oscar peterson - ray brown - niels henning orsted pedersen

[Defenderofeyre]

There are two kinds of great bass players... Black people, and Danish people...

[Hitrate]

Music is not a competition. Love the ending melody at 4.45

[krisp75]

And another thing: to say that NHOP couldn't swing is SO wrong - he practically grew up in a jazz club. Check out the video here on YT where he's playing with the great Bud Powell - at the age of 16! (Anthropology - v=TaSDinL6pC8)

[krisp75]

Is it so hard to fathom that you can play jazz if you aren't black? I think that If NHOP were black there wouldn't be any arguing. It's called racism. NHOP makes Ray sound like a sloppy old man.

[JEMPAC102]

manfredo fest phillip fest la rue, nickelsenbilly pilluchere the great billy p

[zorbazig]

I was at this concert and remember drinking a beer and chatting with NHOP just after the concert at the Festival's musicians' bar... Great moment ! The giants were on the earth in those days... ;-)

[hizkiakia71]

GREAT! so amazing...

[SlikkTim]

I know, to each is own, but on this clip, to me it's like: "how to play double bass" then "how NOT to play double bass" haha. Gotta listen back to that Night Train cd... it's incredible how when NHOP plays, it just ain't COOKIN. Dude is all about tryna outplay Ray Brown, and lookin at his face you know he ain't confortable AT ALL at the end of his solo. My .02...

[Bjorlin1]

@SlikkTim NHOP sure know how to play fast, but i prefer listening to ray anyday than NHOP, both are incredible but ray REALLY know how to swing :D

[flipadiddle]

@SlikkTim I fully agree with you that ray swings much harder than NHOP, however, i don't think it's at all accurate to describe any video of NHOP playing as "how not to play double bass". as everyone knows, NHOP was a true virtuoso on his instrument, and fantastic musician, as is evidenced by all the recordings and gigs he did with many of the worlds greatest jazz musicians. Also, let's be honest, there are very few bass players ever who would be able to stand next to ray's beat!

[SlikkTim]

@flipadiddle You're defo right, but I always like to go a lil overboard with my points ahah

[cobyourself]

what is the name of this song

[MrPianoguitar]

@cobyourself "you look good to me "

[sweetnoots]

cant find the cd with tenderly in full, can anyone tell me which cd it was recorded on and where?

[Wcarrigan2]

beautiful work by all three. does anyone know what tune they are playing?

[UncleInsano]

@Wcarrigan2 its a tune written by Oscar Peterson called "You Look Good to Me"

[tpierrepont]

@Wcarrigan2 Probably found out already, but it's called "You look good to me", you can find another good version in the "Oscar in Paris" live album

[glevito]

To all of you who compare who sounds better, or whose solo is cleaner, or who plays less ghosted notes-who cares??? These guys have more talent in their pinky finger than all of you

[jazzuffe]

NHØP, What did we do too deserve him?

[basscase78]

NHOP looks almost asleep, he is so relaxed when he plays. I think he is the only one not sweating up there. All of em, the greatest ever!

[TheSittingArchitect]

@basscase78 He almost looks like he had some herbal help :p

[MrCrac1]

Notes that mount directly into the brain without a filter. Fantastic fun. Simply excellent. Thank you very much.

[TheMuzikanten]

To my mind NieHop played better here, richer behind Oscar, and astounding on his solo - just clearer than Ray, on whom some notes just get lost.

Charles

[redhouse7]

@TheMuzikanten

I disagree, Ray plays a lot of ghosted notes, with the intenet not for them to get lost, but for some to stick out more, compared to NHOP who plays all notes in his solo around the same volume level. It is my opinion that Ray plays with a little better time then NHOP in his solo and bass line. Also keep in mind Ray comes from the Be-bop period of playing much more with ghosted notes and a different style of phrasing, NHOP is 30 years younger and plays a little more melodically

[doddsalfa]

@TheMuzikanten Not true, few bass players use more ghosted notes than nhop.Nobody playes clearer than Ray Brown,open your ears and listen.

[MrPianoguitar]

niels omg

[HeraVallirana]

Oscar and Niels, the perfect pair. Incredible rithm.

