LiquidTLO -TheLittleOne- (Z) VS ROOTdrewbie (T) G1 Part 2 [Starcraft 2]

[shorty235z]

Ultralisks, so soft and squishy...

so unfair. :(

[Giriath1]

I'm thinking TLO should have transitioned into a few Brood Lords or used baneling drops to get rid of the tanks and/or soften up the MMM ball to be cleaned up by his roaches and infestors.

[scoza]

What the...this vid is not html5 anymore...guess iPad users can't watch it now..sigh

[standupguygt]

You're getting much better at commentating but I think you would benefit from watching the gsl. Artosis has a good grasp on the game while tasteless does pretty well on watching the minimap and focusing on where the most important action is.

Run through the replay before doing the commentary and make sure you at least attempt to find a reason that players do what they do. A big issue was the drops. Extra mobility and splitting tlo's army won the match for drewbie.

[standupguygt]

@standupguygt This was why drewbie did the hellion drop on the main. At best he could get some crazy worker harass, at the worst he could split tlo's army(what happened).

and early expanding early is preparing for the long game, not short game. Idk if you just said that wrong by mistake. You also didn't mention that he was transitioning from mech to bio or the attacks that took out tlo's 4th and production buildings (which is why you couldn't find the infestation pit, it was being rebuilt.

[thoeezheeah]

i think late game zerg is either ultra or bl. if what you've chosen doesn't work for whatever reason, be prepared to lose and most likely be rolled

[Barbadian2k8]

Excellent cast Hydra you are slowly becoming one of my favourites. What an exciting game, too. Drewbie as an 'up and coming' player did extremely well vs TLO. Shame about TLO's unit composition and smaller eco, though i liked his aggressive expanding - just don't forget, extra expo's are pointless without workers!

[Kogerii]

@Barbadian2k8

For zerg, extra hatcheries can always be used to increase your unit production. You don't want your worker count to supply block you and you can always move the drones from a mined-out location to one of the new bases. After 2 expos, esp. if one's high-yield, I wouldn't build drones to saturate a fourth mineral field. Terrans can always recycle their CCs but toss and zerg have to make excess expos before they need them to save time later.

[atttt5]

That was the most amazing roach/ zergling/ and ultra combination

most zerg beleive as soon as the first 3 ultras come out they will be able to take care of marine/ marauder balls but TLO was smart enough to know better and put them into good army composition

but really Ultras are awesome exceptt they are useless once they reach the lower health points since they have so much health and they don't regnerate fast enough ... they should make them like roaches so they are much more effective

[linenlines]

ultras are very bad for their cost, remember a thor is same price as ultra, and ultras do much less damage

and who makes more than 3 infestors! lol he made 10 infestors at one stage

bad unit combination for TLO, didnt even make banelings man

[standupguygt]

@linenlines Well tlo just loves infestor play no matter what. Think its his way to force creativity and cuteness into a race that just doesn't support it too well. I love my zerg though, For the Swarm!

But baneling nest so late! I know drewbie wasn't bioheavy until late but come on, its always a good idea zvt

[tomson600]

I have been watching TLO get beaten the last five games i have watched. Seems that he is always being defensive, while his opponents continuously do drops and harass. It seems that the steady push for position is no longer an effective way to win... you may gain ground but your opponents are able to drop, harass and retreat... crippling your econ. just say'n.

[shoelace510]

@tomson600 I think maybe his mindset is just too Terran seeing as he used to be one of the best in that race. Maybe he just needs some more time to get the Zerg mindset. ^^ Just a thought...

[Didgaraya]

Entertainment-wise it's best game I've seen so far.

[KingStuartPhD]

TLO didn't have enough workers, even though he had 3 bases for ages he had so few drones he may as well have only had 2.

[Dardan333]

Have to agree that TLO lacked in the harass. Would have been nice to see mutas perhaps - muta banelings wouldve worked pretty well against Drewbie's MMM (even though he had a few tanks they were often out of position and prone to roach sniping anyways, just imagine what mutas wouldve done to them). Not that fond of Ultras to be honest, especially as he was acting defensively throughout the whole game and once a few Planetaries are set up, ground attacks are rather null and void.

[lunaretic3]

@Luke1d20

drewbie also had tanks and hellions. not to nitpick just sayin,

[sandjora]

xHydrax, what helped Drewbie to advance, beside his really great micro, is his number of mediavacs healing the MMM ball.

[meatissodumb]

glad tlo lost. he's bm

[meatissodumb]

tlo going for his 5th base? surprised he's going for mass macro play? dude, drewbie was taking his 4th, so thats normal for tlo to get his 5th. nothing unordinary. i can see zerglings going across the map, i don't need you to tell me. are starcrat commentaries for blind people, because if you have eye sight i see no need to watch this shit.

[lunaretic3]

@meatissodumb

damn dude, relax. you don't have to watch it. it's not easy to cast such an action filled game, he was probably in a talking rhythm.

[memokk]

now FG dont affect air units lol

[murrymurrymurrymurry]

nice game really dont like terran -.-

[bobocheng0504]

TLO makes me want to play zerg....

[Fiishylol]

Part 1 is private and only viewable on your page.

TLO didnt harras at all, the only agression he took was expanding and never hurting the terran with it, he used all his income to defend constantly. And as for the Marauders vs Ultralisks, yes in a straight matchup the marauders win but the fungal growth played a big part aswell as the ling surround.

[xHydrax]

@Fiishylol Trying to figure out whats going wrong and seems like theres more people having the same problem on the videos they upload. I changed it to public 10 times already and it shows as public but then when i click on the video it says its private. If youtube doesnt fix it i'll have to upload it again

[atttt5]

@Fiishylol the reason Zerg cannot harass the terren is because of his army composition, unlike terren units Zerg cannot snipe an expo as fast and run where as terren could drop 8 stimed marauders and take out a hatch with ease -- and only unit that is capable of harassing are mutas and they become useless against marine / marauder balls

[amazingdany]

Should've stopped terran productivity.

[xHydrax]

Getting ready for the incoming bash and debate, let me just set my thought process while i was shoutcasting so you all can rip it apart:

MMM balls (specially marauder heavy) are effective agaisnt small numbers of Ultralisks if stimmed and properly microed so they dont get surrounded. On this match situation the Ultras were even backed up by roaches and infestors.

Fire away tell me what you think.

[JPhish]

@xHydrax  i'm thinking that ultralisks are too weak

[Kogerii]

@xHydrax

It seems like the DPS of MMM is high enough it can counter any other unit mix. Whenever there's a contest of "who can destroy the base the fastest" MMM will win.