am I the onyl one who believes that it's a necessary evil what archer done, considering the circumstances, we didn't know about the geth-heretic conflict, and this was a chance to avoid a war with the geth
A bigger concern is what the hell they're gonna come up with once the Reapers have all been blown to kingdom come... "Huzzah, we just blasted million year old machines threatening life as we know it to high heavens. What now? Tea anyone?" I mean, it's kinda hard to invent a new plot without it becoming trivial. Unless ofcourse they invent some way to travel to and explore another galaxy...
@Lamhirrh That's where some of the devs for Mass Effect have said that an MMO seems logical to create after that point. Will they do it? Maybe not, but think... Why do they stop the Reapers? To be able to live on in the galaxy.
@Lamhirrh If they DO blast all the reapers away, which is hard to imagine in itself, I doubt they would do another game, since that has been the main problem in each of the games so far, and in the next.
I think ME3 might suit this classical type of music, from Clint Mansell. It will be the last ever Mass Effect game after all, doesn't that make you wanna weep?
@MrArob29 Using firefox, there is a very useful add-on called DownloadHelper that will allow you to download and convert anything from youtube. Just try and avoid breaking the law while doing it...
i completed the game, is this DLC still worth downloading and playing, i mean was it meant to be some kind of help in the sucide mission? because i done that now
@manz92as manz92 said, it is a stand-alone misson, but it has a good storyline, an actual ending that makes you truly see humanities "dark side". I definitely recommend it.
im a paragon guy....but for a renegade Shepard saving David and doing the paragon interruption Shepard sounds like a renegade... yet i want to know how many ppl save david...thumbs up
Overlord is some of the best DLC for any game out there. (LotSB may be better, but I don't have it). It's one of the only ones that to me felt like it was worth my money. It was fun to play, and the story, whilst short, was moving, interesting, and very well written.
@masterplusmargarita LotSB is good, but has nowhere near the emotional impact of Overlord. I cried at this point, after picking my jaw up off the floor
is just me but i feel that atlas station shuld have being called promethius station and other way around. bechose david reminds lot of promethius. someone who suffers for humanity.
Look at this way, Atlas was expected to hold up the world for the rest of eternity or else it would cave in on itself.
So much pressure was put on Dabid in a similar way, that if he wasn't hooked up to the Geth Network then another all-out war with the Heretic Geth Forces would be inevitable.
The fate of the world on your shoulders, and you have to burden it all for the rest of your life...it seems like a similar connection.
I remember thinking Overlord was only okay...until it came to the ending. That ending has to be one of the most powerful things I've ever seen in a video game, it's just so damn sad.
@hutchy1k94 how could it have possibly been the right choice, if you call his bluff (and it is a bluff) he snaps saying that he is too valuable, he thinks of his brother only as a subject now. the Geth Heretics arnt even a threat anymore (assuming that you did Legions loyalty mission), and the Geth dont want war, hell they preserved the Quarian Homeworld for them.
@Dooland1991 if you hack legion into the flotilla, hidden dialouge of his tells the quarians how the geth only fought because of the 100% chance of the quarians attacking them on sight
@TheLastArchdemon indeed, Legion is my favorite character to bring with me on missions, some of his dialog is just gold :P
but yer so i learned alot about the geth, the annoying thing is i also like the quarians, (well tali :P)
so im hoping i can find a way to get them to end their war int he third one, because if not, i actualy feel that the Geth were wronged by the quarians, (all the geth did was become sentient, and the quarians tried to destroy them because of that)
I really wish I could've killed David, after all, David tried to kill you, you don't just let that slip by after finding out he's got a bunch of tubes in him.
It was not David who tried to kill you, but the rogue VI. You have to understand that David and the VI are not the same identity. David was merely the link between the VI and the geth network. When you saw the flashbacks of David and Archer, that was David trying to get through to Shepard through Shepard's neural implants. But at the same time the geth where still shooting at you, because of the rogue VI.
@MrRan6er Forget it dude, that's how he picks his choice, like you and me... we chose to follow righteous path. He see's anyone is a threat, he wants to remove it without hesitation. We all have a choice to make.
I gave the Collectors base to the Illusive man in ME2.But saved David from his misery.Every alien in my team have survived the mission and are not just loyal but friends.The humans of my team are more than just friends.Though Jack didn't make it.The Shadow Broker is now friend and her base,my second ship.Captain Anderson and Chief Williams still mourned my absence.
If my save games are anything to go by, then let Cerberus and Reapers join hands in ME3,but I would wipe their existence off galaxy
Seems the reapers are getting desperate..Lets get real here. I believe Sovereign stated something along the lines of "Races who needs other races to reproduce are weak" And yet here they are using humans to create a human reaper. Using protheans as collectors to GET the humans. They do nothing themselves. Harbinger assumes control of a collector just to get slaughtered. Not really fighting the good fight. They do what they do because they can. Otherwise, they're not shit. Harbinger is a bitch.
If you drop a child off a roof just for the fun of it, than you're not evil or justified, you're batshit insane. Every action needs a JUSTIFIABLE REASON behind, that said, I can't think of a good reason for dropping a child off a roof.
The Reapers want to destroy everything just because they can, it IS pretty unspeakable and lacks any sense of logic whatsoever. I'm pretty sure you can agree with me here, as can everyone else.
Also, if you dropped a child off a rooftop just for the "fun of it" then you're not doing it right for a reason at all, you're just doing it to get some kind sick humor out of it. Or is that the reason you did it in the first place? But if that is the reason, is it a good one? I did say Good and Evil are relative forces, and that there is no true "right thing". But the action you described seems incredibly disturbing, even if there is no "right thing".
Okay, granted there are contradictions on both our opinions (Good and Evil Relativity, Justifying Ruthless Actions, Non-Absolutionist Justice, Right and Wrong, Attacking With/Without Purpose) I must admit there are flaws in both MY logic and yours. No one's judgement is really "perfect" I guess.
It's just that if I attack you for no apparent reason, wouldn't that make me "Evil"? There would be no jusitification in my action, and even if there was, is it truly justifiable?
Finally, the Reapers want to kill everything just because they feel themselves superior. As degraded as this, it's still a reason to attack; just not a "good" or "right" one, as any logical person would think. (I did say there flaws in my logic after all, so don't point out what I acknowledge.)
Still, the Reapers feel like elements of uncontrolled chaos rather than "Evil Incarnate." However, the Reapers sure have faded the lines of "Insanity" and "Evil" for me. It's weird.
@barraki92 Reapers are more of an element of recycle. I hope a more in depth explanation is given in ME3 but I see them as simply a species that must evolve in order to exist.
D&D --> Dungeons and Dragons --> you know, the game that INVENTED the Law vs Chaos idea?
Again - can't use D&D alignment, which is absolutist (by calling Reapers chaotic) and then argue that good and evil are relative. It's self contradictory.
