And o yea since the first person singular indicative "I" only exists in English (the French has Je, Spanish yo, German Ich, etc...) consider my musing to be just another metaphor lol
to ask why does he exist and not "in the purity of Non-Being", meaning why does he (or anyone) exist instead of there being nothing. Inspired by hearing Meshuggah's I ep lol
by the way...of I'm not overreaching...didn't the monolith look like an "I"? Lacan once quoted a French poet Paul Valery in stating ""I" am in the place from which "the universe is a flaw in the purity of Non-Being is vociferated".The primates were in the "purity of Non-Being" no? But then they were confronted with the "Nothing", ("the universe as a flaw") . Isn't "I" stated twice in the beginning of the song's speech?..perhaps the fact that one is confronted with one's existence begs him
(signifying it) bringing his ego back to the center of being, of his enframed humanistic view of the world. But as Heidegger spoke of the dangers of this kind of thinking, so the song itself quips: Let no misled men remove it. Removing the stone would remove the "ghastly memorial"...the memorial which reminds man of his limits and mortality. But man's desire remains nonetheless to remove it (to symbolize the nothing, to enframe his surroundings). The consequences of this will be seen when man
Language and consciousness. He will signify all and in doing so attempt to "repress" the phallus, "repress" the event where man was confronted with his own possibility of non-existence. However, the phallus still rests as the anchoring point of his signifying chain (meaning) and man's desire to conquer all (or in heideggerian terms enframe nature), his desire will be characterized, equated, by this unconscious desire to re-confront "the nothing" (repetition-automatism) and conquering it (signif
And pointing back to the song, the event that the phallus symbolizes happened pre-lingually so it cannot be said (it has not been visited by the sun, nor has it been carved by an iron knife). The ramifications of this are immense. After all, the phallus, or "raised stone" are identified with the penis, and symbolically with the anchoring point of meaning. When the primate threw the bone to the sky, he declared man's mission, to conquer "the nothing" with that which the phallus gave to man, lan
This process enters our consciousness as "the phallus" the stone raised (raising symbolizing a change, a "sublation") as a ghastly memorial (ghastly the sublation happened before language so it cannot be said....but since it marked man's evolution and his destiny it always rests in our memory...which brings it back to the other interpretation I gave for the astronaut).
them to be confronted with the possibility of death (or more technically the possibility of not being-there (dasein)). So what happened: The process of signification, of language began. The Primates became conscious of their being, being shown by their evolution. How? Spirit (Hegel). Non-being (the primates) when confronted with the one which is not ("The Nothing") is forced to Become being, to exist.
The ancestors warrant a more general explanation since this happened before the advent of language. Our ancestors had a close encounter with the monolith. Did they see anything? No they didn't see any particular thing, since "things" only exist to the human observer when they enter into language ("What exists is what can be said"), they saw what couldnt be signified.... They saw "Nothing"....this "Nothing" filled them with "distress"...since whatever it was forced
I (God again) raise this stone (this symptom or phallus- the signifiers of the Other's desire) as a ghastly memorial (since like being the true meaning of the symptoms will be hidden by using defense mechanisms). This could explain the astronaut.
Because the linguistic nature of the unconscious makes it that whatever trauma experienced will come back into our experience later in life. Or to put it in the words of the song...I (God...our unconscious) ceremonially ( using linguistic "rituals" of metaphor and metonymy) predicted (since the mechanism of repetition automatism ensures that the repressed) your distress (...will return to consciousness).
In the case of our ancestors and the astronaut, the "ghastly memorial" is what grounds our unconscious, and like the phallus it escapes man's grasp (it has not been visited by the sun, nor been carved by an iron knife)....the concept of ceremony gives us the sense of the divine since usually whatever escaped man's understanding was attributable to "God". Lacan once stated that God is [the] unconscious. The reason why God can "ceremonially predict our distress" is
I don't know if this is the place but maybe one can make parallels between this song and 2001: A Space Odyssey. After all when our ancestors saw the monolith (this stone as a ghastly memorial) and when Hal felt its presence...they were filled with "distress"....this anxiety forcing our ancestors to evolve (the stone as the lacanian phallus) and making Hal realize her freedom (the monolith as Heidegger's "nothing"). It's ghastly because like Being, it likes to hide itself. In the case of our anc
@goldenarms12 I had the same thoughts too. Sort of. But I also like to think the stone is an actual monolith somewhere in Iceland and it stands there as a message to man, that nature and the bestial aspect of it, and of man himself, will never be tamed.
In an interview von Meilenwald said that one thing he wanted for his next release was to make the guitars more 'vicious' but how you make them more vicious than 1:38 i have no fucking idea - so good!
Oh my God...
TwilightCodex 1 month ago
7:40 !!!!
zacjar12 3 months ago
how can anyone dislike this song?
sophiesepe 7 months ago 2
@sophiesepe anybody that does not understand does not become enlightened by this reality.
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wizardmansir 7 months ago
The "lead" on 1:38 is simply mindblowing.
JCTranscended 10 months ago
@JCTranscended I think it's a bass.
This is just... astonishing.
