Lights dim. My eyes pan from left to right. I spot it. The mighty pencil. I backflip off my chair, kicking my notebook into the air while grabbing the mighty pencil. I land. My hand furiously works out the calligraphy, the steady yet spontaneous strokes of graphite and paper. I sweat profusely. Grinding down the lead, I snap the pencil, but look to see my completed work. I've written my name
Gloria (Glory) Honorifice (honor) Pralium Facio (Join the battle) Animus (Courage) Gradior Quo (By marching into death) Prodo (We are delivered) In Excelsis (Exellence) Precedo (In the highest) Bellator (Warrior) Decerte (Will fight to the death) Adversa (Against all enemies) Incurro (Attack) Invadoria (Invade) Desideratus Fatum (Welcome to destiny) Desideratus Bellum (Welcome to War)
hey..... i think i remember this soundtrack from warcraft 3!! remember the cinematic where arthas kills his father? it was there. im sure. check it out:
You know... if some people have fun in a game without knowing what the original grandfather storyline is, who cares? Does it hinder your personal understanding of the lore? Maybe some only care about the gameplay and not about the lore behind it all.
Some people treat it as nothing more than just a videogame for their (long-term) enjoyment. I know nothing of the Warcraft lore, as I hate RTS games and have never played them, but I play WoW. Crucify me for not giving a shit about the lore.
epic part of lich king theme? whatever has something to do with lich king is epic not just a part of it >.> i ll miss wrath's storyline and i hope cataclysm balances story with gameplay (as in no izi mode-fest gaming and easy epics in PvE... i also wish PvP becomes interesting, which for my standards means of epic proportions in many scales)
@TheCerorequiem So THATS why he murdered the people of Quel thalas. Well woudnt wanna piss him off and have him murder the people of Ashland, MA so.... I think Ill like the video.
and because I fear the worst, that's why I am often so hostile against WoW and all WoW players...it's nothing personal, Im just so tired of this situation, where there is noway of knowing what Blizzard is going to do with Warcraft IV. I've even emailed them about this, but ofcourse since no plans of anykind for WCIV has been yet (or atleast they dont want to admit), Im without an answer and just have to keep hoping the best and fearing the worst.
no alternative...But again it's okay for me if Warcraft IV would still just tell the exact same events without chancing anything, but I really think it's sad that Blizzard would be killing all these great and important characters.
But yea I quess this conversation is pretty much done, we wont see Warcraft IV in many, many years anyways, but I just really hope that when Warcraft finally returns back to RTS, Blizzard is not going to ignore us who havent played WoW.
his character more deep than it was possible to do in WoW, make his fate much more touching, emotional....and since you've played Warcraft III, you should know that..
And was it really necessary to kill Illidan, and all these other characters too? Illidan especially was not totally evil, but in WoW he was just like any other villains, mad, crazy, character that has totally lost his mind and was beyond salvation....this is pretty much one and the same thing with all the villains in WoW,there is
retold, just the very main events, and assuming the campaings of Warcraft IV would be as long as Starcraft II's campaings (about 30 missions), then Blizzard would have no problems doing that in the first 1 or 2 campaings of WC IV, and the rest of the campaings would then tell entirely new storyline and lore....everyone would be happy, no-one would feel like slapped in the face....
maybe Arthas had to be defeated,but atleast in WC IV there would be more cutscenes and CG-cinematics to really make
epic CGI-cinematic,NOT in some lame ass WoW ingame animation as raidbosses...and I wouldnt have to waste weeks and months playing a genre that I dont like,do things that I couldnt care less about
MMOs are defianitely not for everyone,just like RTS games or any other game genre for that matter are not for everyone..but I love RTS games,and WC III:Reign of Chaos and Frozen Throne are my favorite games of all time and I know that WC IV could tell so much better version of story than WoW ever could
who for one reason or another dont like/dont have time to play WoW, dont you fucking understand that?
You (and millions of others) enjoy playing WoW, fine, but there are also lot of WC fans who just dont like to play MMO or dont have time to play it.....
I love the storyline and lore of Warcraft, I've read about all Warcraft books before the events of WoW...all I want is to see Arthas, Illidan and others to wreack havoc one last time, and if they have to die,then atleast they deserve to die in
ONLY solution that would atleast somehow be good for all Warcraft fans is the one I wrote below....WoW players would loose absolutely NOTHING,Warcraft IV would just make the storyline of WoW even better, that is A FACT!
and Im sorry if I generalized, ofcourse there are people who like both Warcraft RTS games and WoW...but the truth is that if WC IV would not one way or another continue from WC III:The Frozen Throne,the storyline would be forever ruined, raped, and totally fucked up for all
If you ever have played Warcraft III:Reign of Chaos and Frozen Throne, then you should know damn well, how much more detailed, deeper and better version of the storyline Warcraft IV could tell....If you liked the storyline in WoW, then Warcraft IV could make it just so much better, dont you WoW players realize that?...And that way Warcraft RTS wouldnt feel discriminated and forgotten, overall that would be the only win-win solution for everyone.
and despite the logic that when creating Warcraft IV, Blizzard should naturally do it FIRST AND FOREMOST to Warcraft RTS fans; NOT the WoW players in mind, I just fear the worst, that Blizzard will just ignore all those Warcraft fans who have not players that fucking MMO =(
@Balnazzardi Blizzard is going to make Warcraft VI for ALL players, not for RTS, or MMO, ALL players who like the Warcraft universe. Plus, they most likely don't give two shits about what game you like more as long as you spend money on buying their stuff.
@YulieAna Well tell me how the hell they are supposed to make it for ALL players if the storyline doesnt one way or another continue from Frozen Throne? Because if they dont, they are just assuming that every Warcraft fan has played WoW and all of it's expansions, thus the game would be for WoW players only. The ONLY possible way they could do it for all players is to retell the events of WoW in the first 1 or 2 campaings, add some new stuff in there, so it would not all be the same for WoW fans
@Balnazzardi The same way them made Warcraft III and Warcraft II. Not everyone who played Warcraft III played Wacraft I. Hell, the game doesn't sell anymore because it's so old.
Warcraft VI will probably touch on the lore in WoW but why would it retell it if you can buy the game and play it or read up on what happened in WoW story books?
@YulieAna Yeah, right this is exactly the same situation isnt it?...Or have you forgotten that WoW is game from entirely another genre, monthly feed MMO....A genre that especially is either hated or loved, let alone that some people would even have time to play it and all it's damn expansions....and do you really think that reading the story from netpages or books would be the same thing as experiencing it in WC IV?
I mean come on....I have talked a lot about this with other WC RTS fans and the
@Balnazzardi No, I haven't forgotten it, but I rather like the idea or Warcraft being an MMO where you can experience the actual world and be a hero there while in RTS you just do campaigns.
I have nothing against the lore being summarized in WArcraft VI, but to complete retell everything that happened from classic WoW to the last expansion would be a waste of time.
And I don't see how the story was ruined raped and all other dramatic words you used. [cont]
@YulieAna I said that for us it would...I mean how would you feel if for one reason ro another you hadnt played WoW and in the beginning of WC IV, all these characters (Arthas, Illidan, Kel'thuzard etc) would not exists anymore, instead there would be characters you never heard about and you're supposed to know about their origins from WoW, the world would be totally changed, everything would be fucking lame and confusing....
And I never said that EVERYTHING that happened in WoW should be
@Balnazzardi I wouldn't mind if the first couple of campaigns re-tell the fall of Arthas, Illidan and other villains, just to keep the players up to date. But I was under the impression that you wanted Blizzard to re-write the story, not to summarize it, which would of course be a bad move and contradict everything that happened in the WoW series.
