@xxxirelandxxx123 How is that a fact he's fought southpaws b4 and only had trouble with Judah early but he adjusted quick just like always. Plus he just fought a southpaw that never even came close to putting him in trouble so where's your facts?
@OutsideTheRopes look bck at floyd fights . Judah should hav a knock down aswell , Corley hav floyd in trouble aswell they landed big shots, manny a monster compare 2 judah n corley thats y they fight not being made floyd is scare of powerfull southpaw
@soufldn21 Judah n Corley gav him all he could handle in the first 6 rounds then they got tired, Manny is a monster compare 2 them ,twice as much Power more accurate and faster, This is boxing anything can happen If , Mosley had floyd out on hes feet if that was manny in that position i wuld say it wuld be all over
@xxxirelandxxx123 Did they win though? No. So i don't understand your arguement. Corley had him hurt for a few seconds, he was never in serious trouble. It's like I always say. Being hurt and being in trouble are to different things. In trouble means your close to being stopped. Hurt means you got stunned and you might be on shaky legs for a few seconds. Plus Judah and Corley had slick styles, sneaky styles that Manny doesn't have.
@OutsideTheRopes if Manny had floyd in trouble he will finish it , Thats the different between him a Judah , Corley n Mosley ,Fitness wise manny doesnt tired N look floyd Rejected a 50/50 deal That tells everything
@xxxirelandxxx123 He hasn't finish his last few opponents so what makes you think he can finish a guy that hasn't been defeated? I think he would look just as bad as Marquez did against Floyd if not worse. Pacquiao rejecting a blood test tells everything.
@OutsideTheRopes Manny agreed to everything as usual Cmon greedy wanker rejecting 50-50 spilt and Manny the face of boxing and look at floyd fights against southpaw
@xxxirelandxxx123 Your retarded...learn how to process basic information. Floyd has never lost to a southpaw don't you get it?If Manny was the face of boxing, then why isn't Floyd the one begging for 50%? Go back to pre-school you fuckin idiot.
$10 million per pound penalty- 30 days- 24 days- 14 days- 7 days- Floyd is bigger than me- I'm afraid of needles- No USADA- WADA- Lawsuit ....Yes, Pacquiao is on drugs
@Outsidetheropes Do you think people who can't see whats REALLY going on with this Mayweather vs Pacquiao thing is like folks who thought the world was FLAT! These people believe this to the point that they would kill you if you didn't believe. One interesting fact is at the time these folks believe this the rest of the world didn't.
Its sad that we live in a world were people don't care about facts or the truth anymore! Its like Pactards are the same folks who believe the earth was Flat.
and for all you guys typing racist comments about filipino i have 1 word ya'll SUCK MY DICK !!! ya'll smell like a frozen fuck! ROFL we all love boxing so stick to arguments hahaha peace!
@OutsideTheRopes this is what you think what you can say "but " america is the best they say if you want a lab/ hospital for cancer biopsy if you want to survive cancer go to the u.s.a. for testing blood/urine/saliva or what ever shit. if you want a case close there is fbi and i truely believe it and its very true indeed america in best in that aspect. now my QUESTION is where is your legal evidence and legal proof of facts? nothing against you bro just being real i love the sport of boxing..
I'm just kidding. You are the greatest. I would never doubt anything you say. I'm a dumb retarded 2 left feet alien eyed Filipino. Who sleeps on a bed of straw hay next to dog shit. You are the best outsidetheropes. Please forgive me. Mayweather is the best boxer ever. Poochiao is a coward who wants nothing of Mayweather. I'm a Filipino who bows down to the great black people. I'm sorry, please forgive me if you can.
boxing has great minds and mental midgets all rolled up into one~.....the good the bad and the ugly.....some of the most racist stupid people are boxing fanatics, along with some of the smart ones like yours truly...i dont go for race or creed or nationality, i go for talent in the ring...both floyd and pac are as talented as they come, and lets pray then enter the ring and leave out the crackhead rumors and the greedy interests of promoters and flunkies!
Very well put together vid. I like the way you put the Hagler clip at the end. I saw that whole interview and loved the way pactards took it out of context. Marvin definitely believed that that Floyd was asking pacroid to take the test without Floyd having to be tested.
MANNYS FULL OF SHIT HAS BEEN AN WILL CONTINUE TO BE EXCUSE AFTER EXCUSE AFTER EXCUSE LIE AFTER LIE AFTER LIE AN SOMEHOW ITS FLOYD WHOS DUCKING AN FLOYD WHOS A COWARD THIS SHITS A JOKE YOU CAN TELL WHO THE BITCH IS BY WHO THEY FIGHT MANNY LOVES HIS HEAVY DOSE OF LEFTOVERS,VAULNERABLE OPPONENTS,AN BAD TIMED MATCH UPS HES A FUCKING SHAM IF FLOYDS OPPONENTS SUCK SO BAD THEN MANNYS SUCK WORST EITHER FLOYD OR SOMEBODY ELSE HAS ALWAYS BEAT'EM 1ST AN ORTIZ IS YOUNG UP AN COMER MANNY WOULDNT DARE;)>
even if manny takes the test now..and passes...it doesn't mean that he never took any..it's been more than 2 years now since they requested for the testing..what if he stopped right after floyd made the request ? then he already got the benefits and he won't get caught..
@raizen357 what benefits??/.....just like when fernando vargas pumped himself with steroids right before his fight with oscar....and oscar, who is LESS talented than floyd, overcame fernando's early storm and when he tired, typical of the steroid user lookin for a second wind, oscar tagged that ass...youre gonna tell me pac used and now stopped yet he is at an advantage over floyd? who is to say then w that logic,that floyd didnt use a few years ago?
LOL comedy "we will fight paul williams next cause we saw his last 2 fights". LOL yea u got tht right they will fight pauls williams next, hell he may give Zab Judah achance next.
Gambeino's younger brother ChuckyLee is a Floyd fan and he said Floyd is scared. Search this on YouTube: "...A Floyd fan CHUCKYLEE said Mayweather is scared of Manny Pacquiao ..."
@OutsideTheRopes I didnt say if it was fact or not ropes just thought it would add some flavor to the convo. I can't make videos for shyt so I watch all of yalls. this one is good. r u from cali?
@dapperdonmilli we don't know that now. i'm sure if it will ever happen. i don't know if you know this but manny's next fight with JMM will be his last fight with HBO. he just signed to Showtime boxing. so how they will make this fight happen with floyd being with hbo and manny being with showtime is beyond me. "???" is why would manny leave the money network in hbo to go to second best showtime. this will buy them a good 1.5 years. the networks will never agree to this shit. look it up fam
@OutsideTheRopes i heard it on ESNEWS here on youtube from reporter Eli Seckbach. he's judged over 30 pro fights and has interviews with manny, sergio, floyd, mosley, and paul williams in person. As of now it's still a rumour as of today but it's expected to be announced, official, and signed after sometime after JMM fight. I believe the source. his channel has over 5,ooo interviews with pro boxeres and trainners including the mayweather's, roach and ariza. youtube: HBO Lost Pacquiao to Showtime
I don't think Pac's juicing. I do think Arum is doing everything in his power to make as much money off of Pac before they fight as he can. It's personal and business with Arum. To have to split money with Floyd and have a good shot of his fighter losing to him would be killer for him. Roach and Pac kind of road the PR wave since it was working while Floyd wasn't saying shit. Now he is and that camp is scrambling. They'll fight and Pac will take the test. Nothing else Arum can make up now.
It's as simple as this....right now Pac and PBF both know that they both have a chance to lose this fight....and neither is willing to take the risk....so they will both continue to make excuses
Good video, still hope Pac is clean but it's all seeming a bit to odd now. I don't understand why he won't end all the doubt, and just do whatever it takes to proves the doubters wrong. If i was innocent i honestly believe thats what i would do
@OutsideTheRopes you know that your cheating or fooling yourself when you used a 5-sec clip of hagler's interview that benefits your side on this argument, when you know that in that intervew it is obvious that hagler thinks that this mess is on floyd's.
he compared it to someone who is dictating,fits the phrase "who are you?" as hagler puts it,
@borjyboy The clip was put at the end of this vid for a good reason. Pactards have used the clip against Mayweather saying he shouldn't be dictating as you said, however I put the clip in to flip it on pactards to prove that Haglar didn't even know that Floyd said he would take the test too. He thought that Floyd was only asking Manny to take it with wouldn't be fair. Using the 5 sec clip wasn't cheating or fooling myself, it was brilliant.
@OutsideTheRopes - Question: Do you use the word 'Pactard' to refer to anyone who believes that Manny is innocent until proven guilty? If so, that is pretty childish.
@boxingaddict25 I've given my definition of a pactard before but i'll do it again just for you. A pactard is a extreme fan of pacquiao. A pactard will never admit when pacquiao is wrong even if there's proof. Pactards don't pay attention to fact. They say a buch of fantasy shit to prove their point. Example: "Floyd wants to use the USADA because he's on PED's and USADA will swith his test with Manny's". That was an actual comment too lol. Then when you prove them wrong, they get racist.
wtf r u talkin about floyd is demanding it if pacquiao doesent want to take it then floyd wont fight, so basically floyd is saying if u dont take this test i wont fight u, thats demanding, i request can be turned down and u can still go throught with it, stop with this bull shit its old
@supermasters1 So Many requesting, oh i mean demanding 8 ounce gloves, the ring size, and 100 million dollars per pound over the wealterweight limit is okay? Remember when the Cotto fight fell apart the first time because Manny was demanding a catchweight of 145, and demanded Cotto's 147 pound title to be on the line? Cotto didn't want to do it and what did Manny do? He said he won't fight him then, so Cotto had to bend to Manny's demands. Don't a hypocrite. You don't want to debate me
@OutsideTheRopes pacquiao didnt demand 8 ounce gloves, cause when floyd fought zab , zab had 8 ounce gloves and floyd has 10 ounce so i dont see the problem, floyd wanted the pac to have 10 ounce glove from the beginning, the 10 mill for weight was becuas how floyd go over over on marques, shit marques came up llike 15 pounds and flod cant lose 3 pounds to fight so floyd paid half a mil to keep the 2 lbs on. manny didnt demand against cotto if anything freddy did
@supermasters1 Your last comment proves that your unwilling to admit that Manny makes demands too. I believe in 2006, the commision changed the rules that fighter 135 lbs and above had to wear 10 ounce gloves because 2 people had died. They're always telling Floyd let the commision do their job but yet Manny is still demanding 8 ounce gloves. At least do some research before you claim he didn't demand 8 ounce gloves because he did. The point is, Floyd is not the only one asking for shit so stop.
