Ad Orientem - Benedict XVI

[paulohenrique2222]

Acho que ficaria satisfeito se as missas voltassem a ser celebradas "ad orientem", a exemplo do Sumo POntifice, que abriu caminho a reorganização da missa e a consequente volta da tradição de respeito aos simbolos da Igreja Milenar!!

[leopictor]

wish people wouldn't take the pall of the chalice at that point. it's too early!

[MsCampobasso]

Next time may we witness him speaking the universal language of the Church, Latin.

And all those disobedient to the Holy Father, who continue to refuse the Extraordinary (Traditional Latin Mass) in the churches..OUR churches...you will pay for your disobedience! Receive Our Lord on the Tongue while kneeling for Communion. NO priest, No one can refuse you. They may try But thye know they MUST NOT Refuse! Stand up for your rights..Better to attend the Latin Holy Mass nearest you!

[henrikhankhagnell]

this man is really great. we need ad orientem and the bible speaks about it as the way.

[luvpinas123]

Sistine Chapel!

[wjweigand]

Here's a man who refers to the patriarchs of the schismatic orthodox churches as Bishops... a man who prays in synogogues and mosques with Jews and Muslems.... a man who calles the Anglican head a leader of Christs Church ... says that Lutheran leaders are a part of the mission of preaching the Gospel... and you people think he is still Catholic???

[AgentSAMa]

@wjweigand The Patriarchs of the Orthodox Churches all have valid apostolic succession. For example, the Patriarch of Constantinople traces his episcopate back to the Throne of St. Andrew.

And are they not all brothers in Christ, preaching the Good News of Christ as God and Christ as Savior? And for the Jews and Muslims, are they not brothers in God, professing belief in the God of Abraham?

[wjweigand]

@AgentSAMa ... no they are not, Jesuse established only ONE Church.

[AgentSAMa]

@wjweigand This is true. Jesus (no e at the end) did establish One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. However, the Orthodox still have valid apostolic succession, as history attests (and hope remains of unity with them). And even Protestants preach truth, the truth of Jesus Christ as God and Savior (albeit the only things they teach which are true are beliefs they merely share with the Catholic faith.)

And the fact remains that Jews and Muslims are our brothers in the God of Abraham.

[wjweigand]

@AgentSAMa .... The Jews and Muslems reject Jesus. The Orthodox reject the Papacy and some of them allow divorce and remarraige. The Protestants reject all but two of the Sacraments. Ever heard of anathemas? The rejection of even ONE dogma is a rejection of the faith of Jesus and a ticket to eternal damnation.

[AgentSAMa]

@wjweigand And yet you reject Pope Benedict XVI with your comments. Don't give me that sedevacantist crap. IThat's all nonsense. You still have not refuted my points. All that you have said is true, but it is not in contradiction to what I have said. I have not implied that those outside the Church will receive salvation, only bringing up the points that you so ignored.

Why do I even waste my time arguing on the internet? On YouTube? Why do YOU waste your time arguing on the internet?

[AgentSAMa]

@wjweigand And at the very least, pray for them. In your case, you may be able to pray for their conversion to the Catholic faith. And in the case of the Orthodox, can you at least pray for reunion? There still remains hope of ecumenical unity with them, even if it is not obvious.

[wjweigand]

@AgentSAMa ... Of course we should pray for their conversion to the Catholic faith. It's their only hope for salvation. The Vatican II Church doesn't believe that. The Catholic Church on the other hand has always taught that outside the Catholic Church there is NO Salvation.

[AgentSAMa]

@wjweigand I will admit that I've attended some pretty bad masses by some not-so-good priests. However, hold hope in the Church. I've seen that today's young priests are not interested in the improvisation and liturgical "innovations" of many immediate-post-Vatican II priests. Instead, they are driven by the call to Tradition, enthusiastic about the Pope's call of the reform of the "reform."

Why do you add ellipses at the beginning of each of your comments? You're wasting space with those.

[AndreasAntoniusMaria]

I prefer the Tridentine mass, but this is not very bad either. For comparisons sake look at my account. I have uploaded 2 Tridentine Masses from the St. Agneskerk Amsterdam Holland. Served by the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP), a group in full communion with the Holy See (Pope).

[iluvtatsi]

:) Pope Benedict is Truly a Traditionalist!

