Once again they miss the boat and fail to implement a tabbed environment. Yahoo and even hotmail are so far ahead of the curve on this. Why make it hard for users to have multiple emails, compose windows, contacts etc open at once?
@evil999 Been with them for well over a decade, no problems. 1 or 2 bits of spam a day. I had a Gmail account for a month, couldn't find the real mail amongst the spam, Yahoo was even worse.
Audio slightly out of sync, but the video still got my "Like". Switching to the new theme right now. (Instructions in the video description by the way!)
DAMASCUS SYRIA–OLDEST CITY,NEVER BEEN DESTROYED(ISAIAH 17:1)ISRAEL DIVIDED(JOEL 4:1-4)JESUS SAID,HIS 2ND COMING,IF U SEE DMASCUS DSTROYED & SRAEL DVIDED.IF U THINK QUAKES R COMMON THN BELIEVE THESE 2 PROPHECIES,THESE R IN THE NEWS NOW.JOHN 12:25-26 ANYONE WHO LOVES THEIR LIFE WILL LOSE IT,WHLE ANYONE WHO HATES THEIR LIFE N THIS WORLD WILL KEEP IT FOR ETRNAL LIFE.26 WHOEVER SERVS ME MUST FOLLOW ME& WHRE I AM,MY SERVANT ALSO WILL BE.MY FATHER WILL HONOR THE ONE WHO SERVES ME.HELL IS REAL.REPENT!
Yes, they still ask for your phone number to verify when you're trying to create a gmail account. go try it right now and see what happens after you fill out your contact info.
@spa17ez Gmail doesn't require your cellphone number to make/use an account. It's there as a feature for extra security to protect your mail against hackers.
@ZeRo2545 well i did make 1 years ago but when i tried to create account again last week it requires cellphone number and theyll give the activation code there. :(
This guy is pathetic. Ok man you are working for google. But trying to present new features of a google's product before google'σ owner,then you are an idiot, selfish and full complex man.
You are there to develop or design or manage, not to present google products without google's aggrement. Programmers ηere in greece call it "Developer's ethic".
If you want to become famous, leave google, start your company and be create your products(if you are as charismatic as needed to do so).
It sucks that you can't sort email by who its from, the subject, whether it has an attachment or not etc. Really Google. How can you NOT have that? I was hoping they would have it fixed this time around but it doesn't look so.
Honestly, it's about time. The old interface was horrendous! I avoided using my Gmail account as much as I could because I hated the interface so much. It was not intuitive at all and way too text heavy. Looking forward to seeing what this one looks and feels like.
@kosstheory Yes, on an email by email basis, messing up the "conversation" organization structure that's one of the better features of gmail. I believe Outlook let you remove only the attachment that but I haven't got it installed to check. But with google, I don't expect them to only be the same as other clients - I expect them to be smarter and to think out the problems in their design.
If someone asked you to argue in favor of gmail, two of the things you'd probably bring up are 1) hard to run out of space so you can send lots of attachments and 2) groups of emails arranged by conversations. But this design flaw causes one to defeat the other.
@JanyPL blocking ads is worse than piracy, because not only are you getting thier content for free, but you are also directly costing them money in bandwidth
@jl45000019 He's one of the gmail designers in charge of the updates and the changes that he's showing. I'm sure it is a point of pride for him to be able to show off his work.
@xelfos So, now they're imitating Apple, because they're doing what anyone would do to present something of this sort. Funny, I thought I was watching a Microsoft Vid or a Melodyne Vid, or a -FILL IN THE BLANK- Vid. O_o
you know, if google owns youtube and removes pretty much anything they deem unnecessary or copyright, the fact that everyone knows about this and it hasn't been taken down is suspicious. just saying.
@jbdranger They only take down videos when a DMCA complaint has been filed. So, if this is something they plan on releasing soon and they recognize that people have probably copied this video several times by now, they realize that submitting a DMCA complaint over a video that doesn't generate profit is a bit overkill. The leak is out there. There's no putting the genie back into the bottle.