[thmsjordan]

Man, it doesn't get any better than this !!

[Larryamg]

NHOP gave his usual best. This is the defining moment of a new generation of bass players coming aboard. Listen to the "snap" that Niels generates. No drummer needed. He played into Oscar's solo with deepening harmonics. What swinging!

In later years, he stayed with Oscar even though Mr. Peterson couldn't use his left hand due to his stroke. What class NHOP and Martin Drew showed in continuing to perform and tour with Oscar.

[00s00m]

I think all three were absolutely at the top of their games here.

[janeh7]

OMG - heaven

[overlordspencerman]

As to badassness- clearly these gentlemen are not fucking around. However, what if mr PC or Ron Carter had been here?

[andifyouhadtwocoats]

Oskar is pure male sex, only topped by the gorddeous bass ballerino

A topp example why jazz always was and stil is the premier homosexuel art form

And a treat for all gay lisseners

Warm greetings

Rab Hines

[jaimepaullamb]

@andifyouhadtwocoats i see your comments everywhere, rab. and i, for one, think you are hilarious. i mean, it is low-brow/neanderthal/homophobi­c-style humour, but it never stops being funny. good work!

[andifyouhadtwocoats]

@jaimepaullamb thanks you. You are a premmier candidate for my BIG Burbuzela!

[robobass25]

he had a good life though :) he was 85 i think when he died .. thats a good long life :)

[00s00m]

Great sound!

[albertogambirasio]

the best pianist!

[albertogambirasio]

MELHOR PIANISTA QUE JÁEXEISTIU.

[nuke97]

Oscar Peterson is awesome ...this whole video is awesome!!!!OuO

[slideharp1]

@KennewickMan..Pedersen is a Very melodic Bass player, when I 1st saw him play (with Oscar peterson in the early 70's), That was what I noticed about his playing - along with his fluidity/speed/invention. As an electric bassist who went on to Upright, I can tell you that his bass sounds Nothing like an electric. As far as the action on his bass - Ray can have his action as low or high as he wants. These guys don't play on old wooden boxes. They use the Best.

[tbcass]

@slideharp1 Of course both Brown and Pederson were great bass players and I wouldn't pick one over the other. The thing that made Niles somewhat unique is not speed, others such as Christian McBride are as fast, but his heavily syncopated Funky style, while Ray employed a more straight ahead traditional style. I am an electric bassist but went from fretted to fretless. I love the sound of the upright but the size and expense of a good upright is prohibitive for my needs.

[slideharp1]

@tbcass testing , one two

[slideharp1]

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[slideharp1]

@tbcass sent reply direct to your channel

[GrilloNoGRAZIE]

Grandi e basta!

[Bbeckstrom]

uhhhhhh 2:42. oscar peterson clearly could be improvising that stuff if he was in a coma...

[msg2clash]

have listened to this many many time - and although NHOP has and effortless way of playing and plays beautifully, there is much mote than notes with Rays playing - and it;s his gorgeous musical contribution that goes around in my head.

[mikeandmike]

Cant fault NHOP for playin fast, his job was to keep up with Oscar Peterson. Like really, come on guys.

[xphoenixinflamesx]

Man, I'd hate to be Ray after NHØP solos! NHØP's speed isn't what impresses me, it's the fact that, even at that speed, his intonation is great, his technique never falters, and his material is so good! NHØP has never played a note by accident in his life! And I like his tone a lot, it's very distinctive. It does seem to come from the amp a lot, but still, you know Niels' playing immediately upon hearing it, because of tone, but also thanks to his distinctive style and material.

[KennewickMan00]

A lot of people are saying Niels is way better than Ray but I completely disagree with that. Ray has better time, better sound, and better solos. Niels can play really fast because his action on his bass is super low; it makes his bass sound like an electric which I don't really like. Also, when you solo it's not all about how fast you can play and show off your chops. A solo should have structure and melody which Ray's solos have. Niels is a great player, but I think Ray is way better.

