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  • Why didn't this take off? Was there a problem that didn't get resolved?

  • Hmm -drops device into ocean setting the sea ablaze- YAY science!

  • wow thats cool

  • Wow...

  • The TV crew was hospitalized with severe pain in testicles. Doctors concluded 'their eggs were recently boiled'.

    I hope he gets some grant $. It would prove politicians lack basic education in physics as TV people.

  • It takes about 440 kcal (kilocalories) to forge 2 H and 1 O into water. About 322 kcal are released when it "burns". The difference - 118 kcal, is the net energy consumed in the form of free energy or *chemical bonds.

  • It's not "electrolysis" is it, because there is no electical current being passed through the water. So how do the radio waves break the covalent bonds of H and O? Technically the "bond-energy" being released is the same as which went into forging the diatomic molecules together in the first place. We have to assume the radio waves are exciting the molecules, which begin to vibrate and break apart around 60+ Kelvin. So you wouldn't want to keep your hand in the beam for long...

  • smart guy

  • I disagree with all these naysayers, there are certainly other laws at play here besides thermodynamics which don't have anything wrong with them except they are taken out of context. They omit chemical "potential" energy such as in the electrolytic compounds, which far exceed the energy input from the RF which only acts as trigger, in fact output far exceeds input since the remaining energy comes from the chemical reaction. In fact these processes can be done even without RF at all. 10-4!

  • @earlybird1900~ so what are we talking about here?...... 50% efficiency?...... 80% efficiency??

    I need numbers man!

  • @earlybird1900~ trigger??.... what are u saying?.... that the RF is just a "kick start", and that the water will continue burning without the RF energy?

  • It's called electrolysis and it produces hydrogen dumb ass

  • this occurs only in the presence of a strong radio-frequency field, which supposedly dissociates the water into H2 and O2. These two gases then recombine, producing the flame. Although there has been much uninformed hype about this being some kind of a breakthrough as a source of "energy from water", there is no reason to believe that the First Law of Thermodynamics has been repealed. If the energy supplied by the radio-frequency source is taken into account, there has been no net energy gain.

  • Someone should have told this man that the cure for cancer was discovered and discarded more than a hundred years ago. But then again, he wouldn't have come up with another brilliant discovery.

    p.s for those interested, it's called hemp oil. Look it up on youtube or anywhere else on the web.

  • He passed away that's my new last update I appreciate all his contributions R.I.P

  • Last I checked they had John in the basement of a college with one assistant seriously wouldn't you give him a huge DARPA TEAM 24/7 and any amount of financial assistance to develop his technology

  • what if this set for the energy in the future and if it gets overload and explode??? how dangerous is this?

  • How does RF waves cause salt water to burn?  Is the system net positive system?

  • People, the point is to further research and find ways to make it viable. No one's saying "DO IT NOW"... well, no one intelligent is anyways.

    Worth looking into though.

  • unfortunately, that radio generator requires massive amounts of electrical energy.

    Essentially, this is just like a HHO generator, except that instead of the voltage being directly applied using plates, it's induced into the water using high-powered

    radio waves. Unfortunately, it takes more power to make HHO than is gained by burning it, however you get the electricity there, it's the same.

  • unfortunately, that radio generator requires massive amounts of electrical energy.

    Essentially, this is just like a HHO generator, except that instead of the voltage being directly applied using plates, it's induced into the water using high-powered

    radio waves.

  • Later in 2007, Kanzius announced that the same radio frequency transmitter can also be used to generate a hydrogen-oxygen mixture dissociated from salt water.[14][18] The discovery was made accidentally while he was researching the use of radio waves for desalination. Kanzius said that "In this case we weren't looking for energy, we were looking for something that might do desalinization. The more we tried desalinization, the more heat we produced, until we got fire".[18]

  • @JoDraws Kanzius admitted that this process could not be considered an energy source, as more energy is used to produce the RF signal than can be obtained from the burning gas and stated in July 2007 that he never claimed his discovery would replace oil, asserting only that his discovery was "thought provoking."

  • It's interesting, but impractical to substitute fuel oil.

  • As with all good inventions they will sweep it under the carpet if it's going to interfere with their money making agenda. just look at how long they have blocked the use of hemp!