@YulieAna Well since I havent played WoW since Burning Crusade came out,that would be even better because then there would be no way of knowing who would survive,what would happen in the same way as in WoW and what would be different.But yea,I understand how you WoW players (who care about the storyline and lore) would feel about that...you would propably feel better if there would be no recap of anykind, so that's why the compromise solution would be good for everyone,but I still fear the worst
@Balnazzardi I don't care if there was a recap in the next Warcraft RTS. The only thing i don't want is for the lore to take another turn that doesn't parallel what happened in BC and WOTLK.
@Balnazzardi The Lick King had to be defeated. So in an RTS that would either be a campaign or him being the final raid boss in an MMO. You oversimplify everything making it sound like it's just so easy to go to ICC and kill him, like you don't have to struggle and work for it at all. Like I said, his death was touching and tragic even if he was a raid boss and a lot of WoW players would agree that WOTLK is the most lore driven and emotional expansion as of yet.
@Balnazzardi Your problem is that you separate the WoW players and Warcraft players into two groups and pretend that Warcraft players have some sort of a moral high ground and better understanding/appreciation/insight of the lore, while ALL WoW players are just in it for the loot and raids.
Besides how the hell Warcraft IV could tell any great storyline if WoW has killed all the villains?...Think about that a while....
Blizzard should just try to keep and make WoW and Warcraft as seperate as possible, that way WoW fans and Warcraft RTS fans would neither be pissed, because both would get exactly the kind of lore and storyline they want...unfortunately I dont see that happening, whatever is going to happen in the future with Warcraft, some are going to be pissed in the eye...
@Balnazzardi Just because Arthas and Illidan are dead, it doesn't mean there aren't any more villains. The lore of Warcraft is huge. There are the Titans, the old gods, the Scarlet Crusade, etc, etc, etc. For someone who claims to care about the lore, you sure limit it to only 3-4 villains.
would have wated Warcraft IV the most, who have waited all these long years for Warcraft to finally return back to RTS, the way it should have always stayed...
Hell if Blizzard "rewards" such a long wait by pissing us Warcraft RTS fans in the eye like that, I would forever boycot all of their games (as useless as that would be)...
You (and millions of others) enjoy WoW, and I understand that....but you WoW players should also try to understand this from other point of view....
havent played WoW and everyone of it's damned expansions and if the storyline would just go on from the last WoW expansion...Hell I would rather not have Warcaft IV at all than to see that to happen...to think that Blizzard would just throw away some of the greatest videogame characters of all time as WoW raidbosses...Ofcourse it's Blizzard's very own game series,they can do whatever they want with it,but that would be the most dickhead move imaginable to all those Warcraft fans who (ironically)
, either by rewriting the storyline from clean table, like WoW never happened or at very least retell the events of WoW but in much more detailed,deeper and better way...and Warcraft IV could do EXACTLY that,RTS game doesnt have the limitations of fucking MMO in storytelling. Either way, the msot important thing is that WC IV simply HAS TO CONTINUE from Frozen Throne!
I mean imagine how totally fucked up,ruined,raped and lame Warcraft would forever be for all those who for one reason or another
@Balnazzardi Rewriting the story will be stupid. The story is done. If you don't like the way Blizzard did it, that's you. It's not going to happen. Arthas is deader than dead. Even before you go to ICC, you already know that there always has to be a Lich King regardless whether Arthas lives or not. His death was very touching, sad, and emotional. Even after he temporarily became human again and spoke to the ghost of his father, it was clear that there is no redemption for him.
limited storytelling of WoW...there are just so many limitations in MMO like WoW in terms of storytelling what can/can't be done...and part of that is ofcourse that players have to always win, there is no alternative.
In the end however I dont care if Blizzard would even allow you to kill Sargeras himself and blow Azeroth to bits and pieces,AS LONG AS that doesnt fucking effect the storyline of Warcraft IV.I've always said that Warcraft IV could tell so much better storyline than WoW ever could
but this is perfect example why I hate and will not ever again play it anymore...why should I waste weeks and months leveling up my character, stand annoying co-players, run after some fucking helmet or sword in raidinstances....and for what? To see what I knew all along that was going to happen...to see some of my favorite characters getting killed in some lame-ass WoW ingame animation. Part of great storytelling is that sometimes evil and "badguys" survive, but that's just not possible in the
entirely new MMO, and I bet that they want people atleast eventually to buy this new MMO, and the best way to guarantee that is slowly, but surely to stop supporting WoW with new expansions and new content...as popular as WoW is, all things have to come to their end at some point, and that includes World of Warcraft...and after the last WoW expansion has been relesead Warcraft is free to return back to RTS, and Im quite certain that Blizzard themselves want to return Warcraft back to it's roots
It expands on the atrocity that is WoW lore and it expands on the ways to enjoy yourself with new raids, dungeons, areas to visit, classes, professions, races etc.
Lets hope by the next few expansions the lore gets more in check with wc
Cataclysm will raise the level cap to 85...and correct me if Im wrong, but I've heard that later there will be a patch coming, where Sylvanas starts some kind of rebellion and the level cap is then raised to 90....so there would be room for 1-2 more expansions depending is the next expansion going to raise the level cap straight to 100 or will be there be just a patch later on that will raise the level cap from 95 to 100.
Blizzard has without no doubt invested huges amounts of money to this new
Because Blizzard is already developing entirely new MMO that has NOTHING to do with Warcraft, and that MMO is going to "replace" WoW when the time comes, and Warcraft is totally free to return back to RTS, AS IT SHOULD BE!
World of Warcraft isnt going to end in a long long time, way past your assumed 3-4 years, Nobody is going to cancel their WoW accounts just to buy a new MMORPG after achieving all the feats they have in the game, Some people like myself might buy and play both, but Its very unlikely any other game will "replace" WoW. Even if blizzard just shuts down WoW servers people will sue like little ungrateful shits.
@assassin4than Sure, WoW will not completely end in 3-4 years, it will not be sudden change, that the moment this new MMO is released, Blizzard would stop entirely supporting WoW, and I wouldnt be suprised if the WoW serves would be up and running even 20 years from now....but another thing entirely is that there would be anymore than 1-2 more expansions for WoW.When the level cap in WoW has reached 100, I'm quite sure that there wont be anymore new expansions...let's see how long that will take
Besides Blizzard is not going to start developing Warcraft IV until Starcraft II trilogy is finished...and that takes propably atleast 2 years + it takes propably 3 years for Blizz to finish the first campaing of WC IV+ the multiplayer.
In the mean time you WoW players are going to have new expansion every 2 years, and by the time Warcraft IV is finished WoW is propably at it's end....yeah believe it or not but your beloved MMO is going to end when level cap reaches 100, that is certain.
@Balnazzardi Also, WoW is not going to end in 2-3 years. Blizzard will not continue the game forever, and it will stop eventually after a few more expansions, but there will be more Warcraft MMOs after that. Maybe after Warcraft IV, maybe later, but it will happen. Blizzard is not going to stop producing their biggest money cow.
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And this is what some WoWtard posted to me in "WoW - Invincible" vid and I dont think he/she was even trolling:
-"every quest is atleast one page long + the actual NPC talking. There are more than 3000 quests ingame. Do the math."
-"WC3 barely had any background lore. "
So he really thinks that reading those goddamn quest textlines is better way to experience the story than epic CG-cutscenes that WC III offered.And that last sentence...just shows how complete idiots some WoW players are...
And btw this is what some WoWtard posted to me in "World of Warcraft - Invincible" vid, and I dont think he/she was trolling:
"-every quest is atleast one page long + the actual NPC talking. There are more than 3000 quests ingame. Do the math."
-"WC3 barely had any background lore."
So he really likes to read those damn quest textlines better than watching CG-cutscenes.....and that last sentence....It just shows how complete and total idiots some WoW players are...