Yeah I agree, but apparently there are alot of drunk, stoned or otherwise mentally incapacitated retards and losers on Youtube, so I guess once a while someone has a psychotic session and hears voices in their head. Based on that they might display irrational behaviour like randomly disliking videos or leaving incoherent or otherwise ridiculous comments.
Alot of people on this planet are bored because they have no talent or ability. Youtube thrives on nolife losers, im afraid.
Google's response to the video: “Oops, you weren’t supposed to see that,” a Google spokeswoman said Thursday. “Stay tuned, we’ll be sharing more info on Gmail’s new look soon.”
@crlsndrsjmnz Or in other words.. If we release normally no one would care but if we "leak" it people will think they are getting inside info when it's just more press
this looks like it is going to be by far the best update ever to gmail, i'm especially fond of the ability to create new filters from the search box :). the old way (going through settings) is a pain everytime.
@fcukicnatsplel You do not need to go settings to make a new filter. Just click "Create filter" on right side of the search box and you can create filter, check it and then save it.
Now this new update will allow you to make a search and then click wanted options in dropdown list. While the current is you click filter, type your criteria, click next and click wanted options.
simple, neat, tidy and clean, that's what I want, and thanks google always provide what I want with their products, that's include others like G+, docs, cal, reader, very nice, 1 ID for everything, makes my life easier
@JuliesAdventure yeah i'm still using hotmail >< i've been wanting to switch but i've been using hotmail for SOOO LOOONG i dunno how much work it is to completely switch over
@charlie5231990 GMail makes is EASY to switch. Until 3 months ago, I was still using the AOL account I had for 15 years. I, too, was worried about making the change, but mail forwarding (included for free) made it a no-brainer. Now I'm completely free of AOL and am LOVING my gmail account. Happy converting!!
Niedostępny w Polsce, co za rasizm na tym świecie
Przemek05119 4 months ago
when are going to improve contacts with Hi Res imagery?
ypcyc 4 months ago
Once again they miss the boat and fail to implement a tabbed environment. Yahoo and even hotmail are so far ahead of the curve on this. Why make it hard for users to have multiple emails, compose windows, contacts etc open at once?
MedicNYC 4 months ago
I want to film the tyrant Muammar Gaddafi
nasr20101000 4 months ago
More looks like GoogleConversations than GoogleMail.
ordiantakeover 4 months ago
thumbs up if u came hear because u seen Graham video
Omgdosnerds 4 months ago
Is good
Mega19Clement 4 months ago
ORRRH! TRY THIS! Like my comment while your holding alt + ctrl NIIIICE
mads904b 4 months ago 8
@mads904b
Works with disliking too!!
Miny000000 4 months ago
Cool features! :)
galaxykadiyala 4 months ago
Cool features! :)
galaxykadiyala 4 months ago
But when is it coming?
JuanitoFTS 4 months ago 3
BRMC SOLD OUT ?!?!?!
NEVER THOUGHT I'D SEE THE DAY ....
DeathInDublin 4 months ago
I like it...
NeoAcheron 4 months ago
Looks nice.
feybart 4 months ago
What is the name of the guy speaking?
barni98 4 months ago
@barni98 Umm Pay Attention.... His name is Jason. 0:02
GuildForumsNet 4 months ago
@GuildForumsNet i heard it. his surname pls
barni98 4 months ago
can't stand being patronized by the fuckin' baby music.
anomalousclouds 4 months ago
Anyone else noticed that he was using mac?
One might think that two companies suing eachothers buttholes of would not want to use eachothers products whilst advertising their own.
Zatyriasis 4 months ago
awesome that would be amazing.
coolmenachem10 4 months ago
Dude. Clearasil.
MyNameIsBucket 4 months ago
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med1cvg 4 months ago 22
yes
SuperSORAW 4 months ago
when is it comeing out
Cooldude1304 4 months ago
I use hotmail - I don't care about the changes, but the accidental leak makes me worry about Google's general competence.
TheLangfords 4 months ago
@TheLangfords The official youtube channel run by google was hacked yesterday as well.