@mannygatillo - So in your deluded mind, anyone who thinks Pacquiao has accomplished everything he has from hard work and dedication and not drugs is a "pactard" even though there isn't a shred of evidence that he's ever used anything? Do I have that right? Man, you are a pathetic individual.
@BlackPoisonxX - Well, whenever someone makes a statement like the one you made, which is completely based on your own subjective opinion rather than on facts and reason, it's to be expected that you'll get called out for it. What basis in fact do you have to support your assertion? If you don't have one than your comment is both irresponsible and ignorant.
@boxingaddict25 1) The excuses Manny gave (Afraid of needles, Superstitious Blood test will weaken him) 2) The 21 then 14 day window and wanting to know when he will be tested 3) Recently Arum stating they want a foreign organisation to handle the random drug testing it's obvious to me he wants this because he knows he can't bribe the USADA if Manny tests dirty. This all leads me to believe Manny is on something and they don't want to send him in with Floyd clean.
@BlackPoisonxX - 1) He never said he was afraid of needles. That's something you Pacquiao haters have clung to for the longest time, and it's not even true. He did say he feels that getting blood drawn weakens him, but he said that a long time ago when he fought Morales for the 1st time. It's not something he came up with just for Mayweather. 2) Just because he asked for a cut off date for something he isn't even required to do does NOT mean he uses drugs. 3) Arum did NOT state they want a
@boxingaddict25 - "foreign organization" to handle the random drug testing. He has stated he doesn't want USADA to do it because he feels it has a bias towards Mayweather, but that he's willing to go through WADA which is the most well-respected drug testing agency in the world. Now there is more to this, but the bottom line is that he is willing to agree for the random blood tests to happen. It's just a matter of who will conduct these tests.
@boxingaddict25 Of course that reason alone ( point 2) doesn't automatically mean he's on drugs 100% but it does raise suspicion. Bob Arums recent statement about wanting to bring a foreign drug testing company also raises a few eyebrows. The point is I have a strong feeling Mr Manny is using performance enhancers and has been using them for a while
@boxingaddict25 how is it youy know what these guys said...was you around them all day??? i use to think you was cool man but you have turned out to be another pactard
FLOYD MAYWEATHER AND 313 MICHIGAN ALL DAY!! MANNY PACQUIAO IS SCARED, TO TAKE THE DAMN SIMPLE TEST! WHY YOU ASK? BECAUSE HE'S HIDING SOMETHING!! MAKE BOTH OF THEM, TAKE THE DAMN TEST, AND GIVE US THE PEOPLE, AN FANS WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE!! THE "FIGHT OF THE DECADE". WHAT THE FUCK IS THE PROBLEM? BOXING IS FALLING OFF!! NOW GIVE THE FANS, WHAT THEY WANT!! ITS NO DOUBT, THAT THIS FIGHT WILL GENERATE MUCH MONEY...EVEN ON PAY PER VIEW!! SO MAKE IT DO, WHAT ITS SUPPOSED TO DO!
@313shauwn - Let me guess: You are an uneducated black male in your late teens or early twenties who simply sides with Mayweather because he's got the same skin tone as yourself. Am I warm? I bet I'm red hot.
@boxingaddict25 let me guess! your unemployed...your fat wife divorced you...your dick is too small to make babies...you have no friends...your photo is uploaded on many different dating site...And your still jacking off, at the age of 45! am I rite? me! why i'm a professional business man, with many college degrees! I'm a very successful business man. I own my own businesses! I own many properties! I have money to burn! many women in my life! and yea, i'm fucking your x-wife now! lol!
@boxingaddict25 moral of this conversation...don't fuck with the boss!!!! your still living with your momma lil boy! now go clean your room up! your room is in the basement rite? lol!!
I'm not with the back n fourth banter between Pac n May fans, I think they're both great fighters but Floyd is better.. A great defense should beat a great offense in any pro sport. I don't think either man is ducking either man, I think Floyd does believe that Manny has a good chance to beat him and that's why he is so adamant about the testing and it actually shows how much he respects Manny. Team Pac is not ducking, I just think they don't believe Floyd should be dictating the fight terms.
@OutsideTheRopes fight aint gunna happen anytime soon roach and arum know aswell as anyone else does who knows anything about boxing that manny cant beat floyd. thats why roach is desperate to force khan on floyd to prevent him from fighting manny and arum with the new roadblocks on testing. problem is alot of people hate floyd so much that they will spin to make it look like floyds dodging
I hope Floyd will just fight like any other boxers and be a man and not use alibis to duck fights. He said he is just taking one step at a time on fighting Pacquiao. He will reach his step one day & fight Pacquiao. it will happen. Floyd will be ready for Pacquiao.
boxers do take post fight blood tests, as a person who cycles steroids i know that you will fail a blood test 10 times out of 10 if you take anything, all these designer compounds have a high half life of 2 or 3 months .. plus your indicating that pacman also uses "the clear" to stop it in urine, it doesnt work in blood as its a totally different test looking for resting rates
seriously if pacman does take the test and passes you all will be asking for bone marrow next
@EuropeanBoxingNews I'm not indicating that he uses the clear, the point is if your clean take the test. He's the one making himself look bad at this point because the test shouldn't be this big of a deal you gotta admit that at least. Bone Marrow? You make it seems as if i want him to be dirty. I just want him to take the test because that's the only way the fight is going to happen. But they get real funny when the test is mentioned and i wonder why.
Normally when there is a solid story everyone is on the same page. Say what you want about Floyd but he seems to be consistant with what he says and what he does. I cant see how a man is telling the world that he will take this test but the fight still hasnt happened. Does anyone find this strange besides me?
The entire part of this video where you pull up quotes from guys in Pac's camp to try and show how they all say something different with regard to Manny accepting all of Floyd's demands is dishonest. What you've done is you've taken quotes from the past and mixed them with quotes from the present. If you were unbiased then you would have showed where you got those quotes from and what dates they were stated.
@boxingaddict25 They said all of this recently buddy. The only things that i put from the past were the excuses they made not to take the test since the whole thing started.
@OutsideTheRopes - Bullshit. You: "Let's not forget all that's happened 'over the past several weeks'" ...Arum: "We've agreed to all Floyd's demands." Next quote from Roach: "We never agreed to any testing. That's why we can't ask Shane to do it because we refuse to do it ourselves." The quote from Arum was said over the past several weeks regarding Mayweather. The quote from Roach was said BEFORE Pac's fight with Mosley. They aren't even related. This is a joke.
@boxingaddict25 Questions for you. If they never agreed to take the test at all, then doesn't that mean whenever Arum said that they did agree it was still a lie? Stop it. How many weeks is several? You do remember that the mosley fight was only in May right?
@OutsideTheRopes - I'm afraid you just don't know what you're talking about. When you say "they never agreed to take the test at all" you are displaying pure ignorance. There is a video on YT that was posted a couple months ago in which an interviewer asks Pacquiao if he's willing to take random blood tests with NO cut off date in order to make the fight with Mayweather. He clearly says he will. Arum has since been saying the same thing. How have you not heard about this?
@OutsideTheRopes - How many weeks is several? I'd say 3 or 4. It's been several MONTHS since that quote came out of Freddie's mouth, not several WEEKS.
@boxingaddict25 (Buzz Sound) Wrong. A few weeks is 3 or 4. Several would be 4 or more. There are 4 weeks in a month. The fight was in May, this is July. Nice try. Neeext.
@OutsideTheRopes - (Buzz Sound) Wrong. Several: Being more than 2 but fewer than many in number or kind. The day of the fight was May 7th. Freddie said that a number of days or weeks BEFORE the fight on 24/7. I can't recall which episode he said it on. You just posted this YESTERDAY. There is less than a week left in July. That means it has been several MONTHS. Neeext.
@boxingaddict25 (Buzz) Still wrong .So basically your trying to convince me that several is less than a few lol. I'm done talking to you about this because your completely wrong and you know it. Were did you get that answer from askdotcom? And you cherrypicked the only answer that was wrong lol. Several weeks is the same as a few month. I'm too smart not to know that. Neeeeext.
@boxingaddict25 I though we were debating respectfully, but now that i'm owning you, you have resorted to name calling with is very childish and pactardish. Next time your outta here.
@OutsideTheRopes - How exactly are you owning me when I just exposed you? Go to dictionarydotcom and type in the word 'several'. See what the definition is. It's exactly what I said it was: Being more than 2 but fewer than many in number of kind. Then you have the nerve to tell me I'm "completely wrong." It's not from askdotcom. It's from dictionarydotcom. Now what?
@boxingaddict25 Go type in the diffrence between a few and several and tell me what you come up with. Anyway nit picking of one word i chose to use doesn't change the fact that they all have said diffrent stories. It was only like a week or so ago when Pacquiao advisor said out of his own mouth that they never agreed to any test. Saying they agreed to actually agreeing and signing are two diffrent things. This is what i mean by me owning you.
@OutsideTheRopes - The only difference between "a few" and "several" is that the former is "more than one but less than many" while the latter is "more than 2 but less than many". That's according to the dictionary. You are the one who called me out about the word 'several.' You stated that you were done talking to me because I was "completely wrong." Now you're changing the subject because you've found out that YOU are the one who is wrong.
@OutsideTheRopes - So now you're saying that you're owning me not because I don't understand what the word 'several' means, but because Pacquiao's adviser said "a week or so ago" that they never agreed to any test. I follow boxing news daily, and I haven't read any article within the past week or so wherein Pacquiao's adviser made such a statement. What is your source? Give me the link to the article or video where you saw this.