That kind of freedom in storytelling is simply NOT POSSIBLE in MMO like WoW. RTS games give so much more freedom in storytelling, in MMOs there are many limits. For example Undead Scourge and Arthas/Lich King/Ner'zhul never launched full scale invasion, they pretty much waited for Alliance and Horde to come for them...and that wouldnt make any sense, but since WoW is MMO, that kind of thing is simply not possible to create.
@Balnazzardi dude the story line in wow is crap... alot of people would disagree with me but seriously... ok i admit the first 2 went well but once they released the lich king and its story line everything started going down... people disagreed with the lich king being added to the game and stopped... others thought rasing the cap level to 80 was also pointless... wow basicaly started getting a bad storyline since they released the lich king and it will get worse once cataclysm is released.
@SuperMinimix Yea, that's exactly what I think too. That's why I want that Blizzard would create entirely alternative and different storyline for Warcraft IV, but at very least continue from Frozen Throne. If Arthas has to die, then atleast he deserves to die in epic CG cinematic, not in some crappy WoW ingame animation. If Blizzard would do that, I could forgive them everything, I really hope that Blizzard's official view is that WoW will not affect the storyline of Warcraft IV.
@Balnazzardi i couldnt agree more m8... but unfortunetly blizzard will problably mess up warcraft IV aswell... i mean they have mucked up wow in 1 game... and now cataclysm... theres no way that Warcraft IV will not be mucked up... its all blizzards fault... personaly i think they didnt taken enough time to think of something different... they landed on the lich king and didnt think of anything different.
@SuperMinimix Yea, that's what I fear too, unfortunately, and if they would mess up Warcraft IV, I would NEVER buy another game from Blizzard ever again (as useless as that would be). But they havent said much anything about Warcraft IV, so there is still hope and I really pray that Blizzard would do Warcraft IV first and foremost for the Warcraft RTS players, NOT for WoW players, or at least somehow create a compromise that works for both fan groups.
@Balnazzardi ye that wld b good to try create a compromise... unfortunetly that wld be very hard cs RTS player and WOW players wont agree... also you know you could just send an email to blizzard telling them what ur oppinion is in how they should to warcraft IV... they will most probably listen... what do they have to loose?
@SuperMinimix Ye, Blizzard usually (but ofcourse not always) listen to their fans, and what they have to say. WoW is just so huge, that's impossible to please everyone. Anyway Warcraft IV would sell millions, no matter what they would do with the story, so there is really no need please WoW fans in that case. Warcraft IV should be for those who truly appreciates the storyline and lore of Warcraft, and those who play WoW just because it's MMO can go and buy Blizzard's new MMO, when it is finished
@Balnazzardi i couldnt agree more... i sent an email to blizzard about my thought of the storyline and requested a few things from them for warcraft IV but all i can do now is just wait for a reply...
@SuperMinimix Great, maybe I should do that too...Btw would be nice to know what did you write to them and if you could send that same email adress to me ? =)
...And as I said do Warcraft IV with the RTS fans in mind, NOT for the WoW players. As I said Warcraft IV would still sell millions, but ofcourse not all WoW players would buy it....however if they would just remake or recap the story of WoW, that wouldnt hurt the salenumbers, so there is no fucking reason for them not to create alternative storyline for Warcraft IV... I bet it would be more fun for the lore writer Chris Medzen as well, he could write any kind of story he would want.
...From beginning to the "end"...And I know very well that Warcraft IV without Arthas, Illidan and all other great villains would be totally,utterly lame and confusing with all these new characters, that I've never heard about, but what WoW created.That would be the worst case scenario, worst nightmare, I wouldnt even want to see Blizzard making Warcraft IV, if it would continue from some fucking WoW expansion.But hopefully Blizzard will see WoW and Warcraft as 2 different game series, like I do
DESIDERATUS FATUM! DESIDERATUS BELLUM! damm i love that song even before knowing about warcraft lol, i saw it on the warcraft III trailer inside a CD a friend lend me, i didn't even knew what the hell i was watching but i loved it
I really hope that Blizzard's official view is that WoW is sort of playground, where they just use these characters as raid bosses,but it will not affect the storyline of Warcraft IV.Or another option is that the first 1 or 2 campaings of Warcraft IV would tell the events of WoW, but more detailed, deep and maybe even little modified version of it. I mean if WC IV campaings would be as huge as Starcraft II campaings (each race will have26-30 missions long campaing) then they could easily do that
So this is what Warcraft has become,how low it has sunken....kids posting their character stats and arguing which is better Horde or Alliance just so they can raise their virtual dicks.I really hope that WHEN Blizzard starts developing Warcraft IV, they do it for Warcraft RTS fans,NOT for WoW players.I really hope that they keep in mind that most WoW players coudlnt care less about story or lore,most of them wouldnt even buy Warcraft IV,so they can ignore the lore raping events of WoW completely
@Balnazzardi You've got a great point. Not many people do follow the story and such in WoW. It's a shame, and I do agree, I hope they make WCIV for the RTS fans.
But you can't rip on the people posting their level, they're just overwhelmed. If you were nub, you might do the same ;P It's all in good fun
@Qw3rtyX2 Yea, I guess so :P. Well just have to wait and see what happens, I have yet faith in Blizzard, it's just that I fear that WC IV would continue from some WoW expansion instead of from the end of Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne.
I can't even describe how lame it would be if at the begining of WC IV all these great villains and characters like Arthas, Illidan, Kel'thuzad would be dead. If that were to happen, I wouldnt even buy the game or any Blizzard game for the rest of my life.
@YulieAna Yeah, well that's just perfect example how "great" the storytelling in WoW really is....Blizzard cheaply replaced Arthas with Bolvar and so they just recycled the Lich King character so they have easily "new" raidboss ready and waiting when they start running out of characters to kill....and that's what WoW is doing, simply killing EVERY villain there is....Kel'thuzad, Kael'thas, Vashj, Illidan, Arthas, and now Deathwing and propably Sylvanas too..I understand that MMO needs raidbosses
@Balnazzardi Sylvanas is not a villain as of yet. She is one of the racial faction leaders. And she is your faction leader if you play with a Forsaken.
It's not like you can just waltz into Icecrown citadel and zip through it till you pew pew pew the Lich King. There're lore in the quests that you do in Icecrown that tell the story of Arthas after he became the Lich King. You meet him in various places. If you play with a Death Knight, you start out as Scourge and one of his champions.
WoW is an abomination, not for Blizzard simply ruining the lore. But for inserting brainwashing subliminal messages inside the game that make it addicting to the player. Simply putting a word that's untracable to the human eye can trigger a subconcious brain effect, for example hiding the word sex makes the person have a sexual desire to own the product.
WoW isn't that great of a game, and it's illegally brainwashing people to play it.. what a sad world we live in.
@OmegaCalibur Can I just say that I played WC1, 2 and 3 and enjoyed all the lore in there and think Blizzard have actually developed the lore quite well in WoW and as for brainwashing for it to become addictive...that's just paranoid talk. I agree that we may need a restriction on age but the parental controls can be a way around that if people used them. As for ruining the lore...if you look at the change in lore from WC1 to WC3 you will notice that a lot of it changes...doesn't mean its ruined
@Balnazzardi Another rts whoudnt work. I truly loved the fuck out of Warcraft 3 and i still play it but, wow has destroyed the whole Warcraft lore. Illidan is dead, arthas is dead, Everyones dead. No exiting stuff left =(
@SgtdawnFTW9000 Yea, I know,but did you read all of my previous comments? Ofcourse the best thing would be,if they would completely ignore WoW and it's events and create more or less alternative storyline for Warcraft IV Blizzard and Chris Medzen could easily do just that if they wanted to.At very least WC IV simply MUST continue where Frozen Throne ended,thats the most sensible and rational thing to do.Blizz simply can't assume that everyone has played WoW and everyone of it's damn expansions..