  • US government gets top dollars out of oil companies on taxes. They would never let this invention get of the ground. They did it with the first all electric car, recall all of them then destroy them all. Don't believe, do some research on it then you will know the true.

  • fossil fuel is the best ,, water sucks.. keep on buying oil you will never regret it << saudi citizen xD

  • It amazes me how each successive generation thinks one can scientifically get something for nothing. Physics is what it is. You cannot create or destroy energy, period.

  • @rbryanhull hey man get educated! those people are scientists and they'are saying that the energy released is more than the one spent with the radio wave... so?? Search and then talk. Stupid ass.

  • @DIVERSITYRECESSION3 holy shitsen man! I heard that the pyramids when found they had a layer of salt covering them in the interior! I think you might want to check a show called ancient aliens its between the 1-3 chapters the thing about the pyramids. Great info!

  • i did this by microwaving salt water and lit a match boom

  • Look up Royal Rife - he invented this and was the first person to identify that a virus is alive. Our NEWS IS SO SO STUPID - they must have no science education at all

  • 1:28 guy turns head with dumb founded look on his face. priceless.

  • Conclusion: if radiowaves hit the earth, hell breaks loose!!

  • @groentjealkmaar

    Too right. I guess that was why he was scared about his finding.

    A wave frequency that may cross the solar system passing by earth could burn the seas up in a few days.

    What a tan down at the beach.

    Cheers

  • lights up? wow electricity without cables...

  • did she say almost paying ALMOST four bucks for gas?!?! o.0 gawddamn 2007 come back!

  • @Scarfe619 when was that said

  • This is AMAZING!

    That guy totally discovered FIRE.

    Oh, and splitting water, but meh- that's been done for as long as people have been playing with electricity. Maybe if the news report indicated that he found some greatly efficient way of doing it or something even mildly brainful.

  • He should be arrested. Bad man. Very very bad man. We must use dead dinosaurs juice. Haha fossil fuel. I bet if the Rockefeller's owned all the salt water we would all be able to use this engine. Salt water would be 4 bucks a gallon.

  • if you have this in a car all you half to do it turn on the raido wave generator and flick a switch and it will burn...also this burns hotter than gas so if this is ever made...cars will go faster

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  • he found resonance frequency of water, to break its bonds. it is interesting, work of Stanley Meyer includes water fuel cells that work on resonance principle.

  • THIS JUST IN: Television Station Owner Featured in Breathless Report of Rube-Goldberg Contraption he Built to Convert Electricity Into Heat

    Employees of a local plastics company marvelled at the device's ability to burn hydrogen at fairly average temperatures. The lead reporter did his best to look dumbfounded while watching demonstrations of a microwave transmitter light up a fluorescent bulb and uneconomically power a heat engine.

  • His wife is kinda hot :) MILF! Ghehe

  • South Park was right! All it takes is money(gold) to cure disease.

  • NAA sick people make money for our government not healthy self sufficient civilians , cancer cells collapse under high dosages of Vitamin C (found in natural raw materials) a recent study shows 40 people have been treated with 500,000 mg of vitamin c and a complete change in diet, strictly raw or juices fruited vegetables and have been cured from their carcinogens and have actually been given reports of a healthier metabolism and over all health.

  • oh BTW my Grandmother with 2 different ailments followed this and recovered with the health of a 28 yr. old at the age of 72

  • @popeye9997 anti-oxidants ftw!

  • sorry to say no company would buy this becuse to many of us could just go to the beach and fill up ..

  • @darren107 he meens the copy right smartickls 

  • @darren107

    what about make your OWN COMPANY AND SELL YOUR OWN MACHINE you could mass produce and attach to ANY CAR.

    and make any car Run on Water?

  • how would you like to get off the crack and close your eyes a little?

  • Imagine if you use that machine on the atlantic ocean....

