in the first place the Jordan is the original palestinian state (see their flag). 2nd, the palestine is no country or state that's why it's not in the map.
The borders are as they where in 1967- EXCEPT from 2-3% in WESTBANK. These 2-3% they will get as LANDSWAPS- elsehvere.
The reason for why those 2-3% is still on Israel control is because they are right next to the border- AND JEWS have lived in these homes for more than 100 years. It is not fair to call them occupiers and it is not far to KILL them such as the palestinians would do..
they also attacked the jews and in self defence the jews fought back and won. also the thing about not putting palestine in the maps the arabs dont put israel in their maps. and until they can agree on a normal peace treaty with israel the un will not recognize a first ever state of palestine so neither do maps, palestine was the name give to the land when the romans kicked the jews out
by these maps showing taht all green is palestinian land btw shud include jews bc before 1948 the jews cnsidered themeselves palestinian and the arabs didnt and also most of that land was unoccupied by anyone it wasnt till the mid 1800s when many jews started moving back and turned the swampland into fields did arabs start imigrating from the surrounding area. almost all arabs and jews living in the land since 1850s were not born there.
I was born in the UK, but I am ethnically Indian, and I can tell you that over India every 100 miles you travel, the culture and/or language both totally change. The same is true of any big landmass. The east of the US is totally different to the west, and with many variations throughout the land. The same is true of the Arab world. And is it not true that the people who have been evicted from their homes do not have histories as long if not longer than Israel's existence 2000 odd years ago?
@Tazuboo As a result of the Israeli war for independence, there were some 500,000 to 600,000 Arab refugees, but over 1 million Jewish refugees, as Jews were kicked out of nearly all Arab nations. Some of those Jewish communities, such a the one in Algeria, had been in existence for longer than Islam itself. Why don't you hear of these Jewish refugees? Because they were mostly resettled in Israel and didn't make their loss of land the defining aspect of their lives as the Palestinians do.
@wrxwagon100 You're making this too easy for me. Sure I could talk about the Algerian genocide by the french that killed a million people during the French rule, but I digress. The majority of Jews in Algeria (140,000) optionally left when the french offered them citizenship after independence. Nobody told them to leave. Another place where Jews still prosper is an unlikely place - Iran where there are 20,000 odd who live harmoniously with the shia. There are around 25 Synagogues in Tehran.
Not sure if it actually does but nevertheless the argument of historical claim to the land is bogus because of the following:
1. Present day Palestenians are genetically of the same stock as Jews. I've attached the scientific study in a previous entry. So any claim to land by a Jew is equalled by those of a Palestenian.
2. Collective reward (by giving any Jew any right based on their race) is wrong by the same token that collective punishment is wrong.
Finally, 0:57 is the OSLO ACCORDS MAP from 1992 - it is NOT from 2000 and putting in on 2000 is simply a vile attempt to justify the second intifada. Remember the "Palestinians" have signed on this map, TWICE, in Oslo A and in Oslo B again in 1995. SO THIS IS THE FIRST INTERNATIONALLY AGREED MAP, EVER. Of course Oslo is only an interim agreement, but if the "Palestinians" wanted any more land they were supposed to negotiate for it. What they did instead, a second intifada, legally violated Oslo.
@TheEEStudent Arab land no matter what you call it . Also Arabs and Jews lived in peace as brothers before the evil, baby killing, Zionist came around. Make no mistake about the fact that many Jews hate you terrorist Zionist son of a bitches too.
@George6360 You contradict yourself. "Arab land.. Also Arabs and Jews lived in peace". RIGHT. There were BOTH Arabs AND Jews in the holy land. ALWAYS. So it is NOT "Arab land". The land was ruled by the Ottomans and even then it was NOT ONLY privately owned by Arabs. When the British mandate came into power, they discovered about 83% had no owners at all. This is NOT SHOWN ON THE MAP. That's why this map is ONLY cheap propaganda.
@TheEEStudent I say Arab land because it was promised by the British who then decided to rule them self.
Arabs never had a problem with Jews owning and liveing along side of them as long as it was fair . The Zionist changed this so yes Jews have a place there but the Zionist must go.
@George6360 Not correct. IF you study the Mcmahon agreement carefully, you see it does not relate to the Syrian province of the Ottoman empire, But to the Hijaz province. Hence Palestine was not promised to the Arabs. Arabia and Iraq where. However, in both places the Hashemites were opposed by the local population, so the Brits gave them Jordan instead.. which was a part of the Syrian province. In short, the Hashemites got an area which wasn't promised to them - But to us.
@George6360 And by the way, until the end of the mandate, the brits managed to sell only 5% to private owners, making it 78% of state land by 1948. Now where is this shown on the map? the green is NOT "Arab Land". Its "NOT PRIVATELY OWNED BY PRIVATE JEWISH CITIZENS" land. There were also Druze, Christians and Circassians. Where is THEIR land? Mmm?!!
@George6360 Face it - first map completely bogus. Second map is a plan that the Arab rejected therefore has no legal validity, third map is just a ceasefire line and the first internationally approved "border" ever, sort of speak - is ONLY the fourth map which is also, just an interim agreement. That's why I dislike this.
Population figures for Jews in the Holy Land in the 1880's were less than 4% Jews. The rest were Arabs. Even the Jews were Arabs. Since then, European Jews have forced the Muslim Arabs out of the area, and now Jews even reside in houses that legally belong to the Arabs that were expelled. What kind of a people does that make the Jews of Israel?
@TheChutzpahGirl I c the Arabs have gone from meddling with the facts to inventing facts. By the ottoman census of 1896 which is the first reliable source, the entire land had about 400,000 ppl while in Jerusalem alone there were 28,112 Jews (which were, of course, the majority in Jerusalem). That's already more than 4% ONLY in Jerusalem. This situation did not change since Jerusalem had a Jewish majority in every RELIABLE source - well, basically since Saladin.
@TheChutzpahGirl My impression is that you are not a serious researcher. If you trust only reliable sources you'll see its about 11% - but YES, in the entire territory, Jews were turned to a minority by persecution over the ages. However, I've never said differently. The important thing is that Jews stayed in the holy land despite of them. Which means: the landlord never really left. So the question of 4% or 11%, is anyway not an issue.
@TheChutzpahGirl What IS an issue in this propaganda clip, is land OWNERSHIP. Here - this clip is a COMPLETE lie: They painted all land which did not belong to Jewish private owners green. Gr8! Two can play this game. I could, theoretically, paint all land which did not belong to Muslim private owners and claim there was actually a JEWISH LOSS OF LAND.. now how would you like that?.. Yeah, it would only be an unfair philosophical trick, but it would be JUST AS VALID.
@TheChutzpahGirl About the few houses who weren't demolished in Jaffa and Acre due to historical conservation efforts and are now populated (almost all houses were demolished) - again, two can play this game. Just about every "Palestinian" refugee have a home waiting for him in Arabs states - the home of a "Jewish Refugee" who was deported from there to Israel by the Arab rulers between 1947 till 1972. Most of these homes are also populated, by Arabs.
0:47 is the 1949 armistice line. BY the EXPLICIT DEMAND of the Arab leaders at the UN, this line was to have no international meaning. Since they were planning to wipe us out when they get stronger, which some of them till do today.
The UN181 plan of 1947 (0:35) was rejected by the Arabs and so don't have any legal ground - BUT it wasn't the first partition plan offered. Why doesn't this clip show the earlier Peel commission partition plan of 1936/7? The Arabs where allocated a lot more territory by it. A lot more green. How nice.. Well, maybe because this is again antithetical to the clip aim - you see, the Arabs violently rejected it and started a three years revolt. Thousands have perished because of it.
First map (0:24) is a lie: It is NOT "Jewish vs Palestinian land". It is "Jewish privately owned land vs all the other land". 78% of the land of the British mandate of Palestine was mandate government owned, not Jewish neither Arab owned it. Now IF it showed private Jewish lands vs private Muslim lands, it would be much more logical, only it wouldn't serve the purpose of this propaganda clip. For one thing, it would show Jerusalem had a Jewish majority so it would be all white and no green :-).
NEVER.. believe it.. GOD HIMSELF said.. NEVER WILL I FORGET ISRAEL!!
SO.. it makes sence why the arabs never will erase Israel off the map!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For that, i KNOW, AND WE ALL KNOW leave Israel the FCUK alone and you will live in peace.. BUT.. the arabs will never give up!! Maybe cause they are stubborn and jealous??
However, it´s like this: THEY ATTACK ISRAEL.. THEY PAY THE PRICE!!
You fools actaully believe this land belongs to isreal? They came shortly before WW2 and just "established" themselves as a country. They are expanding every year and now occupy palestine with a brutal US funded military. They are the reason the middle east hates the US and they are the cause of ALL if this. The middle east simply wants them to stop causing so much hell.
@thetoughguy7 We can not be entirely sure when the kingdoms of Israel and Judah began.The Bible says that a United Monarchy existed under kings Saul, David and Solomon, ending in an acrimonious split about 920 BCE.
The northern kingdom, Israel, was destroyed by the Assyrians in 722 BCE.The southern kingdom, Judah was overrrun by the Babylonians in 586 BCE.It had lasted for about 334 years.Not even close to thousands of years and many other people have held the land langer
There is no such people. Palestine was created by the British and it suits the purposes of the Arabs to call them Palestinians. However History has proven no such race or lineage. They are Arabs period! Semites have always lived in the region and ruled it for thousands of Years! I am sick of hearing lies perpetrated as truth. up is down and wrong is right? When will the Arabs practice what they preach? They have never been a peaceful or tolerant people and doubtfully ever will.