Doesn't matter now that they're not chaotic but 'the closest thing to evil'... that's kind of what everyone was saying. Most people aren't saying the Reapers are evil incarnate.
And last I checked, Shepard doesn't get the Base. Weird-eyes does.
Good and Evil ARE Relative, it's just a matter of perspective and opinion. For example, I let an entire building of people die to kill the Leader of the Blue Suns, Vido Santiago. At least one hundred people died, but now Vido can never again command slave outposts and cause such inhuman harm. I did what I did to protect the future, and insure the choice I made never has to happen again. The Blue Suns are in disarray now, making their future unclear.
Reapers are sheer chaos, uncontrollable madness that only seeks to further their supposed superiority through sheer force and complete genocide of all things organic. Attacking without purpose is evil, and since the Reapers attack with purpose (albeit an unspeakable one), I can only see them as insane. If I attacked you without purpose, I am evil. If I attack you just because I think you're ugly, I am not evil, but nor am I justified.
What the Reapers intend to do is unforgivable, no one in their right mind would let it come to pass. "Evil" or not, they must be stopped. They attack with the purpose of destroying everything just because they can, which is sheer undadulterated chaos. Chaos has it's place in the Galaxy, but not on such an apocalyptic scale. There must be balance between harmony and chaos, and the Reapers intend destroy that balance.
It's like a nuke. Once you make a nuclear warhead, there are exceedingly few uses of it that can be justified. Using such a weapon anywhere on Earth guarantees fallout, radiation poisoning and unusable land for half a century.
Maybe if used against dangerous space debris, it could be detonated without harming people, but practically everyone that owns such expensive weapons intends them to be -weapons- or deterrents.
Now look at the Illusive Man's track record, and what you just gave him.
Sometimes, the universe, especially humanity is just not ready for certain technologies... No matter if it´s Project Overlord or the Collectors base...
I see no good reasons to focus on those technologies... So my decision was clear.
Looking back at this after beating it, you could kind of see this coming. It's classic science experiment gone wrong plot structure, but it happened in such an unexpected way. I personally did not expect David to still be alive, nor to have to decide what happens to him. And that's what made this part amazing, and Mass Effect 2 incredible as a whole. Oh, and I chose the paragon options.
This is what Cerberus will keep doing if you give them the collector base ... How many humains will be used for test subjects just to figure out how to use the collector stuff
@Leylaashley Even the renegade choice has some good to it. Because it's only one guy, and if you let him stay, he could prevent a war from killing more people.
@SlyTF1 A war of what? The Geth? >> In the end you either rewrite the heratics or destroy them. They arent much of a threat anymore either way you slice it. Letting that poor man go through all that pain and suffering isn't a choice anyone humane would make. Not at the cost of how that poor man is strung up.
@SlyTF1 From the way I understood it the virus Legion talks about spreads through all Heratic platforms. Not just a few dozen, the mission itself wouldn't make sense and Legion and the true Geth wouldn't have much to worry about if it only effected a few. Like I said... Heratics arent much of a threat anymore. Besides if Shepard were real, renegade or not, s/he would be like f-- this noise and take David away
I think this must be 1 in a million. but my little brother's name is David and he got an Autistic handicap! Can you understand how hard it was for me to see the end of this :'((
i thought i never cry again for a video game after metal gear solid for its music "Harry Gregson William Hands Down" and TOP CLASS scenario The God "Hideo Kojima" well I was Wrong,Mass Effect 2:the overlord project is my sec game or dlc wtf that brought me tears...Excellent Combat Music and SCENARIO even if it last 2Hours the money is well worth it and could possibly being a movie in the rights HANDS
This song is perfect for the situation... Its thia type of plot that makes mass effect peefect i almost cried due in part to the song... I love mass effect!
The Collector Base is a sort of "Was Hiroshima's nuking necessary?" debate really. Hell, I was for the nuking, but the Collector Base?
I dunno... if I had the option to turn it over to the Alliance or the Council I would have done it. The man who was eager to use it though? I don't think so. The purpose of a weapon is to not have to use it, that's my belief anyway. Now....David? I see no benefits, only cost. Plus, think about it. How fucked up is it if a Paragon Shepard pistol whips someone?
We all must remember that the Collector Base is NOT "evil".
An object isn't evil, it's the person who uses it who defines what other label it as.
The original use of the Collector Base was indeed an abomination. And I know keeping the Base seems to be disrespecting the lives of those who lost their lives to it.
I know millions died horribly at the Base, but we CANNOT allow our sympathy for the dead to cripple our own survival.
Actually, the Collector Base is very much 'evil'. As a matter of fact, anywhere Husks come out of the walls (and I mean out of the walls, not off of Dragon's Teeth) has got to be 'evil'. Why? Reaper tech. Bioware spends the entire game preaching about the evils of Reaper tech, and how it's just not a good idea to use something we can never fully understand. Hell, there's an entire mission dedicated to this. It's not only an abomination, it's practically Mecha-Cthulu's Abode.
@reydemagival No offense but your opinion sounds like pure idealogical bullshit to me (especially the part about using things "we can never fully understand" part). For the last time, the collector base has no ethical value whatsoever. Husks came of the walls so? Its Reaper Tech and? Nobody says that we need to keep making husks or to keep making people into milkshakes. Things are not evil only things can be used for evil. The whole point is to repurpose it.
@markinator123 The only trouble with your mindset is that the base would go straight to The Illusive Man, and TIM is a batshit crazy racist. If it went to the human government (Anderson, or even Udina) then I might consider keeping the base, but I don't trust TIM; he'd probably try to liquefy other aliens to fight the Reapers.
It's true that Husks were indeed made in the Collector Base, as well as the liquidizing process of humans. However, these instruments were used by the Collectors, not people who want to better the future of humanity and the entire Galaxy.
The whole purpose of keeping the base is to repurpose it so it can be used to protect the future, and not follow such abominable paths like it did before. It's all in the hands of the user.
Perhaps, but Cerberus actually acknowledges the existence of Sovreign and the Reapers; something the Alliance and the Council never did/do.
It's better to put technology to use then blow it up in order to "honor the dead." The people who died at the Collector Base I consider tragedies, but we can't allow personal feelings/empathy to destroy the chances of any future remaining.
Keeping the Base in the least assures that we are prepared for those monsters.
@barraki92 Yes it is Evil , it was made for evil purpose and use by evil people , nothing in this Base could of been use in a good way , their ship however maybe .
It's like in Star Wars if the rebels wanted to have control of the death star , it's just not right isn't ?
And here with David , my choice was made , i couldn't leave him to Cerberus , especially when i had Legion ...
@GabisonStudios Do you realize how ridiculous that logic is? It was used by evil so we should try to destroy it? That is like putting a gun on trial. It makes no damn sense whatsoever. Things are NOT evil and just because something was used for an evil purpose does not mean we can not repurpose it.