@boxingaddict25 - Next you're gonna tell me that dictionarydotcom isn't a reliable source for the definitions of words, right? lol. You said "several would be 4 or more" but the dictionary seems to disagree with you. Hmm, I wonder who I should believe...
@boxingaddict25 Like I said a pactard always thinks he's right. You declinded to talk about the fact that the one word you disagree with still doesn't disprove the fact that Manny's advisor said they never agreed. Why are you dancing around the topic. Rather it was a couple, few, or several weeks or months ago, it still doesn't change the fact that when they said they agreed, even if it was 2 years ago, they lied. Now dance around that or keep talking about what several means lol
@OutsideTheRopes - You mentioned the word childish. What's childish to me is whenever someone disagrees with you about something regarding Pacquiao you label them a Pactard. Now THAT is childish. The technical term for it is ad hominem. You're appealing to emotions to try to win an argument because you don't have any facts. It's not that I THINK I"m right, I've PROVED I was right, and anyone who reads our exchanges who is of sound mind will see that that is the case.
@OutsideTheRopes - And I asked you to provide a link to a recent article or video in which Pacquiao's adviser said that Pacquiao has never agreed to take random blood tests. That is how you would prove your assertion, but rather than do that you just expect me to take your word for it. As I said, I read boxing articles every single day on boxingscene, espn, and other websites. All I've read is that Arum and Pacquiao have both stated that they have agreed to the tests.
So many of these quotes are either easily refutable or flat out false, and all you're doing with this video is appealing to the ignorant Pac haters who haven't done any research on their own, but simply jump on the bandwagon of hating this man for no good reason. It's pathetic. The quote you say is your "favorite" about Manny being scared of needles is totally false. He never even said that. You are a charlatan, an ignoramus, and a Pac hater. Plain and simple.
pac already accepted all the way to the fight using WADA. so this case is history its all up for floyd to accept or not. what really surprise me is floyds having no confidence with his skillls. Do u mean an amatuer style like pac has the chance against the best skilled in boxing? he defeated marquez with his jab he can do the same with pac easy and yet he's still ducking.
@jcsgasco You dont follow to well neither.. Pac still wants a cut off date.. bob arum came out with the bull shit that pac agreed to testing all the way up to the fight through WADA, but WADA has already stated that they do not do testing themselves so it looks like bob lied to you and its still up to manny and his team if the fight happens or not.. stop listening to Arum.. He's making all pacfans look dumb!
You make some good points but how about some points on Mayweather. He is not completely innocent in the whole process as well. its not ALL Pacquiao's fault. Mayweather hitting his girlfriend and stealing her cell phone certainly didn't help, his two long vacations and in the beginning wanted more than a 50/50 split. Than at one point, not sure on this one, he said he wanted like a 100 million dollars to fight him. None of this gets in the video?
@MikeSportsFan you havent been following to well... the 100 mill thing was debunked a long time ago.and theres no proof floyd hit his kid's mother.. thats why none of that makes the video.
@jmcg1010 nice try with the link... but like i said the 100 mill thing was debunked awhile ago.. do your homework next time before sending worthless links like you got something to prove!
@jmcg1010 lol silly pactard.. Im not even looking at these vids you send me.. all im doing is looking at the thumbnail and you made yourself look silly by giving me a link to a video with bob arum on it... thats the problem with you pactards.. you listen to everything arum tells you when all he does is LIE.. He continues to lie because dumb ass pactards like yourself believe what he says.. those links show just how clueless you are!
@bosdurgen74 these links show how little I care. Boxing is bigger than Pacroid and Gayweather.
I should probably point out that Roger Mayweather being asked the question "what would it take for your nephew to fight Manny Pacquiao" and respond with "$100 million dollars" is about as conclusive as you can get when addressing this particular argument. Far more conclusive than the logical fallacies people like you are concocting
@jmcg1010 You dont need to point out shit..If you dont care then dont send links and stay off of the videos that deal with mayweather and Pacquiao... Floyd Mayweather jr himself already addressed the 100 mill dollar claim on an interview done on fighthype a couple of months ago, you're stuck on old videos that prove nothing! None of those links you sent are conclusive at all... JUST LAUGHABLE!
@bosdurgen74 There is NO proof Manny takes steroids either just allegations. What Mayweather has against him are also ALLEGATIONS so why WOULDN'T it make the video? haha Why does everything have to be one sided? Where the fuck can I find an unbiased video? on youtube?
@MikeSportsFan Pac made himself look bad by not wanting to take the blood tests & making all kinds of excuses to why he didnt want to take them.. There are plenty of unbiased vids on youtube on this subject, but if you're biased towards Pacquiao then every time an unbiased video is shown that depicts pacquiao and his camp as being the reason the fight has not happened you're gonna think that you're watching a video that's biased towards floyd... I know who's side is ducking & it aint floyd's
@bosdurgen74 team pac always agreed to random testing only if the International Boxing Commision or WADA did the random testing but floyd wants to hire a PRIVATE agency called USADA. USADA has a history of failing to catch athletes with PED's and they admitted to it. The table is back on floyd's hand. Oscar already twitted that Pac agreed to random testing. Only if floyd agrees to WADA doing the test, a neutral agency funded by various goverments around the world and the Olympic.
@Gridlock84 Dude please shut up.. I get so sick and tired of some silly pacquiao fan getting on here and say pac agreed to random tests... NO HE DID NOT, He always wanted a cut off date.. USADA is not a private agency! They do testing in the united staes on behalf of WADA. WADA itself does not have an infrastucure to do testing themselves.. Oscar went back on that statement and said he wass not sure.. you dont realize how stupid you sound lol
@Gridlock84 please shut up.. I get sick and tired of silly pacquiao fan getting on here saying pac agreed to random tests... NO HE DID NOT, He always wanted a cut off date.. USADA is not a private agency! They do testing in the U.S on behalf of WADA. WADA itself does not have an infrastucure to do testing themselves.. Freddie roach & michael koncz have said THEY NEVER AGREED to RANDOM TESTS! Oscar went back on that statement and said he wass not sure.. you dont realize how stupid you sound lol
@Gridlock84 LOL Another dumb comment & You sound confused!!! The nevada athletic COMMISION wont do random BLOOD TESTS, they had a hearing where they voted against it..It doesnt matter if Pac isn't American because if he's training in the U.S for the fight with floyd then USADA is in charge of giving the tests on behalf of WADA .. If Pac is training in the Philipines the an anti doping agency in the phillipines will do the tests on behalf of WADA you retard! Your stupidity is irritating me!
@bosdurgen74 i hope you realise that you are irritating yourself. You are incapable of comprehending what i'm trying to say. Your little childish insults shows insecurity. Grow up and when you are able to conversate maturely, talk to me.
@Gridlock84 Theres no way in can comprehend what you're saying because you're NOT MAKING ANY FUCKING SENSE... You lack knowledge on this subject therefore every time you try to make an argument it irritates me to see how DUMB some people are!! Besides that, you 1st replied to a comment a had for someone else so I DONT NEED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT SHIT!!! You should know what your're talking about before commenting! Now move the fuck along!!
@bosdurgen74 thank you. at least you are able to admit that you are unable to comprehend such simple words that were put together to form a sentence. =D
I shall nickname you the Emotional Youtube Warrior.
@Gridlock84 Yeah whatever... Go and learn something about the negotiations instead of making foolish comments... I'll nick name you the Typical Pactard Dumbass!!!!
@bosdurgen74 You call it unbiased but is it REALLY unbiased to only bash one side? Don't even ACT like Mayweather would have fight Pacquiao instead of Ortiz even if "he agreed to the tests". Mayweather takes such long breaks he needs tuneup fights, all fighters do. I just read an interview with Roger Mayweather and he said after Ortiz, his nephew.. or son, not sure and don't care of his relation, needs more tune up fights to prepare for Pacquiao. So I don't expect them to fight till 2013 tbh.
@MikeSportsFan That's what you fail to understand.. Floyd is the one being "bashed" Most of the time people speak on Pacquiao's faults, it's not "bashing", it's the truth.. It doesn't matter what Roger says, Floyd already said that he's going to fight Pacquiao after Ortiz... All Manny has to do is agree to the blood tests Also, you dont even know that roger is Floyd's uncle which tells me you have no clue on anything about this fight.. You just believe what you want to believe..
@bosdurgen74 I don't believe either side to be honest. I said Uncle but wasn't 100% sure and frankly, could care less to go double check but how does that mean I know nothing about the fight? How Floyd is related to his trainer is irrelevant to why this fight has not happened. In my opinion, which is as worthless as yours, the fight will happen but not next. Late 2012 or 2013 for whatever drama or fabricated reason. For you to take FMM word on it tells me you have no clue about this fight. lol
@MikeSportsFan You dont believe either side yet in your very 1st comment you say "Mayweather hitting his girlfriend and stealing her cell phone certainly didn't help" when none of that has been proven in a court of law! I've talked to totally clueless people who dont follow boxing at all & dont know anything about the negotiations (including you) and they all know that roger is floyd's uncle... the truth is out their but you're not that much of a "sportsfan" to look for it.. leave it alone!
@bosdurgen74 Shit was in the news about the girlfriend incident but THAT AGAIN has nothing to do with the negotiations. I don't believe either side when it comes to the negotiations but you bring up the Uncle again and THAT of all things. Dude, not making your point at all. And as far as negotiations go, I am 99.99999% sure you are not in the negotiation room with them so guess what.. SURPRISE, you know just as much as I do because everything you "KNOW", you read an article that I read too. LOL
@MikeSportsFan It was also in the news about Pacquiao's performance enhancing drug allegations, yet its cool for you to bring up Floyd's "allegations" of him beating up his ex girl friend but you defend Pacquiao's allegations... you're about as BIASED as it gets. Plus i dont read "articles" because most "articles" are opinionated.. I get my info from direct quotes and following people who get their info from the horses mouth... Just give up already, you're way behind.
@bosdurgen74 Dude, I like how you put words in my mouth because I never defended Pacquiao on taking Performance Enhancers. Nice try though. Someone said you can't bring up the trouble with the law because they are allegations, well the steroids for Pacquiao are also allegations, never said I was OK with it, never said he was innocent, and never said he should not have to take the tests. And you never would call me biased if you watched my Pac video, I am a fan but no one is above criticism.