  • Oh the irony if he invented a machine to cure cancer then gave himslf cancer by sticking his hand in front of it :p

  • Yes, now the machine is a tad clumsy, way too big and uses great amounts of energy. Lets see it evolve into a tiny phone size radio emitting gadget that runs on alkaline batteries making water still burn at 1500 degrees.. and we'll be there. Anyone remember the first computers as big as tennis courts? And yet your kid's phone has more computing power than those behemoths ever did. food for thought: let us improve things instead of just criticizing them. :)

  • @fburzaco Perhaps that kind of thing could be realized if the government spent trillions of dollars on research instead of bailout out the big banks.

  • @Causarius Maybe the government should get the hell out of areas where it does not belong at all - economics and science. It amazes me that people do not trust private individuals, yet trust government after 1000s of years of proof, in nations all over the globe, where governments wreck the lives of their citizens. Such thinking is anti-freedom, anti-progress, and anti-(proper)American. And I say that as a Canadian!!! What is wrong with you Americans, that you misunderstand your own nation?

  • @RnBramwell Sorry for being unclear. I am a liberty-loving borderline anarchist, and definitely not a statist. I wasn't lamenting the money not being used by the government for other purposes, I was merely remarking that the ridiculous sums of money could actually have been spent for the benefit of the people instead of the banksters, if it had to be spent at all.

  • @Causarius Whew! Some one sane.

    Hard to say which is worse, Islamist Jihad from without or N. American political views from within.

    If you havn't, read "Capitalism: the Unknown Ideal" (then Atlas Shrugged, Virtue of Selfishness, The Fountainhaed —all by Ayn Rand). CUI draws a very distinct line between Anarchism & a rational government respecting genuine liberty, particularly in its last three articles. Of course, the false dichotomy that is the present Right - Left 'spectrum' falls away.

  • @fburzaco Tha's dam right mo fo !!!

  • This is a horrible fuel source and oil companies don't care. why? because your having to take a large amount of energy just to make that little flame. Electricity is the fuel here, not the salt water.

  • what happened to this? Why am I still paying 3 bucks a gallon?

  • @thejoshfromtexas Oh dude this came out years ago. 5 years is about right. Oil companies block these stuff out. The world is running out of Oil. Which people have no Idea what will happen. There are 5 billion people on this planet that cannot exist without oil. Put it this way a Body Builder who used steroids. Gets really jacked right. Well what happens when he stops. His body turns to fat. That is what America is moving towards. We are in crisis not at the door step.

  • This is the sort of nonsense that happens when ignorant naive reporters meet up with equally clueless "inventors".

  • This man should stick to fighting cancer, clearly he doesn't have an 8 yr. olds understanding of the conservation of energy. His radio waves are consuming FAR more energy that his flame is giving off--I don't need to take measurments to be sure of that.

  • the salt water isn't the fuel, the electricity powering the radio wave generator is, the energy from the salt water is much less than the energy needed to burn it

  • it is not the frq. of signal he is using it is the power in that signal. salt water acts as a capacitor. therefore the it just passes the dc current of that signal. and as it is known since the 19 century , if you pass dc current through water it will brake down the water into its elements.

  • 13.56 MHz 200 watt RF generator .. come on folks we got work to do !!!!!!!

  • On June 24, 2008, Michael Rosbrough wrote

    I was wondering about the potential downside of Mr. Kanzius' de-salinasation(salt water to fire) discovery. If a RF signal, 13.56 MHz, is directed toward a container of salt water which causes the positive electrons in sodium to seperate the hydrogen from the oxygen molecules and burn the hydrogen, why can't we speculate that other objects such as a large body of salt water, the human body or any potential environment where salt and water exist,. ..etc.

  • Cheating: Also energy is used from an external source for creating the radio-wave, Its like doing elektrolysis and burning the gases.

  • doesn't that make clorine gas??

    

  • to finish his what?????

  • and lets suck the oceans, not enought already, fuck people

  • Too bad it takes a big radio wave generator to light the little flame. lol. It's called Energy Returned On Energy Invested, (EROEI) and this example is worse than the Tar Sands. Fossil fuels are great because after millions of years they are a very dense source of fuel. There just isn't any other compound like it in such great quantities.

    Our best bet as oil declines will be a whole lot of energy reduction *and* plastering the deserts of the world with solar panels to feed the rest of us.

  • @alberniweather I know, again another dead end. Waste of time if you have to produce energy to get it. EVERYONE this is NOT the energy crisis answer.