Vocizo 4 months ago
@TheLangfords lol, from a hotmail user, worrying about gmails competence. Oh the irony....
evil999 4 months ago
@evil999 Been with them for well over a decade, no problems. 1 or 2 bits of spam a day. I had a Gmail account for a month, couldn't find the real mail amongst the spam, Yahoo was even worse.
TheLangfords 4 months ago
@TheLangfords That's odd. I've been with Gmail for years and the spam gets perfectly trashed all the time. Never had any problems with it.
LordKilmir 4 months ago 2
how come i dont have it >:(
leGianflavio 4 months ago
sorry but....i dont care
Bunnytheclownslayer 4 months ago
good work
ElbYounes 4 months ago
Reading pane?
grillcarrot 4 months ago
mehh
TheKfnff 4 months ago
( ;∀;)イイハナシダナー
hatameiwakunaouji 4 months ago
I love it! When does it come out?
DoubleBV 4 months ago
hmmm... I think I like the old design better.
mirta000 4 months ago
Follow me on twitter @crlsndrsjmnz
crlsndrsjmnz 4 months ago
Okay
U53l2N4m3 4 months ago 14
When does it come out??
discomonkey37 4 months ago
Audio slightly out of sync, but the video still got my "Like". Switching to the new theme right now. (Instructions in the video description by the way!)
x3ICEx 4 months ago
所有的google产品都要跟GOOGLE+进行整合
justwokao 4 months ago
@justwokao yeah, good point...
xTin0x 4 months ago
Instead of raspberrytickleberry, you should just be dingleberry. gmail is the best free mail app available.
roninmoto1 4 months ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
gmail sucks
raspberrytickleberry 4 months ago
@raspberrytickleberry I use yahoo :P
TheWorldofnoob 4 months ago
how do I get this? :L
TheLozzzyyy 4 months ago
@TheLozzzyyy The new interface isn't out yet. The video was apparently released by accident.
CCWInstructor505 4 months ago
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Riteshrocksss 4 months ago
how do i get this design?
lesckh 4 months ago
@lesckh The new interface isn't out yet. The video was apparently released by accident.
CCWInstructor505 4 months ago
What's the song?
EggOmelette 4 months ago
I like I like!
brettles18 4 months ago
WHEN???
tamwaiman1981 4 months ago
Stop trying to be APPLE google.
all you do is make things more complicate.
PS Google+ is fucking shit
101bennyc 4 months ago
@101bennyc
Oh boy retard alert
UnicyclistRemi 4 months ago
Gmail is better than Yahoo! and Windows Live by a long shot.
TheUltraTechOne 4 months ago
Eu @jvictorsantos sempre fui um testador do Google Labs, mas agora o Gmail vai ter mudanças estruturais.
quartaetapa 4 months ago
it's amazing go ahead Gmail Team
timeontime 4 months ago
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ENTERRAPTURE20 4 months ago
hell yeah GOOGLE!!
LETS FUCK APPLE TOGETHER WITH HTC!!!!
Gabrieldemak 4 months ago
Aww, it looks so cute!<3
Also, Phil Sharp<3 so hot!
Shinryu7x 4 months ago
when???????
nofumble62 4 months ago
Added subtitles in english and spanish
crlsndrsjmnz 4 months ago 3
Dobar je ;)
igorbabicja 4 months ago
google whoisgoddotorg
qseanx 4 months ago
This is really cool and I love this dudes voice.
nice6295 4 months ago
does anyone know when this update is going to be released?
laurakrystel 4 months ago
Can you synch your Picasa account to take pictures for profiles?
clivedgorman 4 months ago
Yes, they still ask for your phone number to verify when you're trying to create a gmail account. go try it right now and see what happens after you fill out your contact info.
vekka220 4 months ago
New interface looks great - well done interactions. Can't wait till it's released.
For those worrying about switching... don't. It's easy to get all your old email.
videophillymac 4 months ago
尼玛 gmail的注册真让人蛋疼 和中国注册方式差太多了 中国的注册都开始走几步流了 gmail却很麻烦
luheng431 4 months ago
@JuliesAdventure gmail is asking for cellphone number thats why
spa17ez 4 months ago
@spa17ez Gmail doesn't require your cellphone number to make/use an account. It's there as a feature for extra security to protect your mail against hackers.
