I bet your a dumbass on welfare. That's what things like adderal does to people. I dont believe you ever got through school. because of psychiatry people with the imaginary illness of add or adhd never succeed. If it wernt for dexedrin, Id have my high school diploma.
I do not support cults like Scientology, however the pharmaceutical profession, doctors as a hole do not have your best interest at heart but rather their own pocket book. Dr's use to care about patients years ago, now they just hand out pills they profit from. what U think is working, is not really working but fooling U into believing it. they made U believe U have an illness when U don't. ADHD is a sign of genius & pills are suppressing that for you. it's curable but needs to be mastered
This video is very disturbing. This ego-maniac is viciously defending his narcotic addiction which he feels is justified because it is prescribed by a Dr.
Don't worry drug addicts, you will continue to get your drugs despite anything that scientology does. I wish my doctor would prescribe me adderall. It is the only thing that gives me the ability to play my guitar or reading long books. Everyone agrees I am better on it but doctors refuse to give it to me so I hate people who get it +attitude!
Its easy to tell someone thirsty...'lets not drink water'...when you yourself are not thirsty. It's easy to tell someone under pain or sickness...'lets not use medication'...when you are completely healthy. Let people judge by themselves what is good for them.
well, if their way works then it works for them. All people are different. ADHD drugs cause a drug reaction in me, like a drug addicts' I'm pretty sensitive, so anything will yield dramatic effects in me. Adderall in you was probably cheating.
Glad to hear you've gotten "wins" from psych drugs. Scientology is insane. Also, there is such a thing as overdrugging a people, and I do worry about that as well.
Can't argue with this, though: if it works, it works. :)
your video is a tad ignorant... it's not good to be on just medication with out cognitive treatment, thats actually a huge problem in the us today, shoving drugs at the problem and not trying to solve it at the source. i had teenage depression and i was cured through only cognitive and behavioral therapy, no drugs - i totally support you with your rampage against scientology, they are truly the ignorant ones. also i don't mean to offend you tho, adhd is indeed a serious medical brain imbalance
@blueeyedbeauty44 Very well said. I could not agree more, there are many problems that can be treated using CBT, but there are also many problems that require the use of medications. It really depends on the person.
@IPI001 Mmm there is plenty of evidence to support the neurotransmitter theories behind many mental illnesses. It is difficult to gather this information though due to the complexity of the human brain.
Although I agree that not all medical practitioners conduct unscrupulous activities, it is a matter of fact that drug companies pay many to prescribe drugs before considering any alternate treatments. My neurologist prescribed me even more depression pills when I said, "It makes me happy." He replied, "Happy?! Happy is good." I'm now on 6 different, daily prescriptions, isn't that cool?! I'm going to get a second-opinion to see if I can get off the drugs.
Perhaps you only directed this at scientology. But all to often anyone that questions paxil or drugging homeless people is attacked as a scientologist. It's a talking point for pro-psychiatry people.
I have known a number of people claiming they have found some great psychiatric drug only to complain it 'stopped working' or ended up giving them terrible side effects.
It is your life but know that psychiatrists may not always see it as your choice what drugs they give you.
taking adderall everyday will make anyones grades go up. it makes anyone focus. not just people with adhd. im not a scientologist, but you dont need to bash other peoples beliefs, no matter how different they are from yours. different things work for different people. grow up
Im in my 20s and enjoy an active life in the film industry and protest a dangerous cult with my freetime. And again... my general health dr prescribes it to me... i do not see a psych
You took the time to ask me a question, and I'll answer it in two parts.
First, I'm smarter than you have the mental capability to realize.
Second, I do get tired of being wrong about some things, but if opposing someone who tries to kill psychiatry, a practice which has saved millions of lives, my own included, is wrong, then I don't want to be right.
I have adhd too. And i totally agree with this vid. I wish that people could learn how to READ and LISTEN before they speak against psyciatry! Before i got my meds, I was SO NEAR TO CRASH! School was a disaster, I could never concentrate, Never socialize, But now, Everything just WORKS, Can you explain that to me, Why everything just got better when i got my medicine?
because that is the affect of amphetamines. focus and outwardly social. everyone gets that from adderall. its not so much a cure as it is a crutch. its easier to take a pill that will make you focus than it is to learn to focus. people overcome disorders withouth pills. pills are simply easier
@Retsknarp dont you fucking tell me that i can do this without pills. dont you tell me that my medication is a crutch. how fucking dare you judge me. who are you to judge me taking medication for my disorder!