@NOISLAMINUSA They were quite peaceful before Europian and Russian Jews invaded a land they have no claim to and never did. A barbaric race of converts who have no blood relation to the Hebrew people who lived in Biblical Israel.
Arabs are infact closer to the blood line than any other
@George6360 Israel was barren bunch of ruins and desert, with only a few Arabs living there and tending sheep. You don't know History and just like every other Muslim in the world, refuse to acknowledge the truth. Hell Muslims cant even stop killing each other, let alone live in peace with other cultures. Arrogant, ignorant and antiquated populace of the world! Peace be upon you sharmoota
Source: US Government, King-Crane Commission report, 1918
The King-Crane Commission reported that a Jewish State in Palestine would violate the Palestinian people’s right to self-determination—they recommended that the Zionists leave Palestine alone and find another place to plant Israel. Some very enlightening quotes from the King-Crane Commission report:
@George6360 < "the erection of a Jewish state cannot be accomplished without the gravest trespass upon the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine."
< "The fact came out repeatedly in the Commission's conference with Jewish representatives that the Zionists looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the present non-Jewish inhabitants of Palestine."
@George6360 < "No British officer consulted by the Commissioners believed that the Zionist program could be carried out except by force of arms. That itself is evidence of a strong sense of injustice of the Zionist program."
< "The initial claim, often submitted by Zionist representatives, that they have a 'right' to Palestine, based on an occupation of two thousand years ago, can hardly be seriously considered."
@George6360 Clearly you don't . Interestingly you forgot about Abraham, Isaac , Jacob, Dan, King David, Solomon and the entire 2000 year history of Israel. Dumb ass
Oh...what people are you talking about again? Palestinian who? Never heard of them. Please provide one historical reference older than ww1 that can prove an ancient lineage of the so called Palestinians. If not, shut up
@NOISLAMINUSA < "The initial claim, often submitted by Zionist representatives, that they have a 'right' to Palestine, based on an occupation of two thousand years ago, can hardly be seriously considered."
@NOISLAMINUSA Why must anyone go back more than 100 years ? The region has been controlled by numerous different peoples, including Ancient Egyptians, Canaanites, Ancient Israelites, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Ancient Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, the Sunni Arab Caliphate, the Shia Fatimid Caliphate, Crusaders, Ayyubids, Mameluks, Ottomans, the British and modern Israelis and Palestinians.
The point is why should Israel be allowed to claim it after 2000 years
@NOISLAMINUSA Arabs are Semites just as Jews and the first clear use of the term Palestine to refer to the region synonymous with that defined in modern times was in 5th century BC Ancient Greece.Herodotus wrote of a 'district of Syria, called Palaistinê"
@NOISLAMINUSA A 2000 year old claim on land is just retarded and many nations can claim rights if allowed to use this argument.(seems Israel is the only one to do this..hmm)
Palestine before WW1 was thought of as southern Syria by Arabs and full of people, with a rich culture and not a waste land as you fools think.
@George6360 So by your logic. The USA defeat of Iraq, Afghanistan which we could have kept as a war spoil and made American. Those countries would have had no historical argument for ownership of those lands. Since they lived there for thousands of years, it was all negated by our conquering them. Good idea! Perhaps America should start keeping what it wins, along with all of the oil and the hell with the people there. LOL Yeah you wouldn't complain about that?
@NOISLAMINUSA Defeat ?..We are still fighting yes and could fight another 20 years I guess but we wont and the defeat is ours not the other way around.
@George6360 Again you establish your dogmatic Arab personality by avoiding direct questions you can not answer. Secondly....let me define defeat for you. When your country has no government, tax authority, infrastructure and a foreign power is occupying you. YOUR DEFEATED!! DUMB ASS
@NOISLAMINUSA No , not defeated just occupied. The defeat is when you fight for 20 years and fail at your goal only to return home will no gain but the death of to many good men.
@George6360 PS I can't help but notice you never answered my Question Sharmoota. I think Sharmoota is much more offensive than fool, don't you habibi? If Arab culture is so rich, why does the world view the Middleast with contempt? hmmmm?
learn some history: Philistines were a people who occupied the southern coast of Canaan at the beginning of the Iron Age (circa 1175 BC). According to the Bible, they ruled the five city-states (the "Philistine Pentapolis") of Gaza, Askelon, Ashdod, Ekron and Gath, from the Wadi Gaza in the south to the Yarqon River in the north.
@FLAMESandTEARS learn some history: Philistines were a people who occupied the southern coast of Canaan at the beginning of the Iron Age (circa 1175 BC). According to the Bible, they ruled the five city-states (the "Philistine Pentapolis") of Gaza, Askelon, Ashdod, Ekron and Gath, from the Wadi Gaza in the south to the Yarqon River in the north.
@aznprodigy17 learn some history: Philistines were a people who occupied the southern coast of Canaan at the beginning of the Iron Age (circa 1175 BC). According to the Bible, they ruled the five city-states (the "Philistine Pentapolis") of Gaza, Askelon, Ashdod, Ekron and Gath, from the Wadi Gaza in the south to the Yarqon River in the north.
@crackz123 did u wikipedia that? good! at least you looked up something better than most around here pushing their anti-Israel agendas. I agree with you and say they may have also been connected to Phoenicians.
@aznprodigy17 You seem to know all the Zionist propaganda very well. The fact is Israel is the only terrorist state that has been able to use a two thousand year old claim on land.
@George6360 Propaganda? You mean the fact that I know Israel's history better than you is propaganda? Maybe cos I study and pursue worthwhile ideals whilst you insist to make a particular group of people on the planet which coincidentally is a minority and also victim of the Holocaust; to be subject to your liberal garbage. Your ambition to terrorise a people who are already terrorised everyday by surrounding nations is quite inhumane and disturbing.
@aznprodigy17 Truth is that Jews created Israel by terror and murder and the victims of the Holocaust wasted no time doing the same evil to another people.
@George6360 Did anyone tell you that you're a neo-facist for saying that? Shame you can't treat another people group with respect and dignity after they were massacred in WWII. Maybe you never learnt about WWII or Adolf Hitler. How sad.
@thetoughguy7 Haha, I don't think I'm disagreeing with you. Because geographical terms don't dictate sovereign borders. If it did, it'll be like saying the Himalayas should be a country because its called the Himalayas. Btw The nation there was always Israel. I concur.
@thetoughguy7 It was still full of Arab people who lived and worked, had family, a rich culture etc...then the Zionist comes and starts stealing , killing etc.
they already were allowed to keep half the land and live there. many of the arabs around the area are worthless and violent idiots. that is why israel won the six days war and took most of the area.
@aznprodigy17 Their was always Arabs and Jews living there, Arabs being Palestinian and Jews Israelites. Jews left the land then came back in 1948 by buying a portion of the land. Now thats when the problem come, The Jews stated to steel Palestinian lands and to settle there...now ask yourself why you're unwanted.How can you say the Palestinian were invented in 1977 if they have their own culture, dialogue, traditions, etc.. those things dont get invented in 29 years!
@WakamolyTheGreatest Arabs were never called Palestinian until 1977. As you said, there were Arabs and Jews. Yes. But the Palestinians as another separate culture?? Good joke. These "Palestinians" all have an Arabic culture/Jewish culture not a Palestinian one. So their culture was not invented, but rather, relabelled.
If it turned out that so-called Arab Palestenians are actually genetically of the same stock as Jews and Chrisitians why would you assume that Lebanon is andy different.?
You're not suggesting that Arabs came out in their hundreds of thousands from the Peninsula and invaded the Levant?
What likely happened is what also happened in Palestine.
A group embraced the language/culture of Arab invaders and others didn't.
Palestine has been always identified nominally in the days of the Ottoman Empire and that should've explained to you why the British also referred to Palestine by name when drawing up Balfour declaration and other documents.
@tmpq1lzy learn some history: Philistines were a people who occupied the southern coast of Canaan at the beginning of the Iron Age (circa 1175 BC). According to the Bible, they ruled the five city-states (the "Philistine Pentapolis") of Gaza, Askelon, Ashdod, Ekron and Gath, from the Wadi Gaza in the south to the Yarqon River in the north.
talking about the romans.. LOL
how people can talk shit, when they dont know anything about an issue..
@tmpq1lzy There's no such thing as Israel, got any proof? Heyy, my book says this land is mine lol, Justice always prevails, next time there won't be survivors.
Coptic loss of land stolen by Arab Muslims. The real Egyptians were not Arabs, never spoke Arabic and have nothing to do with today's Arab Muslims. The Coptics are the original owners of Egypt and deserve their own state. Pakistan is also land stolen from India. Hebron is the birthplace of Judaism and Jerusalem a Hebrew name and capital. The Islamic mosque is a desecration of this holy city as well as of ground zero in NY.
SCUMBAGS: Those who deny the holocaust and that their Haj Amin did not bow to Adolf. Those who dump huge Mosques on other peoples sacred sites - then deny the site was ever existing. Heaven has exposed them: making all their regime states crumble from within with no help from anyone. Mosques and invented Pals will not change abject lies to truth - it will expose you instead. Israel is a light unto the nations - everything Muslims tried to do to Israel is seen now across the world.
@armani87john Fact is Muslims sided with Hitler in W.W.II and formed the Islamic Brotherhood. It resulted in the greatest miracle: Israel was returned in the face of a host of Islamic nations proclaiming genocide on refugees fleeing Nazi Germany. Jerusalam has spat you out - take your silly mosque away from the Hebrew capital and from the sacred 9/11 site.
