LOL, the 8th Doctor Who was my favorite. Not sure if he even had a tv series but the movie was great...at least I thought so anyway. I love Dr Who but one thing I don't like is how the BBC feels the constant need to insert anti-christian, anti-God bias into almost every episode. If you don't believe in God fine, but stop ridiculing those who do. Anyway , other than that I think Dr Who is great,lol. Glad you enjoy it. As for tv I prefer the 70's. Miss the Waltons and Little House,lol.
@jfranklins I haven't seen the 8th Doctor...I started with the 9th, the new series, but maybe after I catch up I'll go back and watch the old ones. I haven't noticed anti-christian/god bias. I wonder if it was more with the old series? I just asked boyfriend if he noticed any, he mentioned an episode we watched recently where the Doctor faces a "satan" figure...which we think the episode perhaps implies, in that world, that there is a "god" figure as well.
@alyiswriting Sorry it took so long to reply. The anti-God bias is sometimes subtle rather than overt, but it is there. Anyway it's a good show which I enjoy it despite it's flaws,lol. By the way, the 8th Doctor's only appearance was in an American made for tv movie (Julia Roberts brother Eric Roberts played the bad guy,lol) which was a pilot for a new Doctor Who series, which sadly, never was produced. It's sad because the actor playing Dr Who was great. Just a little Dr Who trivia for you :)
The ninth Doctor is awesome. Everyone's just obsessed with David Tennant because he was the last one, and Matt Smith because he's the current one. People just move on so quickly.
As for TV watching....I think we'll all want a little bit of holodeck time 20 years from now.
@EXgamers1 A yearly conference for youtubers in California, with talks and musical performances and getting to meet people you've only seen on youtube. Or so I've heard...I've never been.
i'm not sure that passivity & interactiveness are entirely opposites. some interaction (e.g. Facebook/YouTube liking) seems inherently more passive than, say, engaging with thoughts another person has shared, whether with others (in which case it's clearly not passive because active communication is involved) or sola. disclaimer: i'm coming from a place of immersion in self-involved projects now, where most of my active processing is self-imposedly introverted-- even if products may be shared.
@KaliCarys That's a good point, and after making this video I thought a lot about what really constituents as interacting anyways. I've definitely actively engaged with information myself, just in my head or on paper, without interacting with other people, and it does seem that that should count as interactiveness...
So I would argue that the prominence of these kinds of "do your job, go home, come back tomorrow" work environments definitely contributes to intellectual disengagement being not only commonplace but acceptable. Even...respectable? I have known people who took great pride in the fact that their worth is in their many years dedicated to a company and not their personal intellectual or creative accomplishments.
Well, I wont presume to speak for everyone who is not self employed, or who works for a corporation. But I'll say at least in my previous job, there was very much a focus on following direction and processing a work load, and intellectually, it was rather passive. Not to say there was never room for thought or innovation, but it was not the primary focus of daily work, and in many ways it was easy to feel programmed, and generally disengaged.
I think there will always be a good number of shows that do not offer any interactive elements. There will be people that create communities around these shows like forums and fan fiction but I think there will be shows that have a strong enough narrative contained within itself that online bonuses and whatnot will not be needed. Obviously this doesn't go for competition shows which have gained a huge following over the past few years.
strangely enough I find myself looking for a comment thread at the bottom of EVERY webpage now- its become instinct to me to want to know what other people think about a subject.
I don't own a tv, but I think I would be frustrated at the lack of an opportunity to discuss or respond the content.
@spiderplant3 I do that too! And even pages that have comment threads, I'm often disappointed because the comments are irrevelant or don't add anything to the conversation.
I suppose I still enjoy watching TV because I generally only ever watch when I'm with another person, so we can discuss the show together afterward.
@alyiswriting DO IT! I live 15 mins from where VidCon will be next year. I'm hoping I'll be able to host a place for some people. (Mostly those I trust) I'd let you crash with me. We'll see how the year goes.
@Brittanysofficial Ooh, that could maybe be awesome. Yeah I think I will just buy a ticket, things just tend to work out. So was vidcon (this year) amazing? Are you going to make a video about it?