....i dont see a psychiatrist. If you truely dismiss this... you prove to me and youtube that you are brainwashed. I am too poor to see a psychiatrist or psychologist... you can believe in scientology... i dont give a shit and its your right to believe so. The fact of the matter is that I was diagnosed by a general health care provider. I hope you wake up and if you need help getting out do not hesitate to ask. A lot of general healthcare providers acknowledge ADHD
One of the interesting things about my psychiatrist and my psychologoist is that they said ok you're extremely over medicated, Even though you have such and such illness why dont you try not taking any medication and I havent taken any medication since.
I think Scientolgists have spread alot of misinformation about psychiatry because all I ever do with either specialist is I sit down and talk for about an hour, they never suggest anything, they listen more then anything.
haj. you are kind of wright about scientology .. but than from your side I wouldn take such a stand FOR psychiatrist in general .. the facts about psychiatry are there still standing firm. it is pure busnies.. . without prof that is beneficial.. what if you take your self now from that pill. maybe you will feel great. what if you maybe dont need that ... soo .. take care man
I have just been watching an interview with Tommy Davis who says regarding taking anti seizure medication "Absolutley whenever your dealing with any sort of physical condition this isn't the kind of thing that is even an option this is mandatory! if you have a conditioned diagnosed by a doctor the person is going to take it just like anybody else would".......Hmmm not sure whether you guys perhaps would like some time to get your story straight then come back to us.
what are you on about? i've meet people who smoke crack and say it helps them feel better but that dont make it right... surely you should still get to the bottom of the problem rather than drug yourself so bad you just dont care anymore... plus i dont see any factual information here.
haha.... i dont see psychs... and i know TONS of people whove been on prozac and paxil for longer than ive been alive.... and they too are great.
you sir, are the brainwashed one. and why do you think im a mess? haha. you dont even know me. im in hollywood working on my dream project and havent been this happy and focused...since... ever
fuck you fucking asshole, psychiatric drugs are not ok, ok ? psychiatry causes people to harm themselves, you should back off, you're a sick person, under a fucking nick name
Does anyone else remember Tom Cruise criticizing Kirstie Alley for taking Post-Partum Depression drugs?? lol..now he claims that "Scientology requires you to get medical help"..lol..their "church" (business) is worried about losing some lawsuits..just like any true business.
scientology is a cult - I am glad you are successful & took the meds that worked for you. If you are completely off your meds, dont be surprised if you ever have to go back on them for a while or forever.
Adderall is one of those take as you need medications. You take it, it kicks in within 15-30 minutes, and wears off within hours. Hardly any withdrawal syndrome. However, I take it rarely now... but i def. wouldn't be where i am without Adderall.
I am so sorry that this cult has taken over your friends life & has left you bitter. Please read the book of John in the bible. The bible by the way as you probably know, is the #1 Best Seller of all time. Not the crap stated in the temporary best seller sometime in the 70s or 80s, the short lived, book from ron hubbard-dianetics that should be banned like oj's book. Jesus Christ, son of God is the only true way to happiness. God Bless You!
Firstly, psychiatrists do not take blood samples to see what chemicals might or might not be missing before prescribing their drugs. Everybody's brain chemistry is different (as is every other biological factor) - but the medication is identical. If the meds suit you for now, good for you. If you end up a retard due to the meds in the future you'll have no-one to blame. Your beliefs are too rigid and your world view too narrow to understand what you're dealing with and suffering from. Enough.
1.Neither to regular doctors... nobody does, until you report a problem.
2. I have been on Adderall for about 12 years...and Amphetamine was around in the 1800s... and users who take it normally (longterm) dont wind up retarded... unless you abuse it.
How are my views to narrow.. i said its not perfect and what ever works for that individual is fine, but for the cult to try and ban it is RETARDED and IGNORANT.
I believe your view is too narrow from prolonged brainwashing by cult. Happy laborday
IhateH1pp13s- Einstein wrote, 'Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.' In other words, jumping to conclusions without the facts is idiotic, like, for instance, jumping to the conclusion that I belong to any cult. Not only am I not a scientologist but I don't follow ANY religion, be it established and sanctioned by the state or not. I am an intelligent human being giving my opinion on a subject in which I have much experience. YOU, on the other hand, can't even spell. QED
Maybe it's because I am yelling at Scientologists who are trying to ban psychiatric meds when it does help some people... (like a father forcing his son to quit his meds and disaster occurs)... and you focus all the comments on... Psychiatry is evil, etc... Which is typical CCHR/OSA move.
I say the same thing over and over... yes, its not perfect but it helps a lot of people and treats them, and you go back to how evil they are.