  • @NoctisEreptor Fortunately it is still a discovery, and any innovation made that actually does return on investment usually results from step-by-step progress building upon previous discoveries and ideas and methods.

    So yes, while what this man discovered isn't the immediate solution to an energy crisis, it still may be a step in that direction.

    I really condemn your negative attitude.

  • @KyleStonehouse You WON'T condemn it when you boys run out of OIL! Won't stop you invading other countries for it though eh?

  • @alberniweather exactly........how much energy are they using to power the radio transmitter?

  • @alberniweather Exactly. The same error was made with Cold Fusion, which the media fell for hook line and sinker. Barnum remarked that a sucker was born every minute. That number has grown faster than has the population!

  • @alberniweather OH NO dont tell me we will still be in hock to the arabs even after the oil runs out.

  • @alberniweather hopefully you mean in a Buckminster Fuller way... otherwise, FAIL! XD

  • @alberniweather I just spoke to the lab where John Kanzius was involved regarding said experiment talking with a college of his and the sound of his voice TOLD me he was scared. He told me BULLSHIT! It only took a tiny amount of energy to run it. That he got hate mail from all over because of it.. Even Saudi Arabia called him and wanted to buy it.

    Now his experiment s in the hands of University of PITT under tight control last he heard.

    YOU ARE ALL SICK hiding such info!

  • @alberniweather there is one consistency that can't be ignored since Nicola Tesla brought about the greatest technological shift, every man who dares to interfer with the power industry is silenced. This man had no intention of interfering, he came across this upon accident, and it's only after he died so suddenly that all the test prove "inefficent."

    And for someone who knows so much, why don't you know that solar panels are made from fossil fuels as well?

  • i wonder if using sideband would be better as extra power comes from modulation.

  • Damn are they dumb? They are not getting energy from water. You need to power the radio wave producer... It would cost more to run than gas. Interesting, but you would never fuel a car with it.

  • is that "piezonuclear"?

  • The water isnt a fuel, its a catalyst for use in an efficient electric car.

  • it actually requires more energy than it makes... but really kewl

  • Imagine a terrorist getting the hands on that and putting the sea on fire ._.

  • sounds like the basis of electrolysis

  • step in the right direction

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  • International water can be used to manufacture hydrogen. Harnessing energy from the sun, wave, and wind can produce the electricity to convert the water to hydrogen. The hydrogen can be flown to the mainland via airships.

    E-T

  • @etellurian yea, but for the same it costs me to do all that, I can make much much more just drilling for oil.

  • volopok is spot on. any of you ever used a microwave? Its an incredible invention. It makes water boil and produce steam, which again could be used in a turbine!!!!!

    oh wait, a microwave needs power to do so? huh yes. Oh, wait

    a "rf" generator is what exactly? yup - same techniq as microwave.

    a radio amplifier, a osscillator - powerful transistors or tubes.

    nothing the germans havent already used in ww1

  • sustainability, efficiency and abundance are enemies of the profit scarcity structure.

  • The same stupidity is in distruction of the cancer cells using a combination of nanotechnologies with radiowaves.

    The problem is not only to distroy the cancer cells but to prevent their formation in the body...(if realy exist a disease so called :cancer)

    

  • @pavel2956 cancer is future genome mutation. and you cannot heal anthing that has not yet happened.

    its unbelievable what the TV audience is ready to believe.

  • There is an idea but a very distructive one, far to be a green energy is just another pollution.

    Burning the ocean water (by separation of water and Na) and transforming it in NaOH, or polluting fresh waters with NaCl and transform it in salted water and then at the end NaOH is stupidity.

  • One such use for this device is in a nuclear submarine, where they can at least produce oxygen from sea water using this method, depending on the quantity and their ability to separate the oxygen from the hydrogen while under water.

    I am sure that we are close to discovering how to make a fusion reactor that is actually practical.

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  • ever heared of a super cool invention called microwave? same thing or not?

