War Neuroses: Netley Hospital (1917), pt. 5 of 5

[MegaProjectpat]

I hope there soul found peace.......

[SuperGetitgotitgood]

Looks like they were in the fledgling stages of occupational and physical therapy treatments.. perhaps quite a few of these half day miracle cures were simply calming the man down and doing some repetitions to get him walking normal again. some of the long term treatments were probably curing brain injury from concussion. Im a stroke survivor and i see the same gait, balance and movement traits in stroke victims. There men must have suffered brain bleeds that interupted motor skills .

[WJHHunterston]

My great uncle was there and was put in the hospital for rheumatic fever and fibromialga, got better in 1 month and sent to fight again. (nothing neuro/psychological happened. An artillery gunner. You can get other problems too - unrelated to bullets/shrapnel.) He came home, worked, married, had 2 kids and lived healthy into his 90's...a rare blessed outcome for WW1 Vets of Canada.

[WJHHunterston]

Were they made deaf too? (huge shells shatter ear drums too)

[crusaderforever]

GREAT VIDEOS.

HEARTBREAKING, BUT SEEING THAT THEY COULD COME BACK FROM IT, MAKES ME ELATED.

HEROES, ALL OF THEM.

[assholeyeng]

a fake

[CanadiaMiliatry15]

Dude. No one cares about the Civil war. The commonwealth is strong and we have no need to fight are selves.

[ETECHJOEs]

your not going to shock treat and put them on camera withing 15 min people THINK IT THROUGH. Probably some sort of chemical treatment who know IF its real its pretty amazing

[ETECHJOEs]

your not going to shock treat and put them on camera withing 15 min people THINK IT THROUGH

[J99Grimbold]

Did i understood that right, the soldiers up from 4:22 are "training" a battle there to see if they can handle such situations again?

Greetings..

[CymroGoch]

@J99Grimbold No, I think they were just making a movie for 'fun'.

[justanotherjunkaddy]

Does make me wonder if these are the exceptional cases and not the typical ones. I have no doubt that these men fought in the war and were treated for shell shock. But curing a man of such severe impairments in just one hour, unless they just electric-shocked the daylights out of them, seems pretty incredible.

[elvee88]

@justanotherjunkaddy Seems pretty impossible to me. I think these "cured" examples are faked, by the army doctors or the soldiers themselves.the army had a big interest in denying the seriousness of it. Also, shellshocked men who werent cured and not believed that their condition was real, were excuted. It opens a lot of possebilities. For instance, troops acting like this just to get away from the frontline for a couple hours/days.

[121Bollox]

@elvee88 - I didn't see ONE SINGLE MAN beat his demons. I seen EVERY SINGLE MAN confront his fears! If 'pretending' that your hands will never shake again to convince the 'psycho-therapists' of that modern shithole of its time, & still today, for one sec they no longer need to be wired up to some piss pathetic electrodes & the 'bullshit falacy of psychiatry' to leave them the fuck alone, face their terror of that moment of helplessness & play to the placebo of hypnosis, they won!

SHIT COMMENT!

[TheHolyMolyPoly]

@elvee88 I think you are absolutely right, serious trauma makes the hippocampus shrink and there's no way to cure that.

[MrElectricstorm]

Thank you so much for posting all of your old vintage vids..

[owl1970]

FAKE

[SpliNterCellFan697]

@owl1970 fake? none of this is fake these are real men that fought for your lazy ass and you are saying this is fake well let us see you fight in a war and get shell shocked yourself!!!!!

[owl1970]

@SpliNterCellFan697 You uneducated fool... Shell shock could not be cured in a day like this hospital claimed. These films were produced to get paying patients to come to the hospital. If you knew what the hell you're talking about you'd know that the British government made them stop these films from being made in July of 1918. Go back to your video games you idiot.

[SpliNterCellFan697]

@owl1970 *you

[SpliNterCellFan697]

@owl1970 Oh oh really you wanna talk about history then lets talk about it here i got one for you this one is about a war i might run out of comment characters so here we go this is george arm strong custer he was born December 5th 1839. He was a commander which was also known as the american civil war and the indian wars. In early 1876 thousands of native americans escaped from the reservations and military officials were ordered to push them back. On june 25 1876 custer and his troops engaged.