End Islamic lies. Palestine was the name given to Judea, the Jewish homeland - not an Islamic or Arab land. The Jerusalem Post was called The Palestinian Post till Arafat emerged and stole this name. The Mosque dumped in Jerusalem on the Jewish temple site is a crime by those who have no fear of the true God and who deny their crimes with impudence before the world. Muslims also attack the Gospels when they deny the Jewish temple - the Gospels say Jesus visited this temple.
Yes, proudly a Zionist puppet. Moses was the first Zionist. Muslims lie to their people telling them Moses was a Muslim. And all Muslims open their mouths wide for such lies. Who's the puppet?!
these maps contain fallacies that you should investigate. There is more to the story than this misleading map. For example, Jordan owned West Bank, which the 1886 map shows as being labeled Judea, and Egypt owned Gaza, yet both are labeled as Palestinian land. Is it Egyption/Jordanian or Palestinian? You must seek out all facts and research both sides with a sincere and objective mindset. Jews also bought the land. There is substantial evidence to prove this. Open your eyes.
@cobey321 Oh thanks for your feedback =D so Jews actually bought all of that land? Jews bought almost 95% of Palestinian land?? or did they take most of it by force and murdered thousands in their wake? help me here!
I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or not. Jews starting buying land as early as the 1880's, way before the holocaust. Do you really view Jews as murdering people in cold blood for land?!? Let me show you something... google the Peel Commission Report
Chapter 4 of the Peel Commission Report in 1937 (Still before the Holocaust):
"The Arab population shows a remarkable increase since 1920, and it has had some share in the increased prosperity of Palestine. Many Arab landowners have benefited from the sale of land and the profitable investment of the purchase money. The fellaheen are better off on the whole than they were in 1920."
"The Arab claims that the Jews have obtained too large a proportion of good land cannot be maintained. Much of the land now carrying orange groves was sand dunes or swamps and uncultivated when it was bought."
They bought so much land they tried to limit it -
Chapter 9:
"The Palestine Order in Council and, if necessary, the Mandate should be amended to permit of legislation empowering the High Commissioner to prohibit the transfer of land in any stated area to Jews, so that the obligation to safeguard the right and position of the Arabs may be carried out".
Here is your inarguable evidence. And the posts below this are the Peel Commission Report of 1937, google it.
"The quantity of Arab land offered for sale was far in excess of the Jewish ability to purchase." (Morris p 111)
"A professional analysis of land purchases between 1880 and 1948 established 3/4 of the plots purchased by Jews were from mega-landowners rather than those who worked the soil." (Abraham Grannot, The Land System in Palestine: History and Structure, p278)
Also the expansion in the 1948 map was a result of instigated war - SEVEN armies declared war on Israel after they declared independence, to destroy it, to annihilate it (Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Yemen), but Israel won. Ask yourself this question, why did the other armies need to get involved if this was strictly a Palestinian problem?
Too much details? Sir, I did answer your question by showing you the "details". My answer was this: Jews did buy land from as far back as 1880. They did not massacre the Arabs in their wake. They did not buy 95% of the land. The expansion was a result of instigated wars. In 1948, 7 armies attacked the newly established state hoping to destroy it, but Israel won. In 1967, Israel got land as a result of another instigated war from Jordan and Egypt, not Palestine. Is this ok?
Before the British mandate the region belonged to the Ottoman Empire. There was never a Palestinian State, the region was scarcely populated with no organized leadership.
As far as I know, the UN partition was never put to practice, Israel accepted it, the arabs didn't. There was never an organized group to form the Palestinian State at that time.
Jews buy the land from the Arabs in that Territory... its like Russia will tell America to give back Alaska to the Russian people. too late to regret now the arabs got the cash, but dont wanna let go of the land so they attack and cry if get hit back
1. The British mandate owned around HALF of the land in green, not any "Palestinian".
2. The Palis lost land due to their war on the Jews.
3. The amount of property, land & wealth that was stolen from Jews in Arab lands in the last century, is FAR GREATER. It was stolen with the false pretext of the war with the Zionist Jews in the Land of Israel. The Islamofacists saw ALL the Jews in their land liable.
Do they really want to settle this historic score?
Islamofascism has been revived thanks to Israel's denigration and robbery of Palestinian land and people. Zionist propaganda would have you believe the Arabs just decided to hun the Israelis for game.
They waged the war in full knowledge of its futility as it was not Israel they were battling but the might of its Western financiers that toyed around with the land and identity of Palestine while it was under their care to the give to Jews. Now it has got out of hand.
Come on I just proved to you that the land wasn't robbed. Jews bought the land. Buying is not robbing, my friend. Ask yourself this question: How do Jews, most of which who are coming immediately from the Holocaust, "rob" land from a majority of Muslims? How did a minority weak and hungry Jewish population rob a majority Muslim population? Why would Jews steal land from someone? How does this make sense in your mind?
Actually, Jewish migration to the region dates all the way back to 1880, and yes, it was in the form of buying lands. It was mostly from the east Europe side, fleeing from persecution. And this was done individually, so there wasn't any possible way to take any land by force anyway.
Secondly, financier or not - the fact is that the Jews were vastly outnumbered and were attacked from every side. There were no American troops or European troops. And yes they did hunt the Israelis for game. Your good friend Haj Amin al Husseini collaborated with Hitler and said, ""I declare a holy war, my Moslem brothers! Murder the Jews! Murder them all!" Why murder them all if all you want is to reclaim land? This is hatred at its purest, my friend.
The Jews in those countries, which also include Algeria, Tunisia, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Egypt, and others had communities established for thousands of years with strong traditions. When word got out that the Israeli state's existence was in jeopardy, the Jewish populations of those countries were exiled. This is unarguable. I don't know what your argument is. These are historical , documented, well-known, yet ignored facts. Type in any of what I said in google.
"was a mass departure, flight and expulsion of Jews, primarily of Sephardi and Mizrahi background, from Arab and Muslim countries, from 1948 until the early 1970s. Though Jewish migration from Middle Eastern and North African communities began in the late 19th century, and Jews began fleeing some Arab countries in the 1930s and early 1940s, it did not become significant until the 1948 Arab-Israeli War."
Come man, you know I'm not making this up. The Jews in those countries were subject to sever antisemitism.
"From 1948 until the early 1970s, 800,000–1,000,000 Jews left, fled, or were expelled from their homes in Arab countries; 260,000 of them reached Israel between 1948 and 1951; and 600,000 by 1972." (Malka Hillel Shulewitz, The Forgotten Millions: The Modern Jewish Exodus from Arab Lands, Continuum 2001, pp. 139 and 155)
One example: In 1963 The Algerian nationality law of newly independent Algeria granted citizenship only to Muslims - those related to fathers and paternal grandfathers had Muslim personal status could become citizens of the new state. All Jewish and Christian residents were driven into exile. The Jewish community was considered indigenous to Algeria, as it had been in Algeria long before Islam. It could trace its presence to the year 586 BCE.
So in the 1948-1967 part, you are saying that Jordan and Egypt are Palestinian land right? The West Bank and Gaza belonged to Jordan and Egypt at the time, not 'Palestine'.
This is an awful misleading and inaccurate representation
1) in 1946 there were not even 1 million people living in the land, it was mostly empty.
2) The 1948 plan shows 1/2 the land for Jews, but notice how the bottom part is the Negev, which is all desert, no one lives in the desert. The entire Palestinian part contains lush and green.
3) in 1948, Israel was attacked by 7 armies and pushed back the armies
4) Israel took the West Bank and Gaza from Egypt and Jordan, respectively, not Palestine.
Israeli negotiators till this date deny the 2 million (originally around 800,000) Palestenian refugees the right to return. But they never deny the figures.
Where did you think these people were living? Floating in the air above?
If you want to push forward your historical fabrications make sure Israeli government change their tone and decide in fact there were never Palestinian refugees because no on lives in the land...
According to Dr. Walid al-Qamhawi, a former member of the Executive Committee of the PLO, “it was collective fear, moral disintegration and chaos in every field that exiled the Arabs of Tiberias, Haifa and dozens of towns and villages” (Joseph Schechtman, The Refugee in the World, NY: A.S. Barnes and Co., 1963, p. 186).
1) "Cohesive society"? Sir, that is a false statement. "Arab-Muslim population was transient and migratory" as described by J.L. Burkhardt, a local authority, saying "few individuals die in the same village in which they were born. Families are continually moving from one place to another... "
The Ottoman Empire encompassed a huge Geographic entity.
The fact that they are cohesive is borne explicitly by genetic studies such as this one
Nebel et al., "High-resolution Y chromosome haplotypes of Israeli and Palestinian Arabs reveal geographic substructure and substantial overlap with haplotypes of Jews." Human Genetics Vol. 107, No. 6, (December 2000), pp. 630–641
In fact they are so cohesive they overlap significantly with historically isolated Jewish groups!
Sir, do you even know what a haplotype is? I am a medical student. You would be interested to learn that every human being in the world has 99% of the same exact DNA and less than 1% separates us apart.
Sir, do you know what cohesive means? Cohesive means unified. That genetic study does not reveal that they are cohesive, and the different ethnologic backgrounds and migratory tendencies are the opposite of cohesive.
2) The population was of various backgrounds. the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica described the population as comprising widely differing "ethnological" backgrounds speaking no less than "fifty languages", including Kurds, Persians, Sudanese, Algerians, Samaritans, Tatars, Georgians, and others.
Cohesive means unified and well-integrated. They were not unified or well-integrated. They came from other countries from within the Ottoman Empire. And when in Palestine they did not stay in one place. They moved around a lot. That is not a cohesive my friend, that is a nomadic society.