@MikeSportsFan You're failing to comprehend.. Im not putting words in your mouth.. In your 1st comment you said "Mayweather hitting his girlfriend and stealing her cell phone certainly didn't help" You stated that as if it was a fact not an allegation.. Then in a later comment you said "There is NO proof Manny takes steroids either just allegations" You gave manny the allegation treatment yet you made the statement about floyd as if it was a fact.. Review your comments.. You're biased!
@bosdurgen74 Yeah, I brought that up in my first comment when I was asking why Mayweather was not brought up in the video! And it whether it is true or not, it IS FACT that it interfered in his career because between that and some pussy security guard, it would have been too much of a distraction to focus on a fight. And his Uncle was due in court too so he couldn't commit to anything. So it may be Pacquiao fault to a large degree but it has been dragging on due to complication with FMM as well.
@MikeSportsFan true but you cant forget that bob arum continuously prepares fights for manny before they can further negotiate with floyd.. for example he had the margarito fight ready immediately after the clottey fight, the mosley fight immediately ready after the maragrito fight, the juan manuel marquez 3 fight ready before he even fought mosley, which leads me to believe even if floyd was not having his issues outside the ring.. the fight still would not have been made because of arum..
@bosdurgen74 NOw I KNOW you haven't seen my video cause I trash Manny Pacquiao for this. CLottey.... fine, I will take that as a younger fighter who might give Manny problems with defense, a tune up at best, but Margarito... WTF!?! Not only why is Pacquiao fighting him, but how the hell did Margarito get a title shot?!... fine another tune up.. MOSLEY!?!?! Based on what does PAcquiao get to fight him? FIne, he's retired.. now Bradley, Ortiz MARQUEZ!?! Fuck this and fuck Arum
@bosdurgen74 Ok, going back over our "debate" and I stand corrected about the 100 million dollar thing cause I saw that.... I think on PTI or ATH, but either way, I am done arguing about Mayweather/Pacquiao. Been arguing it for .. 2 years now it seems and its been the same thing over and over. You win, I was not build for the championship rounds apparently and it will just end in childish name calling and questioning the other's intelligence or with the words Pactard or Flomo.
@MikeSportsFan Mayweather never said out of his own mouth he wants 100 Mill. That was Roger talking out of his ass. And as far as the girlfriend thing, neither you or me was there so we don't know what happened. The only fact we know is the same woman admitted to lying on him before, we know how woman are, and that has nothing to do with Pacquiao refuse to take a simple blood test. Floyd has made it clear if the test is taken, they will fight. Pacquiao has made it clear he doesn't want to test.
@OutsideTheRopes I don't keep up with the side drama of boxing, just what I hear from videos here and there so not suprised I was wrong about the girl friend thing or the 100 million dollar thing but the girl friend thing still stands because the legal procedures and such have kept him from fighting, also I think his trainer was in court too and you are not going to fight without your trainer. And the long vacations he takes makes a tune up fight neccessary every time he comes back also.
And yes, Victor Ortiz is a tune up fight. So was making JMM jump 2 weight classes to fight him. Victor is the PERFECT person for FMM to pick apart, holy crap, Dont know any real fans who think he actually has a good chance taking away "the puncher's chance" but Ortiz has one impressive victory and it was against a guy who had not proven ANYTHING prior to that fight in Berto... all we know is Victor is wild and he gives up when frustrated... PERFECT opponent for FMM. Glad Ortiz will be exposed.
And although your videos are necessary to counter the anti Floyd videos, you and all your Pactard hating subscribers and all the ....whatever you call a Mayweather fan subscribers are ridiculous if you think this fight won't happen. Actually, on top of that, why do you even care anymore. This shit became almost as annoying as the Favre and Lebron exposure, it's the same story over and over and when it comes down to it, FLoyd will meet Pac half way cause... it's a shit load of money.. just wait.
@MikeSportsFan Floyd didn't make Marquez jump up in weight. I remember Marquez calling Mayweather out after he knocked Diaz out. So Floyd accepted the challange only because pacquiao had 2 close fights Marquez. What opponent at 147 besides Pacquiao it's not a tune up fight for Floyd? He so much technically better than everybody that any fight for Floyd is going to be called a tune up and you know it. Even if he fights Khan, people will say Floyd is cherry pickin a bum that got KO'D by Prescott.
@OutsideTheRopes Well technically he did make him jump up cause he was not going to drop weight, and people call out Manny and Money every day, they don't have to accept all challengers. Just like how Manny is making Marques jump up in weight, same thing. Also, who cares what media and non fans say, Khan vs. Money is not a tune up, regardless of how it is viewed. Talking about the Khan fight from that long ago at a different weight is as irrelevant as Pacman vs. JMM all those years ago...
PAcquiao is a MUCH different fighter from his featherweight days. Even the BIGGEST hater can acknowlege that, but like I said before, this is all meh... none of it matters cause it is the same story from three years ago. I love Pacquiao and hate and appreciate Floyd the same way I did Jordan but wanting these two to fight is frustrating and it would have made more money... 2 years ago, don't you think? It will still make a CRAZY amount of money but.. the buzz is more annoying that anythign now.
Anyways, great videos man, keep em up and how about some videos on the super six, think Bute is as good as the hype? Why wasn't he in the tournament? Doesn't make sense
@MikeSportsFan Im a fan of Bute. He did get that one gift decision but i think he's the real deal because at least he came back and redeemed himself in the rematch. From the very begining I thought he should be in the tournament, I don't know why he wasn't. But he'll fight the winner of the super six and i'm thinkin it might be Ward who i wasn't a big fan of before the tourney but he grew on me, same with Froch, i coundn't stand him before the tourney now i'm a fan of both finalist.
"STAY DUCKING"
rayalvarado24 3 months ago
Floyd frears Southpaw its a fact
xxxirelandxxx123 4 months ago
@xxxirelandxxx123 How is that a fact he's fought southpaws b4 and only had trouble with Judah early but he adjusted quick just like always. Plus he just fought a southpaw that never even came close to putting him in trouble so where's your facts?
OutsideTheRopes 3 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes look bck at floyd fights . Judah should hav a knock down aswell , Corley hav floyd in trouble aswell they landed big shots, manny a monster compare 2 judah n corley thats y they fight not being made floyd is scare of powerfull southpaw
xxxirelandxxx123 3 months ago
@xxxirelandxxx123 buh he beaten all da southpaws easily, pacman is no contest is what the media and bob arum right fights made it look like a contest
soufldn21 1 month ago
@soufldn21 Judah n Corley gav him all he could handle in the first 6 rounds then they got tired, Manny is a monster compare 2 them ,twice as much Power more accurate and faster, This is boxing anything can happen If , Mosley had floyd out on hes feet if that was manny in that position i wuld say it wuld be all over
xxxirelandxxx123 1 month ago
@xxxirelandxxx123 Did they win though? No. So i don't understand your arguement. Corley had him hurt for a few seconds, he was never in serious trouble. It's like I always say. Being hurt and being in trouble are to different things. In trouble means your close to being stopped. Hurt means you got stunned and you might be on shaky legs for a few seconds. Plus Judah and Corley had slick styles, sneaky styles that Manny doesn't have.
OutsideTheRopes 4 weeks ago
@OutsideTheRopes if Manny had floyd in trouble he will finish it , Thats the different between him a Judah , Corley n Mosley ,Fitness wise manny doesnt tired N look floyd Rejected a 50/50 deal That tells everything
xxxirelandxxx123 4 weeks ago
@xxxirelandxxx123 He hasn't finish his last few opponents so what makes you think he can finish a guy that hasn't been defeated? I think he would look just as bad as Marquez did against Floyd if not worse. Pacquiao rejecting a blood test tells everything.
OutsideTheRopes 4 weeks ago
@OutsideTheRopes Manny agreed to everything as usual Cmon greedy wanker rejecting 50-50 spilt and Manny the face of boxing and look at floyd fights against southpaw
xxxirelandxxx123 2 weeks ago
@xxxirelandxxx123 Your retarded...learn how to process basic information. Floyd has never lost to a southpaw don't you get it?If Manny was the face of boxing, then why isn't Floyd the one begging for 50%? Go back to pre-school you fuckin idiot.
OutsideTheRopes 2 weeks ago
take the test pedquiao !!!!!
TheRey4you 4 months ago
Take the test Manny.
617whitey 5 months ago
Good video man, LOL
Gambeino 6 months ago
Filipinos are cheaters...go back to your corrupt nation.
TheRealStinkyface 6 months ago
$10 million per pound penalty- 30 days- 24 days- 14 days- 7 days- Floyd is bigger than me- I'm afraid of needles- No USADA- WADA- Lawsuit ....Yes, Pacquiao is on drugs
Hitman1190 6 months ago
@Outsidetheropes Do you think people who can't see whats REALLY going on with this Mayweather vs Pacquiao thing is like folks who thought the world was FLAT! These people believe this to the point that they would kill you if you didn't believe. One interesting fact is at the time these folks believe this the rest of the world didn't.
Its sad that we live in a world were people don't care about facts or the truth anymore! Its like Pactards are the same folks who believe the earth was Flat.
anonymousprofess 6 months ago
and for all you guys typing racist comments about filipino i have 1 word ya'll SUCK MY DICK !!! ya'll smell like a frozen fuck! ROFL we all love boxing so stick to arguments hahaha peace!
redslash1000 7 months ago
@redslash1000 Haha, you want men to suck your dick? Damn bakla lmao. All of you motherfuckers are gay as fuck.
TriMOTinHD 6 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes this is what you think what you can say "but " america is the best they say if you want a lab/ hospital for cancer biopsy if you want to survive cancer go to the u.s.a. for testing blood/urine/saliva or what ever shit. if you want a case close there is fbi and i truely believe it and its very true indeed america in best in that aspect. now my QUESTION is where is your legal evidence and legal proof of facts? nothing against you bro just being real i love the sport of boxing..
redslash1000 7 months ago
I'm just kidding. You are the greatest. I would never doubt anything you say. I'm a dumb retarded 2 left feet alien eyed Filipino. Who sleeps on a bed of straw hay next to dog shit. You are the best outsidetheropes. Please forgive me. Mayweather is the best boxer ever. Poochiao is a coward who wants nothing of Mayweather. I'm a Filipino who bows down to the great black people. I'm sorry, please forgive me if you can.
johndaneilos 7 months ago
@johndaneilos forgive you for what? I'm lost.