@Balnazzardi I do agree with you at some point. Most of the WoW players really didn't know the entire story of Warcraft itself, even to the extent on how Orcs came to Azeroth, but yet again, I am glad when I met players knowing the entire story itself. I am a WoW player too, but I know at least the Third War (Warcraft III). I have played Warcraft II once on PlayStation 1, but didn't focus on the story, this is why I want to play Warcraft I and II again. :D
@Balnazzardi yeah i agree in some points to that but i have to say its not everytime so.. the kids are on some realms overpopulated BUT at least 60% of them are just as good as 18 or 40 year old people. but i think its a BIG BIG SHAME that SO MANY PEOPLE play wow and DONT know ANYTHING about the story... The Warcraft Story is the best story wich has ever been written by mankind... fucking epic fucking awesome fucking GREAT
@Skullx174 Yeah... I just hope that Blizz will not forget that not every Warcraft fan has played WoW and everyone of it's damn expansion and many hate what Blizz has done to the storyline and lore. For example, I understand that WoW needs raidbosses, put it's just so lame and sad to see how great characters like Arthas and Illidan are thrown away, just because they have to die as raidbosses.That's why I think WC IV should continue from WC III: Frozen Throne and preferably rewrite the storyline
@Balnazzardi have u ever played it ? really who cares about RTS when u can have a real world simulation ? Go play age of empires or starcraft 2 and stop being a troll about people playing WOW. Its one of the best games ever made and some people do care about lore, some dont, accept it and/or grow up.
@Sephyrable Yea, well you should try to understand that there are many of those who loved Warcraft as RTS, and dont care/dont have time /just dont want to play MMO. I have to admit that vanilla WoW was a great game but the expansions just totally ruined it for me...but Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos and Frozen Throne are my favorite games of all time, and Warcraft really deserves to continue as RTS. Tell me, what Warcaft IV could possibly take away from you WoW players? Absolutely nothing.
@Balnazzardi If you don't have the time and/or don't care, that is your priority. Others do, like, and have the time to play it. And having the holier-than-thou attitude about it makes you look full of yourself. Get off your high horse and stop clumping all of the WoW players together, as if all of us only care about raiding and gear. That's not true. Wrath of the Lich King is the most emotional and lore driven WoW expansion that pushed the lore forward and did a lot of interesting story changes
@Balnazzardi yeah i am feeling the same way i am playing wow but i love the warcraft story and it's kinda sad most people from wow doesnt know anything for the world of warcraft...what a fucking sad irony
@DarkGlaceon How so? First it was from Alliance perspective, then Scourge, then Horde and finally Night Elves...Sure the game mainly focused on Arthas, but still as far as the storyline/telling is consirned, Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos and Frozen Throne easily beat World of Warcraft, where the storytelling has never reached such depth and detail as in Warcraft III.
Gloria - glory Honorifice - honour Pralium Facio - Join the Battle Animus - Courage Gradior Quo - By marching into Death Prodo - We are Delivered In Excelsis - Excellence Precedo - in the highest Bellator - (the) Warrior) Decerte - (will fight to the) death Adversa - against all opposition Incurro - Attack Invadoria - Invade Desideratus Fatum - Welcome to Destiny Desideratus Bellum - Welcome to War
srry, "a call to arms" is correctly
DSspielermars101 3 months ago
the original name of this theme is "call of arms" I mean
DSspielermars101 3 months ago
i absolutely love it... i feel like i'm dying when i listen to that part. but it's SOOO SHORT! ;(
ageve19 3 months ago
...this song is actualy called Call to arms...
Necrit94 4 months ago
hm no arthas theme bat np
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Lights dim. My eyes pan from left to right. I spot it. The mighty pencil. I backflip off my chair, kicking my notebook into the air while grabbing the mighty pencil. I land. My hand furiously works out the calligraphy, the steady yet spontaneous strokes of graphite and paper. I sweat profusely. Grinding down the lead, I snap the pencil, but look to see my completed work. I've written my name
DemocraciesHypocrisy 5 months ago
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TheJoshGmbH 5 months ago
somebody got down of his mount @ 0:25
abisz46 5 months ago
This song all ways makes my day i miss wrath
2Parakeet1 6 months ago 5
the 5th who dislike it is mal' ganis
nekthep 6 months ago
OMG.....epic....just epic....
SouheaX 7 months ago
Gloria (Glory) Honorifice (honor) Pralium Facio (Join the battle) Animus (Courage) Gradior Quo (By marching into death) Prodo (We are delivered) In Excelsis (Exellence) Precedo (In the highest) Bellator (Warrior) Decerte (Will fight to the death) Adversa (Against all enemies) Incurro (Attack) Invadoria (Invade) Desideratus Fatum (Welcome to destiny) Desideratus Bellum (Welcome to War)
mithrandirbc 7 months ago 19
i always thought this was the best part of it 2! omg nice call mate
Majora48 8 months ago
Gloria, Honorifice, Pralium Facio
Animus, Gradior Quo, Prodo
In Excelsis, Precedo, Bellator, Decerte, Adversa, Incurro, Invadoria
Desideratus Fatum
Desideratus Bellum
Malk007 9 months ago 2
@Malk007 can you translate that?
gigigood1 9 months ago
@gigigood1 Dont belive it even means something lol xD
SovietLenin1 8 months ago
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hey..... i think i remember this soundtrack from warcraft 3!! remember the cinematic where arthas kills his father? it was there. im sure. check it out:
/watch?v=sXq2EPyMbtc&feature=related
arthur121xD 10 months ago
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arthur121xD 10 months ago
This is actually "A Call to Arms" which was in Vanilla. =P
LurellePiano 1 year ago
@LurellePiano it get even more epic with every expansion.
GenralO 11 months ago
You know... if some people have fun in a game without knowing what the original grandfather storyline is, who cares? Does it hinder your personal understanding of the lore? Maybe some only care about the gameplay and not about the lore behind it all.
Some people treat it as nothing more than just a videogame for their (long-term) enjoyment. I know nothing of the Warcraft lore, as I hate RTS games and have never played them, but I play WoW. Crucify me for not giving a shit about the lore.
PringlesForAidan 1 year ago
epic part of lich king theme? whatever has something to do with lich king is epic not just a part of it >.> i ll miss wrath's storyline and i hope cataclysm balances story with gameplay (as in no izi mode-fest gaming and easy epics in PvE... i also wish PvP becomes interesting, which for my standards means of epic proportions in many scales)
leivadaros 1 year ago
my favorate video
deadmanal 1 year ago
The 4 who disliked were Uther, Sylvanas, Terenas and Antonidas. The were killed by Arthas.
TheCerorequiem 1 year ago 42
@TheCerorequiem
It seems that Illidan joined the party:D
Tragicfire 10 months ago 5
@TheCerorequiem URAH TO ARTHAS! I DONT WANT A FLAME KING! BACK WHIT ARTHAS! *salutes*
SovietLenin1 8 months ago
@TheCerorequiem LIES!!!! This song isn't about Arthas...
SVB222 7 months ago
@SVB222 Isnt it the drums of war starts again?
SovietLenin1 6 months ago
@TheCerorequiem even tho Terenas always loved arthas even after getting killed
Kragoth55 6 months ago
@TheCerorequiem Terenas still loves his son.. no matter that he killed him mate
ednozeg 5 months ago
@TheCerorequiem So THATS why he murdered the people of Quel thalas. Well woudnt wanna piss him off and have him murder the people of Ashland, MA so.... I think Ill like the video.