3) "Rapid demographic hijacking"? That is also a false statement. Jews purchased land from the Arabs. "The quantity of Arab land offered for sale was far in excess of the Jewish ability to purchase." (Morris p 111) A professional analysis of land purchases between 1880 and 1948 established 3/4 of the plots purchased by Jews were from mega-landowners rather than those who worked the soil. (Abraham Grannot, The Land System in Palestine: History and Structure, p278)
Till this date settlements are put up on illegally procured land.
The vile nature of Israel's heavy handed enforcement of its identity through intimidation, settlement, mass economic and military punishment on Palestine and surrounding countries such as Lebanon is an embarrassment to your narrative.
It is not Demographic hijacking...it's Demographic raping of the geography of the Middle East of a Jewish identity that has disappeared for millennia out of no fault of the Palestenian
I'm sorry sir, but you are wrong again. The settlements are not illegal because the land was taken from Jordan, not Palestine. In fact, it's interesting that between 1948-1967 no one complained about Jordanian occupation of the West Bank.
4) They were fearful, choatic, and morally disintegrated because Arab leaders were calling for war and encouragement of leaving, as I just showed previously.
“The Arab States encouraged the Palestine Arabs to leave their homes temporarily in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies,” according to the Jordanian newspaper Filastin, (February 19, 1949).
One refugee quoted in the Jordan newspaper, Ad Difaa (September 6, 1954), said: “The Arab government told us: Get out so that we can get in. So we got out, but they did not get in.”
Habib Issa in Al Hoda (June 8, 1951). ““The Secretary-General of the Arab League, Azzam Pasha said all the millions the Jews had spent on land and economic development would be easy booty ... a simple matter to throw Jews into the Mediterranean... Brotherly advice was given to the Arabs of Palestine to leave their land, homes and property and to stay temporarily in neighboring fraternal states, lest the guns of the invading Arab armies mow them down.”
In his memoirs, Haled al Azm, the Syrian Prime Minister in 1948-49, also admitted the Arab role in persuading the refugees to leave:
“Since 1948 we have been demanding the return of the refugees to their homes. But we ourselves are the ones who encouraged them to leave. Only a few months separated our call to them to leave and our appeal to the United Nations to resolve on their return” (The Memoirs of Haled al Azm, Beirut, 1973, Part 1, pp. 386-387).
Who gave such orders? Leaders like such as Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Said, who declared: “We will smash the country with our guns and obliterate every place the Jews seek shelter in. The Arabs should conduct their wives and children to safe areas until the fighting has died down” (Myron Kaufman, The Coming Destruction of Israel, NY: The American Library Inc., 1970, pp. 26-27)
in the first place the Jordan is the original palestinian state (see their flag). 2nd, the palestine is no country or state that's why it's not in the map.
embalsadokallen 8 hours ago
There never was a "palestine", there is no "palestine, and won't never be a "palestine" !!!
So ignorant to make a video like that .....
ManuBen2 16 hours ago
Video should be renamed Loss of land from Hebrew-Jewish Palaestina. You cant lose land from a country that wasn't yours to begin with.
Alexplus20 1 day ago
oh lol- the first map is also false.
Seriously - shouldnt you at least bring CORRECT INFORMATION?
xassxass 2 days ago
Its FUNNY how they LIE on the MAP
From 2000 they LIE when they show it.
The borders are as they where in 1967- EXCEPT from 2-3% in WESTBANK. These 2-3% they will get as LANDSWAPS- elsehvere.
The reason for why those 2-3% is still on Israel control is because they are right next to the border- AND JEWS have lived in these homes for more than 100 years. It is not fair to call them occupiers and it is not far to KILL them such as the palestinians would do..
Please stick to the truth!
xassxass 2 days ago
they also attacked the jews and in self defence the jews fought back and won. also the thing about not putting palestine in the maps the arabs dont put israel in their maps. and until they can agree on a normal peace treaty with israel the un will not recognize a first ever state of palestine so neither do maps, palestine was the name give to the land when the romans kicked the jews out
53tylerb 2 days ago
by these maps showing taht all green is palestinian land btw shud include jews bc before 1948 the jews cnsidered themeselves palestinian and the arabs didnt and also most of that land was unoccupied by anyone it wasnt till the mid 1800s when many jews started moving back and turned the swampland into fields did arabs start imigrating from the surrounding area. almost all arabs and jews living in the land since 1850s were not born there.
53tylerb 2 days ago
I was born in the UK, but I am ethnically Indian, and I can tell you that over India every 100 miles you travel, the culture and/or language both totally change. The same is true of any big landmass. The east of the US is totally different to the west, and with many variations throughout the land. The same is true of the Arab world. And is it not true that the people who have been evicted from their homes do not have histories as long if not longer than Israel's existence 2000 odd years ago?
Tazuboo 3 days ago
@Tazuboo As a result of the Israeli war for independence, there were some 500,000 to 600,000 Arab refugees, but over 1 million Jewish refugees, as Jews were kicked out of nearly all Arab nations. Some of those Jewish communities, such a the one in Algeria, had been in existence for longer than Islam itself. Why don't you hear of these Jewish refugees? Because they were mostly resettled in Israel and didn't make their loss of land the defining aspect of their lives as the Palestinians do.
wrxwagon100 2 days ago
@wrxwagon100 You're making this too easy for me. Sure I could talk about the Algerian genocide by the french that killed a million people during the French rule, but I digress. The majority of Jews in Algeria (140,000) optionally left when the french offered them citizenship after independence. Nobody told them to leave. Another place where Jews still prosper is an unlikely place - Iran where there are 20,000 odd who live harmoniously with the shia. There are around 25 Synagogues in Tehran.
Tazuboo 2 days ago
Only if the stinky arab fucks didn't attack israel....
THE ARAB FUCKS WOULD HAVE MORE LAND!
xThexMaXx 3 days ago
@xThexMaXx
The Arabs, under the Ottoman Empire, owned all the land before the stinky Jewish fucks crept out of their East Europe ghettos and invaded the land.
THE JEWISH FUCKS SHOULD HAVE NO LAND...
Whocreatedgod 7 hours ago
More like the reclaiming of Jewish land.
d3ltadrive 5 days ago
even the quran acknowledges it as jewish land
jimmy08LTFC 5 days ago
@jimmy08LTFC
Not sure if it actually does but nevertheless the argument of historical claim to the land is bogus because of the following:
1. Present day Palestenians are genetically of the same stock as Jews. I've attached the scientific study in a previous entry. So any claim to land by a Jew is equalled by those of a Palestenian.
2. Collective reward (by giving any Jew any right based on their race) is wrong by the same token that collective punishment is wrong.
Whocreatedgod 7 hours ago
@Whocreatedgod I also agree. Most palestinians are More semitic than others, But most don't know it.
xThexMaXx 5 hours ago
Finally, 0:57 is the OSLO ACCORDS MAP from 1992 - it is NOT from 2000 and putting in on 2000 is simply a vile attempt to justify the second intifada. Remember the "Palestinians" have signed on this map, TWICE, in Oslo A and in Oslo B again in 1995. SO THIS IS THE FIRST INTERNATIONALLY AGREED MAP, EVER. Of course Oslo is only an interim agreement, but if the "Palestinians" wanted any more land they were supposed to negotiate for it. What they did instead, a second intifada, legally violated Oslo.
TheEEStudent 1 week ago
@TheEEStudent Arab land no matter what you call it . Also Arabs and Jews lived in peace as brothers before the evil, baby killing, Zionist came around. Make no mistake about the fact that many Jews hate you terrorist Zionist son of a bitches too.
George6360 1 week ago
@George6360 You contradict yourself. "Arab land.. Also Arabs and Jews lived in peace". RIGHT. There were BOTH Arabs AND Jews in the holy land. ALWAYS. So it is NOT "Arab land". The land was ruled by the Ottomans and even then it was NOT ONLY privately owned by Arabs. When the British mandate came into power, they discovered about 83% had no owners at all. This is NOT SHOWN ON THE MAP. That's why this map is ONLY cheap propaganda.
TheEEStudent 1 week ago
@TheEEStudent I say Arab land because it was promised by the British who then decided to rule them self.
Arabs never had a problem with Jews owning and liveing along side of them as long as it was fair . The Zionist changed this so yes Jews have a place there but the Zionist must go.
George6360 1 week ago
@George6360 Not correct. IF you study the Mcmahon agreement carefully, you see it does not relate to the Syrian province of the Ottoman empire, But to the Hijaz province. Hence Palestine was not promised to the Arabs. Arabia and Iraq where. However, in both places the Hashemites were opposed by the local population, so the Brits gave them Jordan instead.. which was a part of the Syrian province. In short, the Hashemites got an area which wasn't promised to them - But to us.
TheEEStudent 5 days ago
@George6360 And by the way, until the end of the mandate, the brits managed to sell only 5% to private owners, making it 78% of state land by 1948. Now where is this shown on the map? the green is NOT "Arab Land". Its "NOT PRIVATELY OWNED BY PRIVATE JEWISH CITIZENS" land. There were also Druze, Christians and Circassians. Where is THEIR land? Mmm?!!
TheEEStudent 1 week ago
@George6360 Face it - first map completely bogus. Second map is a plan that the Arab rejected therefore has no legal validity, third map is just a ceasefire line and the first internationally approved "border" ever, sort of speak - is ONLY the fourth map which is also, just an interim agreement. That's why I dislike this.
TheEEStudent 1 week ago
@TheEEStudent
Population figures for Jews in the Holy Land in the 1880's were less than 4% Jews. The rest were Arabs. Even the Jews were Arabs. Since then, European Jews have forced the Muslim Arabs out of the area, and now Jews even reside in houses that legally belong to the Arabs that were expelled. What kind of a people does that make the Jews of Israel?