  • I wonder how the MIT and all science guys don't see it : it' electrolysis , the same stuff as pulling 2 electrolysed plates through a water tank . If you lookup in the 10 th grade physics book , you will somewhere find "Electric current will occur through any conductor that is emerged in an electromagnetic field " . As salt increases the conductivity of water , the current that occurs in the salt water makes it release burning gases. I will upload a response with a vid explanation , if agreed .

  • Sounds like an induction heater, but the use of it for killing cancer cells sounds good.

  • they wrote on national geographic about this. they tell hydrogen and oxygen is being produced (which burns). so it is just another hydrogen cell converting electricity into gas.

  • That's amazing; you can take salt water and separate the hydrogen from the oxygen; then it will burn and convert to water again. That's quite a process to convert salt water to distilled water. A physics education would be very useful for this gentleman. A desalination plant can do it much cheaper!

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  • Although it is true that it uses more energy than it creates, so does ALL other form of engine. The point is this is an efficient way of turning electrical energy + chemical energy into mechanical energy. This is an improvement on the method used by the combustion engine, it being more efficient and having no greenhouse emissions.

  • @SphinCorp he's using salt water, so he's also making chlorine gas. last i heard, that wasn't so green

  • @SphinCorp

    well, unlike petrol, where you can just make it and then set it alight, this salt water requires the microwaves to be constantly targeting the water to keep it burning. and you need energy to make the microwaves, which means you need another power source. which means that this salt water is just fancy wiring. not good if you still have to lug around either an electrical battery or a petrol combustion engine.

  • couldn't he light small amounts of the ocean on fire with that

  • As a physicist I have to ask, how is this new? Radio frequency electrolysis has been known for a while, It just isn't very efficient.

  • all we need to know is how many frequency and power of the radio wave.

    how to burn water without expensive radio generator?

  • There's no doubt the process works however the radio waves are generated from a large 'microwave' type unit. Not practical in an automobile if the radio generator needs several kilowatts to operate. Good luck with trying to run that off a car alternator. Hopefully he'll find a way round this.

  • canser saved our world:D

  • in 2012 some body will use the frequency waves to ignite the oceans and we will all parish.

  • yeah water from the Mexican Gulf ^^

  • quick...he's got a fluorescent light bulb...arrest that man!!!

  • water do not burn at this video. it gas (h2o)

  • theres like 800 holes in this story.

    the process is utilising a net input of energy,

    why would micro fragments of metal be attracted to only the bad cells?

    hes just an old coote playing around with high school information.

    one interesting question is how much was that douche bag paid to sit there and smile and say its amazing.

  • the only reason we don't have solar power is because of corporate greed.

  • Un llamado a la mesa. All inspierd, proactive and interdependent minds will report to the black and white room for a meeting of the minds. Our world is being destroyed. Are we just going to sit around and let them devastate our kingdom? Will we have the curage and iniciative to find a solution?

  • lol what if he burned the ocean...

  • What the fuck is going on here? He's clearly not burning salt water alone, so stop saying that he is!

  • Carefull what you wish for John, you might remember a fellow American who made a car which ran on water and was found dead from food poisoning after meeting with big oil companies. There's good reason why these inventions don't ever make it out....there is too much money to be lost.

  • why dont we use this ina bigger scale and run it through the water and burn off the oil that is destorying our world.

  • @xCRASHxOVERIDE oil is not destroying this world, u and the rest of humanity are

  • too bad this "true american innovator" will be silenced by his own government and this will probably never ever be used in a real practical situation, because the government doesn't make any money off of it.

  • @thumasta666 He's already dead...and when has the Government ever had an issue with finding ways to make money off anything?

  • @thumasta666 ur an idiot

  • i don't understand why people think this is retarded or stupid. this is amazing stuff

  • @glitchTF it takes more energy to split water than it produces, so yea its garbage

  • All of you who say this invention is god sent.. your one of those sheep.. i

  • son of a(n) Einstein

  • why is everyone hating on this guy hes a true inspiration what have any of you done to help this race

  • @ptizzle171 do ur research, this shits not gonna help us

  • if this guy or somebody can implement this idea into a functional new way on running cars or anything else, probably it wont make it to the market or mass productions. The money that is moving the world is coming from fuel, just imagine the top heads won't be so happy if nobody is buying their gas. but probably the government would use it first in the army . well that's what i think

  • @POLLUSKY it wont work, more energy is put into splitting water than wat it produces.