[wjweigand]

@iluvtatsi .... no... he is truly a Modernist heretic

[assasincomedy]

@wjweigand According to who? Your favourite website? Let me guess, 'Most Holy Family Monastery'? Your argument is invalid, Jesus promised a visible Church. Saying that all Popes since John XXIII were heretics is absolutely ridiculous. It contradicts doctrines of the Church.

[wjweigand]

NO... he is truly a Modernist

[AgentSAMa]

@wjweigand And yet here you see him ad orientem. I mean come on.

[wjweigand]

@AgentSAMa ... you are way to easily decieved

[AgentSAMa]

@wjweigand And you're making accusations over the internet. ...[I mean come on.]

[limalaister]

Oh my gosh, the Sistine Chapel. I was there but was only able to snap a quick shot before being stopped by a guard lol. Absolutely beautiful...

[pavs3737]

Vivat Petrus!

[IMPERIUMMEX]

Little by little the church will be clean and the true mass of the roman rite will be restore

[Symphony2DX]

@IMPERIUMMEX i'm pretty sure that this is the mass we currently use, just said ad orientem.

[TenderTrap86]

It should also be duly noted what the good pope had done for NO masses done versus populum with the "Benedictine" altar arrangement. It really changes the "orientation" of the mass. The focus on the priest, himself, is removed. That arrangement is popping up in parishes all over the world because of Peter's example. Long live the Roman Pontiff!

[dialyt55]

Ad orientem - it's the eternal way forward. How I long to see this in every parish.

[dialyt55]

Ad orientem - it's the eternal way forward! How I long to see this in every parish. So easy it would be to do it. Let us pray that it comes about.

[AnotherAppleMacbook]

God bless pope Benedict XVI! He truly cares about tradition!

[judithsteinhoff]

Long live Pope Benedict XVI!

[JPGiardina]

God bless you and grant you many more years as our Pope.

[piscatorTV]

Good video, good news!

[AnciaodoJornadas]

The own Pius X, was clear that no Ecumenical Council could be denied. So, the Vatican II must be obeyed, under guilt of schism.

The mass of Pius V was valid until another pope authorize another rite. The papal authority cannot overlap the authority of the sucessors.

[irolga1]

um caminho importante para implementar a missa de são pio v.

[lithopoonwit]

The Catholic Bishops on the Vatican 2 Council were set under a scandalous pressure, from apostate radicals, loading them with feelings of guilt about the past, and pressing them to go along with the modernist revolution. KGB agents were present to see that Communism was NOT condemned by the Catholic bishops. Communism not condemned? it has destroyed almost entire Christian orthodoxy in Russia, and not a word about that on a Council of the Catholic Church? insane.

[lithopoonwit]

Mgr. Lefebvre,a very modest,and holy Catholic Bishop had worked incessantly on the original scheme's,which were very Catholic,only to found at the first day in Rome,that these scheme's had all disappeared, and the new arrived Bishops were left with no preparation whatsoever.Then some sinister group brought in the new modernist scheme's, and the Bishops,left with nothing else went with those. This is how the pressure on the Bishops started. It would soon get much worse, as the Council proceeded.

[lithopoonwit]

Therefore we can safely conclude that this Vat2 Council was not an infallible Council of the Church, but instead it was a Coup D'Etat of Freemasons,Communists, and Christian apostates. Pope John XXIII was a member of Freemasonry, and thus not Papable, and when he died at the very beginning of this Council, the Bishops had to cancel it. All the preparatory work had been mysteriously vanished, and new radical modernist scheme's lay as a "replacement" ready for the naive ignorant Bishops to follow.

[oblatusosb]

@lithopoonwit You are talking nonsense; all councils of the R.C.C are infallible, you cant make distinctions just becasue you dont agree with their decisions, and your accusation against Pope John XXIII is just plain stupid, you have no documents or proofs; it's a sin to say things like that. Gard your toungue from evil my friend.

[lithopoonwit]

@oblatusosb it's a major sin to destroy the liturgy of Pope st.Pius V, as he stated clearly in his "Quo Primum",19 july 1570, that this holy liturgy cannot be revoked by no one,even if he should be Pope. It is to remain for the entire Christian world for all times.

[oblatusosb]

@lithopoonwit The Roman Pontiff, as the successor of Peter, is the perpetual and visible principle and foundation of unity of both the bishops and of the faithful.