TheAuditer2009 4 months ago
@TheCerorequiem actually they're 5.The new one is a panda
baschxii 3 months ago
@TheCerorequiem sylvanas was not killed! was cursed
MrCretinu 3 months ago
@TheCerorequiem illidan was the 5th
YouvebeenTommed 3 months ago
it is an epic song from wow
Hassan7895123 1 year ago
and because I fear the worst, that's why I am often so hostile against WoW and all WoW players...it's nothing personal, Im just so tired of this situation, where there is noway of knowing what Blizzard is going to do with Warcraft IV. I've even emailed them about this, but ofcourse since no plans of anykind for WCIV has been yet (or atleast they dont want to admit), Im without an answer and just have to keep hoping the best and fearing the worst.
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
no alternative...But again it's okay for me if Warcraft IV would still just tell the exact same events without chancing anything, but I really think it's sad that Blizzard would be killing all these great and important characters.
But yea I quess this conversation is pretty much done, we wont see Warcraft IV in many, many years anyways, but I just really hope that when Warcraft finally returns back to RTS, Blizzard is not going to ignore us who havent played WoW.
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
his character more deep than it was possible to do in WoW, make his fate much more touching, emotional....and since you've played Warcraft III, you should know that..
And was it really necessary to kill Illidan, and all these other characters too? Illidan especially was not totally evil, but in WoW he was just like any other villains, mad, crazy, character that has totally lost his mind and was beyond salvation....this is pretty much one and the same thing with all the villains in WoW,there is
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
retold, just the very main events, and assuming the campaings of Warcraft IV would be as long as Starcraft II's campaings (about 30 missions), then Blizzard would have no problems doing that in the first 1 or 2 campaings of WC IV, and the rest of the campaings would then tell entirely new storyline and lore....everyone would be happy, no-one would feel like slapped in the face....
maybe Arthas had to be defeated,but atleast in WC IV there would be more cutscenes and CG-cinematics to really make
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
epic CGI-cinematic,NOT in some lame ass WoW ingame animation as raidbosses...and I wouldnt have to waste weeks and months playing a genre that I dont like,do things that I couldnt care less about
MMOs are defianitely not for everyone,just like RTS games or any other game genre for that matter are not for everyone..but I love RTS games,and WC III:Reign of Chaos and Frozen Throne are my favorite games of all time and I know that WC IV could tell so much better version of story than WoW ever could
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
who for one reason or another dont like/dont have time to play WoW, dont you fucking understand that?
You (and millions of others) enjoy playing WoW, fine, but there are also lot of WC fans who just dont like to play MMO or dont have time to play it.....
I love the storyline and lore of Warcraft, I've read about all Warcraft books before the events of WoW...all I want is to see Arthas, Illidan and others to wreack havoc one last time, and if they have to die,then atleast they deserve to die in
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
ONLY solution that would atleast somehow be good for all Warcraft fans is the one I wrote below....WoW players would loose absolutely NOTHING,Warcraft IV would just make the storyline of WoW even better, that is A FACT!
and Im sorry if I generalized, ofcourse there are people who like both Warcraft RTS games and WoW...but the truth is that if WC IV would not one way or another continue from WC III:The Frozen Throne,the storyline would be forever ruined, raped, and totally fucked up for all
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
If you ever have played Warcraft III:Reign of Chaos and Frozen Throne, then you should know damn well, how much more detailed, deeper and better version of the storyline Warcraft IV could tell....If you liked the storyline in WoW, then Warcraft IV could make it just so much better, dont you WoW players realize that?...And that way Warcraft RTS wouldnt feel discriminated and forgotten, overall that would be the only win-win solution for everyone.
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
and despite the logic that when creating Warcraft IV, Blizzard should naturally do it FIRST AND FOREMOST to Warcraft RTS fans; NOT the WoW players in mind, I just fear the worst, that Blizzard will just ignore all those Warcraft fans who have not players that fucking MMO =(
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi Blizzard is going to make Warcraft VI for ALL players, not for RTS, or MMO, ALL players who like the Warcraft universe. Plus, they most likely don't give two shits about what game you like more as long as you spend money on buying their stuff.
YulieAna 1 year ago
@YulieAna Well tell me how the hell they are supposed to make it for ALL players if the storyline doesnt one way or another continue from Frozen Throne? Because if they dont, they are just assuming that every Warcraft fan has played WoW and all of it's expansions, thus the game would be for WoW players only. The ONLY possible way they could do it for all players is to retell the events of WoW in the first 1 or 2 campaings, add some new stuff in there, so it would not all be the same for WoW fans
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi The same way them made Warcraft III and Warcraft II. Not everyone who played Warcraft III played Wacraft I. Hell, the game doesn't sell anymore because it's so old.
Warcraft VI will probably touch on the lore in WoW but why would it retell it if you can buy the game and play it or read up on what happened in WoW story books?
YulieAna 1 year ago
@YulieAna Yeah, right this is exactly the same situation isnt it?...Or have you forgotten that WoW is game from entirely another genre, monthly feed MMO....A genre that especially is either hated or loved, let alone that some people would even have time to play it and all it's damn expansions....and do you really think that reading the story from netpages or books would be the same thing as experiencing it in WC IV?
I mean come on....I have talked a lot about this with other WC RTS fans and the
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi No, I haven't forgotten it, but I rather like the idea or Warcraft being an MMO where you can experience the actual world and be a hero there while in RTS you just do campaigns.
I have nothing against the lore being summarized in WArcraft VI, but to complete retell everything that happened from classic WoW to the last expansion would be a waste of time.
And I don't see how the story was ruined raped and all other dramatic words you used. [cont]
YulieAna 1 year ago
@YulieAna I said that for us it would...I mean how would you feel if for one reason ro another you hadnt played WoW and in the beginning of WC IV, all these characters (Arthas, Illidan, Kel'thuzard etc) would not exists anymore, instead there would be characters you never heard about and you're supposed to know about their origins from WoW, the world would be totally changed, everything would be fucking lame and confusing....
And I never said that EVERYTHING that happened in WoW should be
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi I wouldn't mind if the first couple of campaigns re-tell the fall of Arthas, Illidan and other villains, just to keep the players up to date. But I was under the impression that you wanted Blizzard to re-write the story, not to summarize it, which would of course be a bad move and contradict everything that happened in the WoW series.
YulieAna 1 year ago
@YulieAna Well since I havent played WoW since Burning Crusade came out,that would be even better because then there would be no way of knowing who would survive,what would happen in the same way as in WoW and what would be different.But yea,I understand how you WoW players (who care about the storyline and lore) would feel about that...you would propably feel better if there would be no recap of anykind, so that's why the compromise solution would be good for everyone,but I still fear the worst
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi I don't care if there was a recap in the next Warcraft RTS. The only thing i don't want is for the lore to take another turn that doesn't parallel what happened in BC and WOTLK.
YulieAna 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi The Lick King had to be defeated. So in an RTS that would either be a campaign or him being the final raid boss in an MMO. You oversimplify everything making it sound like it's just so easy to go to ICC and kill him, like you don't have to struggle and work for it at all. Like I said, his death was touching and tragic even if he was a raid boss and a lot of WoW players would agree that WOTLK is the most lore driven and emotional expansion as of yet.
YulieAna 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi Your problem is that you separate the WoW players and Warcraft players into two groups and pretend that Warcraft players have some sort of a moral high ground and better understanding/appreciation/insight of the lore, while ALL WoW players are just in it for the loot and raids.
YulieAna 1 year ago
Besides how the hell Warcraft IV could tell any great storyline if WoW has killed all the villains?...Think about that a while....
Blizzard should just try to keep and make WoW and Warcraft as seperate as possible, that way WoW fans and Warcraft RTS fans would neither be pissed, because both would get exactly the kind of lore and storyline they want...unfortunately I dont see that happening, whatever is going to happen in the future with Warcraft, some are going to be pissed in the eye...