ZeRo2545 4 months ago
@ZeRo2545 well i did make 1 years ago but when i tried to create account again last week it requires cellphone number and theyll give the activation code there. :(
spa17ez 4 months ago
@DAJ522 It's been out for a while now
TheLegendizCody 4 months ago
Next thing you know, there's going ot be a GTube.
Eldest9292 4 months ago
@Eldest9292 youtube already owned by google
charlie5231990 4 months ago
@charlie5231990 ik.........
Eldest9292 4 months ago
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wesley28759 4 months ago
my college has had this style for years lol your just now getting this too funny
uome3 4 months ago
You guys can get the theme right now if you want. Just go to gmail -> settings -> themes and select "preview" or "preview dense"
KlassiK407 4 months ago
Google's really starting to prove itself...
... BUT I STILL DON'T LIKE THIS FUCKING YOUTUBE PLAYLIST! :|
lol
Ricinator0 4 months ago
wheennnn???
VIM731 4 months ago
That looks so awful..
idkai 4 months ago
This guy is pathetic. Ok man you are working for google. But trying to present new features of a google's product before google'σ owner,then you are an idiot, selfish and full complex man.
You are there to develop or design or manage, not to present google products without google's aggrement. Programmers ηere in greece call it "Developer's ethic".
If you want to become famous, leave google, start your company and be create your products(if you are as charismatic as needed to do so).
ppc3024 4 months ago
It sucks that you can't sort email by who its from, the subject, whether it has an attachment or not etc. Really Google. How can you NOT have that? I was hoping they would have it fixed this time around but it doesn't look so.
nano404 4 months ago
@nano404 "has:attachment" in the search box.
kosstheory 4 months ago
@kosstheory Thanks for the tip. Still want alphabetical sorting for From and Subject fields though. Especially From.
nano404 4 months ago
....conversations.... grrrreat.... doesn't address POP or IMAP mail though.
Maybe I don't want 'conversations' controlled by an all knowing, all ASSUMING control system.
Maybe I want to pick and choose what belongs in a conversation?
Honestly, if I try to search my gmail I'll just end up shaking, and crying in a fetal position.
It's hell.
tantoedge 4 months ago
Honestly, it's about time. The old interface was horrendous! I avoided using my Gmail account as much as I could because I hated the interface so much. It was not intuitive at all and way too text heavy. Looking forward to seeing what this one looks and feels like.
alphie20 4 months ago
really excited :)
iAlessandroOriginal 4 months ago
Eagerly awaiting!
heraldol 4 months ago
Cosmetics is nice, but the real improvement that's needed is the ability to delete just an attachment without deleting the email it's attached to.
timbacontent 4 months ago
@timbacontent What email client does this? Couldn't you just forward the email to yourself, and remove the attachment?
kosstheory 4 months ago
@kosstheory Yes, on an email by email basis, messing up the "conversation" organization structure that's one of the better features of gmail. I believe Outlook let you remove only the attachment that but I haven't got it installed to check. But with google, I don't expect them to only be the same as other clients - I expect them to be smarter and to think out the problems in their design.
timbacontent 4 months ago
If someone asked you to argue in favor of gmail, two of the things you'd probably bring up are 1) hard to run out of space so you can send lots of attachments and 2) groups of emails arranged by conversations. But this design flaw causes one to defeat the other.
timbacontent 4 months ago
They should remove ads, there is no sense for them when adblock exists.
JanyPL 4 months ago
@JanyPL blocking ads is worse than piracy, because not only are you getting thier content for free, but you are also directly costing them money in bandwidth
FireStorm821 4 months ago
@FireStorm821
Its not my problem, same you can say that using gmail by thunderbird is "worse than piracy".