[MrMelodius1]

@KennewickMan00 I wish I could get my electric bass to sound like Niels. It appears that you haven't actually listened to his solos either because they seem to be pretty melodic. Ray & Niels are both giants of the acoustic bass

[emlynvaughan]

I think that they both bass players give a great performance, Ray looks to me like he is playing a bit like NHOP, and vice versa..to show respect to one another. Notice NHOP's slurs near the end of his solo, they're very Ray Brown!

[Cambodia69]

Sometimes it's dangerous to eat while watching NHOP... and this was one of those times. Gasp!

[trojanowl]

Ray Brown after listening to NHOP:

"I'll have what he's having"

[massoudg]

The song is called "You Look Good To Me"

[ECLECTICEAR1]

what's the name of this song?

[Jazzper79]

It is beautiful to watch how easy NHØP plays the bass. Amazing.

[spoofzilla]

3:48!!!! Holy shit!!!

[jazzuffe]

I do not like to compare, and Ray Brown is fantastic, but? NHÖP!!

[syncopatedsteve]

I know, he was just another level!!

[RPB412]

I usually hate bass solos because bassists rarely have any sense of melody at all, or they just like to show off....so what a treat this video is to have two of the major exceptions playing together.

[spoofzilla]

You don't listen to much music do you RPB412 ?

[d2theutchgold2]

@RPB412 Yeah because Charles Mingus, Paul Chambers, Scott La Faro, Ron Carter, Jaco Patorious, etc have no sense of melody. Two of those ive mentioned were among the greatest composers of the 20th century, you clown.

[pelonpelonchaz]

ray brown and Neil play very different, the spped its not what make's a good bassplayer... but there's a lot of people who don't know nothing about jazz ..and imprivization

[delamerica93]

Holy jesus...I need to get better.... :(

[squashballferg]

does anyone know what the name of this piece is?

[Xiuxiu1121]

'You look good to me'

[delamerica93]

you look good to me

[Xiuxiu1121]

flea would be proud

[YeahChonas]

Don't even mention him... He has nothing to do with Brown or NHOP.

[kevinyomofo]

beautiful.

[japa1990]

I cant believe the argument. You guys are arguing apples and oranges. None is better, their styles are completely diferent and thats whats so great and work so well with oscar. U have oscar which plays a lot of notes and when ray solos its a rest, then on the other hand nhop stands side with oscar.

[joergen100]

Actually on listening to this video about 10 times: Niels Henning is far superior to Ray Brown. He is on the ball and in tune, which is more than can be said about RB. Because you are black doesn't mean that you are more in tune with Jazz. NHOP has played with the best of them all his life at Montmartre in Copenhagen.

Very nice recording! And good to see Mr. Peterson having some fun!

[redhouse7]

i disagree, although i think nhop's solos is killin and a little superior to ray brown, browns walking line is uncomparibly better, he adds more variation, and voicings, for example NHOP only does triplets on beats 2 where Ray Brown does them on all beats, its things like that, which make up the difference

[joergen100]

That is fine - I like that you actually give a reason why you disagree.

I am not sure why you think triplets on all beats is anything special (apart from you liking it obviously)

I am sure NHOP could do this if he thought it appropriate. I think we both agree that he is technically superior to RB ?

Anyway, doesn't matter, what matters is that we both like good musicians - and they both are :-)

[joergen100]

It is like arguing what is the nicer colour blue or red. It is irrelevant.

NHOP has a better technique than RB - no question about that. Oscar Peterson has said on many occasions that NHOP was the fastest thinking musician he has played with. But really, does it matter?

On electric bass: listen to a comparison between Jaco Pastorius and Jeff Berlin: Just as irrelevant: Jaco can make me cry but Jeff plays better

[shnrrr]

I don't think jeff berlin deserves to be in the same sentence as Jaco as a bass player. I agree with the rest of what you said, though

[joergen100]

I don't know. I would say that Jaco had a lot more feeling in his play (and not least tone). If you listen to Jeff Berlin with Bill Bruford (especially the album 'Feels good to me') he is very good. I think what you mean is that he is very 'showy' with his technique (I would be too if I was half as good technically :-))

Have you seen the youtube where Jaco and Jeff play together? Interesting but not fair to Jaco because he was at the end of his career. Cheers

[UncleRoha]

Why are any of you wasting your time trying to compare these guys or make a case for who is the superior bassist?