OutsideTheRopes 7 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes For calling you a poster. You are the greatest. I will never doubt you. You bring the real in boxing.
johndaneilos 7 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes, forgive him for being a stupid, dumb pactard! lol
mexrider1 5 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes bro he is being a smart ass towards you..
19STL88 4 weeks ago
@johndaneilos lol, dumb yellow monkey.
PacquiaosPimp 6 months ago
@johndaneilos All Filipinos can dance, how can you do that with 2 left feel?
MikeSportsFan 6 months ago
,,l,,
mactaba99 7 months ago
Manny Pacquiao is ducker
DarthMuse 7 months ago
boxing has great minds and mental midgets all rolled up into one~.....the good the bad and the ugly.....some of the most racist stupid people are boxing fanatics, along with some of the smart ones like yours truly...i dont go for race or creed or nationality, i go for talent in the ring...both floyd and pac are as talented as they come, and lets pray then enter the ring and leave out the crackhead rumors and the greedy interests of promoters and flunkies!
flyinghotwing 7 months ago
LOL where are all the pactards lately ? When Floyds whoops that ass they will disappear completely
killuminativol1 7 months ago
Khan has more chance of beating Mayweather than Pacquiao.
maju786 7 months ago
@maju786 As little a chance as I give Khan (even though i like him) against Mayweather, you are right, Pacquiao has even less.
obewild 7 months ago
That ugly cunt pacman is going to be toast when Floyd gets him in the ring. Not even 'roids are gonna save that ugly gremlin looking cunt.
ezekielthemack 7 months ago
Foydie looks so scared on that interview...
hollyandrea05 7 months ago
Very well put together vid. I like the way you put the Hagler clip at the end. I saw that whole interview and loved the way pactards took it out of context. Marvin definitely believed that that Floyd was asking pacroid to take the test without Floyd having to be tested.
TheRenegadeAssassin 7 months ago
pactards hidin in tha bushes
superfightstv 7 months ago
LMAO! I know this poster. He's @FlipBeggar who fakes his account to disguise as Filipino.
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EXPOSED!!! LOLOLOL!
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johndanielos 7 months ago 15
MANNYS FULL OF SHIT HAS BEEN AN WILL CONTINUE TO BE EXCUSE AFTER EXCUSE AFTER EXCUSE LIE AFTER LIE AFTER LIE AN SOMEHOW ITS FLOYD WHOS DUCKING AN FLOYD WHOS A COWARD THIS SHITS A JOKE YOU CAN TELL WHO THE BITCH IS BY WHO THEY FIGHT MANNY LOVES HIS HEAVY DOSE OF LEFTOVERS,VAULNERABLE OPPONENTS,AN BAD TIMED MATCH UPS HES A FUCKING SHAM IF FLOYDS OPPONENTS SUCK SO BAD THEN MANNYS SUCK WORST EITHER FLOYD OR SOMEBODY ELSE HAS ALWAYS BEAT'EM 1ST AN ORTIZ IS YOUNG UP AN COMER MANNY WOULDNT DARE;)>
memyselfandi770 7 months ago
even if manny takes the test now..and passes...it doesn't mean that he never took any..it's been more than 2 years now since they requested for the testing..what if he stopped right after floyd made the request ? then he already got the benefits and he won't get caught..
raizen357 7 months ago 10
@raizen357 what benefits??/.....just like when fernando vargas pumped himself with steroids right before his fight with oscar....and oscar, who is LESS talented than floyd, overcame fernando's early storm and when he tired, typical of the steroid user lookin for a second wind, oscar tagged that ass...youre gonna tell me pac used and now stopped yet he is at an advantage over floyd? who is to say then w that logic,that floyd didnt use a few years ago?
flyinghotwing 7 months ago
LOL comedy "we will fight paul williams next cause we saw his last 2 fights". LOL yea u got tht right they will fight pauls williams next, hell he may give Zab Judah achance next.
okcboi 7 months ago
Gambeino's younger brother ChuckyLee is a Floyd fan and he said Floyd is scared. Search this on YouTube: "...A Floyd fan CHUCKYLEE said Mayweather is scared of Manny Pacquiao ..."
killerbenNYC 7 months ago
@killerbenNYC He deleted it but i saw it so that's suppose make it a fact?
OutsideTheRopes 7 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes I didnt say if it was fact or not ropes just thought it would add some flavor to the convo. I can't make videos for shyt so I watch all of yalls. this one is good. r u from cali?
killerbenNYC 7 months ago
@killerbenNYC Yeah i'm from Cali.
OutsideTheRopes 7 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes yo bro this vid was unnecessary cause everybody with common sense know the fight will happend next year ...
dapperdonmilli 7 months ago
@dapperdonmilli we don't know that now. i'm sure if it will ever happen. i don't know if you know this but manny's next fight with JMM will be his last fight with HBO. he just signed to Showtime boxing. so how they will make this fight happen with floyd being with hbo and manny being with showtime is beyond me. "???" is why would manny leave the money network in hbo to go to second best showtime. this will buy them a good 1.5 years. the networks will never agree to this shit. look it up fam
Veechie4short 7 months ago
@Veechie4short Really? I didn't even hear about this yet. Wow. Floyd is super not going to leave HBO not even for 1 fight. There goes that.
OutsideTheRopes 7 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes i heard it on ESNEWS here on youtube from reporter Eli Seckbach. he's judged over 30 pro fights and has interviews with manny, sergio, floyd, mosley, and paul williams in person. As of now it's still a rumour as of today but it's expected to be announced, official, and signed after sometime after JMM fight. I believe the source. his channel has over 5,ooo interviews with pro boxeres and trainners including the mayweather's, roach and ariza. youtube: HBO Lost Pacquiao to Showtime
Veechie4short 7 months ago
n i thought my video was good see you put some time into this one good video fam
truBoxingfan 7 months ago
@truBoxingfan Thanks bruh yours was good too. You ripped bubbles apart.
OutsideTheRopes 7 months ago
I don't think Pac's juicing. I do think Arum is doing everything in his power to make as much money off of Pac before they fight as he can. It's personal and business with Arum. To have to split money with Floyd and have a good shot of his fighter losing to him would be killer for him. Roach and Pac kind of road the PR wave since it was working while Floyd wasn't saying shit. Now he is and that camp is scrambling. They'll fight and Pac will take the test. Nothing else Arum can make up now.
sbekele1 7 months ago
It's as simple as this....right now Pac and PBF both know that they both have a chance to lose this fight....and neither is willing to take the risk....so they will both continue to make excuses
SinCityMadman 7 months ago
BitchDog need to put her shirt back on those are some shemale tits!!!! 2:04
PacquiaosPimp 7 months ago
jokes..lol
AkaEmmanuel 7 months ago
Good video, still hope Pac is clean but it's all seeming a bit to odd now. I don't understand why he won't end all the doubt, and just do whatever it takes to proves the doubters wrong. If i was innocent i honestly believe thats what i would do
jesuscake888 7 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes you know that your cheating or fooling yourself when you used a 5-sec clip of hagler's interview that benefits your side on this argument, when you know that in that intervew it is obvious that hagler thinks that this mess is on floyd's.
he compared it to someone who is dictating,fits the phrase "who are you?" as hagler puts it,
borjyboy 7 months ago
@borjyboy The clip was put at the end of this vid for a good reason. Pactards have used the clip against Mayweather saying he shouldn't be dictating as you said, however I put the clip in to flip it on pactards to prove that Haglar didn't even know that Floyd said he would take the test too. He thought that Floyd was only asking Manny to take it with wouldn't be fair. Using the 5 sec clip wasn't cheating or fooling myself, it was brilliant.
OutsideTheRopes 7 months ago
@borjyboy - You tell him, man. He likes that cut and paste shit.
boxingaddict25 7 months ago
@boxingaddict25 you see he hasn't replied to the reason i added that clip.
OutsideTheRopes 7 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes - Question: Do you use the word 'Pactard' to refer to anyone who believes that Manny is innocent until proven guilty? If so, that is pretty childish.
boxingaddict25 7 months ago
@boxingaddict25 I've given my definition of a pactard before but i'll do it again just for you. A pactard is a extreme fan of pacquiao. A pactard will never admit when pacquiao is wrong even if there's proof. Pactards don't pay attention to fact. They say a buch of fantasy shit to prove their point. Example: "Floyd wants to use the USADA because he's on PED's and USADA will swith his test with Manny's". That was an actual comment too lol. Then when you prove them wrong, they get racist.
OutsideTheRopes 7 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes Spot on
BlackPoisonxX 7 months ago
wtf r u talkin about floyd is demanding it if pacquiao doesent want to take it then floyd wont fight, so basically floyd is saying if u dont take this test i wont fight u, thats demanding, i request can be turned down and u can still go throught with it, stop with this bull shit its old
supermasters1 7 months ago
@supermasters1 So Many requesting, oh i mean demanding 8 ounce gloves, the ring size, and 100 million dollars per pound over the wealterweight limit is okay? Remember when the Cotto fight fell apart the first time because Manny was demanding a catchweight of 145, and demanded Cotto's 147 pound title to be on the line? Cotto didn't want to do it and what did Manny do? He said he won't fight him then, so Cotto had to bend to Manny's demands. Don't a hypocrite. You don't want to debate me
OutsideTheRopes 7 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes pacquiao didnt demand 8 ounce gloves, cause when floyd fought zab , zab had 8 ounce gloves and floyd has 10 ounce so i dont see the problem, floyd wanted the pac to have 10 ounce glove from the beginning, the 10 mill for weight was becuas how floyd go over over on marques, shit marques came up llike 15 pounds and flod cant lose 3 pounds to fight so floyd paid half a mil to keep the 2 lbs on. manny didnt demand against cotto if anything freddy did
supermasters1 7 months ago
@supermasters1 Your last comment proves that your unwilling to admit that Manny makes demands too. I believe in 2006, the commision changed the rules that fighter 135 lbs and above had to wear 10 ounce gloves because 2 people had died. They're always telling Floyd let the commision do their job but yet Manny is still demanding 8 ounce gloves. At least do some research before you claim he didn't demand 8 ounce gloves because he did. The point is, Floyd is not the only one asking for shit so stop.