You cannot put a gun on trial. Material objects are NOT evil. They can be purposed for evil, but they can be used for good. Plus, "good" and "evil" are just matters of perspective. There is no such thing as TRUE evil or TRUE good. The Reapers just want to kill everything just because they can, more chaotic than "evil" if you ask me. If I shoot a man with a gun, does that make the gun "evil"? Of course not? It was my fault? Therefore, I am "evil", not the weapon.
There isn't such a thing as "true" evil or "pure" good. There is no absolute shade of black or white, EVER.The Reapers are the closest things that come to "evil" since they are not truly PEOPLE.
An sentient race can be considered people, even the more violent races like the Krogan, Batarians, Vorcha, Geth and Yahg.
The Reapers simply want to destroy everything because they believe themselves superior to all.
I will show them with the Base, that they are NOT.
The Collector Base was made for an evil purpose, but whose to say that it cannot be repurposed for a noble cause? A gun is only "evil" in the wrong hands, it cannot be labled "evil"; it is an unfitting and unjust description. It's all a matter of perspective and who is holding and using the gun.
BTW, if the Rebels got control of the Death Star, I'm sure decades of tyranny and future evils could've been prevented; just sayin', like Alderaan for example.
@barraki92 And i also did it for the future , imagine a man like the Illusive man taking control of the collector base , it would of made another Saren who also tried to control Sovereign
Saren's goal was noble, but naive. He WANTED to save the Galaxy, and believed that allying with the Reapers would save the Galaxy from universal genocide. However, such a goal was naive to begin with; the Reapers would've never spared anyone even if Saren's plan was successful.
Plus, Saren was indoctrinated by Sovreign and he didn't even realize it; he thought he was in control. Saren's goal was foolhardy, but at least he had a somewhat noble purpose originally.
The Illusive Man isn't suicidal, he wouldn't try to control the Reapers; no one can. He wants to destroy the Reapers, and possibly gain their technology to establish an extremist human dominance over alien races.
I'm sure the Illusive Man will try something to control the reapers , because if it was only for their technology a simple copy of the collectors data would of been enough to find their weakness ...
Just look his face in the Renegade ending , he's dreaming about power , and i'm sure he won't hesitate to destroy everything (thats basicly what reapers to do organic no?) if it means that humanity will be the 1st power in the galaxy.
My theorie on the Illusive Man is based on the fact that in Mass Effect 3 we we'll fight against Cerberus , we will also fights races (like the batarians) who joined the reapers or try to just put more #### into this mess ( i heard that they will be a loyalty system for species , ex if you saved Wrex who controls the clans and the aaaah don't remember their name insects from Mass Effect 1 , they will fight by your side) and of course the reapers
@barraki92 Of course, considering he was exposed to a Reaper device in the Evolution Comics (years before the games, timeline wise) he might even be sub-consciously working for the Reapers. Glad my Paragon pretty much screwed him at every opportunity.
I swear if is subconciously working for the Reapers and I gave him for the Collector Base, I will kick his ass so bad it's going to look like the Bahak System after the Arrival DLC!
...Too soon? LOL, you might not get the joke if you haven't played Arrival.
Damn, I just realized all the spelling errors in my last post.
But yeah, if the Illusive Man is subconciously working for the Reapers, and betrays me after everything I've done for him, I'm to going to BUTCHER him.
barraki92 @ What you intend to with the base isn't the matter at hand here. Cerberus, the Illusive Man, will hold the Base. You, have no say in what they choose to do with it, and they've proven to have rather...extreme measures in the past.
If the Ilusive Man truly intends to use the base as he sees fit, and does ANYTHING without my jurisdiction or consent...he will die.
He is a valuable asset, but should he try anything without consulting me he WILL regret it. I won't have him use the Collector Base for his own selfish agenda, whilst I agree on the matters of Human Dominance, I will NOT have him put such petty matters over the safety of the Galaxy.
He will NOT have his way, not in that way at least.
Very strong scene. I lay down my arms before the Bioware)
I am renegade, and I always acting very brutal. But this...this was too much, I just can't leave David in there, if there was a way to kill him, to end the nightmare that his own brother create for him- I probably do it. Cause things like this you can't ever forget, it will be always in your head, even if you an autist like David.
So, murder of him- it will be cruel, but merciful as well
i dont know the story but seems really good no game has ever brought me to tears but only few have given me chills and gosebumps ME2 being one of them
as much as I wanted Halo Reach to be best xbox 360 or game of the year, from the story of this, It deserved the prize of best xbox game and it should've been game of the year, not red dead redemption, from a game that had a story so amazing it matched half-life maybe, it is game of the year 2010 material
@roboguy75 plz just dont compare overated fps with this masterpiece here...its like comparing a lada vs a ferrari "scenario wise" halo 1,2 best scenario from all the halo's out there,second mass effect its not a n exclusive its on all platforms so it deserves best game of the year everywhere!!!!! xd.reach is just a big DLC ,the game is a big zero bungie should stop at halo 3 & finaly start a new IP
@shinigamidu13 reach was good, odst was the dlc game, but, yes, mass effect 2 beats all, ps3, cod, gow, it's not about graphics or multiplayer, it's about story and gameplay, this game achieves both
@AltairKamahl I think many people would agree, no renegade player would choose the renegade option for this, if they chose to have archer keep david, then...THEY ARE COLD HEARTED MONSTERS WITH NO SOUL...HE DESERVES TO LIVE FUCK ARCHER, I WOULD HAVE MURDERED HIM BRUTALLY FOR WHAT HE DID >:'(
It isn't harmless. And for all that The Illusive Man and Miranda say about Cerberus and its lofty goals, the fact of the matter is that no organization that does something like this can be good. It just can't.
@CliffDiverBOA I 100% agree. It actually surprises me how much praise the Femshep gets at times over the MaleShep. This scene was a perfect example on what I prefer the MaleShep over the female one.
Yes, keeping the collector base isn't a realy bad decision by itself, but if you don't destroy it where will it go? into the hands of the illusive man. I dunno, but giving so much technology to just one faction? Gotta have some side effects.
@Spaced20 You don't like the Illusive Man with the base fine. Just trust the racist/useless alien council that holds humanity back and likes to benefit from humanity but doesn't help them when they run into trouble. Lets also not to forget to mention that the council is too stagnant and too complacent. I had tears of joy when I let them die. Goodbye and good riddance
I disagree ever so slightly with that judgement. Keeping the Collector Base isn't exactly villainous, it's own seen by others who only play by Paragon options as such.