[SpliNterCellFan697]

@owl1970 continuing from the word (engaged) in battle with the Lakota and northern Cheyenne tribes near the big little horn river of Montanna. Custer's forces was defeated and custer was killed and til this day of history was known as Custer's last stand. So when you are on the internet becareful who you call people and i'm not uneducated. ; )

[HaldorMaximius]

2:55...The Tao Te Ching says that nature can cure any illness, be it physical or mental...War that is so extremely different than Lao Tzu's time, nearly 2,500 years later, the effects of war was treated in the same way

[ThatNeilDude]

@HaldorMaximius LAO TZU LIVED IN A HUT AND ATE STRAW!!!!!

[HaldorMaximius]

@ThatNeilDude For an ignorant person that may be true...and you can't eat straw and he lived in a normal style home, not a hut...he lived in 600 BC, not 10,000 BC

[bonesmccoy1]

I have PTSD there are still things i avoid.....and i didn't face the hell they did in WW1.....they knew so little about it back then. These men lived through..well words fail to describe it.....They are my heroes....

[Snedger]

WW1 was really the last artillery war and no conflicts before or since saw the volume of shelling that went on on the Western Front. It was absolutely continuous and soldiers in forward trench systems lived in abject fear of being on the end of a randomly fired shell. That fear itself caused enormous strain on the men and some simply broke under the weight of it. Those not killed or injured by shrapnel often suffered damage to the nervous system from the blast, as shown in the films.

[C3P0meetsData]

How come the shell shock was this severe with WWI vets, but you really never hear about it being this bad from other wars?

[TheRalphus666]

@C3P0meetsData Because the amount of artillery they faced,and the long time spent in the trenches.And the lenght of timr they were in the trench's gettingshelled all the time

[damurip]

@C3P0meetsData During WW1 thats when they first came out with tanks planes and gas also Artillery no one ever seen that kind of war before

[Sw33tSm0k3]

@C3P0meetsData Shell shock has always exited. It's just that World War I compared to World War II was a lot more gruesome.

body's getting blown apart, watching lifeless bodies lying everywhere, body organs spread across, sometimes of their own friends. Intense and unbearable fever and illnesses, constant fear of getting killed, constant worries in general and no peace of mind, EVER.

That my friend, is sure to bring shell shock aka War Neurosis.

god bless all these people, and may they RIP.

[charliebarosio]

All patched up like fuckin new and on the first zombie boat back to the mud fest in France. Next please! War is peace and the only thing the Britlander's could do before the yanks stole their empire.

[randomlybro]

If what they saw and heard affected them physically this much, just think how awful their mind must be :(

[Snedger]

I can't help thinking the re-education aspect of the cure consisted of being told you were going to be court-martialled if you didn't cut it out. But who would blame any of these men for trying to avoid being sent back to the hell of the Western Front? Netley Hospital was a gigantic building, put after the Crimean War and outdated almost before it was finished. It closed in the 50s but the psychiatric wing remained till the 70s. RD Laing was a doctor there.

[mashamorgan]

As a Psychologist I couldnt see me treating PTSD in 15 mins. These guys must have been miracle workers or bullshitters. Obviously the latter !

[lfernan85]

really sad this video. its incredible the way these men suffered for what today we know as "post traumatic stress disorder", and how the medics were developing the rehab techniques with these poor men completely devastated by war. In these images we only see the physical symptoms, I wonder what about the psychological suffering. Anyway, great rehab that they made them work with domestic animals in a farm, but that film they acted at the end, kinda cruel...

[Shaxprlover]

i actually can see how the acting might have a psychological benefit, as long as they did it when they were sufficiently ready. Sometimes grappling a second time with the issues that had such a traumatic effect on the mind in the first place can help you to get beyond it.

[thatjazzZ]

They didn't know in 1917 that the war was to end a year later; they wanted to cure the soldiers so they could be able to go back to the battlefield. That's certainly the purpose of making this film. History made those men stay at home, but if the war had laster several more years, they would have been sent back in the trenches.

[youaredissolved]

The last part is rather amazing. I wonder if the medics thought that this kind of "re-enactment" had a psychological benefit?