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi Just because Arthas and Illidan are dead, it doesn't mean there aren't any more villains. The lore of Warcraft is huge. There are the Titans, the old gods, the Scarlet Crusade, etc, etc, etc. For someone who claims to care about the lore, you sure limit it to only 3-4 villains.
YulieAna 1 year ago
would have wated Warcraft IV the most, who have waited all these long years for Warcraft to finally return back to RTS, the way it should have always stayed...
Hell if Blizzard "rewards" such a long wait by pissing us Warcraft RTS fans in the eye like that, I would forever boycot all of their games (as useless as that would be)...
You (and millions of others) enjoy WoW, and I understand that....but you WoW players should also try to understand this from other point of view....
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
havent played WoW and everyone of it's damned expansions and if the storyline would just go on from the last WoW expansion...Hell I would rather not have Warcaft IV at all than to see that to happen...to think that Blizzard would just throw away some of the greatest videogame characters of all time as WoW raidbosses...Ofcourse it's Blizzard's very own game series,they can do whatever they want with it,but that would be the most dickhead move imaginable to all those Warcraft fans who (ironically)
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
, either by rewriting the storyline from clean table, like WoW never happened or at very least retell the events of WoW but in much more detailed,deeper and better way...and Warcraft IV could do EXACTLY that,RTS game doesnt have the limitations of fucking MMO in storytelling. Either way, the msot important thing is that WC IV simply HAS TO CONTINUE from Frozen Throne!
I mean imagine how totally fucked up,ruined,raped and lame Warcraft would forever be for all those who for one reason or another
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi Rewriting the story will be stupid. The story is done. If you don't like the way Blizzard did it, that's you. It's not going to happen. Arthas is deader than dead. Even before you go to ICC, you already know that there always has to be a Lich King regardless whether Arthas lives or not. His death was very touching, sad, and emotional. Even after he temporarily became human again and spoke to the ghost of his father, it was clear that there is no redemption for him.
YulieAna 1 year ago
limited storytelling of WoW...there are just so many limitations in MMO like WoW in terms of storytelling what can/can't be done...and part of that is ofcourse that players have to always win, there is no alternative.
In the end however I dont care if Blizzard would even allow you to kill Sargeras himself and blow Azeroth to bits and pieces,AS LONG AS that doesnt fucking effect the storyline of Warcraft IV.I've always said that Warcraft IV could tell so much better storyline than WoW ever could
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
but this is perfect example why I hate and will not ever again play it anymore...why should I waste weeks and months leveling up my character, stand annoying co-players, run after some fucking helmet or sword in raidinstances....and for what? To see what I knew all along that was going to happen...to see some of my favorite characters getting killed in some lame-ass WoW ingame animation. Part of great storytelling is that sometimes evil and "badguys" survive, but that's just not possible in the
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
From now on, this will be my cell's ringtone... xDDDDDDDDDD
DargorMajere 1 year ago
entirely new MMO, and I bet that they want people atleast eventually to buy this new MMO, and the best way to guarantee that is slowly, but surely to stop supporting WoW with new expansions and new content...as popular as WoW is, all things have to come to their end at some point, and that includes World of Warcraft...and after the last WoW expansion has been relesead Warcraft is free to return back to RTS, and Im quite certain that Blizzard themselves want to return Warcraft back to it's roots
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi
Expansion isn't solely level based you know?
It expands on the atrocity that is WoW lore and it expands on the ways to enjoy yourself with new raids, dungeons, areas to visit, classes, professions, races etc.
Lets hope by the next few expansions the lore gets more in check with wc
assassin4than 1 year ago
Cataclysm will raise the level cap to 85...and correct me if Im wrong, but I've heard that later there will be a patch coming, where Sylvanas starts some kind of rebellion and the level cap is then raised to 90....so there would be room for 1-2 more expansions depending is the next expansion going to raise the level cap straight to 100 or will be there be just a patch later on that will raise the level cap from 95 to 100.
Blizzard has without no doubt invested huges amounts of money to this new
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
GLORIA!
Idk who gloria is but i love her atm
assassin4than 1 year ago
YES this is the my favoruite part XDD its true EPIC!!!!
KNGergely 1 year ago
awsome :D
drakodude2 1 year ago
It is a variation of the original Call to Arms
Gathioss 1 year ago
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Redsoxfanmatt 1 year ago
Because Blizzard is already developing entirely new MMO that has NOTHING to do with Warcraft, and that MMO is going to "replace" WoW when the time comes, and Warcraft is totally free to return back to RTS, AS IT SHOULD BE!
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi
"AS IT SHOULD BE!"
who are you to control the blizzard empire?
World of Warcraft isnt going to end in a long long time, way past your assumed 3-4 years, Nobody is going to cancel their WoW accounts just to buy a new MMORPG after achieving all the feats they have in the game, Some people like myself might buy and play both, but Its very unlikely any other game will "replace" WoW. Even if blizzard just shuts down WoW servers people will sue like little ungrateful shits.
assassin4than 1 year ago
@assassin4than Sure, WoW will not completely end in 3-4 years, it will not be sudden change, that the moment this new MMO is released, Blizzard would stop entirely supporting WoW, and I wouldnt be suprised if the WoW serves would be up and running even 20 years from now....but another thing entirely is that there would be anymore than 1-2 more expansions for WoW.When the level cap in WoW has reached 100, I'm quite sure that there wont be anymore new expansions...let's see how long that will take
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
Besides Blizzard is not going to start developing Warcraft IV until Starcraft II trilogy is finished...and that takes propably atleast 2 years + it takes propably 3 years for Blizz to finish the first campaing of WC IV+ the multiplayer.
In the mean time you WoW players are going to have new expansion every 2 years, and by the time Warcraft IV is finished WoW is propably at it's end....yeah believe it or not but your beloved MMO is going to end when level cap reaches 100, that is certain.
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi Also, WoW is not going to end in 2-3 years. Blizzard will not continue the game forever, and it will stop eventually after a few more expansions, but there will be more Warcraft MMOs after that. Maybe after Warcraft IV, maybe later, but it will happen. Blizzard is not going to stop producing their biggest money cow.
YulieAna 1 year ago
0:04 "Oh my teeth!"
RuuffusDesign 1 year ago
@RuuffusDesign
totally sounds like that! (once you pointed it out naturally xD)
AlexTheGreatMD 1 year ago
when is the download coming?
charles34play 1 year ago
@charles34play lmfao good call, i gotta find the file, and a good site to host it, do you know any good sites?
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@Qw3rtyX2 mediafire com
charles34play 1 year ago
@Qw3rtyX2 youtubedownloader
ArchaonDeath 10 months ago
@charles34play just totternt search it, only takes 5min to get
damianson 1 year ago
@damianson yeah thats where i found it 1 week ago :) Thanks.
charles34play 1 year ago
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violettigano01 1 year ago
And this is what some WoWtard posted to me in "WoW - Invincible" vid and I dont think he/she was even trolling:
-"every quest is atleast one page long + the actual NPC talking. There are more than 3000 quests ingame. Do the math."
-"WC3 barely had any background lore. "
So he really thinks that reading those goddamn quest textlines is better way to experience the story than epic CG-cutscenes that WC III offered.And that last sentence...just shows how complete idiots some WoW players are...
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
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And btw this is what some WoWtard posted to me in "World of Warcraft - Invincible" vid, and I dont think he/she was trolling:
"-every quest is atleast one page long + the actual NPC talking. There are more than 3000 quests ingame. Do the math."
-"WC3 barely had any background lore."
So he really likes to read those damn quest textlines better than watching CG-cutscenes.....and that last sentence....It just shows how complete and total idiots some WoW players are...