If we have a base filled with some of the most advanced technology in the Galaxy and its only a matter of time before legions of invincible space Me
This plays in Mass Effect 3, when you're talking to some people in Grissom Academy. I was so overjoyed when I heard it.
littleBEExo 3 hours ago
Just met him on ME3. He's doing just fine. :')
JustFable 3 days ago
am I the onyl one who believes that it's a necessary evil what archer done, considering the circumstances, we didn't know about the geth-heretic conflict, and this was a chance to avoid a war with the geth
Cefoperazon5 2 weeks ago
w8 guys i need some explaining whats going to happen to david seriously is he gonna be a vegitable now D;
TheMango1198 2 weeks ago
@TheMango1198 No read the letter u get after the mission. They say he is gonna be ok :)
razzp25 1 week ago
2 things I learned from this
1) Archer's a dick
2) The square root of 912.04 is 30.2
Lightscribe225 2 weeks ago
@Lightscribe225 3 things I lernt
1.Archer's a dick
2.The square root of 912.04 is 30.2
3.WHY DUH FUK WOULD YOU EXPRIMENT ON GETH
xxadamxx0001 2 weeks ago
@xxadamxx0001 things I learned from this
1) Archer's a unethical dick
2) the sqaure root of 912.04 is OHGODGETHSHOOTSHOOTSHOOT-30.2
3) why would you experiment on a race of macines who hate organics trying to do stuff to them
4) David does like the noise
ragnarocker012 2 days ago
I swear after this DLC I wanted to kill archer for what he did to his brother. he's damn lucky he wasint worth the bullet.
537monster 3 weeks ago
@537monster I struggled to play this DLC as renegade, almost picked the paragon option.
cheesy1231 5 days ago
Nothing to say. Mass Effect is an epic game with a powerful story
callahaine100 2 months ago 2
Kinda reminds me of the theme from Schindler's List.
kimmolind 3 months ago
A bigger concern is what the hell they're gonna come up with once the Reapers have all been blown to kingdom come... "Huzzah, we just blasted million year old machines threatening life as we know it to high heavens. What now? Tea anyone?" I mean, it's kinda hard to invent a new plot without it becoming trivial. Unless ofcourse they invent some way to travel to and explore another galaxy...
Lamhirrh 3 months ago
@Lamhirrh That's where some of the devs for Mass Effect have said that an MMO seems logical to create after that point. Will they do it? Maybe not, but think... Why do they stop the Reapers? To be able to live on in the galaxy.
WoWFanatic5 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@Lamhirrh If they DO blast all the reapers away, which is hard to imagine in itself, I doubt they would do another game, since that has been the main problem in each of the games so far, and in the next.
Goatmon 1 month ago
@Goatmon There is the underlying question of what race created the reapers.
LightStreak567 1 month ago
Mass Effect WITHOUT the famous(\infamous) commander Shepard?
It's like, uh... what would suit you West folks better... Like sex without a partner!
LolestN00B 4 months ago
@LolestN00B Masturbation? Wait, what? ._.
Arctariusv 1 month ago
David... you are not real. But I hope you will be live in a better world for the future. Saddest moment in me2.
elfithefreak 4 months ago
@redtroop909 from the start..."
ArdentProdigy 4 months ago
@ArdentProdigy Er...ignore that comment. It was supposed to be:
I don't think so...words right out of Ray Muzyka's mouth - "Mass Effect was designed to be a *trilogy* from the start."
ArdentProdigy 4 months ago
I think ME3 might suit this classical type of music, from Clint Mansell. It will be the last ever Mass Effect game after all, doesn't that make you wanna weep?
stifflersmum7 4 months ago
This DLC made me cry. as in actually cry.
hinik7 5 months ago 7
"What i have done to David is... unethical."
A million gamers all chant "NO SHIT!" in unison.
Zooftastic 5 months ago 29
@Zooftastic Free David!
Mortacxo 3 days ago
197 people made it stop.
DarkBladeAngel 6 months ago 8
@DarkBladeAngel or did they? *dun-dun-duuuuun!*
legendarycupcake 6 months ago 20
Anyone know how I can download this?
MrArob29 6 months ago
@MrArob29 convert it from video to mp3 format
gundamseedathrun 6 months ago
@MrArob29 Using firefox, there is a very useful add-on called DownloadHelper that will allow you to download and convert anything from youtube. Just try and avoid breaking the law while doing it...
buca117 5 months ago
i completed the game, is this DLC still worth downloading and playing, i mean was it meant to be some kind of help in the sucide mission? because i done that now
manz92 6 months ago
@manz92 No, it's a stand-alone mission, but it's really awesome. You should definitely get it.
MellxDragonPrincess 6 months ago
@manz92as manz92 said, it is a stand-alone misson, but it has a good storyline, an actual ending that makes you truly see humanities "dark side". I definitely recommend it.
gundamseedathrun 6 months ago
Epic Music....
Had to look it up once I heard it in the game.
PurOxYg3n 7 months ago
im a paragon guy....but for a renegade Shepard saving David and doing the paragon interruption Shepard sounds like a renegade... yet i want to know how many ppl save david...thumbs up
spartain555 7 months ago 6
Overlord is some of the best DLC for any game out there. (LotSB may be better, but I don't have it). It's one of the only ones that to me felt like it was worth my money. It was fun to play, and the story, whilst short, was moving, interesting, and very well written.
masterplusmargarita 8 months ago
@masterplusmargarita LotSB is good, but has nowhere near the emotional impact of Overlord. I cried at this point, after picking my jaw up off the floor
intelligentignorance 8 months ago
i wanted to shoot archer on the spot, despite being a renegade
notgayguy222 8 months ago
Just like Prometheus, Cerberus was playing with fire and an innocent man got burnt... until I saved him and pistol-whipped the man responsible.
pb19111 8 months ago
@pb19111 The guy deserved more than a pistol whip. I wished my Shepard could have gunned Gavin down for this atrocity.
markinator123 7 months ago
It all seemed harmless...
MJSpiritual 8 months ago 6
is just me but i feel that atlas station shuld have being called promethius station and other way around. bechose david reminds lot of promethius. someone who suffers for humanity.
gethsoftware 8 months ago 4
@gethsoftware
Look at this way, Atlas was expected to hold up the world for the rest of eternity or else it would cave in on itself.
So much pressure was put on Dabid in a similar way, that if he wasn't hooked up to the Geth Network then another all-out war with the Heretic Geth Forces would be inevitable.
The fate of the world on your shoulders, and you have to burden it all for the rest of your life...it seems like a similar connection.
barraki92reborn 4 months ago
Archer is intresting charecter. what i going trough his mind. i have younger brother my self, and i culd never do this to him.
gethsoftware 8 months ago
I remember thinking Overlord was only okay...until it came to the ending. That ending has to be one of the most powerful things I've ever seen in a video game, it's just so damn sad.
PGCooper1939 8 months ago
What if leaving him with Archer was the right choice...?
hutchy1k94 8 months ago
@hutchy1k94 how could it have possibly been the right choice, if you call his bluff (and it is a bluff) he snaps saying that he is too valuable, he thinks of his brother only as a subject now. the Geth Heretics arnt even a threat anymore (assuming that you did Legions loyalty mission), and the Geth dont want war, hell they preserved the Quarian Homeworld for them.