Ray Brown, NHOP and Ron Carter are all masters in their own right, and command the respect of bassists and musicians around the world.

Enjoy the fact that people as good as them exist on this planet.

[DonkeyFred123]

they are good... but knowone is better than Ron Carter

[herbassguitar]

I found that Ron Carter is terribly out of tune a lot seemingly without realising it.

[xphoenixinflamesx]

I've noticed that myself, a lot. Ron Carter's intonation is atrocious!

[kvintoler]

@xphoenixinflamesx true, but he's a badass bass player because of his incredible timing

[Flanning]

Here's my Ray Brown\NHOP comparison

Ray - much more percussive and seemed to be more based on rhythmic phrases than melodic ones. His style seems to have more in common with the blues tradition

NHOP - Was more concerned with the melodic line he was creating than any specific rhythmic groove. His playing seems more based in his ability to navigate the entire range flawlessly and in sync with his thought.

[joergen100]

Very good comparison that I agree with totally. Oscar Peterson said on many occasions that NHOP was the fastest thinking bassplayer he had ever played with. He does have tradition as well (played at Montmatre in Copenhagen since he was 14 or 15 with all the greats)

but what makes him special is the way he 'thinks' music. Listen to his 'Samba petit' for example!

[blah148]

At risk of fueling another futile, but interesting discussion,

I love Niel's but he seems to play the identical runs in every fast swing he plays. His technique is terrifying, but I don't think he has nearly the same connection with jazz that Ray had

[JazzmanJibilla]

Well I bet that was a LOT of fun.

[NightChild1000]

I think you can't compare Ray Brown with NHOP or NHOP with Ray Brown.

They have both their unbeatablle element:

Ray Brown: The unbelieveable feeling for Jazz

NHOP: He had THE technique. He had the feeling too but he played everything faster.

But everybody has an own opinion !

I like both very much !

[mangosnake]

I can imagine Oscar Peterson thinkin' : Ok, I have the 2 most badass wicked hardcore bass players here... Which one should I pick for the job ? BOTH !!!

[bassplayingmarc]

i believe niels is better but ray has a distinctive style that can not be compared

[mangosnake]

Ray is like a soft couch, you can just sit in there and sail smoothly through soloin'. He's a great soloist too but technically NHOP is a monster. I think he's The master but I do think that without Ray Brown NHOP wouldn't have been the same

[Nickradamus]

NOONE is above Ray Brown on the upright bass my friend. NOONE

[Mulwany]

blanton

[lfrese88]

fucking unbelievable!!!!!!

[mperik71]

By the way, let's not compare the two masters. They differ too much and they both have their own qualities and marvellous sound! Don't forget that there was also a man at the piano...

[mperik71]

It starts at 1.47 !! What a lovely way of finding harmonies!

[muserik]

Brakedd, the song is called "You look good to me"

And Oscar certainly redorded it a few times.

I have played this one myself with Wray Downes, an excellent Canadian pianist, disciple of O.P.

[jmreisser]

Not agree with you jazzweston1 ! Niels comes from Ray directly, this is very clear. Listen to his bass walking lines. On this you can hear Ray paying as much as Niels but Ray hated to play very fast. Both were the greatests, each in their own field !!!

[jazzweston1]

Ray outswings Niels clearly. However, Niels has great ideas and more chops.

[RenoRaider]

no way. Ray cant touch NHOP. so sorry.

[joergen100]

agree

[jazzweston1]

One of my favorite NHOP cuts is the one playing with Dexter Gordon (Those Were The Days) in a club with Kenny Drew. He seemed to have a deeper sound then.

[RenoRaider]

I love Oscar.

[brakedd]

Do you have the full version of this song? I have been trying to find the album or video for ages and I'd LOVE to get ahold of it.

[fitulus]

i feel so sorry i still cant believe he died but i still know he s here im a very big fan of oscar peterson hes my hero