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
This is awesome it's a revamp of the vanilla wow music track " A call to arms"
monkyboy4017 1 year ago
omg i could listen to Blizz's mens and womens choir all day!
Deathpool35 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this, i was going to dowload, edit, convert etc etc etc the whole login song just to get this, <3 you =)
guille985 1 year ago
That kind of freedom in storytelling is simply NOT POSSIBLE in MMO like WoW. RTS games give so much more freedom in storytelling, in MMOs there are many limits. For example Undead Scourge and Arthas/Lich King/Ner'zhul never launched full scale invasion, they pretty much waited for Alliance and Horde to come for them...and that wouldnt make any sense, but since WoW is MMO, that kind of thing is simply not possible to create.
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi dude the story line in wow is crap... alot of people would disagree with me but seriously... ok i admit the first 2 went well but once they released the lich king and its story line everything started going down... people disagreed with the lich king being added to the game and stopped... others thought rasing the cap level to 80 was also pointless... wow basicaly started getting a bad storyline since they released the lich king and it will get worse once cataclysm is released.
SuperMinimix 1 year ago
@SuperMinimix Yea, that's exactly what I think too. That's why I want that Blizzard would create entirely alternative and different storyline for Warcraft IV, but at very least continue from Frozen Throne. If Arthas has to die, then atleast he deserves to die in epic CG cinematic, not in some crappy WoW ingame animation. If Blizzard would do that, I could forgive them everything, I really hope that Blizzard's official view is that WoW will not affect the storyline of Warcraft IV.
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi i couldnt agree more m8... but unfortunetly blizzard will problably mess up warcraft IV aswell... i mean they have mucked up wow in 1 game... and now cataclysm... theres no way that Warcraft IV will not be mucked up... its all blizzards fault... personaly i think they didnt taken enough time to think of something different... they landed on the lich king and didnt think of anything different.
SuperMinimix 1 year ago
@SuperMinimix Yea, that's what I fear too, unfortunately, and if they would mess up Warcraft IV, I would NEVER buy another game from Blizzard ever again (as useless as that would be). But they havent said much anything about Warcraft IV, so there is still hope and I really pray that Blizzard would do Warcraft IV first and foremost for the Warcraft RTS players, NOT for WoW players, or at least somehow create a compromise that works for both fan groups.
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi ye that wld b good to try create a compromise... unfortunetly that wld be very hard cs RTS player and WOW players wont agree... also you know you could just send an email to blizzard telling them what ur oppinion is in how they should to warcraft IV... they will most probably listen... what do they have to loose?
SuperMinimix 1 year ago
@SuperMinimix Ye, Blizzard usually (but ofcourse not always) listen to their fans, and what they have to say. WoW is just so huge, that's impossible to please everyone. Anyway Warcraft IV would sell millions, no matter what they would do with the story, so there is really no need please WoW fans in that case. Warcraft IV should be for those who truly appreciates the storyline and lore of Warcraft, and those who play WoW just because it's MMO can go and buy Blizzard's new MMO, when it is finished
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi i couldnt agree more... i sent an email to blizzard about my thought of the storyline and requested a few things from them for warcraft IV but all i can do now is just wait for a reply...
SuperMinimix 1 year ago
@SuperMinimix Great, maybe I should do that too...Btw would be nice to know what did you write to them and if you could send that same email adress to me ? =)
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
...And as I said do Warcraft IV with the RTS fans in mind, NOT for the WoW players. As I said Warcraft IV would still sell millions, but ofcourse not all WoW players would buy it....however if they would just remake or recap the story of WoW, that wouldnt hurt the salenumbers, so there is no fucking reason for them not to create alternative storyline for Warcraft IV... I bet it would be more fun for the lore writer Chris Medzen as well, he could write any kind of story he would want.
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
...From beginning to the "end"...And I know very well that Warcraft IV without Arthas, Illidan and all other great villains would be totally,utterly lame and confusing with all these new characters, that I've never heard about, but what WoW created.That would be the worst case scenario, worst nightmare, I wouldnt even want to see Blizzard making Warcraft IV, if it would continue from some fucking WoW expansion.But hopefully Blizzard will see WoW and Warcraft as 2 different game series, like I do
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
epic ;)
TheCharlyHAPPENS 1 year ago
DESIDERATUS FATUM! DESIDERATUS BELLUM! damm i love that song even before knowing about warcraft lol, i saw it on the warcraft III trailer inside a CD a friend lend me, i didn't even knew what the hell i was watching but i loved it
TenkuNoWind 1 year ago
I really hope that Blizzard's official view is that WoW is sort of playground, where they just use these characters as raid bosses,but it will not affect the storyline of Warcraft IV.Or another option is that the first 1 or 2 campaings of Warcraft IV would tell the events of WoW, but more detailed, deep and maybe even little modified version of it. I mean if WC IV campaings would be as huge as Starcraft II campaings (each race will have26-30 missions long campaing) then they could easily do that
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
So this is what Warcraft has become,how low it has sunken....kids posting their character stats and arguing which is better Horde or Alliance just so they can raise their virtual dicks.I really hope that WHEN Blizzard starts developing Warcraft IV, they do it for Warcraft RTS fans,NOT for WoW players.I really hope that they keep in mind that most WoW players coudlnt care less about story or lore,most of them wouldnt even buy Warcraft IV,so they can ignore the lore raping events of WoW completely
Balnazzardi 1 year ago 18
@Balnazzardi You've got a great point. Not many people do follow the story and such in WoW. It's a shame, and I do agree, I hope they make WCIV for the RTS fans.
But you can't rip on the people posting their level, they're just overwhelmed. If you were nub, you might do the same ;P It's all in good fun
Qw3rtyX2 1 year ago 11
@Qw3rtyX2 Yea, I guess so :P. Well just have to wait and see what happens, I have yet faith in Blizzard, it's just that I fear that WC IV would continue from some WoW expansion instead of from the end of Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne.
I can't even describe how lame it would be if at the begining of WC IV all these great villains and characters like Arthas, Illidan, Kel'thuzad would be dead. If that were to happen, I wouldnt even buy the game or any Blizzard game for the rest of my life.
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi But those characters ARE dead. Arthas cannot to be not dead when he was killed and in his place there is a new Lich King now.
YulieAna 1 year ago
@YulieAna Yeah, well that's just perfect example how "great" the storytelling in WoW really is....Blizzard cheaply replaced Arthas with Bolvar and so they just recycled the Lich King character so they have easily "new" raidboss ready and waiting when they start running out of characters to kill....and that's what WoW is doing, simply killing EVERY villain there is....Kel'thuzad, Kael'thas, Vashj, Illidan, Arthas, and now Deathwing and propably Sylvanas too..I understand that MMO needs raidbosses
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi Sylvanas is not a villain as of yet. She is one of the racial faction leaders. And she is your faction leader if you play with a Forsaken.
It's not like you can just waltz into Icecrown citadel and zip through it till you pew pew pew the Lich King. There're lore in the quests that you do in Icecrown that tell the story of Arthas after he became the Lich King. You meet him in various places. If you play with a Death Knight, you start out as Scourge and one of his champions.
YulieAna 1 year ago
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YulieAna 1 year ago
I started back up wow because I liked the story and wanted to see where it went
flame800900 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi
WoW is an abomination, not for Blizzard simply ruining the lore. But for inserting brainwashing subliminal messages inside the game that make it addicting to the player. Simply putting a word that's untracable to the human eye can trigger a subconcious brain effect, for example hiding the word sex makes the person have a sexual desire to own the product.
WoW isn't that great of a game, and it's illegally brainwashing people to play it.. what a sad world we live in.