Dooland1991 8 months ago
@Dooland1991
Just throwing it out there. It's one of those crisese where you may think you made the right decision, but it may only be MORALLY right.
It's not like I agree with it, I mean I made the paragon choice but... I don't even know how to explain what I mean! =P
hutchy1k94 8 months ago
@Dooland1991 if you hack legion into the flotilla, hidden dialouge of his tells the quarians how the geth only fought because of the 100% chance of the quarians attacking them on sight
TheLastArchdemon 8 months ago
@TheLastArchdemon indeed, Legion is my favorite character to bring with me on missions, some of his dialog is just gold :P
but yer so i learned alot about the geth, the annoying thing is i also like the quarians, (well tali :P)
so im hoping i can find a way to get them to end their war int he third one, because if not, i actualy feel that the Geth were wronged by the quarians, (all the geth did was become sentient, and the quarians tried to destroy them because of that)
Dooland1991 8 months ago
well you know what !!!! BAAAAAAA
MrRan6er 8 months ago
I really wish I could've killed David, after all, David tried to kill you, you don't just let that slip by after finding out he's got a bunch of tubes in him.
Jackpot807 9 months ago
@Jackpot807 ur an ass.
MrRan6er 9 months ago 5
@MrRan6er Well theres always the possibility of putting him outa his misery, I can only imagine he was in pain. But hello? He tried to kill you.
Jackpot807 9 months ago
@Jackpot807
It was not David who tried to kill you, but the rogue VI. You have to understand that David and the VI are not the same identity. David was merely the link between the VI and the geth network. When you saw the flashbacks of David and Archer, that was David trying to get through to Shepard through Shepard's neural implants. But at the same time the geth where still shooting at you, because of the rogue VI.
LucvdMortel 8 months ago
@LucvdMortel tl / dr lol
really, i get what you'r getting at
Jackpot807 8 months ago
@MrRan6er Forget it dude, that's how he picks his choice, like you and me... we chose to follow righteous path. He see's anyone is a threat, he wants to remove it without hesitation. We all have a choice to make.
Rocketfist15 9 months ago
The ending to this DLC was my favourite part of the game. Mainly because of the pure emotional intenseity! ^_^
THEDEADSOUNDSTUDIOS 9 months ago 3
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I gave the Collectors base to the Illusive man in ME2.But saved David from his misery.Every alien in my team have survived the mission and are not just loyal but friends.The humans of my team are more than just friends.Though Jack didn't make it.The Shadow Broker is now friend and her base,my second ship.Captain Anderson and Chief Williams still mourned my absence.
If my save games are anything to go by, then let Cerberus and Reapers join hands in ME3,but I would wipe their existence off galaxy
Suddhatma 9 months ago
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Suddhatma 9 months ago
Dr. Archer and the Illusive Man made accounts and Thumbed this video down.
DarkBladeAngel 9 months ago
This music is so beautiful, so sad, always remembers me when i found David. Well done, Bioware, Thank you for Mass Effect series!
mikerowave1986 9 months ago
I love that moment in overlord where you realize that all that incomprehensible screaming was actually "QUIET PLEASE! MAKE IT STOP!"
Guyect 10 months ago
@Guyect
oh yessss
MrTrykster 8 months ago
I cried at the end. This is why I love Bioware.
vampires18 10 months ago
2 people thought it all seemed harmless...
LenferOblige 10 months ago
You know you fucked up when the paragon route is to pistol whip archer
gtgoskate 10 months ago 4
a real "WHAT HAS SCIENCE DONE?!" moment
CorRomeister 11 months ago 6
Quiet, please quiet.
4400Frost0044 11 months ago
Square root of 906.01 equals 30.1... It all seemed harmless.
Neea91 11 months ago 26
Seems the reapers are getting desperate..Lets get real here. I believe Sovereign stated something along the lines of "Races who needs other races to reproduce are weak" And yet here they are using humans to create a human reaper. Using protheans as collectors to GET the humans. They do nothing themselves. Harbinger assumes control of a collector just to get slaughtered. Not really fighting the good fight. They do what they do because they can. Otherwise, they're not shit. Harbinger is a bitch.
infections 1 year ago
1 person disliked this video...must be Archer
UndeadSoviet 1 year ago 6
"Good and Evil ARE Relative, it's just a matter of perspective and opinion."... "I did the right thing."
If good and evil are only opinion, there is no "right thing".
"If I attack you just because I think you're ugly, I am not evil, but nor am I justified."
Ah, so if I drop a child off a roof for the lulz, I'm not justified but I'm not evil. Got it.
"They attack with the purpose of destroying everything just because they can"
You just said their purpose is unspeakable.
...I am amused.
TriniKnight01 1 year ago
@TriniKnight01
I am not here to amuse you.
If you drop a child off a roof just for the fun of it, than you're not evil or justified, you're batshit insane. Every action needs a JUSTIFIABLE REASON behind, that said, I can't think of a good reason for dropping a child off a roof.
The Reapers want to destroy everything just because they can, it IS pretty unspeakable and lacks any sense of logic whatsoever. I'm pretty sure you can agree with me here, as can everyone else.
barraki92 1 year ago
@TriniKnight01
Also, if you dropped a child off a rooftop just for the "fun of it" then you're not doing it right for a reason at all, you're just doing it to get some kind sick humor out of it. Or is that the reason you did it in the first place? But if that is the reason, is it a good one? I did say Good and Evil are relative forces, and that there is no true "right thing". But the action you described seems incredibly disturbing, even if there is no "right thing".
CONTRADICTIONS IMMINENT.
barraki92 1 year ago
@TriniKnight01
Okay, granted there are contradictions on both our opinions (Good and Evil Relativity, Justifying Ruthless Actions, Non-Absolutionist Justice, Right and Wrong, Attacking With/Without Purpose) I must admit there are flaws in both MY logic and yours. No one's judgement is really "perfect" I guess.
It's just that if I attack you for no apparent reason, wouldn't that make me "Evil"? There would be no jusitification in my action, and even if there was, is it truly justifiable?
barraki92 1 year ago
@TriniKnight01
Finally, the Reapers want to kill everything just because they feel themselves superior. As degraded as this, it's still a reason to attack; just not a "good" or "right" one, as any logical person would think. (I did say there flaws in my logic after all, so don't point out what I acknowledge.)
Still, the Reapers feel like elements of uncontrolled chaos rather than "Evil Incarnate." However, the Reapers sure have faded the lines of "Insanity" and "Evil" for me. It's weird.
barraki92 1 year ago
@barraki92 Reapers are more of an element of recycle. I hope a more in depth explanation is given in ME3 but I see them as simply a species that must evolve in order to exist.
FatalFist 11 months ago
D&D --> Dungeons and Dragons --> you know, the game that INVENTED the Law vs Chaos idea?