Im reading those books as well. You should check out the art of nonconformity by chris guillebeau. Also, how to make a living without a job by barbara j. Winter
I much prefer watching YouTube videos (whether they're full-blown productions, or great vlogs like this) over TV now. I rarely watch TV, it's just not as creative. TV won't become a thing of the past, it will always be around in some form. But eventually, 'internet-TV' will take over, complete choice over what and how you watch, not just an 'on-demand' service, but more like YouTube.
@nevernevereverland That's sort of how I feel, but I also place importance in other things in life. Like I really want a family someday, so even if I love the work I'm doing, I wouldn't want to be doing it so much that it consumes all the time I might otherwise be spending on strengthening/enjoying a relationship, etc...
well "passive tv/movie watching where I'm just consuming has never felt that passive to me- because i'm always thinking about the characters, the relationships, the themes, the lessons, etc. and I usually end up discussing those with friends and family right after or later on. I can still get into passionate discussions on boys Rory dated on gilmore girls and why...
or if not taking something "serious" away, just enjoying the laughter and the fellowship of sharing it with someone else
@erni414 I feel the same way, which gets me thinking about what is really considered "passive" consumption and what is not...I'm not entirely sure on the author's definition. If a TV show leads to a compelling discussion with friends then it really doesn't seem like it's such a passive experience.
Perhaps there will be a balance of passive and interactive media consumption. In the same way that some people hate turning the pages of a book and would rather listen to a reading of it, I think people might also opt to sit back and let a YouTube playlist (or something similar) direct their consumption. It seems there will always be a choice between the two.
@DavidVlogs I agree. Perhaps more things will have more interactive elements, but maybe more passive elements as well. In the future I imagine we'll have more choices and can decide ourselves how interactive we want to be.
As someone who both makes YouTube videos, and loves film I can safely assume that passive media consumption will never fully die out. Yes, I do think interaction will become more popular. I don't watch much TV (mainly because there's not very many programs I enjoy), but I do watch a lot of YouTube. I try my best to interact with the YouTuber as much as I can. But sometimes I get lazy, consume the content, and click away.
Yeah, I'm having trouble totally understanding the concept I think. Movies/shows aren't interactive while you're watching them. I imagine we'll always be going to movie theaters to sit and watch and enjoy. But you choose how much you want to interact. For instance, not many people go to movies alone. I like to have people over for a movie and then drink tea after and talk about it. I agree with you. I just want to sit on my butt, watch and eat chips.
@ShortenDavid Yeah, it really depends a lot on your definitions of "passive" and "active" media consumption. Is "active" watching a video, thinking things over, and posting a response? Or is watching a movie and then discussing it with a friend "active"? Even if you don't talk to anyone about the movie, the fact that your brain is thinking during the movie, making new connections, responding positively or negatively to things...is that "active"?
I agree with you. I can see passive TV watching fading away, but never fully disappearing. I rarely watch TV. The only time I way I watch shows is through Netflix, which I guess is still passive. My consumption of media via YouTube and more "interactive" means is far greater though. Something I've noticed is a significant age division in passive vs. interactive media consumption. Maybe as the older generations go, they will take the passive forms of consuming media with them. Interesting topic!
@nerdlie I generally only watch TV shows through instant netflix too, and usually the entire series in a short amount of time. And I've found when you do this, you become very involved with the show and the characters, and you think a lot about it even when you're not watching it...and thus is becomes more "active" media consumption. And I definitely agree about the older generations, a large part because they weren't exposed to more interactive media for the majority of their lifetimes!
I spent the majority on youtube,FB and 360/Netflix but mostly because the series i watch are finished or are comming back this Sept. So nope no t.v. yet but i really cant waite for the Walking Dead to come back in OCT :)
Tv watching will eventually become a thing of the past. I believe that youtube will grow and expand and essentially become a more open and interactive version of tv. Just look at the response to vidcon. I believe people will become more social than before by meeting many new people through things such as vidcon. I also think that people will start to use youtube as a fun way to exercise. I use it to copy choreography and it makes me feel good to get exercise and have fun all while being online.
I doubt we will ever completely get away from passive media; vegging is just to fun. But that makes me think: I'm not sure that all the things that we typically consider to be passive media are really passive. Watching TV, for example, doesn't have t be passive. We very rarely just receive, we receive and we process. We form opinions about what we watch, we talk about it, and sometimes we even adjust our lives based on what we see.