  • This woman looks like idiot.

  • so this guy invented the microwave...

    btw, if your hand is wet and you put it in that shit you will lose a hand

  • energy put into radiowave machine is much more than energy of radiowaves coming out of machine, which much more than the energy of the flame, which is much more than the useable energy of the flame, which is much more than the energy mechanically derived from the flame......

    perhaps as a cure for cancer.... the beam would need to be rather concentrated, and very frequency specific.

  • I could see evil masterminds making giant radio wave generators to light the oceans on fire.

  • to finish what?! what?! oh god we will never know!

  • obviously the world isnt the same after all this teras after the video released, amazing

  • how much power does it take to power the machine that generates the radio waves, is it more energy than the flame the salt water generates?

  • @cellocraze yes

  • Why is this not implemented yet???? Oh way... Money is an issue with some businesses... Never mind!

  • Folks over at the physics forum thought the process was inefficient.

    If engineers could make this work as a source of power, I think they would have by now.

  • really and how do you sell salt water?

  • We are still using gas because the big gasoline and oil companies catch wind of this, cut the guy a fat check, put his idea on a shelf and the world keeps on going like it never happened.

  • @DCtheory ideas like this are moronic and stupid.

  • So... with THIS, Propane, and so much else...

    WHY ARE WE STILL USING GAS?

  • lol....you can do this with a pickle....put 110V in a pickle and the salt in it and it glows like a light bulb

  • lol he's using more energy than hes making that's why no ones heard of it, it doesn't make energy; it just uses it.

  • @volopok

    you can't make energy

  • @ANiChowy not what i ment i guess the correct term would be storing, but i dont reamember because i watch this like 2 months ago

  • @volopok al gasoline does is ignites, stays on fire and keeps the motor running. Replace gas with altered water, you still have the fluid to ignite and run the motor...

  • @penguin311magic wtf does that have to do with what i said? i think i was talking about he put shit loads of energy to store in the water and got less energy back whan he burned it.

  • @volopok even though still, why aren't people using it to cure cancer? :/

    ** just asking not having a go or out....

  • @volopok Energy is always converted and never lost.

  • @danielflynn3 Thank you now i know that you know something about energy, unfortunately you don't understand efficiency yet. It doesn't make sense because its like running a massive generator that produces very little energy for how much gas it consumes to power your electric car. My point is it doesn't make sense because he's waisting energy.

  • @danielflynn3 YOUR A TOOL "welcom to dans hardware store we specialize in TOOLS"

  • @danielflynn3 and when energy goes into places or is transfered into things you dont want it to, its called "waste." How much wave energy is passing through the water, not to mention if any is converted into heat. That is all "wasted" energy.

  • @volopok Ermmm it's water, there's oceans full of the stuff.

  • @TheKirk15 to many people writing comments while high or stupid

  • @volopok you got this right on. This is the reason the hydrogen car has failed so far. the car and idea is amazing, but its fuel takes extremes amount energy to produce. Its like somone doing a $100 worth of work and only getting paid $20. And producing hydrogen in this way is no better than splitting water with electricity. VERY inefficient!  people Don't understand. its a very neat and cool idea and a step in the right direction. But no amazing energy breakthrough.

  • @kevinander77 you obviiously didn't watch this video at all this machine that was created was made from pans and wire which isn't all that hard also watch and see that there was even electricity distrubuted through the machines radio beam and to power that machine i can bet that it was only 110-120v with maybe 11-14amps input

  • @PHi11yV3ga Its Basic high school physics. 110-120v at 11-14 amp equalls between 1200-1700 watts of electical energy used to run the machine that makes the water burn. NOW he can not use that tiny burning salt water flame to even get 5% back of the electricity he using to keep the water burning . His method wastes far more energy than what can be used. Its amazing discovery, but untill he can get his power input to less than 50 watt it is not going to help anyone.

  • @kevinander77 yup, its just wireless electrolysis.

  • "most abundant element in the world - water"

    stupid Americans.

  • He was referring to Nature's elements. Earth, Fire, Wind and Water....