OutsideTheRopes 7 months ago
24 dislikes man these pactards need to know their role and crawl back to the cave they came from
mannygatillo 7 months ago
@mannygatillo - So in your deluded mind, anyone who thinks Pacquiao has accomplished everything he has from hard work and dedication and not drugs is a "pactard" even though there isn't a shred of evidence that he's ever used anything? Do I have that right? Man, you are a pathetic individual.
boxingaddict25 7 months ago
Hey man why wont you allow your video to playback on iphone ?
sarracen1 7 months ago
@sarracen1 I don't know why it does that. I didn't put that setting on the vid. I'll look into it.
OutsideTheRopes 7 months ago
Manny is CLEARLY scared of fighting Mayweather clean and drug free
BlackPoisonxX 7 months ago
@BlackPoisonxX - You are CLEARLY an idiot.
boxingaddict25 7 months ago
@boxingaddict25 explaination please
BlackPoisonxX 7 months ago
@BlackPoisonxX - Well, whenever someone makes a statement like the one you made, which is completely based on your own subjective opinion rather than on facts and reason, it's to be expected that you'll get called out for it. What basis in fact do you have to support your assertion? If you don't have one than your comment is both irresponsible and ignorant.
boxingaddict25 7 months ago
@boxingaddict25 1) The excuses Manny gave (Afraid of needles, Superstitious Blood test will weaken him) 2) The 21 then 14 day window and wanting to know when he will be tested 3) Recently Arum stating they want a foreign organisation to handle the random drug testing it's obvious to me he wants this because he knows he can't bribe the USADA if Manny tests dirty. This all leads me to believe Manny is on something and they don't want to send him in with Floyd clean.
BlackPoisonxX 7 months ago
@BlackPoisonxX - 1) He never said he was afraid of needles. That's something you Pacquiao haters have clung to for the longest time, and it's not even true. He did say he feels that getting blood drawn weakens him, but he said that a long time ago when he fought Morales for the 1st time. It's not something he came up with just for Mayweather. 2) Just because he asked for a cut off date for something he isn't even required to do does NOT mean he uses drugs. 3) Arum did NOT state they want a
boxingaddict25 7 months ago
@boxingaddict25 - "foreign organization" to handle the random drug testing. He has stated he doesn't want USADA to do it because he feels it has a bias towards Mayweather, but that he's willing to go through WADA which is the most well-respected drug testing agency in the world. Now there is more to this, but the bottom line is that he is willing to agree for the random blood tests to happen. It's just a matter of who will conduct these tests.
boxingaddict25 7 months ago
@boxingaddict25 Of course that reason alone ( point 2) doesn't automatically mean he's on drugs 100% but it does raise suspicion. Bob Arums recent statement about wanting to bring a foreign drug testing company also raises a few eyebrows. The point is I have a strong feeling Mr Manny is using performance enhancers and has been using them for a while
BlackPoisonxX 7 months ago
@boxingaddict25 how is it youy know what these guys said...was you around them all day??? i use to think you was cool man but you have turned out to be another pactard
BloodBoxingReturnz 7 months ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Hitman1190 7 months ago
FLOYD MAYWEATHER AND 313 MICHIGAN ALL DAY!! MANNY PACQUIAO IS SCARED, TO TAKE THE DAMN SIMPLE TEST! WHY YOU ASK? BECAUSE HE'S HIDING SOMETHING!! MAKE BOTH OF THEM, TAKE THE DAMN TEST, AND GIVE US THE PEOPLE, AN FANS WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE!! THE "FIGHT OF THE DECADE". WHAT THE FUCK IS THE PROBLEM? BOXING IS FALLING OFF!! NOW GIVE THE FANS, WHAT THEY WANT!! ITS NO DOUBT, THAT THIS FIGHT WILL GENERATE MUCH MONEY...EVEN ON PAY PER VIEW!! SO MAKE IT DO, WHAT ITS SUPPOSED TO DO!
313shauwn 7 months ago
@313shauwn - Let me guess: You are an uneducated black male in your late teens or early twenties who simply sides with Mayweather because he's got the same skin tone as yourself. Am I warm? I bet I'm red hot.
boxingaddict25 7 months ago
@boxingaddict25 let me guess! your unemployed...your fat wife divorced you...your dick is too small to make babies...you have no friends...your photo is uploaded on many different dating site...And your still jacking off, at the age of 45! am I rite? me! why i'm a professional business man, with many college degrees! I'm a very successful business man. I own my own businesses! I own many properties! I have money to burn! many women in my life! and yea, i'm fucking your x-wife now! lol!
313shauwn 7 months ago
@313shauwn - I knew I was right about you. lol
boxingaddict25 7 months ago
@boxingaddict25 moral of this conversation...don't fuck with the boss!!!! your still living with your momma lil boy! now go clean your room up! your room is in the basement rite? lol!!
313shauwn 7 months ago
I'm not with the back n fourth banter between Pac n May fans, I think they're both great fighters but Floyd is better.. A great defense should beat a great offense in any pro sport. I don't think either man is ducking either man, I think Floyd does believe that Manny has a good chance to beat him and that's why he is so adamant about the testing and it actually shows how much he respects Manny. Team Pac is not ducking, I just think they don't believe Floyd should be dictating the fight terms.
jso416 7 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes fight aint gunna happen anytime soon roach and arum know aswell as anyone else does who knows anything about boxing that manny cant beat floyd. thats why roach is desperate to force khan on floyd to prevent him from fighting manny and arum with the new roadblocks on testing. problem is alot of people hate floyd so much that they will spin to make it look like floyds dodging
MrJonnyl123 7 months ago
I hope Floyd will just fight like any other boxers and be a man and not use alibis to duck fights. He said he is just taking one step at a time on fighting Pacquiao. He will reach his step one day & fight Pacquiao. it will happen. Floyd will be ready for Pacquiao.
itoako61 7 months ago
boxers do take post fight blood tests, as a person who cycles steroids i know that you will fail a blood test 10 times out of 10 if you take anything, all these designer compounds have a high half life of 2 or 3 months .. plus your indicating that pacman also uses "the clear" to stop it in urine, it doesnt work in blood as its a totally different test looking for resting rates
seriously if pacman does take the test and passes you all will be asking for bone marrow next
EuropeanBoxingNews 7 months ago
@EuropeanBoxingNews I'm not indicating that he uses the clear, the point is if your clean take the test. He's the one making himself look bad at this point because the test shouldn't be this big of a deal you gotta admit that at least. Bone Marrow? You make it seems as if i want him to be dirty. I just want him to take the test because that's the only way the fight is going to happen. But they get real funny when the test is mentioned and i wonder why.
OutsideTheRopes 7 months ago
Normally when there is a solid story everyone is on the same page. Say what you want about Floyd but he seems to be consistant with what he says and what he does. I cant see how a man is telling the world that he will take this test but the fight still hasnt happened. Does anyone find this strange besides me?
batosmak 7 months ago
The entire part of this video where you pull up quotes from guys in Pac's camp to try and show how they all say something different with regard to Manny accepting all of Floyd's demands is dishonest. What you've done is you've taken quotes from the past and mixed them with quotes from the present. If you were unbiased then you would have showed where you got those quotes from and what dates they were stated.
boxingaddict25 7 months ago
@boxingaddict25 They said all of this recently buddy. The only things that i put from the past were the excuses they made not to take the test since the whole thing started.
OutsideTheRopes 7 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes - Bullshit. You: "Let's not forget all that's happened 'over the past several weeks'" ...Arum: "We've agreed to all Floyd's demands." Next quote from Roach: "We never agreed to any testing. That's why we can't ask Shane to do it because we refuse to do it ourselves." The quote from Arum was said over the past several weeks regarding Mayweather. The quote from Roach was said BEFORE Pac's fight with Mosley. They aren't even related. This is a joke.
boxingaddict25 7 months ago
@boxingaddict25 Questions for you. If they never agreed to take the test at all, then doesn't that mean whenever Arum said that they did agree it was still a lie? Stop it. How many weeks is several? You do remember that the mosley fight was only in May right?
OutsideTheRopes 7 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes - I'm afraid you just don't know what you're talking about. When you say "they never agreed to take the test at all" you are displaying pure ignorance. There is a video on YT that was posted a couple months ago in which an interviewer asks Pacquiao if he's willing to take random blood tests with NO cut off date in order to make the fight with Mayweather. He clearly says he will. Arum has since been saying the same thing. How have you not heard about this?
boxingaddict25 7 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes - How many weeks is several? I'd say 3 or 4. It's been several MONTHS since that quote came out of Freddie's mouth, not several WEEKS.
boxingaddict25 7 months ago
@boxingaddict25 (Buzz Sound) Wrong. A few weeks is 3 or 4. Several would be 4 or more. There are 4 weeks in a month. The fight was in May, this is July. Nice try. Neeext.
OutsideTheRopes 7 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes - (Buzz Sound) Wrong. Several: Being more than 2 but fewer than many in number or kind. The day of the fight was May 7th. Freddie said that a number of days or weeks BEFORE the fight on 24/7. I can't recall which episode he said it on. You just posted this YESTERDAY. There is less than a week left in July. That means it has been several MONTHS. Neeext.
boxingaddict25 7 months ago
@boxingaddict25 (Buzz) Still wrong .So basically your trying to convince me that several is less than a few lol. I'm done talking to you about this because your completely wrong and you know it. Were did you get that answer from askdotcom? And you cherrypicked the only answer that was wrong lol. Several weeks is the same as a few month. I'm too smart not to know that. Neeeeext.