JanyPL 4 months ago
nice :)
RusiesKroket 4 months ago
Gmail is a great service. UI is simply amazing. Nice to see Google improving it. What I don't understand is using those ugly themes.
miknos2 4 months ago 46
@miknos2 Themes are optional, you don't have to use them if you don't want to o:
ThePrincessjinifer 4 months ago
I've had this gmail overhaul running as a theme for about 6 months already. How is this news?
wfincher 4 months ago
Any particular reason they used the ugliest guy they could find for this video. Hideous ugly bearded buffoon.
jl45000019 4 months ago
@jl45000019 He's one of the gmail designers in charge of the updates and the changes that he's showing. I'm sure it is a point of pride for him to be able to show off his work.
jaergroth 4 months ago
@jl45000019 He may not be the shiniest pen on the desk, but I see no buffoonery.
kosstheory 4 months ago
Am i the only that feels like im watching an Apple vid?
xelfos 4 months ago 101
@xelfos Apple video geeks wear make up. Have you ever seen a spotty Apple ad person?
utubesqueeze 4 months ago
@xelfos So, now they're imitating Apple, because they're doing what anyone would do to present something of this sort. Funny, I thought I was watching a Microsoft Vid or a Melodyne Vid, or a -FILL IN THE BLANK- Vid. O_o
kosstheory 4 months ago
@xelfos why? does this guy have a lump on his pancreas too?
EmperorEva0001 4 months ago
@xelfos Yay, it feels like an Apple video =)
antoniotajuelo 4 months ago
wow maybe I'll switch to gmail when it's updated, looks good.
kevinsmak 4 months ago
Похоже очень многое было подсмотрено у Yandex почты. Хотя по видео видно что Гугл пошёл значительно дальше! Очень хочется самому уже полапать!
DeaDrash 4 months ago
wow !
when it is updating ??
MrSensation92 4 months ago
you know, if google owns youtube and removes pretty much anything they deem unnecessary or copyright, the fact that everyone knows about this and it hasn't been taken down is suspicious. just saying.
jbdranger 4 months ago
@jbdranger They only take down videos when a DMCA complaint has been filed. So, if this is something they plan on releasing soon and they recognize that people have probably copied this video several times by now, they realize that submitting a DMCA complaint over a video that doesn't generate profit is a bit overkill. The leak is out there. There's no putting the genie back into the bottle.
BOBXLII 4 months ago
Are they using safari?
AndroidFi 4 months ago
@AndroidFi They are using Chrome on a Mac.
BOBXLII 4 months ago
Like if Mashable brought you here!
siddharthbandhu1 4 months ago
Me Gusta.
imdscottbrewer 4 months ago
Rosa Golijan brought me here! :)
MrJPVERCETTI 4 months ago
Wooooooooooow! :D
majnemes 4 months ago
great, looks beautiful
sinscan 4 months ago
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seba2122 4 months ago
yes!
haigsakouyan 4 months ago
Faaaaaaaaaaaarrr too much wasted space sprinkled around in that design. It's as ugly now as it was when they first added it to the themes menu.
cmyanmar13 4 months ago
Nice, but what about searching for partial words? Still not done yet?
nomidubidabi 4 months ago
I just cant understand, what the hack can someone not like on a video like this? It is like U don't like the manual of your fridge...
szerencsei 4 months ago
@szerencsei
Yeah I agree, but apparently there are alot of drunk, stoned or otherwise mentally incapacitated retards and losers on Youtube, so I guess once a while someone has a psychotic session and hears voices in their head. Based on that they might display irrational behaviour like randomly disliking videos or leaving incoherent or otherwise ridiculous comments.
Alot of people on this planet are bored because they have no talent or ability. Youtube thrives on nolife losers, im afraid.
mistervanderveer 4 months ago
I'm not convinced that I like Google's new look for Calendar, Docs and Gmail.
TheBlooglet 4 months ago
I like the new features, but hate the new look
rsmolkin 4 months ago
Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!))
Ad pleazeeee automatic tag clouds by subjects on the mail and letters! Pleazeeee))
ValWell0trasher 4 months ago
Google going Metro style? :)
TerCassar 4 months ago
Ha ez ilyen lesz, akkor letörlöm az Operát és végleg áttérek a gmailre.
nanawild 4 months ago
Nice. I like the new desing on google products...
sale3sale 4 months ago
Any way of keeping the old design?
adachezero 4 months ago
Спасибо команде Gmail за их качественную работу!
