot on at points aswel...
Irishandproudtobe 6 months ago
I would say Ricky should have his own talk show, then again he is too talented for that mediocre kind of work.
Statistic100 10 months ago
Ricky is connected, in the real sense
emosdieslow 10 months ago
1:25 onwards is Ricky Gervais' sex face....
devrup63 10 months ago
I love how people get annoyed with Ricky Gervais (granted I don't think the office or extras is funny but) when he is just being honest, he doesn't sugar coat reality and pretend to something he isn't. Sure he often comes off as a dick but thats because the truth can hurt sometimes.
goth1agw1omw 10 months ago
@goth1agw1omw .If you don't think The office or Extras is funny, you must be like one of the idiot Characters from The Office or Extras that Ricky ''The Genius '' Gervais has so cleverly Written, you fuckin idiot!
chezwahum 10 months ago
@chezwahum Calm down, I never said anything bad about The Office or Extras, I just said I don't like it. It's just personal preference. You're getting a little touchy about a TV show. I find Ricky Gervais as himself funny, just not those shows.
goth1agw1omw 10 months ago
The best thing about Ricky is he is extremely well grounded person!
buldhana 10 months ago
This guy annoys me, but he is bang on today
zelldot 10 months ago
Ricky's always a good does of cynicism. I love him!
pigdog425 10 months ago
lol rich celebs are depressed cuz they have run out of things to buy
vict0r1ous 10 months ago
Ricky is bi-winning.
xxxDutchRutgerxxx 10 months ago
Nice on Ricky.
kayozz13 10 months ago
Some people are depressed just because of the way their brain is; it has nothing to do with how much cash you have.
Mjhavok 10 months ago 4
@Mjhavok exactly! working class moms DO get depressed. he's misinformed.
and there are plenty of people who get into vices coz they are trying to combat some other less-obvious problem in their life, like loneliness. so they have had the guts to own up to it and try to deal with their problems. fine, lots of people do that without drugs. but once you DO get into it, its an ADDICTION (not weakness) so overcoming the odds IS impressive. that part was ok comedy, but not 'big think'.
AlanMathewPolson 10 months ago
@AlanMathewPolson He didn't say it in that context though. Everyone gets depressed, it's just that working mums etc. will deal with it a lot better than these very priviliged celebrities who spend all of their days getting attention off it, and then making tv shows showing their "comeback" to "normal" life.
steve98989 10 months ago
ricky's remarks are insensitive. thus they dont get said. which is why he said them.
he makes his living saying uncommon things. this time it was stuipid.
People get into drugs for reasons other than that they are spoiled rich kids. depression is one of them
people undergoing rehab are essentially fighting their own bodies. they need all the encouragement they can get.
the no of 'celebs' who have it all together<no who need encouragement<<no who will be discouraged by remarks like the above.
AlanMathewPolson 10 months ago
@AlanMathewPolson What, you think these people who make millions from doing an easy-ish job are depressed? Go to a council estate and ask a single mother of 5 if she's got time to be depressed or take drugs to combat the depression. If she does, then you can call Ricky stupid, but until then, he's 100% right!
People get into drugs for stupid reasons, not to combat depression. I know three people who have been through depression and they didn't take any narcotics to make themselves happy!
TheRandyChimp 10 months ago
hardly what i think. it's what is statistically provable. fact of the matter is, it's easier to be a good mother than it is to be a good actor. one has nature and genes going for you. if you think acting is easy-ish, you are mis-informed.
its interesting to think that, given a fair number of real life examples, mr gervais would be willing to admit that he could have been more sensitive, but his fans will insist on thinking him infallible.
& fyi, your 3 friends are the lucky *few*. open your eyes
AlanMathewPolson 10 months ago
@AlanMathewPolson I'm on a media course, I work with people who are training to act. I've also met and spoken to professional actors and I've also acted in a few films and plays. Raising a child is NOT, repeat, fucking NOT easier than acting my friend! You're grossly misinformed and you're making a fool of yourself by saying something that stupid! I don't think everything gervais says is forgivable, but he's generally saying what we're all thinking and that's a good thing!
TheRandyChimp 10 months ago
@AlanMathewPolson Can I assume that you don't have children yourself? Can I also assume that you've never spent time with nephews or neices? I don't have kids, but I have 3 cousins and how their parents handle them, I don't know how they do it! Being an actor doesn't make someone depressed, they generally have issues, which is why they get into acting, to prove their issues are meaningless and harmless, but in reality, they're unhappy. Doesn't mean they should get special treatment!