Again - can't use D&D alignment, which is absolutist (by calling Reapers chaotic) and then argue that good and evil are relative. It's self contradictory.
Doesn't matter now that they're not chaotic but 'the closest thing to evil'... that's kind of what everyone was saying. Most people aren't saying the Reapers are evil incarnate.
And last I checked, Shepard doesn't get the Base. Weird-eyes does.
TriniKnight01 1 year ago
@TriniKnight01
Good and Evil ARE Relative, it's just a matter of perspective and opinion. For example, I let an entire building of people die to kill the Leader of the Blue Suns, Vido Santiago. At least one hundred people died, but now Vido can never again command slave outposts and cause such inhuman harm. I did what I did to protect the future, and insure the choice I made never has to happen again. The Blue Suns are in disarray now, making their future unclear.
I did the right thing.
barraki92 1 year ago
@TriniKnight01
Reapers are sheer chaos, uncontrollable madness that only seeks to further their supposed superiority through sheer force and complete genocide of all things organic. Attacking without purpose is evil, and since the Reapers attack with purpose (albeit an unspeakable one), I can only see them as insane. If I attacked you without purpose, I am evil. If I attack you just because I think you're ugly, I am not evil, but nor am I justified.
This logic applies to the Reapers.
barraki92 1 year ago
@TriniKnight01
What the Reapers intend to do is unforgivable, no one in their right mind would let it come to pass. "Evil" or not, they must be stopped. They attack with the purpose of destroying everything just because they can, which is sheer undadulterated chaos. Chaos has it's place in the Galaxy, but not on such an apocalyptic scale. There must be balance between harmony and chaos, and the Reapers intend destroy that balance.
Therefore, they must be destroyed.
barraki92 1 year ago
Square root of 912.04 is 30.2.... it all seemed harmless...
BlindEleven 1 year ago
It's like a nuke. Once you make a nuclear warhead, there are exceedingly few uses of it that can be justified. Using such a weapon anywhere on Earth guarantees fallout, radiation poisoning and unusable land for half a century.
Maybe if used against dangerous space debris, it could be detonated without harming people, but practically everyone that owns such expensive weapons intends them to be -weapons- or deterrents.
Now look at the Illusive Man's track record, and what you just gave him.
TriniKnight01 1 year ago
root of 930 is 30,2
KeymarsPWND 1 year ago
Sometimes, the universe, especially humanity is just not ready for certain technologies... No matter if it´s Project Overlord or the Collectors base...
I see no good reasons to focus on those technologies... So my decision was clear.
JAGTHEGEMINI 1 year ago
@JAGTHEGEMINI Sounds like idealogical bullshit but whatever
markinator123 1 year ago
@markinator123
It was more of a logical decision... history tends to repeat itself. Proof me wrong.
JAGTHEGEMINI 1 year ago
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markinator123 1 year ago
1 person thought it seemed harmless to click the dislike button. Look where that got him...
Gahro 1 year ago
Dr. Gavin Archer gave the only thumbs down :D
DukeNukem2006 1 year ago 50
@DukeNukem2006 He's the only one who disliked.
caralon3105 1 year ago
@DukeNukem2006 And now secretly the illusive man
revenist 7 months ago
Looking back at this after beating it, you could kind of see this coming. It's classic science experiment gone wrong plot structure, but it happened in such an unexpected way. I personally did not expect David to still be alive, nor to have to decide what happens to him. And that's what made this part amazing, and Mass Effect 2 incredible as a whole. Oh, and I chose the paragon options.
1337ijs 1 year ago
This is what Cerberus will keep doing if you give them the collector base ... How many humains will be used for test subjects just to figure out how to use the collector stuff
Subywoby 1 year ago
"...What I've done to David is unethical. If he dies, it's unforgivable. Let me take care of him. Please."
The talented voice acting really drives the point home.
wertitis 1 year ago
@wertitis "I've seen enough of your cruelty to know he'll never be free from it here. I'm taking him away."
caralon3105 1 year ago
I play Renegade shepard all the time.. but even I had to go with a paragon route with David. I felt so sorry for him, it almost made me cry.
Leylaashley 1 year ago 89
@Leylaashley Even the renegade choice has some good to it. Because it's only one guy, and if you let him stay, he could prevent a war from killing more people.
SlyTF1 1 year ago
@SlyTF1 A war of what? The Geth? >> In the end you either rewrite the heratics or destroy them. They arent much of a threat anymore either way you slice it. Letting that poor man go through all that pain and suffering isn't a choice anyone humane would make. Not at the cost of how that poor man is strung up.
Leylaashley 1 year ago
@Leylaashley I thought it was just some of the Geth that you overwrite.
SlyTF1 1 year ago
@SlyTF1 From the way I understood it the virus Legion talks about spreads through all Heratic platforms. Not just a few dozen, the mission itself wouldn't make sense and Legion and the true Geth wouldn't have much to worry about if it only effected a few. Like I said... Heratics arent much of a threat anymore. Besides if Shepard were real, renegade or not, s/he would be like f-- this noise and take David away
Leylaashley 1 year ago
@Leylaashley
Yeah, even my female Renegade Character was just... Not sure what to do... So sad. :/
JAGTHEGEMINI 1 year ago
@Leylaashley The music made all the difference, but even without it I'd feel sorry for David too.
Sorfex1 10 months ago
@Leylaashley me renegade all the way!
poweroftheatom 10 months ago
@Leylaashley
same, i couldn't do it, especially since my brother is autistic
killersushixx58 9 months ago
I think this must be 1 in a million. but my little brother's name is David and he got an Autistic handicap! Can you understand how hard it was for me to see the end of this :'((
kyhle111 1 year ago 8
@kyhle111 awww man :<
EmoCrusher87 1 year ago
i thought i never cry again for a video game after metal gear solid for its music "Harry Gregson William Hands Down" and TOP CLASS scenario The God "Hideo Kojima" well I was Wrong,Mass Effect 2:the overlord project is my sec game or dlc wtf that brought me tears...Excellent Combat Music and SCENARIO even if it last 2Hours the money is well worth it and could possibly being a movie in the rights HANDS
shinigamidu13 1 year ago
The Colectors base is like the One Ring, evil even i you want to do good things with it, it tempts, gonna make illusive man eak in hes decisons :D
Edgarssprogis 1 year ago
Dr Gavin Archer dislikes this.
TriniKnight01 1 year ago
This song is perfect for the situation... Its thia type of plot that makes mass effect peefect i almost cried due in part to the song... I love mass effect!
MKFan1106 1 year ago
The Collector Base is a sort of "Was Hiroshima's nuking necessary?" debate really. Hell, I was for the nuking, but the Collector Base?
I dunno... if I had the option to turn it over to the Alliance or the Council I would have done it. The man who was eager to use it though? I don't think so. The purpose of a weapon is to not have to use it, that's my belief anyway. Now....David? I see no benefits, only cost. Plus, think about it. How fucked up is it if a Paragon Shepard pistol whips someone?
xDraconianKingx 1 year ago
We all must remember that the Collector Base is NOT "evil".