LUMEN GENTIUM, 23

Your accusations about John XXIII are just nonsense. A Council is infallible, no matter what your wishiful thinking is.

[lithopoonwit]

A Council that has apparently resulted in such massive destruction, can not be of the Holy Spirit, since God, the Holy Spirit will never allow confusion and error in the real Catholic and holy Church. The Holy Spirit will never allow the one Church to be split apart, and to be confused over as how to interpret the texts of the Council. These texts must be clear for all, without any doubt about the truth.

[Alzazyel]

que viva la revolucion Jesus es pobre y es Rey

[gypsytutu]

Thank you so much for posting and for those of you reading, please tyr to seek out a traditional Latin Mass in your area--you won't be sorry. I went back and for to Novus Ordo Masses and the wonderful Extraordinary Masses for more than 10 years, and now I would never go back to "new English" Mass!

[TenderTrap86]

A priest who's oreintation towards God, whether by Benedictine arrangement or ad orientam, is very necessary.

[slikdudelb]

So incredibly beautiful - beyond words. Perfect. And the Holy Father - around 80 - genuflects. He is a hero of the Catholic faith. And I attend an Episcopal Church. Someone like Papa Ratzinger makes me think to reconsider.

[angelsnugget]

@slikdudelb Don't reconsider. We attend an anglo-catholic church. And I find it even more beautiful at times.

[kandalfsabayon]

@slikdudelb Come back, brother.

[VictorLepanto]

I pray for the day this proper custom should be returned to the whole church. The priest goes from amongst the people & offers the prayers of the faithful to God. He also leads them in the act of worship. He is like Aaron & his sons going into the temple.

I have read Benedict XVI on this, he very committed to this issue. He is afraid of a rapid change causing confusion & scandal. He shouldn't be so.

[PapaPiusIX]

the idea that the priest standing facing the congregation during the celebration of mass is ..... nowhere to be found in the literary sources before the time of Martin Luther and nor can the archaeological evidence be called in support of this conception

[VictorLepanto]

PPIX, I think you are mistaken. The priest did face the congregation on some occasions, even b/f the Council of Trent. I read an excellent history of pre-protestant church practice in England (The Stripping of the Alters, by Eaman Duffy). He said that sometimes it was done in small masses in side chapels, away from the main alter.

[PapaPiusIX]

priest standing facing the congregation during the celebration of mass is Protestantism not catholic

[VictorLepanto]

Well, as Prots don't have priests that can't be so. But it is true, even in Medieval times, it was sometimes done to have the priest face the congregation. My understanding is that it had to do w/ the distinction between a high & low alter. A church is supposed to face on the East - West axis w/ the alter facing West. That is the direction from which Christ will come at the end of time. It is about facing Christ. If the alter doesn't face East, it doesn't matter so much.

[lithopoonwit]

Facing congregation is a Papal privilege. But Mass should be Tridentine. Novus ordo masses and novus ordo priests are not 100% sure valid, therefore should be avoided by all catholics, at all times, in attending novus ordo "mass" one is risking grave sin.

[frjimt9455]

who died and left you pope?

you are endangering your own soul taking the keys of Peter and trying to fit them into your own lock box

[lithopoonwit]

@frjimt9455 Holy Pope Pius V had set the tridentine Mass form for the entire christian world for ALL times, and that never no one even he 'd be Pope should try to change it, on the risk of drawing revenge of Almighty God and the Holy Apostle's st.Peter and st.Paul. 19 july 1570.

[frjimt9455]

and so we're frozen in time?

[lithopoonwit]

@frjimt9455 no pope should change this,the eternal Mass. Pope has his power to sustain tradition and christian teaching. vatican 2 broke entirely with catholic tradition, that is why it was bad. Church is almost destroyed because of that council.

[mindspring57]

If the "eternal Mass" cannot be changed, then by what authority did Pius V act in 1570? What was the church doing before that time?

[wissamlahham]

Pope Benedict is truly a blessing for the whole Church.

[Saidalsahafi]

can someone translate what the guy is saying pls

[Bouncybon]

These are the most sacred words of the Mass which Pope Benedict is saying in Italian on this occasion. He is a good and holy man - an outstanding professor of Christian theology. Perhaps you could show a little respect.