TheRandyChimp 10 months ago
@TheRandyChimp i've seen enough broken families to know that children can be good or bad with or without good parenting. a performance is always better if the performer does better.
parenting is easier coz it's instinctive. a good actor may have to work against his instincts. has to feel things that he isn't feeling. when you're around family, you can expect them to understand you. at your job, you can't.
these are facts.
actors shouldn't get special treatment. just regular sensitivity.
AlanMathewPolson 10 months ago
@AlanMathewPolson Regular sensitivity yes, but when a crack user checks into rehab, theres not a big fuss. When a celebrity does it, there are newspapers, magazines, tv crews. It's all for that. They do it to boost their fame. You're deluded. Raising a child is a responsibility, acting isn't. You are clearly deluded. Being a parent is one of the hardest jobs there is and you don't get paid for it! Acting is one of the easiest jobs, since you dont have to be good (Matthew McConaughey for example)
TheRandyChimp 10 months ago
@TheRandyChimp actually you have to be good, or you won't have a very good career. also, you will note that while we put up with mediocre actors, the moment they go off the rails, we dump them. you can't force the public to like something. there's at least a free market for that. research the acting industry. it's not as easy as u think, to become famous 4 something good. rejection is a way of life for actors. its tough. its the people who have shown some talent who we try to get back on track.
AlanMathewPolson 10 months ago
@AlanMathewPolson I've already told you, I've worked with actors, I've spoken to actors, I've acted myself. We may not be fantastic, but we're competant. It's not our concern to get these people back on track. We idolize these people which makes them think they're superior to the rest of us. You aren't getting the damn point. Regular people get "depressed" after a bit of a binge or if they haven't had a project in a while, whilst regular, hard working folk just put up with it!
TheRandyChimp 10 months ago
@TheRandyChimp an actor IS a regular person. it is you who are thinking of them as different, not me.
it isn't the *public's* concern, it's the acting industry's. and if the industry want to film it, because people want to watch it, they have a right to that. you think anyone wants to have his low moments put up for the world to criticize? maybe they are the victims too? if you don't like it, don't tune in. they don't get paid. they get paid because they're watchable no one's cheating you.
AlanMathewPolson 10 months ago
@AlanMathewPolson What do you think the first thing is that certain famous people do once they've checked into rehab? Call their agent, get some coverage of the whole "event", boost their image for the people at home. "oooh, boo hoo hoo, i can't take it anymore, all this wealth and easy living, i might end it all!" Oh fucking end it all then! A lot of actors are decent hard working people, the people Ricky is talking about are the sponges who dont do anything but appear in magazines!
TheRandyChimp 10 months ago
@TheRandyChimp i certainly hope you don't believe wat you are saying. name these people you are talking about. charlie sheen? lindsay lohan? Britney spears? marilyn monroe? most people PUT UP wit the press. they don't seek it out. some people like the limelight, but they get burned by it, just the same. so it evens out. my point is, ricky gervais' comments, while entertaining, do more harm than good, because they fuel resentment for human beings who are trying to get by.
AlanMathewPolson 10 months ago
@AlanMathewPolson The people he's talking about are trying to get by from sponging off the people who buy gossip magazines. Hell, some people are paid by the magazines to appear, so the public can gawp at them and go "oooh, aren't they rich!" It's pathetic.
People trying to get by doesn't apply to people in fame and fortune. Getting by is when you work 9 hours in a factory warehouse. Getting by is mopping the floors in a shithole. Getting by is gaining minimum wage for working hard.
TheRandyChimp 10 months ago
@TheRandyChimp refer to my statement on debt.. etc...
AlanMathewPolson 10 months ago
@AlanMathewPolson Look at it like this: Ian Mckellen, one of the finest living actors alive today, amazing roles, brings complete credibility to productions he works on. How many times has he gone on record and said "oooh, love me, I'm so depressed, I need drugs!" Same with, say, Johnny Depp, Leonardo Dicaprio, Colin Firth, Helena Bonham Carter, Helen Mirren, etc etc. Now, look at Lindsay Lohan, Katie Price, Paris Hilton. What are their "skills"? What do they bring to the world?
TheRandyChimp 10 months ago
@TheRandyChimp agreed, younger single celebs act like normal people would, and dance in the limelight. but when they get burned, the press destroys them. they don't need influential people like mr gervais attacking them as well. the people you mentioned ARE famous. you'll find they don't enjoy it as much as you think they do. many are in debt. they are hounded by fashion police. its a whole different ballgame, when the street is your workplace.