@justinhabit Yeah, I was thinking about that a bit as I was making this. And I definitely agree, everything I watch or read I actively ponder, make associations with, and/or discuss with others. I just didn't get the sense from "Evil Plans" that that was what Hugh MacLeod was talking about when he said there wouldn't be passive media consumption, so I didn't address it.
yeah.. i've progressively quit watching tv as i watch more and more vlogs. I find it more interesting because it's people and i've always thought that other people were extrememly interesting. I still like tv though when i've had information overload. I do think media will become more interactive because people like feeling like they have their say or are appart of something, but i dont think everything will be, like movies- they will always be around.
@PipeManChuck Of course I do! And I agree with your point. :)
alyiswriting 5 months ago
By the way , Paul McGann was the 8th Doctor...people forget about him it seems ,lol.
jfranklins 6 months ago
LOL, the 8th Doctor Who was my favorite. Not sure if he even had a tv series but the movie was great...at least I thought so anyway. I love Dr Who but one thing I don't like is how the BBC feels the constant need to insert anti-christian, anti-God bias into almost every episode. If you don't believe in God fine, but stop ridiculing those who do. Anyway , other than that I think Dr Who is great,lol. Glad you enjoy it. As for tv I prefer the 70's. Miss the Waltons and Little House,lol.
jfranklins 6 months ago
@jfranklins I haven't seen the 8th Doctor...I started with the 9th, the new series, but maybe after I catch up I'll go back and watch the old ones. I haven't noticed anti-christian/god bias. I wonder if it was more with the old series? I just asked boyfriend if he noticed any, he mentioned an episode we watched recently where the Doctor faces a "satan" figure...which we think the episode perhaps implies, in that world, that there is a "god" figure as well.
alyiswriting 6 months ago
@alyiswriting Sorry it took so long to reply. The anti-God bias is sometimes subtle rather than overt, but it is there. Anyway it's a good show which I enjoy it despite it's flaws,lol. By the way, the 8th Doctor's only appearance was in an American made for tv movie (Julia Roberts brother Eric Roberts played the bad guy,lol) which was a pilot for a new Doctor Who series, which sadly, never was produced. It's sad because the actor playing Dr Who was great. Just a little Dr Who trivia for you :)
jfranklins 5 months ago
The ninth Doctor is awesome. Everyone's just obsessed with David Tennant because he was the last one, and Matt Smith because he's the current one. People just move on so quickly.
As for TV watching....I think we'll all want a little bit of holodeck time 20 years from now.
RitchandFamous 6 months ago
vid con?
EXgamers1 6 months ago
@EXgamers1 A yearly conference for youtubers in California, with talks and musical performances and getting to meet people you've only seen on youtube. Or so I've heard...I've never been.
alyiswriting 6 months ago
i'm not sure that passivity & interactiveness are entirely opposites. some interaction (e.g. Facebook/YouTube liking) seems inherently more passive than, say, engaging with thoughts another person has shared, whether with others (in which case it's clearly not passive because active communication is involved) or sola. disclaimer: i'm coming from a place of immersion in self-involved projects now, where most of my active processing is self-imposedly introverted-- even if products may be shared.
KaliCarys 6 months ago
@KaliCarys That's a good point, and after making this video I thought a lot about what really constituents as interacting anyways. I've definitely actively engaged with information myself, just in my head or on paper, without interacting with other people, and it does seem that that should count as interactiveness...
alyiswriting 6 months ago
whats a book? i dont read books couse there gay lol.
cmguitar1 6 months ago
So I would argue that the prominence of these kinds of "do your job, go home, come back tomorrow" work environments definitely contributes to intellectual disengagement being not only commonplace but acceptable. Even...respectable? I have known people who took great pride in the fact that their worth is in their many years dedicated to a company and not their personal intellectual or creative accomplishments.
froggyhare46 6 months ago
@froggyhare46 That's so interesting. And upsetting-sounding, at least to me...
alyiswriting 6 months ago
Well, I wont presume to speak for everyone who is not self employed, or who works for a corporation. But I'll say at least in my previous job, there was very much a focus on following direction and processing a work load, and intellectually, it was rather passive. Not to say there was never room for thought or innovation, but it was not the primary focus of daily work, and in many ways it was easy to feel programmed, and generally disengaged.
froggyhare46 6 months ago
I think there will always be a good number of shows that do not offer any interactive elements. There will be people that create communities around these shows like forums and fan fiction but I think there will be shows that have a strong enough narrative contained within itself that online bonuses and whatnot will not be needed. Obviously this doesn't go for competition shows which have gained a huge following over the past few years.