An object isn't evil, it's the person who uses it who defines what other label it as.
The original use of the Collector Base was indeed an abomination. And I know keeping the Base seems to be disrespecting the lives of those who lost their lives to it.
I know millions died horribly at the Base, but we CANNOT allow our sympathy for the dead to cripple our own survival.
Everything I do, I do for the future.
barraki92 1 year ago
@barraki92
Actually, the Collector Base is very much 'evil'. As a matter of fact, anywhere Husks come out of the walls (and I mean out of the walls, not off of Dragon's Teeth) has got to be 'evil'. Why? Reaper tech. Bioware spends the entire game preaching about the evils of Reaper tech, and how it's just not a good idea to use something we can never fully understand. Hell, there's an entire mission dedicated to this. It's not only an abomination, it's practically Mecha-Cthulu's Abode.
reydemagival 1 year ago
@reydemagival No offense but your opinion sounds like pure idealogical bullshit to me (especially the part about using things "we can never fully understand" part). For the last time, the collector base has no ethical value whatsoever. Husks came of the walls so? Its Reaper Tech and? Nobody says that we need to keep making husks or to keep making people into milkshakes. Things are not evil only things can be used for evil. The whole point is to repurpose it.
markinator123 1 year ago
@markinator123 The only trouble with your mindset is that the base would go straight to The Illusive Man, and TIM is a batshit crazy racist. If it went to the human government (Anderson, or even Udina) then I might consider keeping the base, but I don't trust TIM; he'd probably try to liquefy other aliens to fight the Reapers.
gorboy 11 months ago
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markinator123 11 months ago
@reydemagival
It's true that Husks were indeed made in the Collector Base, as well as the liquidizing process of humans. However, these instruments were used by the Collectors, not people who want to better the future of humanity and the entire Galaxy.
The whole purpose of keeping the base is to repurpose it so it can be used to protect the future, and not follow such abominable paths like it did before. It's all in the hands of the user.
barraki92 1 year ago
@barraki92 The hands of cerebres ant a good user.
chunga100 1 year ago
@chunga100
Perhaps, but Cerberus actually acknowledges the existence of Sovreign and the Reapers; something the Alliance and the Council never did/do.
It's better to put technology to use then blow it up in order to "honor the dead." The people who died at the Collector Base I consider tragedies, but we can't allow personal feelings/empathy to destroy the chances of any future remaining.
Keeping the Base in the least assures that we are prepared for those monsters.
barraki92 1 year ago
@barraki92 Yes it is Evil , it was made for evil purpose and use by evil people , nothing in this Base could of been use in a good way , their ship however maybe .
It's like in Star Wars if the rebels wanted to have control of the death star , it's just not right isn't ?
And here with David , my choice was made , i couldn't leave him to Cerberus , especially when i had Legion ...
GabisonStudios 1 year ago
@GabisonStudios Do you realize how ridiculous that logic is? It was used by evil so we should try to destroy it? That is like putting a gun on trial. It makes no damn sense whatsoever. Things are NOT evil and just because something was used for an evil purpose does not mean we can not repurpose it.
markinator123 1 year ago
@markinator123
Exactly.
You cannot put a gun on trial. Material objects are NOT evil. They can be purposed for evil, but they can be used for good. Plus, "good" and "evil" are just matters of perspective. There is no such thing as TRUE evil or TRUE good. The Reapers just want to kill everything just because they can, more chaotic than "evil" if you ask me. If I shoot a man with a gun, does that make the gun "evil"? Of course not? It was my fault? Therefore, I am "evil", not the weapon.
barraki92 1 year ago
@barraki92 (1) D&D alignment isn't a universal measure of morals and ethics. Some D&D players hate the 3.5 and earlier alignment system.
(2) If you DO use it, you can't be relativistic. The -point- of alignment is to show how good and evil are absolute and affect the whole cosmos.
(3) Chaos = destroying stuff and unmaking things; evil = harming organisms and causing pain. The Reapers don't want to destroy -things- (planets, stars). They want to destroy living, breathing creatures.
TriniKnight01 1 year ago
@TriniKnight01
What's D&D?
There isn't such a thing as "true" evil or "pure" good. There is no absolute shade of black or white, EVER.The Reapers are the closest things that come to "evil" since they are not truly PEOPLE.
An sentient race can be considered people, even the more violent races like the Krogan, Batarians, Vorcha, Geth and Yahg.
The Reapers simply want to destroy everything because they believe themselves superior to all.
I will show them with the Base, that they are NOT.
barraki92 1 year ago
@GabisonStudios
The Collector Base was made for an evil purpose, but whose to say that it cannot be repurposed for a noble cause? A gun is only "evil" in the wrong hands, it cannot be labled "evil"; it is an unfitting and unjust description. It's all a matter of perspective and who is holding and using the gun.
BTW, if the Rebels got control of the Death Star, I'm sure decades of tyranny and future evils could've been prevented; just sayin', like Alderaan for example.
barraki92 1 year ago
@barraki92 And i also did it for the future , imagine a man like the Illusive man taking control of the collector base , it would of made another Saren who also tried to control Sovereign
GabisonStudios 1 year ago
@GabisonStudios
Saren's goal was noble, but naive. He WANTED to save the Galaxy, and believed that allying with the Reapers would save the Galaxy from universal genocide. However, such a goal was naive to begin with; the Reapers would've never spared anyone even if Saren's plan was successful.
Plus, Saren was indoctrinated by Sovreign and he didn't even realize it; he thought he was in control. Saren's goal was foolhardy, but at least he had a somewhat noble purpose originally.
barraki92 1 year ago
@barraki92 I admit that Saren goal was noble but Illusive Man goals?
He would of used the Base for taking control over the others species and the reapers...
I'm preddy sure that in Mass Effect 3 , Illusive Man will try to build a human reaper and put his mind inside it ...
The base is like a gun , it's evil when it's used by bad peoples (not Renegades , Renegades are bad-ass lol)
But , we are made of our actions , if i begin to use Reapers tech , i'll end up as a Reaper (Reaper-Shepard FTW!)
GabisonStudios 10 months ago
@GabisonStudios
The Illusive Man isn't suicidal, he wouldn't try to control the Reapers; no one can. He wants to destroy the Reapers, and possibly gain their technology to establish an extremist human dominance over alien races.
barraki92 10 months ago
@barraki92 Who knows?
I'm sure the Illusive Man will try something to control the reapers , because if it was only for their technology a simple copy of the collectors data would of been enough to find their weakness ...
Just look his face in the Renegade ending , he's dreaming about power , and i'm sure he won't hesitate to destroy everything (thats basicly what reapers to do organic no?) if it means that humanity will be the 1st power in the galaxy.