TheChutzpahGirl 1 week ago
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@TheChutzpahGirl I c the Arabs have gone from meddling with the facts to inventing facts. By the ottoman census of 1896 which is the first reliable source, the entire land had about 400,000 ppl while in Jerusalem alone there were 28,112 Jews (which were, of course, the majority in Jerusalem). That's already more than 4% ONLY in Jerusalem. This situation did not change since Jerusalem had a Jewish majority in every RELIABLE source - well, basically since Saladin.
TheEEStudent 1 week ago
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TheEEStudent 1 week ago
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@TheChutzpahGirl My impression is that you are not a serious researcher. If you trust only reliable sources you'll see its about 11% - but YES, in the entire territory, Jews were turned to a minority by persecution over the ages. However, I've never said differently. The important thing is that Jews stayed in the holy land despite of them. Which means: the landlord never really left. So the question of 4% or 11%, is anyway not an issue.
TheEEStudent 1 week ago
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@TheChutzpahGirl What IS an issue in this propaganda clip, is land OWNERSHIP. Here - this clip is a COMPLETE lie: They painted all land which did not belong to Jewish private owners green. Gr8! Two can play this game. I could, theoretically, paint all land which did not belong to Muslim private owners and claim there was actually a JEWISH LOSS OF LAND.. now how would you like that?.. Yeah, it would only be an unfair philosophical trick, but it would be JUST AS VALID.
TheEEStudent 1 week ago
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@TheChutzpahGirl About the few houses who weren't demolished in Jaffa and Acre due to historical conservation efforts and are now populated (almost all houses were demolished) - again, two can play this game. Just about every "Palestinian" refugee have a home waiting for him in Arabs states - the home of a "Jewish Refugee" who was deported from there to Israel by the Arab rulers between 1947 till 1972. Most of these homes are also populated, by Arabs.
TheEEStudent 1 week ago
0:47 is the 1949 armistice line. BY the EXPLICIT DEMAND of the Arab leaders at the UN, this line was to have no international meaning. Since they were planning to wipe us out when they get stronger, which some of them till do today.
TheEEStudent 1 week ago
The UN181 plan of 1947 (0:35) was rejected by the Arabs and so don't have any legal ground - BUT it wasn't the first partition plan offered. Why doesn't this clip show the earlier Peel commission partition plan of 1936/7? The Arabs where allocated a lot more territory by it. A lot more green. How nice.. Well, maybe because this is again antithetical to the clip aim - you see, the Arabs violently rejected it and started a three years revolt. Thousands have perished because of it.
TheEEStudent 1 week ago
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TheEEStudent 1 week ago
First map (0:24) is a lie: It is NOT "Jewish vs Palestinian land". It is "Jewish privately owned land vs all the other land". 78% of the land of the British mandate of Palestine was mandate government owned, not Jewish neither Arab owned it. Now IF it showed private Jewish lands vs private Muslim lands, it would be much more logical, only it wouldn't serve the purpose of this propaganda clip. For one thing, it would show Jerusalem had a Jewish majority so it would be all white and no green :-).
TheEEStudent 1 week ago
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NEVER.. believe it.. GOD HIMSELF said.. NEVER WILL I FORGET ISRAEL!!
SO.. it makes sence why the arabs never will erase Israel off the map!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For that, i KNOW, AND WE ALL KNOW leave Israel the FCUK alone and you will live in peace.. BUT.. the arabs will never give up!! Maybe cause they are stubborn and jealous??
However, it´s like this: THEY ATTACK ISRAEL.. THEY PAY THE PRICE!!
Say HELLOH to my little friend.. ISRAËL!!
TerenceTriple81 1 week ago
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TerenceTriple81 1 week ago
DRIVE THOSE FUCKS INTO THE SEA!
jackwilson4747 1 week ago
There's no such thing as Israel, even true Jews know that.
ilfaraone7 1 week ago
You fools actaully believe this land belongs to isreal? They came shortly before WW2 and just "established" themselves as a country. They are expanding every year and now occupy palestine with a brutal US funded military. They are the reason the middle east hates the US and they are the cause of ALL if this. The middle east simply wants them to stop causing so much hell.
wkstearns91 1 week ago
@wkstearns91
it was theirs for thousands of years, retard. it wasn't until they were removed by the romans when the land started to become occupied by foreigners.
thetoughguy7 1 week ago
@thetoughguy7 We can not be entirely sure when the kingdoms of Israel and Judah began.The Bible says that a United Monarchy existed under kings Saul, David and Solomon, ending in an acrimonious split about 920 BCE.
The northern kingdom, Israel, was destroyed by the Assyrians in 722 BCE.The southern kingdom, Judah was overrrun by the Babylonians in 586 BCE.It had lasted for about 334 years.Not even close to thousands of years and many other people have held the land langer
George6360 1 week ago
@George6360
no, that was the time when they were being invaded. the land was still theirs. they weren't completely removed until the times of the romans.
thetoughguy7 1 week ago
@thetoughguy7 The Zionist is and was the invader, even the Ancient Israeli were invaders but back then it was the way of things to be barbaric.
Israel is no better than Nazi Germany with it's Nationalism and Genocide of the Arab people who lived in peace before the storm troops invaded.
George6360 1 week ago
@George6360
what's done is done. that was thousands of years ago, and the fakestineans are just immigrants from neighboring arab countries.
thetoughguy7 1 week ago
There is no such people. Palestine was created by the British and it suits the purposes of the Arabs to call them Palestinians. However History has proven no such race or lineage. They are Arabs period! Semites have always lived in the region and ruled it for thousands of Years! I am sick of hearing lies perpetrated as truth. up is down and wrong is right? When will the Arabs practice what they preach? They have never been a peaceful or tolerant people and doubtfully ever will.
NOISLAMINUSA 1 week ago
@NOISLAMINUSA They were quite peaceful before Europian and Russian Jews invaded a land they have no claim to and never did. A barbaric race of converts who have no blood relation to the Hebrew people who lived in Biblical Israel.
Arabs are infact closer to the blood line than any other
George6360 1 week ago
@George6360 Israel was barren bunch of ruins and desert, with only a few Arabs living there and tending sheep. You don't know History and just like every other Muslim in the world, refuse to acknowledge the truth. Hell Muslims cant even stop killing each other, let alone live in peace with other cultures. Arrogant, ignorant and antiquated populace of the world! Peace be upon you sharmoota
NOISLAMINUSA 1 week ago
@NOISLAMINUSA You know nothing about history..this is history...
In 1918, 60,000 Jews lived in Palestine—an increase of 240% since 1890
n 90% of Palestine’s population was non-Jewish (after 22 years of all-out Zionist efforts, Jews made up only 10% of Palestine’s population)
n The Palestinians did NOT want a Jewish state in Palestine
n Zionists admitted that, if they were given Palestine, they intended to throw out non-Jews
George6360 1 week ago
@George6360 More history..
Source: US Government, King-Crane Commission report, 1918
The King-Crane Commission reported that a Jewish State in Palestine would violate the Palestinian people’s right to self-determination—they recommended that the Zionists leave Palestine alone and find another place to plant Israel. Some very enlightening quotes from the King-Crane Commission report:
George6360 1 week ago
@George6360 < "the erection of a Jewish state cannot be accomplished without the gravest trespass upon the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine."
< "The fact came out repeatedly in the Commission's conference with Jewish representatives that the Zionists looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the present non-Jewish inhabitants of Palestine."
George6360 1 week ago
@George6360 < "No British officer consulted by the Commissioners believed that the Zionist program could be carried out except by force of arms. That itself is evidence of a strong sense of injustice of the Zionist program."
< "The initial claim, often submitted by Zionist representatives, that they have a 'right' to Palestine, based on an occupation of two thousand years ago, can hardly be seriously considered."
George6360 1 week ago
@George6360 More history...
Many Jews were so shocked when they came to Palestine & found it full of people that they spoke out against the injustice.
All this is fact so why do you know nothing about it?...
George6360 1 week ago
@George6360 Clearly you don't . Interestingly you forgot about Abraham, Isaac , Jacob, Dan, King David, Solomon and the entire 2000 year history of Israel. Dumb ass
Oh...what people are you talking about again? Palestinian who? Never heard of them. Please provide one historical reference older than ww1 that can prove an ancient lineage of the so called Palestinians. If not, shut up
NOISLAMINUSA 1 week ago
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@NOISLAMINUSA < "The initial claim, often submitted by Zionist representatives, that they have a 'right' to Palestine, based on an occupation of two thousand years ago, can hardly be seriously considered."
George6360 1 week ago
@NOISLAMINUSA Why must anyone go back more than 100 years ? The region has been controlled by numerous different peoples, including Ancient Egyptians, Canaanites, Ancient Israelites, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Ancient Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, the Sunni Arab Caliphate, the Shia Fatimid Caliphate, Crusaders, Ayyubids, Mameluks, Ottomans, the British and modern Israelis and Palestinians.
The point is why should Israel be allowed to claim it after 2000 years
George6360 1 week ago
@NOISLAMINUSA Arabs are Semites just as Jews and the first clear use of the term Palestine to refer to the region synonymous with that defined in modern times was in 5th century BC Ancient Greece.Herodotus wrote of a 'district of Syria, called Palaistinê"
George6360 1 week ago
@George6360 It must make you feel better to think the land was empty and Jews did not steal and murder in the name of God..but the fact is so
George6360 1 week ago
@George6360 So are Jews. However Syria is not the Ancient land of Israel and Syrians. Are you suggesting that the Syrians migrated to Israel?
NOISLAMINUSA 1 week ago
@NOISLAMINUSA A 2000 year old claim on land is just retarded and many nations can claim rights if allowed to use this argument.(seems Israel is the only one to do this..hmm)
Palestine before WW1 was thought of as southern Syria by Arabs and full of people, with a rich culture and not a waste land as you fools think.