OmegaCalibur 1 year ago
@OmegaCalibur Can I just say that I played WC1, 2 and 3 and enjoyed all the lore in there and think Blizzard have actually developed the lore quite well in WoW and as for brainwashing for it to become addictive...that's just paranoid talk. I agree that we may need a restriction on age but the parental controls can be a way around that if people used them. As for ruining the lore...if you look at the change in lore from WC1 to WC3 you will notice that a lot of it changes...doesn't mean its ruined
tometherton86 1 year ago
@OmegaCalibur Hi Mr Thompson! How's the trolling doing?
Bhalspawn 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi Another rts whoudnt work. I truly loved the fuck out of Warcraft 3 and i still play it but, wow has destroyed the whole Warcraft lore. Illidan is dead, arthas is dead, Everyones dead. No exiting stuff left =(
SgtdawnFTW9000 1 year ago
@SgtdawnFTW9000 Yea, I know,but did you read all of my previous comments? Ofcourse the best thing would be,if they would completely ignore WoW and it's events and create more or less alternative storyline for Warcraft IV Blizzard and Chris Medzen could easily do just that if they wanted to.At very least WC IV simply MUST continue where Frozen Throne ended,thats the most sensible and rational thing to do.Blizz simply can't assume that everyone has played WoW and everyone of it's damn expansions..
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi I do agree with you at some point. Most of the WoW players really didn't know the entire story of Warcraft itself, even to the extent on how Orcs came to Azeroth, but yet again, I am glad when I met players knowing the entire story itself. I am a WoW player too, but I know at least the Third War (Warcraft III). I have played Warcraft II once on PlayStation 1, but didn't focus on the story, this is why I want to play Warcraft I and II again. :D
shermantank88 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi yeah i agree in some points to that but i have to say its not everytime so.. the kids are on some realms overpopulated BUT at least 60% of them are just as good as 18 or 40 year old people. but i think its a BIG BIG SHAME that SO MANY PEOPLE play wow and DONT know ANYTHING about the story... The Warcraft Story is the best story wich has ever been written by mankind... fucking epic fucking awesome fucking GREAT
Skullx174 1 year ago
@Skullx174 Yeah... I just hope that Blizz will not forget that not every Warcraft fan has played WoW and everyone of it's damn expansion and many hate what Blizz has done to the storyline and lore. For example, I understand that WoW needs raidbosses, put it's just so lame and sad to see how great characters like Arthas and Illidan are thrown away, just because they have to die as raidbosses.That's why I think WC IV should continue from WC III: Frozen Throne and preferably rewrite the storyline
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi have u ever played it ? really who cares about RTS when u can have a real world simulation ? Go play age of empires or starcraft 2 and stop being a troll about people playing WOW. Its one of the best games ever made and some people do care about lore, some dont, accept it and/or grow up.
Sephyrable 1 year ago
@Sephyrable Yea, well you should try to understand that there are many of those who loved Warcraft as RTS, and dont care/dont have time /just dont want to play MMO. I have to admit that vanilla WoW was a great game but the expansions just totally ruined it for me...but Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos and Frozen Throne are my favorite games of all time, and Warcraft really deserves to continue as RTS. Tell me, what Warcaft IV could possibly take away from you WoW players? Absolutely nothing.
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi If you don't have the time and/or don't care, that is your priority. Others do, like, and have the time to play it. And having the holier-than-thou attitude about it makes you look full of yourself. Get off your high horse and stop clumping all of the WoW players together, as if all of us only care about raiding and gear. That's not true. Wrath of the Lich King is the most emotional and lore driven WoW expansion that pushed the lore forward and did a lot of interesting story changes
YulieAna 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi yeah i am feeling the same way i am playing wow but i love the warcraft story and it's kinda sad most people from wow doesnt know anything for the world of warcraft...what a fucking sad irony
StarWarsUnited123 1 year ago
@Balnazzardi I tried Warcraft 3 once but i was disappointed, not by gameplay, but the lack of the Horde storyline. It was totally Alliance based.
DarkGlaceon 1 year ago 2
@DarkGlaceon How so? First it was from Alliance perspective, then Scourge, then Horde and finally Night Elves...Sure the game mainly focused on Arthas, but still as far as the storyline/telling is consirned, Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos and Frozen Throne easily beat World of Warcraft, where the storytelling has never reached such depth and detail as in Warcraft III.
Balnazzardi 1 year ago
@DarkGlaceon actully when you think about it the alliance is assholes and warmongers. The hord is in fact ironicly the good guys.
SovietLenin1 8 months ago
FOR THE HORDE! (lvl 75 Blood elf Death Knight)(girl!)
BigHeadAQ 1 year ago
LvL 80 undead deathnight =D
SgtdawnFTW9000 1 year ago
@SgtdawnFTW9000 level 80 Human frost mage...owns you!!!
UndercoverCracker 1 year ago
@UndercoverCracker ARCANE FTW!
EL34 1 year ago
@EL34 Mine is frost and arcane! lol
UndercoverCracker 1 year ago
@SgtdawnFTW9000 ditto.
/highfive
bossfight1 1 year ago
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GmasterFunk 1 year ago
look up "A Call to Arms" This part is like 1:10 seconds in.
Qw3rtyX2 1 year ago
lvl 99 tauren chieftain
FFsilje 1 year ago
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onecoolcat141 1 year ago
FOR SPARTA!!! (Level 99999999999 King (elite))
thy422 2 years ago
HOLY CRAP
ITS OVER NINE THOUSAND
SidWL 1 year ago 3
druid!!!!^^
kex123456789 2 years ago
FOR BOTH!!! (80 Draenei Shaman, 80 Tauren Druid)
PicklesRTasty 2 years ago
@PicklesRTasty Yeah! Poor the ones who stay on one side. Iam True Neutral, I do both ways (OotS!:O)
For BOTH! (Starting lvl 24 Human Warlock and lvl 6 Tauren Druid! xD)
FantocheXIII 2 years ago
should have it on a loop :D. I listen to this when I attack an epic mob
sappyrapking 2 years ago
SHEBOBIA DAH NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH
stefriderps3 2 years ago
For the Horde! Victory or death!
Trojanhero7 2 years ago
FOR REALLIFE
Taftvaluue 2 years ago 4
FOR THE ALLIANCE! (80 human priest!)
Correleon 2 years ago
FOR THE ALLIANCE
cadetmaster6 2 years ago
this part really gives me goosbumps! EPIC!!
TheTerminator1238 2 years ago
FOR THE HORDE!!! (lvl 2 blood elf paladin)
onecoolcat141 2 years ago
FOR THE HORDE (lv 80 warrior orc)
(lv 80 tuaren DK)
(lv77 blood elf preist)
and lv 61 undead rouge
stefriderps3 2 years ago
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This isn't WotLK, it's just WoW
Zeldarulah 2 years ago
FOR THE HORDE!!! (lvl80 Tauren shaman)
PabloHedning 2 years ago
Elune Adore (nightelf deathknight)
Schwobabuam 2 years ago
For Horde Brothers!! To Victory!!!!
solovander 2 years ago
LOK THAR OGRAR!
KaiTenSatsuma 2 years ago
FOR THE HORDE (80lvl belf pries)
1zandera1 2 years ago
For the 80% Blondy Elfick Horde Light Wearers Players!
FantocheXIII 2 years ago
the undeaths are against Arthas (see in quests)
and the orcs (and taurs) help the alliance to fight the Lichking in WC3
and: Whats good about palas
xyldke 2 years ago
in WC3 only undeaths are evil, the orcs (taurs are orcs) helps the3 allianc to fight the lichking
xyldke 2 years ago
For the Alliance, and for the Light!
(level 80 human paladin)
Nomanite 2 years ago 2
@Nomanite horde is light to.. there is no good and bad in wow.. The orcs are the good people
chrisrox62 2 years ago
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FOR THE ALLIANCE! (80 human death knight)
itachiuchiha1335 2 years ago