Le Roi Danse

[beijingcentro]

Even with all the pomp- nothing can match those of the Chinese Emperor and Empress grandeur. The French knows absolutely nothing about being Imperial.

[alentejaneiro]

Une scène mal fichue (la seule du film, je trouve) car trop caricaturale et pleine de raccourcis et d'erreurs (Molière toussait-il déjà lorsque le roi arrêta de danser ? -- à trente ans -- J'en doute). Dommage car les décors(le splendide bosquet de la salle de bal superbement restauré), les costumes et la musique sont époustouflants.

[spinoza1111]

At this point, I shall leave this page and not comment in order to make room for more constructive comments such as that by LaBelleDanse. At the same time, I make no apology for the truth.

[LeTampinateur]

@spinoza1111 Bravo, piantala.

[jplully]

Thanks for the upload !

[Anibaal]

qué película es? y cómo es su nombre

[artgo2000]

Le Roi Danse, The king is dancing, "El rey baila". La encuentras en amazon

[Anibaal]

Hola, gracias, estaba viendo en el ARES. Amazon, ¿no es para comprar?

[AnotherCuppaCoffee]

So this is where white people learned to dance? Great music, stifling world, stifling art. Fascist ritual. Thank God for the French Revolution.

[GalazanCat]

Fascist ritual? XD Learn history, baby, there is a great cronologycal contradictation.

But yes: vive la revolution!

[cazonetta]

Fascist ritual? Uh, what?

Please do as GalazanCat kindly suggested. It's strongly recommended!

[plibby77]

You probably know very little about history to make such an ignorant statement as that.

[gueropalma1990]

red pig...

[djsmurfie]

Fascist ritual? Pray tell, how does BALLET have any relation to fascism? Whilst only complete and utter morons venerate the French Revolution - go away philistine.

Amusing how you 'praise' the music (created to accentuate the majesty of the KING and ancien regime) and then praise the philistine revolution of Robespierre.

[spinoza1111]

@djsmurfie We do praise Robespierre and St Juste and the immortal Danton, for while this music is beautiful life was unendurable for 99% of the people of Louis' time. Say what you like they changed everything. "You may now scatter our limbs to the four winds! Republics will rise from them!" We can listen to this music in public concerts and on Youtube because of what they did. I for one do NOT wish to see what they did undone.

[djsmurfie]

@spinoza1111 I'm not going to have a history debate with some naive muppet on youtube.

[spinoza1111]

@djsmurfie Yeah, you'll lose. And to the muppet, we're all muppets, for when turd calls to turd, and non-turd replies, turd is at a loss. Good-bye, puke face.

[djsmurfie]

@spinoza1111 After all that excitement you better sit down and have some sugary tea.

[spinoza1111]

@djsmurfie It wasn't Fascist in the 17th century. But to bring it back is Fascism. Petain and Laval tried: and they rounded up the Jews, put them in the Paris Velodrome without sanitary facilities or water, and then in transit camps from which they were sent to Poland and killed. All in the name of defending the sacred French culture including Lully, who despite his brilliance, isn't worth the bones of one Jewish kid!

[djsmurfie]

@spinoza1111 Any retard in the world can have an audience thanks to the internet: now is your time to shine. Anachronistically impute fascism onto 17th century French baroque music: you're fooling no one but yourself. 

[spinoza1111]

@djsmurfie Yeah and any retardo can flunk reading comprehension in public, asshole. Reread the first sentence ("it wasn't Fascist in the 17th century"). Do you even know what I mean by the 17th century? It was the years 1600-1700, jerk. I go on to say that TO BRING IT BACK is Fascism, something responsible conservatives like TS Eliot and William F Buckley have said. What the fuck are you, some sort of substitute teacher *cum* football coach? Asshole. If I were your father, I'd kick your ass.

[djsmurfie]

@spinoza1111 It wasn't fascist in the 17th century and it isn't fascist now you fuckin' retard. How about you actually read some intellectual history? Oh gee, I don't know, what about some actual [fascist] scholars like Michael Mann or Roger Griffin? I swear, I get sick to my fuckin' teeth talking to such morons on the internet.

[spinoza1111]

@djsmurfie You need to get a clue. In France, government intervention (from the Left or Right depending on who's in power) tends to preserve favored old forms. This creates institutions which judge artists. Prior to 1789 advancement depending on kissing aristocratic ass. Under the slogan "La carrière ouverte aux talents", the MEN of the Revolution created the very idea of objective standards but these also produced artistic conservatism. This createted the Fascist idea of the *vielle* France.

[djsmurfie]

@spinoza1111 I think mighty 'Spinoza' can stop touching himself now that he's managed to sputter forth a long list of platitudes: patronage didn't exist succeeding the French Revolution (ha!); that a bunch of political revolutionaries redefined concepts of art & beauty (oh shit, Spinoza, you better tell Isaiah Berlin and other intellectual historians - Herder, Schiller, Schlegal? Nah, it was all Danton and Robespierre, apparently; what an utter retard). Try harder to look smart old man.