George6360 1 week ago
@George6360 So by your logic. The USA defeat of Iraq, Afghanistan which we could have kept as a war spoil and made American. Those countries would have had no historical argument for ownership of those lands. Since they lived there for thousands of years, it was all negated by our conquering them. Good idea! Perhaps America should start keeping what it wins, along with all of the oil and the hell with the people there. LOL Yeah you wouldn't complain about that?
NOISLAMINUSA 1 week ago
@NOISLAMINUSA Defeat ?..We are still fighting yes and could fight another 20 years I guess but we wont and the defeat is ours not the other way around.
George6360 1 week ago
@George6360 Again you establish your dogmatic Arab personality by avoiding direct questions you can not answer. Secondly....let me define defeat for you. When your country has no government, tax authority, infrastructure and a foreign power is occupying you. YOUR DEFEATED!! DUMB ASS
NOISLAMINUSA 1 week ago
@NOISLAMINUSA No , not defeated just occupied. The defeat is when you fight for 20 years and fail at your goal only to return home will no gain but the death of to many good men.
George6360 1 week ago
@George6360 PS I can't help but notice you never answered my Question Sharmoota. I think Sharmoota is much more offensive than fool, don't you habibi? If Arab culture is so rich, why does the world view the Middleast with contempt? hmmmm?
NOISLAMINUSA 1 week ago
@NOISLAMINUSA They don't..and many Jews in Israel even see the evil Zionist for what they are.
George6360 1 week ago
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learn some history: Philistines were a people who occupied the southern coast of Canaan at the beginning of the Iron Age (circa 1175 BC). According to the Bible, they ruled the five city-states (the "Philistine Pentapolis") of Gaza, Askelon, Ashdod, Ekron and Gath, from the Wadi Gaza in the south to the Yarqon River in the north.
crackz123 1 week ago
palestinians couldn't loss anything they didn't have.
israel is jewish. nevertheless it is willing for peacefull agreement with palestinians.
no one called the arabs in israel palestinians until 1964.
FLAMESandTEARS 2 weeks ago
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@FLAMESandTEARS learn some history: Philistines were a people who occupied the southern coast of Canaan at the beginning of the Iron Age (circa 1175 BC). According to the Bible, they ruled the five city-states (the "Philistine Pentapolis") of Gaza, Askelon, Ashdod, Ekron and Gath, from the Wadi Gaza in the south to the Yarqon River in the north.
crackz123 1 week ago
'Palestinians' is a war propaganda term invented in 1977 to kick Israel out of the Middle East. Shameful.
aznprodigy17 2 weeks ago 6
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@aznprodigy17 learn some history: Philistines were a people who occupied the southern coast of Canaan at the beginning of the Iron Age (circa 1175 BC). According to the Bible, they ruled the five city-states (the "Philistine Pentapolis") of Gaza, Askelon, Ashdod, Ekron and Gath, from the Wadi Gaza in the south to the Yarqon River in the north.
crackz123 1 week ago
@crackz123 did u wikipedia that? good! at least you looked up something better than most around here pushing their anti-Israel agendas. I agree with you and say they may have also been connected to Phoenicians.
aznprodigy17 1 week ago
@aznprodigy17 You lack of knowledge and historical fact is shameful.
George6360 1 week ago
@George6360 Wow... alright. You clearly have a liberal agenda...
aznprodigy17 1 week ago
@aznprodigy17 No not at all. I think the Zionist is just as bad as any other Terrorist, that's all
George6360 1 week ago
@George6360 who is for you a terrorist?
shota541 1 week ago
@shota541 Zionists are terrorist just the same as the Arabs who will not live in peace. Both are equal as evil.
George6360 1 week ago
@aznprodigy17 You seem to know all the Zionist propaganda very well. The fact is Israel is the only terrorist state that has been able to use a two thousand year old claim on land.
George6360 1 week ago
@George6360 Propaganda? You mean the fact that I know Israel's history better than you is propaganda? Maybe cos I study and pursue worthwhile ideals whilst you insist to make a particular group of people on the planet which coincidentally is a minority and also victim of the Holocaust; to be subject to your liberal garbage. Your ambition to terrorise a people who are already terrorised everyday by surrounding nations is quite inhumane and disturbing.
aznprodigy17 1 week ago
@aznprodigy17 Truth is that Jews created Israel by terror and murder and the victims of the Holocaust wasted no time doing the same evil to another people.
I find that quite inhumane and disturbing.
George6360 1 week ago
@George6360 Did anyone tell you that you're a neo-facist for saying that? Shame you can't treat another people group with respect and dignity after they were massacred in WWII. Maybe you never learnt about WWII or Adolf Hitler. How sad.
aznprodigy17 1 week ago
@aznprodigy17
no, it was a geographical term that existed for thousands of years. the country was always israel, though.
thetoughguy7 1 week ago
@thetoughguy7 Haha, I don't think I'm disagreeing with you. Because geographical terms don't dictate sovereign borders. If it did, it'll be like saying the Himalayas should be a country because its called the Himalayas. Btw The nation there was always Israel. I concur.
aznprodigy17 1 week ago
@aznprodigy17
oh well, the term 'palestine' was still around for many years. the country, however, never existed.
thetoughguy7 1 week ago
@thetoughguy7 It was still full of Arab people who lived and worked, had family, a rich culture etc...then the Zionist comes and starts stealing , killing etc.
Fuck Israel and the Zionist pig
George6360 1 week ago
@George6360
they already were allowed to keep half the land and live there. many of the arabs around the area are worthless and violent idiots. that is why israel won the six days war and took most of the area.
thetoughguy7 1 week ago
@thetoughguy7 Arabs knew that was a lie just like Zionist settlers of today lie,steal and kill.
George6360 1 week ago
@thetoughguy7 ...i think you just contradicted yourself. Did the country of Israel exist there or not? please make up your mind?
aznprodigy17 1 week ago
@aznprodigy17 Their was always Arabs and Jews living there, Arabs being Palestinian and Jews Israelites. Jews left the land then came back in 1948 by buying a portion of the land. Now thats when the problem come, The Jews stated to steel Palestinian lands and to settle there...now ask yourself why you're unwanted.How can you say the Palestinian were invented in 1977 if they have their own culture, dialogue, traditions, etc.. those things dont get invented in 29 years!
WakamolyTheGreatest 6 days ago
@WakamolyTheGreatest Arabs were never called Palestinian until 1977. As you said, there were Arabs and Jews. Yes. But the Palestinians as another separate culture?? Good joke. These "Palestinians" all have an Arabic culture/Jewish culture not a Palestinian one. So their culture was not invented, but rather, relabelled.
aznprodigy17 5 days ago
@aznprodigy17 FYI Arabs have different cultures depending of the country. Lebanese people dont have the same culture as Saudis, good joke!!
WakamolyTheGreatest 4 days ago
@WakamolyTheGreatest Hahaha, ty. Btw Lebanese (Maronites) are descended from Phoenicians, and they're the proper Lebs. Arab Lebs are just immigrants.
aznprodigy17 3 days ago
@aznprodigy17
How did you figure that out?
If it turned out that so-called Arab Palestenians are actually genetically of the same stock as Jews and Chrisitians why would you assume that Lebanon is andy different.?
You're not suggesting that Arabs came out in their hundreds of thousands from the Peninsula and invaded the Levant?
What likely happened is what also happened in Palestine.
A group embraced the language/culture of Arab invaders and others didn't.
Whocreatedgod 7 hours ago
@aznprodigy17
Bullshit.
Palestine has been always identified nominally in the days of the Ottoman Empire and that should've explained to you why the British also referred to Palestine by name when drawing up Balfour declaration and other documents.
Whocreatedgod 7 hours ago
anyone can just draw maps! this video is a joke.
there was NEVER an arab country where Israel is located.
there was never a nationality called "Palestinian"
actually, "Palestine" is how the Romans called the JEWISH state of Israel.
the so called "Palestinians" is an arab try to erase Israel off the map from within.
tmpq1lzy 2 weeks ago 5
@tmpq1lzy learn some history: Philistines were a people who occupied the southern coast of Canaan at the beginning of the Iron Age (circa 1175 BC). According to the Bible, they ruled the five city-states (the "Philistine Pentapolis") of Gaza, Askelon, Ashdod, Ekron and Gath, from the Wadi Gaza in the south to the Yarqon River in the north.
talking about the romans.. LOL
how people can talk shit, when they dont know anything about an issue..
thats history my friend.. u cant change it
crackz123 1 week ago
@tmpq1lzy District of Syria before the 5th century B.C...and called Palastine
George6360 1 week ago
@tmpq1lzy There's no such thing as Israel, got any proof? Heyy, my book says this land is mine lol, Justice always prevails, next time there won't be survivors.
ilfaraone7 1 week ago
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what a lie of a video. anyone can just draw maps. the truth is:
There was NEVER an arab regime in Israel excepts for the turkish empire who conquered it.
There was NEVER an arab country called "Palestine". "Palestine" was the name the Romans gave to Israel
tmpq1lzy 2 weeks ago
Palestinian will rise
jakir1979 2 weeks ago
Coptic loss of land stolen by Arab Muslims. The real Egyptians were not Arabs, never spoke Arabic and have nothing to do with today's Arab Muslims. The Coptics are the original owners of Egypt and deserve their own state. Pakistan is also land stolen from India. Hebron is the birthplace of Judaism and Jerusalem a Hebrew name and capital. The Islamic mosque is a desecration of this holy city as well as of ground zero in NY.