EricsEveryNewDay 6 months ago
strangely enough I find myself looking for a comment thread at the bottom of EVERY webpage now- its become instinct to me to want to know what other people think about a subject.
I don't own a tv, but I think I would be frustrated at the lack of an opportunity to discuss or respond the content.
spiderplant3 6 months ago
@spiderplant3 I do that too! And even pages that have comment threads, I'm often disappointed because the comments are irrevelant or don't add anything to the conversation.
I suppose I still enjoy watching TV because I generally only ever watch when I'm with another person, so we can discuss the show together afterward.
alyiswriting 6 months ago
I don't believe that most kids are on TV, but I too I'm biased.
Brittanysofficial 6 months ago
You better be at VidCon next year!
Brittanysofficial 6 months ago
@Brittanysofficial Seriously. I'm gonna have to just buy a ticket as soon as they go on sale, and figure it out from there!
alyiswriting 6 months ago
@alyiswriting DO IT! I live 15 mins from where VidCon will be next year. I'm hoping I'll be able to host a place for some people. (Mostly those I trust) I'd let you crash with me. We'll see how the year goes.
Brittanysofficial 6 months ago
@Brittanysofficial Ooh, that could maybe be awesome. Yeah I think I will just buy a ticket, things just tend to work out. So was vidcon (this year) amazing? Are you going to make a video about it?
alyiswriting 6 months ago
@alyiswriting Watch my latest video haha "America needs to get a f*cking backbone." My VidCon experience is there.
Brittanysofficial 6 months ago
@Brittanysofficial Oh cool I'll watch it now, for some reason I didn't see that one in my subscriptions, just the kinky sex one hahaha
alyiswriting 6 months ago
Im reading those books as well. You should check out the art of nonconformity by chris guillebeau. Also, how to make a living without a job by barbara j. Winter
bellavie92 6 months ago
@bellavie92 I loved "The Art of Non-Conformity"...I'm not sure if I read that other one or not, I'll have to look it up. Thanks!
alyiswriting 6 months ago
I much prefer watching YouTube videos (whether they're full-blown productions, or great vlogs like this) over TV now. I rarely watch TV, it's just not as creative. TV won't become a thing of the past, it will always be around in some form. But eventually, 'internet-TV' will take over, complete choice over what and how you watch, not just an 'on-demand' service, but more like YouTube.
rossexton 6 months ago
@rossexton Thanks and I agree, you can even already start to see TV going in that direction with On Demand, Tivo, etc...
alyiswriting 6 months ago
T.V. Is great but the Internet is forever.
12529kg 6 months ago
Stick it to the man. I wouldn't mind working all day long everyday if I was doing something I enjoy and is worth doing.
nevernevereverland 6 months ago
@nevernevereverland That's sort of how I feel, but I also place importance in other things in life. Like I really want a family someday, so even if I love the work I'm doing, I wouldn't want to be doing it so much that it consumes all the time I might otherwise be spending on strengthening/enjoying a relationship, etc...
alyiswriting 6 months ago
well "passive tv/movie watching where I'm just consuming has never felt that passive to me- because i'm always thinking about the characters, the relationships, the themes, the lessons, etc. and I usually end up discussing those with friends and family right after or later on. I can still get into passionate discussions on boys Rory dated on gilmore girls and why...
or if not taking something "serious" away, just enjoying the laughter and the fellowship of sharing it with someone else
erni414 6 months ago
@erni414 I feel the same way, which gets me thinking about what is really considered "passive" consumption and what is not...I'm not entirely sure on the author's definition. If a TV show leads to a compelling discussion with friends then it really doesn't seem like it's such a passive experience.
alyiswriting 6 months ago
big youtube shows have got more views that madmen and mainstream shows, YOUTUBE FTW!! :D
oscar2hot4u 6 months ago
I love the 9th doctor too!
rifsberjasulta 6 months ago
@rifsberjasulta I'm glad I'm not the only one!
alyiswriting 6 months ago
Perhaps there will be a balance of passive and interactive media consumption. In the same way that some people hate turning the pages of a book and would rather listen to a reading of it, I think people might also opt to sit back and let a YouTube playlist (or something similar) direct their consumption. It seems there will always be a choice between the two.