[TheEcumenator]

I can't see how people can acuse this pope of being modernist after Summorum Pontificum

[DustBallBigD]

How about, in the Holy Mass, when you're talking to God, face God, when you're talking to the people, face the people. How much sense does that make?

[forestking19]

A lot... you dont talk with a person while the two of you are facing the same direction. you have to face each other. this is very logical.

[littlepebble2]

Pope Benedict XVI !

The Second apparition of Mother Mary continue at Akita in Japan now. She revealed Her title to us. That is "Corredemptrix, Omnium gratiarum Mediatrix" ( "Co-Redemptrix,Mediatrix of all graces" )

God wants you to proclaim that "Mother Mary is Co-Redemptrix and Mediatrix of all graces"as dogma.

[FRANCOISDASSISE]

SUPERBE ADMIRABLE BENOIT XVI

[Latin0077]

The Roman Missal presumes that the Ad Orientem can and will be said along with the Ad Populum side by side. Just read the little red words. God Bless Pope Benedict XVI

[Paperclip567]

This Mass was celebrated in the Sistine Chapel, which faces West rather than East, so it isn't correct to say His Holiness celebrated Mass "ad orientem" here even though his back is to the people. Symbolically it would have been more meaningful for him to have faced east here, towards the people and the rising sun, since Christ is the Light of the World. That's why I think all churches should have been built this way round, so the celebrants faces east and faces the people at the same time.

[VersaillesLaNuit]

For the longest time, in the Roman tradition, it was exactly like that.

[Dauphin35]

You're missing the point. It's about the "liturgical east" - everyone facing in a common direction towards the crucifix, to make it clear that the sacrifice and prayer is directed towards God alone, and to avoid an "enclosed circle" in which the community worships itself.

This is an idea which the Pope himself has championed.

[av3rRageGameName]

amen! people miss the point. for nearly 2000 years when churches build alters this it was very vital and symbolic for the people AND the priest to face the tabernacle and the crucifix. when you raise the sacred host in consecration, toward the people and not the cross, you are kinda 'turning your back and showing it to christ'

[Jacobitess]

I know! I have to close my eyes during the Novus Ordo so I can properly visualize (a thing necessary for me in meditation) the priest offering the Sacrifice to God. If I look, I'm only seeing the back of the cross...in my head of course, as most modern altars lack the crucifix that Pope Paul VI *did* want to remain on the altar.

[marahbadrian]

In this case, the pope use the interpretation of "east" as "liturgical east", facing the Lord,in the chapel symbolised by the big crucifix.

[wjweigand]

With heavy emphasis on the sylable "Con" as in con job...

[GuRiRu]

You obviously don't know what you're talking about. Man, when will Anglos stop thinking that they know any Latin. The word CON means "together". Oh, but you didnt' know that because you are nothing but an Anti-Catholic bigot. Idiota.

[wjweigand]

Why is the the other guy saying the words of Consecration? Seems like yet another novelty.

[starchyp92]

Concelebration.

[SETSUNA8989]

??????????????la la kayong kwenta!

[13mns]

This video proves Pope Benedict wants to reverse the reforms of Vatican II and return to the 1940s. This pope is badly out of touch with the modern world, and the need of the church to spread the Good News to modern man. Christ would be disappointed.

[forestking19]

The pope does not intend to reverse the reforms of Vatican II. He is leading us to the way the Council intended us to go. Speaking of the liturgy of the mass, the council did not say anything about Mass entirely facing the people. The Order of the Mass (see the sacramentary) prescribes when the priest has to face the people for he is supposed to face the altar most of the time. At mass, the priest should be there leading us to face God as we pray - Mass ad Orientem.

[joshshintaku]

ottaviani envisioned that this was the way that the novus ordo was to be celebrated......things like latin, ad orientem, communion in the hand were taken for granted.

ottaviani still had a problem with the mass texts...

[papsttreu]

Is there any good literature as to why we even had this liturgical reform?

And, are you suggesting that the priest in the ordinary form always facing ad populum is actually an abuse?

[forestking19]

The best document that you should refer to is the Vatican II Constitution on the Liturgy itself and the Order of the Mass of the Ordinary form of the Roman Rite. You have to read these documents in the context of the ending tradition of the church.

Mass in the ordinary form celebrated versus populum an abuse? I believe it is. The church, east and west, never celebrated mass facing the people just for the pure reason of facing the people. This never was the tradition.