BYJOB 2 weeks ago
SCUMBAGS: Those who deny the holocaust and that their Haj Amin did not bow to Adolf. Those who dump huge Mosques on other peoples sacred sites - then deny the site was ever existing. Heaven has exposed them: making all their regime states crumble from within with no help from anyone. Mosques and invented Pals will not change abject lies to truth - it will expose you instead. Israel is a light unto the nations - everything Muslims tried to do to Israel is seen now across the world.
BYJOB 2 weeks ago
zionist jews love to victimize themselves
the fact is : without Hitler, Israel would exist !
armani87john 2 weeks ago
@armani87john Fact is Muslims sided with Hitler in W.W.II and formed the Islamic Brotherhood. It resulted in the greatest miracle: Israel was returned in the face of a host of Islamic nations proclaiming genocide on refugees fleeing Nazi Germany. Jerusalam has spat you out - take your silly mosque away from the Hebrew capital and from the sacred 9/11 site.
BYJOB 2 weeks ago
@BYJOB
LOL you,re a typical Zionist scumbag......
When you say that Muslim sided with Hitler you are proving that you're an ignorant and unpragmatic man.....
Oh and......did you know that many Jewish Bankers from America and Switzerland financed the Third Reich during the 1930's ?
You're a Zionist puppet my friend....
armani87john 2 weeks ago
That's "guess" you idiot.
Broadsmore 2 weeks ago
Questions for “Palestinians”:
1. What year did the nation of Palestine come into existence?
2. What were its national borders and what year did it cease to exist?
3. What currency did the nation of Palestine use and why is there no history of it?
4. Name one leader to the “nation of Palestine” prior to Yasser Aryfat.
Broadsmore 2 weeks ago
End Islamic lies. Palestine was the name given to Judea, the Jewish homeland - not an Islamic or Arab land. The Jerusalem Post was called The Palestinian Post till Arafat emerged and stole this name. The Mosque dumped in Jerusalem on the Jewish temple site is a crime by those who have no fear of the true God and who deny their crimes with impudence before the world. Muslims also attack the Gospels when they deny the Jewish temple - the Gospels say Jesus visited this temple.
BYJOB 2 weeks ago
@BYJOB
you're a Zionist puppet.....
armani87john 2 weeks ago
@armani87john
Yes, proudly a Zionist puppet. Moses was the first Zionist. Muslims lie to their people telling them Moses was a Muslim. And all Muslims open their mouths wide for such lies. Who's the puppet?!
BYJOB 2 weeks ago
And you are wondering why Hitler killed so many jews?
JOE1986D 2 weeks ago
thank you! This video is a real eye-opener!!
Leon2101 2 weeks ago
@Leon2101
these maps contain fallacies that you should investigate. There is more to the story than this misleading map. For example, Jordan owned West Bank, which the 1886 map shows as being labeled Judea, and Egypt owned Gaza, yet both are labeled as Palestinian land. Is it Egyption/Jordanian or Palestinian? You must seek out all facts and research both sides with a sincere and objective mindset. Jews also bought the land. There is substantial evidence to prove this. Open your eyes.
cobey321 2 weeks ago
@cobey321 Oh thanks for your feedback =D so Jews actually bought all of that land? Jews bought almost 95% of Palestinian land?? or did they take most of it by force and murdered thousands in their wake? help me here!
Leon2101 2 weeks ago
@Leon2101
I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or not. Jews starting buying land as early as the 1880's, way before the holocaust. Do you really view Jews as murdering people in cold blood for land?!? Let me show you something... google the Peel Commission Report
Chapter 4 of the Peel Commission Report in 1937 (Still before the Holocaust):
"(5) ... the continued Jewish purchase of land;"
cobey321 2 weeks ago
@Leon2101
Chapter 5:
"The Arab population shows a remarkable increase since 1920, and it has had some share in the increased prosperity of Palestine. Many Arab landowners have benefited from the sale of land and the profitable investment of the purchase money. The fellaheen are better off on the whole than they were in 1920."
cobey321 2 weeks ago
@Leon2101
Chapter 9:
"The Arab claims that the Jews have obtained too large a proportion of good land cannot be maintained. Much of the land now carrying orange groves was sand dunes or swamps and uncultivated when it was bought."
cobey321 2 weeks ago
@Leon2101
They bought so much land they tried to limit it -
Chapter 9:
"The Palestine Order in Council and, if necessary, the Mandate should be amended to permit of legislation empowering the High Commissioner to prohibit the transfer of land in any stated area to Jews, so that the obligation to safeguard the right and position of the Arabs may be carried out".
cobey321 2 weeks ago
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@Leon2101
Here is your inarguable evidence. And the posts below this are the Peel Commission Report of 1937, google it.
"The quantity of Arab land offered for sale was far in excess of the Jewish ability to purchase." (Morris p 111)
"A professional analysis of land purchases between 1880 and 1948 established 3/4 of the plots purchased by Jews were from mega-landowners rather than those who worked the soil." (Abraham Grannot, The Land System in Palestine: History and Structure, p278)
cobey321 2 weeks ago
@Leon2101
Also the expansion in the 1948 map was a result of instigated war - SEVEN armies declared war on Israel after they declared independence, to destroy it, to annihilate it (Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Yemen), but Israel won. Ask yourself this question, why did the other armies need to get involved if this was strictly a Palestinian problem?
cobey321 2 weeks ago
@cobey321 You are going into way too much details, and you didn't answer my question.
Anyway, i believe the video speaks for itself.
Leon2101 2 weeks ago
@Leon2101
Too much details? Sir, I did answer your question by showing you the "details". My answer was this: Jews did buy land from as far back as 1880. They did not massacre the Arabs in their wake. They did not buy 95% of the land. The expansion was a result of instigated wars. In 1948, 7 armies attacked the newly established state hoping to destroy it, but Israel won. In 1967, Israel got land as a result of another instigated war from Jordan and Egypt, not Palestine. Is this ok?
cobey321 2 weeks ago
@cobey321 perfect, thats a much better answer. All I wanted to know was that they didn't buy most of the land =)
Leon2101 1 week ago
Ridiculous video:
Before the British mandate the region belonged to the Ottoman Empire. There was never a Palestinian State, the region was scarcely populated with no organized leadership.
As far as I know, the UN partition was never put to practice, Israel accepted it, the arabs didn't. There was never an organized group to form the Palestinian State at that time.
Ricardome2 2 weeks ago
I'm curious ... why on the old map of palestine from 1886 were will rise in the future the west bank... written in capital letters JUDE???
okrasok 2 weeks ago
Jews buy the land from the Arabs in that Territory... its like Russia will tell America to give back Alaska to the Russian people. too late to regret now the arabs got the cash, but dont wanna let go of the land so they attack and cry if get hit back
BL00DeMoN 2 weeks ago
Viva Palestine
292929292929100 3 weeks ago
Don't let Arabs sell you stories:
1. The British mandate owned around HALF of the land in green, not any "Palestinian".
2. The Palis lost land due to their war on the Jews.
3. The amount of property, land & wealth that was stolen from Jews in Arab lands in the last century, is FAR GREATER. It was stolen with the false pretext of the war with the Zionist Jews in the Land of Israel. The Islamofacists saw ALL the Jews in their land liable.
Do they really want to settle this historic score?
danny1st 3 weeks ago
@danny1st
Islamofascism has been revived thanks to Israel's denigration and robbery of Palestinian land and people. Zionist propaganda would have you believe the Arabs just decided to hun the Israelis for game.
They waged the war in full knowledge of its futility as it was not Israel they were battling but the might of its Western financiers that toyed around with the land and identity of Palestine while it was under their care to the give to Jews. Now it has got out of hand.
Whocreatedgod 3 weeks ago
@Whocreatedgod
Come on I just proved to you that the land wasn't robbed. Jews bought the land. Buying is not robbing, my friend. Ask yourself this question: How do Jews, most of which who are coming immediately from the Holocaust, "rob" land from a majority of Muslims? How did a minority weak and hungry Jewish population rob a majority Muslim population? Why would Jews steal land from someone? How does this make sense in your mind?
cobey321 3 weeks ago
Actually, Jewish migration to the region dates all the way back to 1880, and yes, it was in the form of buying lands. It was mostly from the east Europe side, fleeing from persecution. And this was done individually, so there wasn't any possible way to take any land by force anyway.
Ricardome2 2 weeks ago
@Whocreatedgod
Secondly, financier or not - the fact is that the Jews were vastly outnumbered and were attacked from every side. There were no American troops or European troops. And yes they did hunt the Israelis for game. Your good friend Haj Amin al Husseini collaborated with Hitler and said, ""I declare a holy war, my Moslem brothers! Murder the Jews! Murder them all!" Why murder them all if all you want is to reclaim land? This is hatred at its purest, my friend.
cobey321 3 weeks ago
@cobey321
Nonesense...why didn't the Arabs round off all the vast numbers of Jews in Morocco or Yemen?
Saying Haj Amin my friend? What next? Haj Osama Bin Hitler was my idol????
Yesteday you were trying to reinvent the definition of my identity, the day before you were claiming Palestenians did not exist....what next?
Your historical dishonesty is shocking.
We had no problem with Jews you garbage Propagandist.
Why didn't we hunt Moroccan or Yemeni Jews?
Because they are not land muggers !