WolfgangWhiplash 10 months ago
And o yea since the first person singular indicative "I" only exists in English (the French has Je, Spanish yo, German Ich, etc...) consider my musing to be just another metaphor lol
goldenarms12 10 months ago
to ask why does he exist and not "in the purity of Non-Being", meaning why does he (or anyone) exist instead of there being nothing. Inspired by hearing Meshuggah's I ep lol
goldenarms12 10 months ago
by the way...of I'm not overreaching...didn't the monolith look like an "I"? Lacan once quoted a French poet Paul Valery in stating ""I" am in the place from which "the universe is a flaw in the purity of Non-Being is vociferated".The primates were in the "purity of Non-Being" no? But then they were confronted with the "Nothing", ("the universe as a flaw") . Isn't "I" stated twice in the beginning of the song's speech?..perhaps the fact that one is confronted with one's existence begs him
goldenarms12 10 months ago
The consequences of this will be seen when man attempts to conquer the ultimate nothing, Space.
goldenarms12 11 months ago
@goldenarms12 Interesting explanation. Well done...
TeRRorBLD 11 months ago
(signifying it) bringing his ego back to the center of being, of his enframed humanistic view of the world. But as Heidegger spoke of the dangers of this kind of thinking, so the song itself quips: Let no misled men remove it. Removing the stone would remove the "ghastly memorial"...the memorial which reminds man of his limits and mortality. But man's desire remains nonetheless to remove it (to symbolize the nothing, to enframe his surroundings). The consequences of this will be seen when man
goldenarms12 11 months ago
Language and consciousness. He will signify all and in doing so attempt to "repress" the phallus, "repress" the event where man was confronted with his own possibility of non-existence. However, the phallus still rests as the anchoring point of his signifying chain (meaning) and man's desire to conquer all (or in heideggerian terms enframe nature), his desire will be characterized, equated, by this unconscious desire to re-confront "the nothing" (repetition-automatism) and conquering it (signif
goldenarms12 11 months ago
And pointing back to the song, the event that the phallus symbolizes happened pre-lingually so it cannot be said (it has not been visited by the sun, nor has it been carved by an iron knife). The ramifications of this are immense. After all, the phallus, or "raised stone" are identified with the penis, and symbolically with the anchoring point of meaning. When the primate threw the bone to the sky, he declared man's mission, to conquer "the nothing" with that which the phallus gave to man, lan
goldenarms12 11 months ago
This process enters our consciousness as "the phallus" the stone raised (raising symbolizing a change, a "sublation") as a ghastly memorial (ghastly the sublation happened before language so it cannot be said....but since it marked man's evolution and his destiny it always rests in our memory...which brings it back to the other interpretation I gave for the astronaut).
goldenarms12 11 months ago
them to be confronted with the possibility of death (or more technically the possibility of not being-there (dasein)). So what happened: The process of signification, of language began. The Primates became conscious of their being, being shown by their evolution. How? Spirit (Hegel). Non-being (the primates) when confronted with the one which is not ("The Nothing") is forced to Become being, to exist.
goldenarms12 11 months ago
The ancestors warrant a more general explanation since this happened before the advent of language. Our ancestors had a close encounter with the monolith. Did they see anything? No they didn't see any particular thing, since "things" only exist to the human observer when they enter into language ("What exists is what can be said"), they saw what couldnt be signified.... They saw "Nothing"....this "Nothing" filled them with "distress"...since whatever it was forced
goldenarms12 11 months ago
I (God again) raise this stone (this symptom or phallus- the signifiers of the Other's desire) as a ghastly memorial (since like being the true meaning of the symptoms will be hidden by using defense mechanisms). This could explain the astronaut.
goldenarms12 11 months ago
Because the linguistic nature of the unconscious makes it that whatever trauma experienced will come back into our experience later in life. Or to put it in the words of the song...I (God...our unconscious) ceremonially ( using linguistic "rituals" of metaphor and metonymy) predicted (since the mechanism of repetition automatism ensures that the repressed) your distress (...will return to consciousness).
goldenarms12 11 months ago
In the case of our ancestors and the astronaut, the "ghastly memorial" is what grounds our unconscious, and like the phallus it escapes man's grasp (it has not been visited by the sun, nor been carved by an iron knife)....the concept of ceremony gives us the sense of the divine since usually whatever escaped man's understanding was attributable to "God". Lacan once stated that God is [the] unconscious. The reason why God can "ceremonially predict our distress" is
goldenarms12 11 months ago
I don't know if this is the place but maybe one can make parallels between this song and 2001: A Space Odyssey. After all when our ancestors saw the monolith (this stone as a ghastly memorial) and when Hal felt its presence...they were filled with "distress"....this anxiety forcing our ancestors to evolve (the stone as the lacanian phallus) and making Hal realize her freedom (the monolith as Heidegger's "nothing"). It's ghastly because like Being, it likes to hide itself. In the case of our anc
goldenarms12 11 months ago
@goldenarms12 I had the same thoughts too. Sort of. But I also like to think the stone is an actual monolith somewhere in Iceland and it stands there as a message to man, that nature and the bestial aspect of it, and of man himself, will never be tamed.
judassab 7 months ago
I play double bass beneath my desk for the entire 10 minutes of this song.
OhOneNine 11 months ago
In an interview von Meilenwald said that one thing he wanted for his next release was to make the guitars more 'vicious' but how you make them more vicious than 1:38 i have no fucking idea - so good!
SimplyGebus 1 year ago
fucking awesome
FOREVERGRIM88 1 year ago
Alex is a pure fucking genious period. From Nagelfar to The Ruins of Beverast amazing stuff.
Frozzd 1 year ago
Great band.. great album!
samrit86 2 years ago
masterpiece
sidhyarth 2 years ago
fucking masterpiece
IscariahOcculta 2 years ago
massive.
iceomat 2 years ago
favorited.. cool stuff
Shaitan111 2 years ago 8
Love this song. Just amazing atmosphere.
yinzx7 2 years ago 19