DavidVlogs 6 months ago
@DavidVlogs I agree. Perhaps more things will have more interactive elements, but maybe more passive elements as well. In the future I imagine we'll have more choices and can decide ourselves how interactive we want to be.
alyiswriting 6 months ago
Thank you for making these videos. They all seem to be very thought provoking and even inspirational. Thumbs up! :)
beauravens 6 months ago
@beauravens Thanks so much!
alyiswriting 6 months ago
As someone who both makes YouTube videos, and loves film I can safely assume that passive media consumption will never fully die out. Yes, I do think interaction will become more popular. I don't watch much TV (mainly because there's not very many programs I enjoy), but I do watch a lot of YouTube. I try my best to interact with the YouTuber as much as I can. But sometimes I get lazy, consume the content, and click away.
xLG7526x 6 months ago
@xLG7526x I'm the same way :)
alyiswriting 6 months ago
"And now it's rainiiiiiiing."
Love it.
Yeah, I'm having trouble totally understanding the concept I think. Movies/shows aren't interactive while you're watching them. I imagine we'll always be going to movie theaters to sit and watch and enjoy. But you choose how much you want to interact. For instance, not many people go to movies alone. I like to have people over for a movie and then drink tea after and talk about it. I agree with you. I just want to sit on my butt, watch and eat chips.
ShortenDavid 6 months ago
@ShortenDavid Yeah, it really depends a lot on your definitions of "passive" and "active" media consumption. Is "active" watching a video, thinking things over, and posting a response? Or is watching a movie and then discussing it with a friend "active"? Even if you don't talk to anyone about the movie, the fact that your brain is thinking during the movie, making new connections, responding positively or negatively to things...is that "active"?
alyiswriting 6 months ago
I agree with you. I can see passive TV watching fading away, but never fully disappearing. I rarely watch TV. The only time I way I watch shows is through Netflix, which I guess is still passive. My consumption of media via YouTube and more "interactive" means is far greater though. Something I've noticed is a significant age division in passive vs. interactive media consumption. Maybe as the older generations go, they will take the passive forms of consuming media with them. Interesting topic!
nerdlie 6 months ago
@nerdlie I generally only watch TV shows through instant netflix too, and usually the entire series in a short amount of time. And I've found when you do this, you become very involved with the show and the characters, and you think a lot about it even when you're not watching it...and thus is becomes more "active" media consumption. And I definitely agree about the older generations, a large part because they weren't exposed to more interactive media for the majority of their lifetimes!
alyiswriting 6 months ago
I spent the majority on youtube,FB and 360/Netflix but mostly because the series i watch are finished or are comming back this Sept. So nope no t.v. yet but i really cant waite for the Walking Dead to come back in OCT :)
mgenetiano 6 months ago
Tv watching will eventually become a thing of the past. I believe that youtube will grow and expand and essentially become a more open and interactive version of tv. Just look at the response to vidcon. I believe people will become more social than before by meeting many new people through things such as vidcon. I also think that people will start to use youtube as a fun way to exercise. I use it to copy choreography and it makes me feel good to get exercise and have fun all while being online.
LacieAmaiKoi 6 months ago
I doubt we will ever completely get away from passive media; vegging is just to fun. But that makes me think: I'm not sure that all the things that we typically consider to be passive media are really passive. Watching TV, for example, doesn't have t be passive. We very rarely just receive, we receive and we process. We form opinions about what we watch, we talk about it, and sometimes we even adjust our lives based on what we see.
justinhabit 6 months ago
@justinhabit Yeah, I was thinking about that a bit as I was making this. And I definitely agree, everything I watch or read I actively ponder, make associations with, and/or discuss with others. I just didn't get the sense from "Evil Plans" that that was what Hugh MacLeod was talking about when he said there wouldn't be passive media consumption, so I didn't address it.
alyiswriting 6 months ago
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thepeteris 6 months ago
yeah.. i've progressively quit watching tv as i watch more and more vlogs. I find it more interesting because it's people and i've always thought that other people were extrememly interesting. I still like tv though when i've had information overload. I do think media will become more interactive because people like feeling like they have their say or are appart of something, but i dont think everything will be, like movies- they will always be around.
PerpetualJoy 6 months ago