[spinoza1111]

@djsmurfie I love getting down here in this intellectual pigsty and wrestling with the pigs, and creating a page of strange brilliance where my postings have pushed everyone else off the screen. And that's a fact, Jack.

Vomiting his poison out

On the bread and on the wine.

So I turn'd into a sty

And laid me down among the swine.

(William Blake)

[djsmurfie]

@spinoza1111 Oh wow, I must propitiate to you old man: you've managed to copy and paste a William Blake poem.

[spinoza1111]

@spinoza1111 Had enough, Smurfie? Henceforth keep a civil tongue in your head: Else be exposed as a wad and a turkey Of reading comprehension, brain dead. Had enough, Smurfie? If I was your father, I'd kick your ass, But as far as I know I never screwed your Mommie So I am through with you, let's give it a pass. Had enough, Smurfie? I suggest we call it a day You're outa your league and you know it And do not reply like the Internet thug, "your gay"

[djsmurfie]

@spinoza1111 Old man, I think you're going senile: you've replied to your own post; I fear any pugilistic affair would degenerate into a shouting match between you and a brick wall.

[spinoza1111]

I don't mean by "to bring it back" making this fine movie. I mean any denial of the fact that in its time, this music was about power and subordination that if brought back would be Fascist.

[djsmurfie]

@spinoza1111 Art can be a means to an end for some external purpose, but any art is by definition an end in itself. Spinoza, sorry pal, but you're talking absolute shit.

[spinoza1111]

@djsmurfie First of all, everything relates to everything by way of language. Secondly, ballet relates to Fascism because Fascists, from Hitler to Sarah Palin, reject truth in favor of aesthetics. Serge Diaghilev was personally Fascistic, treating his dancers cruelly and of course betraying his country after the October Revolution.

[djsmurfie]

@spinoza1111 First of all, your first sentence is meaningless giberish (try harder mighty 'Spinoza'); second, Sarah Palin is a 'fascist'? Christ, the retarded force is strong in this one...

[spinoza1111]

@djsmurfie The ballet played a role in manufacturing the idea of the Nordic body *en pointe* as superior to the African or Asian body and Fascistically broke the bones and spirits of generations of ballerinas who were also used and thrown away by 19th century aristocrats and 20th century *Gauleiters*. It was only after WWII and *Jahr Null* that a new generation of choreographers like Pina Bausch were able to dispose of the idea of the polarity between the female dancer and "little tin soldier".

[djsmurfie]

@spinoza1111 I really don't give a shit and that really isn't relevant to the ideology at all.

[spinoza1111]

@djsmurfie I love it how pseudo-educated people with advanced degrees learn how to cover up their ignorance by using educational catchphrases like "verbosity" and "irrelevance".

The windiest militant trash

Important Persons shout

Is not so crude as our wish:

What mad Nijinsky wrote

About Diaghilev

Is true of the normal heart;

That poem (Sep 1 1939) is about Hitler's invasion of Poland and the outbreak of WWII.

Any questions, jerk face?

[djsmurfie]

@spinoza1111 How can someone be 'pseudo-educated'? You're either educated or you're not.

My question is why does someone who claims to be a 'polymath' & names himself after a 17th century philosopher try ever so hard to look like a smarty pants on youtube? What an intellectual heavyweight you are.

[spinoza1111]

@djsmurfie What you call, anachronistically, "the philistine revolution of Robespierre" (for that usage of "philistine" did not appear until the 1830s and it referred to the reactionary French bourgeois under the Orleans dynasty) saw in fact a world flourishing of the arts including the Romantic era in literature in England, David and Ingres in painting in France, Mozart and Beethoven in Austria and in music, and Kant and Hegel in philosophy. ALL enabled by the courage of the people of France!

[djsmurfie]

@spinoza1111 It's not anachronistic to use an adjective that didn't have currency in that particular epoch; do you think it's 'anachronistic' to use the term 'economic' to describe medieval economy? An anachronism is a fallacy of 'presentism'... it's alright mighty 'Spinoza', you can have that bit of knowledge for free.

[feerie26]

Je ne trouve aucun point commun avec la gay pride stepsahead ! Au contraire, quel raffinement!

[BuchouKuruta]

Maravilloso! la musica del barroco es increible

[minsulisa]

I love this movie

[gipcambero]

Yes

[gonrolgonrol]

Is it the actual king (in the movie of course) that is dancing?

[LaBelleDanse]

On the DVD, there is a featurette about the dancing. Choreographer Beatrice Massin taught the dances both to Benoit Magimel, who plays Louis XIV in the film, and to professional baroque dancers who are made up to look as much like Magimel as possible. When you see the king dancing from a distance and doing quite difficult moves, you're seeing the professional dancer(s) hired as dance doubles.

[shusarik]

@LaBelleDanse Can you please tell me how to acquire the DVD. I can't find it. Do you have a manufacturer number?

Many Thanks.

[perico7001]

yes

[stepsahead]

ok ok , mais c etait quand meme pas si gay pride quand meme. c etait baroque mais baroque ca veut pas dire village popole

[jofabopri]

La máscara de la gloria. Impresionante!

[Auxane]

Magnifiscent.