MrGold166 4 months ago
I all ready have this...
Allankj 4 months ago
Google is a good cop, Microsoft is a bad cop
ObiOlg 4 months ago
that guy was high as dave chapelle
xoomhax 4 months ago
UM NO
TheMountianCity 4 months ago
Czy wszyscy programiści-prezenterzy Google muszą być zarośnięci?? Czyżby chłit marketingowy - na przyjaznego Miśka? :)
bysiol 4 months ago
nice
kingxsf 4 months ago
Certainly a nicer & cleaner look but, This dude should redesign himself and shave his arms & hands of all that Gorilla Hair for a cleaner look. LOL
jurmongler 4 months ago
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jurmongler 4 months ago
Seriously, I love Google.
d3vism 4 months ago
Google rocks!
LinkinparkFIN 4 months ago
Google's response to the video: “Oops, you weren’t supposed to see that,” a Google spokeswoman said Thursday. “Stay tuned, we’ll be sharing more info on Gmail’s new look soon.”
crlsndrsjmnz 4 months ago 43
@crlsndrsjmnz Or in other words.. If we release normally no one would care but if we "leak" it people will think they are getting inside info when it's just more press
4urge 4 months ago
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This will be awesome
Atomcitypasi 4 months ago
I like this theme, its similar to my favourite ubuntu theme whats a great thing it doesn't pain my eyes.
tszebeni 4 months ago
this looks like it is going to be by far the best update ever to gmail, i'm especially fond of the ability to create new filters from the search box :). the old way (going through settings) is a pain everytime.
fcukicnatsplel 4 months ago
@fcukicnatsplel You do not need to go settings to make a new filter. Just click "Create filter" on right side of the search box and you can create filter, check it and then save it.
Now this new update will allow you to make a search and then click wanted options in dropdown list. While the current is you click filter, type your criteria, click next and click wanted options.
TheFri13 4 months ago
is there Arrange by size column? I want to know how big attachments I have in what emails
amehu 4 months ago
Google probably will create an avalanche of changes design postal services
SNoRK095 4 months ago 3
simple, neat, tidy and clean, that's what I want, and thanks google always provide what I want with their products, that's include others like G+, docs, cal, reader, very nice, 1 ID for everything, makes my life easier
limkurnia 4 months ago
People these days are more worried about big brother, rather than the feel and look. Email is just email
prx27 4 months ago
when its gonna be active ??
catzilla82 4 months ago
I can't believe people are still using hotmail & yahoo. It's unbelievable.
JuliesAdventure 4 months ago 31
@JuliesAdventure i still do.. but i use gmail to fetch it now =P
plopthepspking 4 months ago
@JuliesAdventure yeah i'm still using hotmail >< i've been wanting to switch but i've been using hotmail for SOOO LOOONG i dunno how much work it is to completely switch over
charlie5231990 4 months ago
@charlie5231990 GMail makes is EASY to switch. Until 3 months ago, I was still using the AOL account I had for 15 years. I, too, was worried about making the change, but mail forwarding (included for free) made it a no-brainer. Now I'm completely free of AOL and am LOVING my gmail account. Happy converting!!
jmholtzapple 4 months ago
@jmholtzapple shit i gotta look into that mail forwarding thing then, does it work well? ;o
charlie5231990 4 months ago
I love everything you do so bring it on.
barecomb 4 months ago
sweet
rimzoni 4 months ago
Great new features - good show, Google
alexjessey 4 months ago
I wanna Google T-shirt!!
GATAKAWAKACHICO 4 months ago 5
If you're going to leak, this is the way to do it! gs
ginasmithify 4 months ago
i like it
NguyenHa96 4 months ago
Fantastic changes, well done.
Gerrrry 4 months ago
awsome.. i was just looking for this kind of search box for mails.. and finally it is here.... :)
mounish2485 4 months ago 2
Microsoft Metro ftw
winuacc 4 months ago