AlanMathewPolson 10 months ago
@AlanMathewPolson But you don't get this at all. Look at Charlie Sheen for example. He's more famous now than he has been for 20 years! He's been extremely clever in the past month or two, he's used the "scandal" as a boost. You're not getting what I'm talking about at all. I've detailed my points clearly over the past few messages and you're still ignoring them, so I'm not going to bother anymore. You're defending people who don't need defending.
TheRandyChimp 10 months ago
@TheRandyChimp aside from the outlandish figures of speech he uses, if you analyse what he's being trying to say, it is this: leave me alone, stop judging me.
you speak as if more fame is a good thing. in this case, mr sheen has stated that he could do without it. most drug doers are happy they don't have the fame he does, so stop acting like he wants it. he chose to come out and give the media the finger, saying, 'i dont care what you think' the media abused him for it, and u ate it up.
AlanMathewPolson 10 months ago
@AlanMathewPolson Yeah, real abuse, which is why his phrases are trending on twitter, where he got 1 million followers in a day! He's having a real tough time with it. You're such a moron, I've had enough of this, just stop now, okay. I'm done, I yield, you won't listen to reason, you won't acknowledge things that have been proven. I'm just done. This is like talking to someone about religion!
TheRandyChimp 10 months ago
@TheRandyChimp i havnt heard any factual statements from you. just the usual false assumptions that people have about celebrities with a bit of random troll behaviour thrown in. if you don't understand the difference between fame and notoriety, press and paparazzi, publicity and violation... if you can't see the other person's point of view, then you will naturally feel like you aren't making any sense, because you aren't trying to speak, you're trying to tell, and cant stand being wrong.
AlanMathewPolson 10 months ago
@AlanMathewPolson 1. Certain famous people are paid to appear in publications such as Heat. It boosts their profile and then they fake a whinge. 2. People who are famous don't have it as hard as people who are poor. 3. Drugs are optional, if they're stupid enough to take them when they're being watched by the media, it's their own fault and they should own up, like Sheen did. 4. You're a fucking idiot.
I think those are all factual statements.
TheRandyChimp 10 months ago
@TheRandyChimp So now you agree that Sheen did right?
Craig Fergeson said it better than ricky on this subject.
Keep in mind that actors go through Hell to get a break, and they continue to go through it all their lives. as James Lipton says, they experience rejection every day.
that's why they get paid so highly.
drugs arent associated with performers by chance. they're often a necessity more than a privilege.
again with the troll behaviour. not very used to rational argument, are u?
AlanMathewPolson 10 months ago
@AlanMathewPolson Drugs are never for necessity. Necessity implies that you require something to live. Water's a necessity. Sustanance is a necessity. Drugs aren't a necessity, you don't die if you don't have drugs! You want to talk rejection? We're in a recession. The amount of job loss is ridiculous. I think Sheen used the occurence to his advantage, and has succeeded.
Again with calling me a troll. What, you have to rationalise someone with the opposite opinion by labelling me as a troll?
TheRandyChimp 10 months ago
@TheRandyChimp it is my sincere opinion that as you spend more time with actors 'in fame and out', you will realize that what you percieve to be a silver lining hoards a very dark cloud within. the amount of pressure they undergo, the rocky showbiz families they come from, all make the drug question a bit different than 4 an avg middle-class fly for whom getting through the day doesnt involve millions of dollars.
that said, i don't judge you 4 having an opinion. have a fun life and a better day.
AlanMathewPolson 10 months ago
@AlanMathewPolson as for the troll comment, I'm not a troll, trolls start arguments to cause grief. I actually believe what I'm saying. I've talked to people about it before. If I was a troll, i'd just be calling you gay in every comment!
Also, if you thought I was a troll, why did you respond to my comment? Nothing like pouring petrol on the fire!
TheRandyChimp 10 months ago
@TheRandyChimp i said your beaviour was troll-like, not that u were a troll. it's like calling someone foolish, vs calling them a fool. big difference.
and yes, if you analyse some of the random insults you trew in, wen this clearly wasn't a 'yo mama' conversation, you'll realize that your behaviour was distinctively of the 'sadistically causing grief' kind. i don't hold it against u, just thougt you ought to have it pointed out, for self-improvement purposes.
AlanMathewPolson 10 months ago