GabisonStudios 10 months ago
@GabisonStudios
If he thinks he can control the Reapers, or even makes the slightest attempt to, I'll kill him myself.
barraki92 10 months ago
@barraki92 Do it like Saren :D
My theorie on the Illusive Man is based on the fact that in Mass Effect 3 we we'll fight against Cerberus , we will also fights races (like the batarians) who joined the reapers or try to just put more #### into this mess ( i heard that they will be a loyalty system for species , ex if you saved Wrex who controls the clans and the aaaah don't remember their name insects from Mass Effect 1 , they will fight by your side) and of course the reapers
GabisonStudios 10 months ago
@barraki92 Of course, considering he was exposed to a Reaper device in the Evolution Comics (years before the games, timeline wise) he might even be sub-consciously working for the Reapers. Glad my Paragon pretty much screwed him at every opportunity.
Significantpower 9 months ago
@Significantpower
I swear if is subconciously working for the Reapers and I gave him for the Collector Base, I will kick his ass so bad it's going to look like the Bahak System after the Arrival DLC!
...Too soon? LOL, you might not get the joke if you haven't played Arrival.
barraki92 9 months ago
@barraki92
I'm hoping to kill him in ME3
kadindarklord 9 months ago
@kadindarklord
Damn, I just realized all the spelling errors in my last post.
But yeah, if the Illusive Man is subconciously working for the Reapers, and betrays me after everything I've done for him, I'm to going to BUTCHER him.
barraki92 9 months ago
When I first played it with Radek Shepard and I saw David I literially went What the hell?! How can you do that to your own brother?!
Domoneky 1 year ago
barraki92 @ What you intend to with the base isn't the matter at hand here. Cerberus, the Illusive Man, will hold the Base. You, have no say in what they choose to do with it, and they've proven to have rather...extreme measures in the past.
Khyron56 1 year ago
@Khyron56
If the Ilusive Man truly intends to use the base as he sees fit, and does ANYTHING without my jurisdiction or consent...he will die.
He is a valuable asset, but should he try anything without consulting me he WILL regret it. I won't have him use the Collector Base for his own selfish agenda, whilst I agree on the matters of Human Dominance, I will NOT have him put such petty matters over the safety of the Galaxy.
He will NOT have his way, not in that way at least.
barraki92 1 year ago
On a plus note no dislikes now lets keep it that way
Icebolt666 1 year ago
You can't worry about the dead
markinator123 1 year ago
Very strong scene. I lay down my arms before the Bioware)
I am renegade, and I always acting very brutal. But this...this was too much, I just can't leave David in there, if there was a way to kill him, to end the nightmare that his own brother create for him- I probably do it. Cause things like this you can't ever forget, it will be always in your head, even if you an autist like David.
So, murder of him- it will be cruel, but merciful as well
Neorelson 1 year ago
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Neorelson 1 year ago
i dont know the story but seems really good no game has ever brought me to tears but only few have given me chills and gosebumps ME2 being one of them
Icebolt666 1 year ago
as much as I wanted Halo Reach to be best xbox 360 or game of the year, from the story of this, It deserved the prize of best xbox game and it should've been game of the year, not red dead redemption, from a game that had a story so amazing it matched half-life maybe, it is game of the year 2010 material
roboguy75 1 year ago
@roboguy75 plz just dont compare overated fps with this masterpiece here...its like comparing a lada vs a ferrari "scenario wise" halo 1,2 best scenario from all the halo's out there,second mass effect its not a n exclusive its on all platforms so it deserves best game of the year everywhere!!!!! xd.reach is just a big DLC ,the game is a big zero bungie should stop at halo 3 & finaly start a new IP
shinigamidu13 1 year ago
@shinigamidu13 reach was good, odst was the dlc game, but, yes, mass effect 2 beats all, ps3, cod, gow, it's not about graphics or multiplayer, it's about story and gameplay, this game achieves both
roboguy75 1 year ago
only part in the game when i went paragon.... poor David.
AltairKamahl 1 year ago
@AltairKamahl I think many people would agree, no renegade player would choose the renegade option for this, if they chose to have archer keep david, then...THEY ARE COLD HEARTED MONSTERS WITH NO SOUL...HE DESERVES TO LIVE FUCK ARCHER, I WOULD HAVE MURDERED HIM BRUTALLY FOR WHAT HE DID >:'(
roboguy75 1 year ago
@roboguy75 : ye, i mean he's own brother? me to.. i wish there was a option to blast archers brains all over the floor.... i need a mod.
AltairKamahl 1 year ago
It isn't harmless. And for all that The Illusive Man and Miranda say about Cerberus and its lofty goals, the fact of the matter is that no organization that does something like this can be good. It just can't.
...Poor David...
lastxwriter 1 year ago
Square root of 912.04 is 30.2… It all seemed harmless.
Nnemicvids 1 year ago
HAS AVERYONE SEEN THE MASS EFFECT 3 TRAILER!?
Spaced20 1 year ago
@Spaced20 i have! :D, its something i cant tell, without using the simple words as epic :P
galaxy366 1 year ago
"You even think about coming after your brother and this bullet will be waiting for you!"
Mark did awesome in this scene :)
CliffDiverBOA 1 year ago
@CliffDiverBOA I 100% agree. It actually surprises me how much praise the Femshep gets at times over the MaleShep. This scene was a perfect example on what I prefer the MaleShep over the female one.
markinator123 1 year ago
when I finished the boss fight i felt sorry for david
even though this is a video game
mass effect is not only a game it is art
that1dude0092 1 year ago 33
@that1dude0092 you are correct sir, this certainly is art. I wish more people saw it that way.
mafialeather 1 year ago
@mafialeather and the music just all the more emotional
Breoreos 1 year ago
@that1dude0092 And bioware, is a master
TurboTsunam1 5 months ago
@barraki92
Yes, keeping the collector base isn't a realy bad decision by itself, but if you don't destroy it where will it go? into the hands of the illusive man. I dunno, but giving so much technology to just one faction? Gotta have some side effects.
AlexAlex1310 1 year ago
@AlexAlex1310
yes lets trust the illusive man with a reaper base.
THAT'LL END WELL.
Spaced20 1 year ago
@Spaced20 You don't like the Illusive Man with the base fine. Just trust the racist/useless alien council that holds humanity back and likes to benefit from humanity but doesn't help them when they run into trouble. Lets also not to forget to mention that the council is too stagnant and too complacent. I had tears of joy when I let them die. Goodbye and good riddance
markinator123 1 year ago
@markinator123 yeah im gonna have to agree with you
Breoreos 1 year ago
@Buchholz101
I disagree ever so slightly with that judgement. Keeping the Collector Base isn't exactly villainous, it's own seen by others who only play by Paragon options as such.
If we have a base filled with some of the most advanced technology in the Galaxy and its only a matter of time before legions of invincible space Me