Whocreatedgod 2 weeks ago
@Whocreatedgod
The Jews in those countries, which also include Algeria, Tunisia, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Egypt, and others had communities established for thousands of years with strong traditions. When word got out that the Israeli state's existence was in jeopardy, the Jewish populations of those countries were exiled. This is unarguable. I don't know what your argument is. These are historical , documented, well-known, yet ignored facts. Type in any of what I said in google.
cobey321 2 weeks ago
@Whocreatedgod
You got me so angry, I messed up too. They didn't leave all at the same time, they were forced to leave over the course of 20 years.
cobey321 2 weeks ago
@Whocreatedgod
Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries -
"was a mass departure, flight and expulsion of Jews, primarily of Sephardi and Mizrahi background, from Arab and Muslim countries, from 1948 until the early 1970s. Though Jewish migration from Middle Eastern and North African communities began in the late 19th century, and Jews began fleeing some Arab countries in the 1930s and early 1940s, it did not become significant until the 1948 Arab-Israeli War."
cobey321 2 weeks ago
@Whocreatedgod
Come man, you know I'm not making this up. The Jews in those countries were subject to sever antisemitism.
"From 1948 until the early 1970s, 800,000–1,000,000 Jews left, fled, or were expelled from their homes in Arab countries; 260,000 of them reached Israel between 1948 and 1951; and 600,000 by 1972." (Malka Hillel Shulewitz, The Forgotten Millions: The Modern Jewish Exodus from Arab Lands, Continuum 2001, pp. 139 and 155)
cobey321 2 weeks ago
@Whocreatedgod
One example: In 1963 The Algerian nationality law of newly independent Algeria granted citizenship only to Muslims - those related to fathers and paternal grandfathers had Muslim personal status could become citizens of the new state. All Jewish and Christian residents were driven into exile. The Jewish community was considered indigenous to Algeria, as it had been in Algeria long before Islam. It could trace its presence to the year 586 BCE.
cobey321 2 weeks ago
@Whocreatedgod
The below is in reference to Algerian Nationality Code, Law no. 63-69 of Mar. 27, 1963, section 34
cobey321 2 weeks ago
1. Palestine/Palestina was never a country, it was a region.
2. Your video is false propaganda. The borders from 2000 are wrong.
3. Make love, not war!! Start there.
jhotyborge 3 weeks ago
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paulspydar 3 weeks ago
So in the 1948-1967 part, you are saying that Jordan and Egypt are Palestinian land right? The West Bank and Gaza belonged to Jordan and Egypt at the time, not 'Palestine'.
cobey321 3 weeks ago
This is an awful misleading and inaccurate representation
1) in 1946 there were not even 1 million people living in the land, it was mostly empty.
2) The 1948 plan shows 1/2 the land for Jews, but notice how the bottom part is the Negev, which is all desert, no one lives in the desert. The entire Palestinian part contains lush and green.
3) in 1948, Israel was attacked by 7 armies and pushed back the armies
4) Israel took the West Bank and Gaza from Egypt and Jordan, respectively, not Palestine.
cobey321 3 weeks ago
@cobey321
Point number 1 is probably a lie.
Israeli negotiators till this date deny the 2 million (originally around 800,000) Palestenian refugees the right to return. But they never deny the figures.
Where did you think these people were living? Floating in the air above?
If you want to push forward your historical fabrications make sure Israeli government change their tone and decide in fact there were never Palestinian refugees because no on lives in the land...
Whocreatedgod 3 weeks ago
@Whocreatedgod
Sir, you were correct, I apologize. However, the right of return is bogus since they were encouraged to leave. I can show you.
Here's the facts, no fabrications:
1922: Total - 700,000 Muslims - 589,000 Christians - 71,000 Jews - 84,000
1931: Total - 1,033,000 Muslims - 760,000 Christians - 89,000 Jews - 175,000
1947: Total - 1,977,000 Muslims - 1,181,000 Christians - 143,000 Jews - 630,000
Interim Report on the Civil Administration of Palestine
cobey321 3 weeks ago
@Whocreatedgod
According to Dr. Walid al-Qamhawi, a former member of the Executive Committee of the PLO, “it was collective fear, moral disintegration and chaos in every field that exiled the Arabs of Tiberias, Haifa and dozens of towns and villages” (Joseph Schechtman, The Refugee in the World, NY: A.S. Barnes and Co., 1963, p. 186).
cobey321 3 weeks ago
@cobey321
It is interesting that a cohesive society of Christians and Muslims all of a sudden decided to become fearful, chaotic and morally disintegrated?
This happens when?
Following decades of forced and rapid Demographic hijacking of Palestine by Jewish immigration.
Or you think it was just a coincidence that they just decided to pack up an go.
If that were the case then the right of return is bogus.
But it is not so I suggest you retract that arrogant unjust statement.
Whocreatedgod 3 weeks ago
@Whocreatedgod
1) "Cohesive society"? Sir, that is a false statement. "Arab-Muslim population was transient and migratory" as described by J.L. Burkhardt, a local authority, saying "few individuals die in the same village in which they were born. Families are continually moving from one place to another... "
cobey321 3 weeks ago
@cobey321
And so what?
The Ottoman Empire encompassed a huge Geographic entity.
The fact that they are cohesive is borne explicitly by genetic studies such as this one
Nebel et al., "High-resolution Y chromosome haplotypes of Israeli and Palestinian Arabs reveal geographic substructure and substantial overlap with haplotypes of Jews." Human Genetics Vol. 107, No. 6, (December 2000), pp. 630–641
In fact they are so cohesive they overlap significantly with historically isolated Jewish groups!
Whocreatedgod 3 weeks ago
@Whocreatedgod
Sir, do you even know what a haplotype is? I am a medical student. You would be interested to learn that every human being in the world has 99% of the same exact DNA and less than 1% separates us apart.
cobey321 3 weeks ago
@Whocreatedgod
Sir, do you know what cohesive means? Cohesive means unified. That genetic study does not reveal that they are cohesive, and the different ethnologic backgrounds and migratory tendencies are the opposite of cohesive.
cobey321 3 weeks ago
@Whocreatedgod
2) The population was of various backgrounds. the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica described the population as comprising widely differing "ethnological" backgrounds speaking no less than "fifty languages", including Kurds, Persians, Sudanese, Algerians, Samaritans, Tatars, Georgians, and others.
cobey321 3 weeks ago
@cobey321
Not-relevant.
I said a cohesive society of Muslims and Christians.
Be it Algerians or Samaritans(really?).
Whocreatedgod 3 weeks ago
@Whocreatedgod
Cohesive means unified and well-integrated. They were not unified or well-integrated. They came from other countries from within the Ottoman Empire. And when in Palestine they did not stay in one place. They moved around a lot. That is not a cohesive my friend, that is a nomadic society.
cobey321 3 weeks ago
@Whocreatedgod
3) "Rapid demographic hijacking"? That is also a false statement. Jews purchased land from the Arabs. "The quantity of Arab land offered for sale was far in excess of the Jewish ability to purchase." (Morris p 111) A professional analysis of land purchases between 1880 and 1948 established 3/4 of the plots purchased by Jews were from mega-landowners rather than those who worked the soil. (Abraham Grannot, The Land System in Palestine: History and Structure, p278)
cobey321 3 weeks ago
@cobey321
Till this date settlements are put up on illegally procured land.
The vile nature of Israel's heavy handed enforcement of its identity through intimidation, settlement, mass economic and military punishment on Palestine and surrounding countries such as Lebanon is an embarrassment to your narrative.
It is not Demographic hijacking...it's Demographic raping of the geography of the Middle East of a Jewish identity that has disappeared for millennia out of no fault of the Palestenian
Whocreatedgod 3 weeks ago
@Whocreatedgod
I'm sorry sir, but you are wrong again. The settlements are not illegal because the land was taken from Jordan, not Palestine. In fact, it's interesting that between 1948-1967 no one complained about Jordanian occupation of the West Bank.
cobey321 3 weeks ago
@Whocreatedgod
4) They were fearful, choatic, and morally disintegrated because Arab leaders were calling for war and encouragement of leaving, as I just showed previously.
cobey321 3 weeks ago
@Whocreatedgod
“The Arab States encouraged the Palestine Arabs to leave their homes temporarily in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies,” according to the Jordanian newspaper Filastin, (February 19, 1949).
One refugee quoted in the Jordan newspaper, Ad Difaa (September 6, 1954), said: “The Arab government told us: Get out so that we can get in. So we got out, but they did not get in.”
cobey321 3 weeks ago
@Whocreatedgod
Habib Issa in Al Hoda (June 8, 1951). ““The Secretary-General of the Arab League, Azzam Pasha said all the millions the Jews had spent on land and economic development would be easy booty ... a simple matter to throw Jews into the Mediterranean... Brotherly advice was given to the Arabs of Palestine to leave their land, homes and property and to stay temporarily in neighboring fraternal states, lest the guns of the invading Arab armies mow them down.”
cobey321 3 weeks ago
@Whocreatedgod
In his memoirs, Haled al Azm, the Syrian Prime Minister in 1948-49, also admitted the Arab role in persuading the refugees to leave:
“Since 1948 we have been demanding the return of the refugees to their homes. But we ourselves are the ones who encouraged them to leave. Only a few months separated our call to them to leave and our appeal to the United Nations to resolve on their return” (The Memoirs of Haled al Azm, Beirut, 1973, Part 1, pp. 386-387).
cobey321 3 weeks ago
@Whocreatedgod
Who gave such orders? Leaders like such as Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Said, who declared: “We will smash the country with our guns and obliterate every place the Jews seek shelter in. The Arabs should conduct their wives and children to safe areas until the fighting has died down” (Myron Kaufman, The Coming Destruction of Israel, NY: The American Library Inc., 1970, pp. 26-27)
cobey321 3 weeks ago
5) Where is the map of Jordan occupying the West Bank?
6) Where's the map of 1937?
7) Where's the map of 1917?
cobey321 3 weeks ago
"You can guest what happens next"... You mean "guess"?