OutsideTheRopes 7 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes - Actually I got that from the dictionary you fucking moron. lol
boxingaddict25 7 months ago
@boxingaddict25 I though we were debating respectfully, but now that i'm owning you, you have resorted to name calling with is very childish and pactardish. Next time your outta here.
OutsideTheRopes 7 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes - How exactly are you owning me when I just exposed you? Go to dictionarydotcom and type in the word 'several'. See what the definition is. It's exactly what I said it was: Being more than 2 but fewer than many in number of kind. Then you have the nerve to tell me I'm "completely wrong." It's not from askdotcom. It's from dictionarydotcom. Now what?
boxingaddict25 7 months ago
@boxingaddict25 Go type in the diffrence between a few and several and tell me what you come up with. Anyway nit picking of one word i chose to use doesn't change the fact that they all have said diffrent stories. It was only like a week or so ago when Pacquiao advisor said out of his own mouth that they never agreed to any test. Saying they agreed to actually agreeing and signing are two diffrent things. This is what i mean by me owning you.
OutsideTheRopes 7 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes - The only difference between "a few" and "several" is that the former is "more than one but less than many" while the latter is "more than 2 but less than many". That's according to the dictionary. You are the one who called me out about the word 'several.' You stated that you were done talking to me because I was "completely wrong." Now you're changing the subject because you've found out that YOU are the one who is wrong.
boxingaddict25 7 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes - So now you're saying that you're owning me not because I don't understand what the word 'several' means, but because Pacquiao's adviser said "a week or so ago" that they never agreed to any test. I follow boxing news daily, and I haven't read any article within the past week or so wherein Pacquiao's adviser made such a statement. What is your source? Give me the link to the article or video where you saw this.
boxingaddict25 7 months ago
@boxingaddict25 - Next you're gonna tell me that dictionarydotcom isn't a reliable source for the definitions of words, right? lol. You said "several would be 4 or more" but the dictionary seems to disagree with you. Hmm, I wonder who I should believe...
boxingaddict25 7 months ago
@boxingaddict25 Like I said a pactard always thinks he's right. You declinded to talk about the fact that the one word you disagree with still doesn't disprove the fact that Manny's advisor said they never agreed. Why are you dancing around the topic. Rather it was a couple, few, or several weeks or months ago, it still doesn't change the fact that when they said they agreed, even if it was 2 years ago, they lied. Now dance around that or keep talking about what several means lol
OutsideTheRopes 7 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes - You mentioned the word childish. What's childish to me is whenever someone disagrees with you about something regarding Pacquiao you label them a Pactard. Now THAT is childish. The technical term for it is ad hominem. You're appealing to emotions to try to win an argument because you don't have any facts. It's not that I THINK I"m right, I've PROVED I was right, and anyone who reads our exchanges who is of sound mind will see that that is the case.
boxingaddict25 7 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes - And I asked you to provide a link to a recent article or video in which Pacquiao's adviser said that Pacquiao has never agreed to take random blood tests. That is how you would prove your assertion, but rather than do that you just expect me to take your word for it. As I said, I read boxing articles every single day on boxingscene, espn, and other websites. All I've read is that Arum and Pacquiao have both stated that they have agreed to the tests.
boxingaddict25 7 months ago
So many of these quotes are either easily refutable or flat out false, and all you're doing with this video is appealing to the ignorant Pac haters who haven't done any research on their own, but simply jump on the bandwagon of hating this man for no good reason. It's pathetic. The quote you say is your "favorite" about Manny being scared of needles is totally false. He never even said that. You are a charlatan, an ignoramus, and a Pac hater. Plain and simple.
boxingaddict25 7 months ago
pac already accepted all the way to the fight using WADA. so this case is history its all up for floyd to accept or not. what really surprise me is floyds having no confidence with his skillls. Do u mean an amatuer style like pac has the chance against the best skilled in boxing? he defeated marquez with his jab he can do the same with pac easy and yet he's still ducking.
jcsgasco 7 months ago
@jcsgasco You dont follow to well neither.. Pac still wants a cut off date.. bob arum came out with the bull shit that pac agreed to testing all the way up to the fight through WADA, but WADA has already stated that they do not do testing themselves so it looks like bob lied to you and its still up to manny and his team if the fight happens or not.. stop listening to Arum.. He's making all pacfans look dumb!
bosdurgen74 7 months ago
omg just fight Mayweather already Pacroids.
flamebot4475 7 months ago
You make some good points but how about some points on Mayweather. He is not completely innocent in the whole process as well. its not ALL Pacquiao's fault. Mayweather hitting his girlfriend and stealing her cell phone certainly didn't help, his two long vacations and in the beginning wanted more than a 50/50 split. Than at one point, not sure on this one, he said he wanted like a 100 million dollars to fight him. None of this gets in the video?
MikeSportsFan 7 months ago
@MikeSportsFan floyd agreed to a 50/50 split
MrRolltide91 7 months ago
@MikeSportsFan What does any of that have to do with the fight? If Manny accepted the test in the first place, the fight wouldve already happened.
CHRISTIANNWO 7 months ago
@MikeSportsFan you havent been following to well... the 100 mill thing was debunked a long time ago.and theres no proof floyd hit his kid's mother.. thats why none of that makes the video.
bosdurgen74 7 months ago
@bosdurgen74 watch?v=CIKedIMYFu4
jmcg1010 7 months ago
@jmcg1010 nice try with the link... but like i said the 100 mill thing was debunked awhile ago.. do your homework next time before sending worthless links like you got something to prove!
bosdurgen74 7 months ago
@bosdurgen74 watch?v=GUA9zvSClm4
jmcg1010 7 months ago
@jmcg1010 lol silly pactard.. Im not even looking at these vids you send me.. all im doing is looking at the thumbnail and you made yourself look silly by giving me a link to a video with bob arum on it... thats the problem with you pactards.. you listen to everything arum tells you when all he does is LIE.. He continues to lie because dumb ass pactards like yourself believe what he says.. those links show just how clueless you are!
bosdurgen74 7 months ago
@bosdurgen74 these links show how little I care. Boxing is bigger than Pacroid and Gayweather.
I should probably point out that Roger Mayweather being asked the question "what would it take for your nephew to fight Manny Pacquiao" and respond with "$100 million dollars" is about as conclusive as you can get when addressing this particular argument. Far more conclusive than the logical fallacies people like you are concocting
jmcg1010 7 months ago
@jmcg1010 You dont need to point out shit..If you dont care then dont send links and stay off of the videos that deal with mayweather and Pacquiao... Floyd Mayweather jr himself already addressed the 100 mill dollar claim on an interview done on fighthype a couple of months ago, you're stuck on old videos that prove nothing! None of those links you sent are conclusive at all... JUST LAUGHABLE!
bosdurgen74 7 months ago
@bosdurgen74 There is NO proof Manny takes steroids either just allegations. What Mayweather has against him are also ALLEGATIONS so why WOULDN'T it make the video? haha Why does everything have to be one sided? Where the fuck can I find an unbiased video? on youtube?
MikeSportsFan 6 months ago
@MikeSportsFan Pac made himself look bad by not wanting to take the blood tests & making all kinds of excuses to why he didnt want to take them.. There are plenty of unbiased vids on youtube on this subject, but if you're biased towards Pacquiao then every time an unbiased video is shown that depicts pacquiao and his camp as being the reason the fight has not happened you're gonna think that you're watching a video that's biased towards floyd... I know who's side is ducking & it aint floyd's
bosdurgen74 6 months ago
@bosdurgen74 team pac always agreed to random testing only if the International Boxing Commision or WADA did the random testing but floyd wants to hire a PRIVATE agency called USADA. USADA has a history of failing to catch athletes with PED's and they admitted to it. The table is back on floyd's hand. Oscar already twitted that Pac agreed to random testing. Only if floyd agrees to WADA doing the test, a neutral agency funded by various goverments around the world and the Olympic.
Gridlock84 6 months ago
@Gridlock84 Dude please shut up.. I get so sick and tired of some silly pacquiao fan getting on here and say pac agreed to random tests... NO HE DID NOT, He always wanted a cut off date.. USADA is not a private agency! They do testing in the united staes on behalf of WADA. WADA itself does not have an infrastucure to do testing themselves.. Oscar went back on that statement and said he wass not sure.. you dont realize how stupid you sound lol
bosdurgen74 6 months ago
@Gridlock84 please shut up.. I get sick and tired of silly pacquiao fan getting on here saying pac agreed to random tests... NO HE DID NOT, He always wanted a cut off date.. USADA is not a private agency! They do testing in the U.S on behalf of WADA. WADA itself does not have an infrastucure to do testing themselves.. Freddie roach & michael koncz have said THEY NEVER AGREED to RANDOM TESTS! Oscar went back on that statement and said he wass not sure.. you dont realize how stupid you sound lol
bosdurgen74 6 months ago
@bosdurgen74 they always agreed to random testing if it was done by the COMMISION or WADA.
i never said they agreed to random testing by USADA.
i never said WADA did the testing themselves. did you want me to write down that they only implemented the World Anti Doping Code?
remember pac is not american it only make sense that WADA does it because they are both from different countries.
calm down bro you are to emotional. you mad?
Gridlock84 6 months ago
@Gridlock84 LOL Another dumb comment & You sound confused!!! The nevada athletic COMMISION wont do random BLOOD TESTS, they had a hearing where they voted against it..It doesnt matter if Pac isn't American because if he's training in the U.S for the fight with floyd then USADA is in charge of giving the tests on behalf of WADA .. If Pac is training in the Philipines the an anti doping agency in the phillipines will do the tests on behalf of WADA you retard! Your stupidity is irritating me!
bosdurgen74 6 months ago
@bosdurgen74 i hope you realise that you are irritating yourself. You are incapable of comprehending what i'm trying to say. Your little childish insults shows insecurity. Grow up and when you are able to conversate maturely, talk to me.
Gridlock84 6 months ago
@Gridlock84 Theres no way in can comprehend what you're saying because you're NOT MAKING ANY FUCKING SENSE... You lack knowledge on this subject therefore every time you try to make an argument it irritates me to see how DUMB some people are!! Besides that, you 1st replied to a comment a had for someone else so I DONT NEED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT SHIT!!! You should know what your're talking about before commenting! Now move the fuck along!!
bosdurgen74 6 months ago
@bosdurgen74 thank you. at least you are able to admit that you are unable to comprehend such simple words that were put together to form a sentence. =D
I shall nickname you the Emotional Youtube Warrior.