[forestking19]

i mean unending tradition not "ending tradition"

[papsttreu]

Doesn't the new Missal give the option of either facing the people or the high altar?

I mean how come almost every priest does it that way?

[forestking19]

The rubrics of the mass do not provide for the option to face the people in the entire mass. There are only parts of the mass when the priest faces the people and it is specified in the rubrics or instruction written in red in the Missal.

Only a post conciliar instruction allowed for the versus populum option, not Vatican II.

[marahbadrian]

The rubrics for the Pauline missal actually presupposes the mass is celebrated ad-orientem, all facing the Lord, including the priest and everyone else

[forestking19]

i totally agree with you. God bless.

[ThanksSaintJoseph]

Christ would be disappointed?The ad orientem posture is an ancient tradition rich in meaning & is applicable to the Novus Ordo(NO).There are 2 parts of the NO Mass,Liturgy of the Word,when God speaks to us & Liturgy of the Eucharist when the priest acts in Persona Christi,offering the Christ's Sacrifice on our behalf to the Father.The prayer is directed to God & therefore we face the East where the sun(a symbol Christ the light of the world)comes to us.What does facing the West express?

[13mns]

Justin Martyr describes Christian Worship in a house church around 140 ad. The latin mumbo jumbo, praying to the wall, silly vestments, gold vessels, adoration of the Eucharist, propagandistic art and baroque choreography of the tridentine mass were never part of Ancient Tradition. They are a Medieval Invention. Lets purge superstition and magic from the Faith. Down with quackery.

God is more impressed by people walking in

THE WAY than theatrics.

[ThanksSaintJoseph]

In 140 the Faith was illegal.Would things have been different if they could have been?Maybe not,but since as soon as the Faith was legal grand churches were built & great traditions were apparent I think so. Many things that have come about in recent years are devoid of meaning or contrary to the reality of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, or powerful/meaningful traditions are done away with and replaced with NOTHING (like head veils for women)? The "theatrics" enlighten minds to follow the way!

[rcarnes1988]

@13mns Adoration or the Eucharist ??? Medieval invention Magic from the faith ???????? Are you saying that Christ is NOT present in the Blessed Sacrament????

[rcarnes1988]

@13mns um no, plus do you know that Priest sign an oath when they come into Holy Orders against Modernism Per Pope St Pius X.

[GuRiRu]

nice, it looks good to use the actual altar that is attached to the wall than for them to pull out the exta one. It highlighs the beauty of the chapel.

[theblob34]

glad the kids escaped the rape squad

[dfxlr]

it would've been awesome if he did it in Latin...

[belltownboy2012]

Actually, he did revive the old Latin Mass about a year ago.

[Azarien]

But he never celebrated the old mass since he became the pope, at least in public.

[ddmiller4]

it would also be awesome if he stopped worshipping in Jewish Synagogues. It saddens me to see anyone sin against the First Commandment.

[SETSUNA8989]

also...it will true!

[lichtbroeder]

"it would also be awesome if he stopped worshipping in Jewish Synagogues. It saddens me to see anyone sin against the First Commandment."

1st Commandment: I am the Lord Thy God; thou shalt not have other Gods before me." So the Pope has broken this Jewish/Christian commandment by worshipping our mutual God the Father in a Jewish place of worship, even as Jesus did? Latin and the old Mass, YES! Ignorance, NO!

[scout66250]

How long have you been having these delusions????

[Boerenfox]

The Roman Catholic Church considers the Eastern Churches (the Orthodox Churches) as a true sister-church. The Roman-Catholics and the Orthodox together form the two lungs of the Church, so stated the Pope.

[DanVilAl]

Sadly it seems that the reverse is not true.

[MicheleAlisonSmith]

this is worth watching

[dbouffard25]

Wouldn't it be great if the Pope would celebrate the trad mass publicly, as he did to great effect several times as Cardinal Ratzinger?

[Redxxt]

He will in time

[wjweigand]

Why would that be so great?... He still believes that heretical sects and even apostate religions are guided by the holy spirit per Nostre Atate. Even if he did perform the Bugninized 1962 Missa, it would be only to appease the neo-Con Ewtn crowd.

[rcarnes1988]

@wjweigand hmm Liberal Are we?

[meiguoren777]

I was looking for a part of this mass that our Holy Father celebrated. Thank you!!! It's beautiful!!!