Gridlock84 6 months ago
@Gridlock84 Yeah whatever... Go and learn something about the negotiations instead of making foolish comments... I'll nick name you the Typical Pactard Dumbass!!!!
bosdurgen74 6 months ago
@bosdurgen74 You call it unbiased but is it REALLY unbiased to only bash one side? Don't even ACT like Mayweather would have fight Pacquiao instead of Ortiz even if "he agreed to the tests". Mayweather takes such long breaks he needs tuneup fights, all fighters do. I just read an interview with Roger Mayweather and he said after Ortiz, his nephew.. or son, not sure and don't care of his relation, needs more tune up fights to prepare for Pacquiao. So I don't expect them to fight till 2013 tbh.
MikeSportsFan 6 months ago
@MikeSportsFan That's what you fail to understand.. Floyd is the one being "bashed" Most of the time people speak on Pacquiao's faults, it's not "bashing", it's the truth.. It doesn't matter what Roger says, Floyd already said that he's going to fight Pacquiao after Ortiz... All Manny has to do is agree to the blood tests Also, you dont even know that roger is Floyd's uncle which tells me you have no clue on anything about this fight.. You just believe what you want to believe..
bosdurgen74 6 months ago
@bosdurgen74 I don't believe either side to be honest. I said Uncle but wasn't 100% sure and frankly, could care less to go double check but how does that mean I know nothing about the fight? How Floyd is related to his trainer is irrelevant to why this fight has not happened. In my opinion, which is as worthless as yours, the fight will happen but not next. Late 2012 or 2013 for whatever drama or fabricated reason. For you to take FMM word on it tells me you have no clue about this fight. lol
MikeSportsFan 6 months ago
@MikeSportsFan You dont believe either side yet in your very 1st comment you say "Mayweather hitting his girlfriend and stealing her cell phone certainly didn't help" when none of that has been proven in a court of law! I've talked to totally clueless people who dont follow boxing at all & dont know anything about the negotiations (including you) and they all know that roger is floyd's uncle... the truth is out their but you're not that much of a "sportsfan" to look for it.. leave it alone!
bosdurgen74 6 months ago
@bosdurgen74 Shit was in the news about the girlfriend incident but THAT AGAIN has nothing to do with the negotiations. I don't believe either side when it comes to the negotiations but you bring up the Uncle again and THAT of all things. Dude, not making your point at all. And as far as negotiations go, I am 99.99999% sure you are not in the negotiation room with them so guess what.. SURPRISE, you know just as much as I do because everything you "KNOW", you read an article that I read too. LOL
MikeSportsFan 6 months ago
@MikeSportsFan It was also in the news about Pacquiao's performance enhancing drug allegations, yet its cool for you to bring up Floyd's "allegations" of him beating up his ex girl friend but you defend Pacquiao's allegations... you're about as BIASED as it gets. Plus i dont read "articles" because most "articles" are opinionated.. I get my info from direct quotes and following people who get their info from the horses mouth... Just give up already, you're way behind.
bosdurgen74 6 months ago
@bosdurgen74 Dude, I like how you put words in my mouth because I never defended Pacquiao on taking Performance Enhancers. Nice try though. Someone said you can't bring up the trouble with the law because they are allegations, well the steroids for Pacquiao are also allegations, never said I was OK with it, never said he was innocent, and never said he should not have to take the tests. And you never would call me biased if you watched my Pac video, I am a fan but no one is above criticism.
MikeSportsFan 6 months ago
@MikeSportsFan You're failing to comprehend.. Im not putting words in your mouth.. In your 1st comment you said "Mayweather hitting his girlfriend and stealing her cell phone certainly didn't help" You stated that as if it was a fact not an allegation.. Then in a later comment you said "There is NO proof Manny takes steroids either just allegations" You gave manny the allegation treatment yet you made the statement about floyd as if it was a fact.. Review your comments.. You're biased!
bosdurgen74 6 months ago
@bosdurgen74 Yeah, I brought that up in my first comment when I was asking why Mayweather was not brought up in the video! And it whether it is true or not, it IS FACT that it interfered in his career because between that and some pussy security guard, it would have been too much of a distraction to focus on a fight. And his Uncle was due in court too so he couldn't commit to anything. So it may be Pacquiao fault to a large degree but it has been dragging on due to complication with FMM as well.
MikeSportsFan 6 months ago
@MikeSportsFan true but you cant forget that bob arum continuously prepares fights for manny before they can further negotiate with floyd.. for example he had the margarito fight ready immediately after the clottey fight, the mosley fight immediately ready after the maragrito fight, the juan manuel marquez 3 fight ready before he even fought mosley, which leads me to believe even if floyd was not having his issues outside the ring.. the fight still would not have been made because of arum..
bosdurgen74 6 months ago
@bosdurgen74 NOw I KNOW you haven't seen my video cause I trash Manny Pacquiao for this. CLottey.... fine, I will take that as a younger fighter who might give Manny problems with defense, a tune up at best, but Margarito... WTF!?! Not only why is Pacquiao fighting him, but how the hell did Margarito get a title shot?!... fine another tune up.. MOSLEY!?!?! Based on what does PAcquiao get to fight him? FIne, he's retired.. now Bradley, Ortiz MARQUEZ!?! Fuck this and fuck Arum
MikeSportsFan 6 months ago
@bosdurgen74 Ok, going back over our "debate" and I stand corrected about the 100 million dollar thing cause I saw that.... I think on PTI or ATH, but either way, I am done arguing about Mayweather/Pacquiao. Been arguing it for .. 2 years now it seems and its been the same thing over and over. You win, I was not build for the championship rounds apparently and it will just end in childish name calling and questioning the other's intelligence or with the words Pactard or Flomo.
MikeSportsFan 6 months ago
@MikeSportsFan cool we can just agree to disagree... peace!
bosdurgen74 6 months ago
@MikeSportsFan Mayweather never said out of his own mouth he wants 100 Mill. That was Roger talking out of his ass. And as far as the girlfriend thing, neither you or me was there so we don't know what happened. The only fact we know is the same woman admitted to lying on him before, we know how woman are, and that has nothing to do with Pacquiao refuse to take a simple blood test. Floyd has made it clear if the test is taken, they will fight. Pacquiao has made it clear he doesn't want to test.
OutsideTheRopes 7 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes I don't keep up with the side drama of boxing, just what I hear from videos here and there so not suprised I was wrong about the girl friend thing or the 100 million dollar thing but the girl friend thing still stands because the legal procedures and such have kept him from fighting, also I think his trainer was in court too and you are not going to fight without your trainer. And the long vacations he takes makes a tune up fight neccessary every time he comes back also.
MikeSportsFan 7 months ago
And yes, Victor Ortiz is a tune up fight. So was making JMM jump 2 weight classes to fight him. Victor is the PERFECT person for FMM to pick apart, holy crap, Dont know any real fans who think he actually has a good chance taking away "the puncher's chance" but Ortiz has one impressive victory and it was against a guy who had not proven ANYTHING prior to that fight in Berto... all we know is Victor is wild and he gives up when frustrated... PERFECT opponent for FMM. Glad Ortiz will be exposed.
MikeSportsFan 7 months ago
And although your videos are necessary to counter the anti Floyd videos, you and all your Pactard hating subscribers and all the ....whatever you call a Mayweather fan subscribers are ridiculous if you think this fight won't happen. Actually, on top of that, why do you even care anymore. This shit became almost as annoying as the Favre and Lebron exposure, it's the same story over and over and when it comes down to it, FLoyd will meet Pac half way cause... it's a shit load of money.. just wait.
MikeSportsFan 7 months ago
@MikeSportsFan Floyd didn't make Marquez jump up in weight. I remember Marquez calling Mayweather out after he knocked Diaz out. So Floyd accepted the challange only because pacquiao had 2 close fights Marquez. What opponent at 147 besides Pacquiao it's not a tune up fight for Floyd? He so much technically better than everybody that any fight for Floyd is going to be called a tune up and you know it. Even if he fights Khan, people will say Floyd is cherry pickin a bum that got KO'D by Prescott.
OutsideTheRopes 7 months ago
@OutsideTheRopes Well technically he did make him jump up cause he was not going to drop weight, and people call out Manny and Money every day, they don't have to accept all challengers. Just like how Manny is making Marques jump up in weight, same thing. Also, who cares what media and non fans say, Khan vs. Money is not a tune up, regardless of how it is viewed. Talking about the Khan fight from that long ago at a different weight is as irrelevant as Pacman vs. JMM all those years ago...
MikeSportsFan 7 months ago
PAcquiao is a MUCH different fighter from his featherweight days. Even the BIGGEST hater can acknowlege that, but like I said before, this is all meh... none of it matters cause it is the same story from three years ago. I love Pacquiao and hate and appreciate Floyd the same way I did Jordan but wanting these two to fight is frustrating and it would have made more money... 2 years ago, don't you think? It will still make a CRAZY amount of money but.. the buzz is more annoying that anythign now.
MikeSportsFan 7 months ago
Anyways, great videos man, keep em up and how about some videos on the super six, think Bute is as good as the hype? Why wasn't he in the tournament? Doesn't make sense
MikeSportsFan 7 months ago
@MikeSportsFan Im a fan of Bute. He did get that one gift decision but i think he's the real deal because at least he came back and redeemed himself in the rematch. From the very begining I thought he should be in the tournament, I don't know why he wasn't. But he'll fight the winner of the super six and i'm thinkin it might be Ward who i wasn't a big fan of before the tourney but he grew on me, same with Froch, i coundn't stand him before the tourney now i'm a fan of both finalist.
OutsideTheRopes 7 months ago
Nice vid bro!!!!
22bbhoney 7 months ago
Hell of a vid! Great work!
bartlemi5 7 months ago
nvm that pusha t go hard
dontizzle805 7 months ago
damn that intro song is firee ropes sheesh man who is that
dontizzle805 7 months ago