The reason I focus on 'how evil meds are' is because I KNOW how evil they are (I worked in mental health, and the only people who drown their little children in the bath, or go on a shooting spree, are ones on medication, seldom is it people on drugs and never people who are stone-cold sober). As for how many people meds help... Strange how there are NO VERIFIABLE STATISTICS regarding that. You, for instance, were helped by your faith in the meds, not by the meds themselves. Mind over matter.
Not all meds are evil. They effect the individual differently. And Virginia Tech shooting... Cho was not taking his meds for a LONG time. He was clean.
No, I am not saying the amphetamine is a placebo, I am saying that meds affect individuals on a long term basis to such an extent that even yaers after they stop taking them their brains have been so damaged that they can become a Cho of Virginia Tech.
And by the way, if they affect the individual differently why are they not individually calibrated? You know, to save the millions of people who suffer as a result of the meds being ill balanced for their particular brains.
Cho didnt take his meds longterm. he tried them out and didnt like them, so he stopped. He had issues before he was even on meds.. Believe me.. I knew the kid... AND Mike Kennedy... who DEFINITELY NEEDED HELP! He had Schizophrenia and never took his medication.
Also: "You, for instance, were helped by your faith in the meds, not by the meds themselves. Mind over matter."
...Adderall is amphetamine. Faith had nothing to do it. Although it wasnt the meds alone that helped me, but big part of it.
By the way, it seems that in all your 'reading of medical reports' somehow the number and names of psych meds that have been withdrawn from the market have eluded you. 1- Could that be because they weren't mentioned in those reports? 2 - Or was it that your mind simply didn't register what the implications are of a drug/medication being taken off the market, and therefore didn't commit those to memory? 3 - Or is it that no psychiatric meds have ever been withdrawn from the market? (A hint - LSD)
I am quite aware of recalls and withdrawals of psych meds in the market. But that happens with every type of drug. Celebrex was revealed to cause heart attacks in a medical study... by the way... who do you think PERFORMS MOST MEDICAL STUDIES?
Again... let me make my point out AGAIN...
PSYCHIATRY IS NOT PERFECT, NEITHER ARE THE MEDICATIONS.. BUT THEY DO HELP AND TREAT MORE PEOPLE THAN IT HARMS. NOT ALL PSYCHS PRESCRIBE MEDS AND WANT TO DRUG AMERICA AND TAKE ALL THEIR MONEY. Sry for the caps.
You know, if you havent been bothered to check, certain medications have been released because of their ability to make remarkable differances, however, as the FDA as shown with its 2007 food and drug recall and examination report number 2301A the reason for withdraws and removals from markets are due, as a matter of fact, to long term effects they were not aware of due to tech/understanding. this is kinda normal. why else do you think nukes arent used or certain foods are removed?
danschaoticmind - Thanks for proving my point. What I've been saying is that there is no way any of you can know whether the meds you're on are ones that will prove beneficial in the long term or if they are meds that will be removed from the market when the long term studies are over (and the studies are done on those taking the meds, that means YOU without your informed consent, all previous studies are simply preliminary). Why not try tai chi to calm your mind or quit watching TV+video games?
My ADHD is so bad.. I can't sit through/finish a movie anymore. Like i said.. i was diagnosed BEFORE it was a trend. Tried almost every alternative.... doesn't work. This is the best way that works for me. I don't like playing video games either. I'm aware adderall may have long term affects- EVERYTHING has longterm affects- even Sugar (diabetes)... I still have yet understand why all you think Psychiatry should be outlawed and banned. At least they acknowledge their mistakes and their past.
To be sure my friend, I am not proving your point. What I am saying, to be certain, is that certain drugs are released and are not fully tested. I will concede that tai chi does help however the focus on tai chi is not to focus the mind on anything. In reality there exists the need for certain medications because it has been shown that the brain on occasion does not produce the proper chemicals needed to keep it in check. thus, using a few examples simply because they suit your purpose is flawed
I tried numerous things... and all I want to do is just sit down and watch a damn movie... for everyone else that seems normal... yet for me (as a filmmaker)... its an irritating process that ends with me turning off the tv or leaving the room half way through. Like i said- the medication works for
ME and therefore (i dont know how/why he connects it with psychiatry) it shouldnt be banned. Out of all the medications.. Adderall works the best for me and many others
IhateH1pp13s - Part 1 - You obviously don't understand that no matter what emotional involvement you had with the victims, it does not in any way lend credence to your position (that, my friend, is half-witted). Who told you that CHO was NOT on medication? Was that verifiable - or just a general assumption (he shot lots of people therefore he MUST have stopped taking his meds at some point)?
Yes, i know i said this was time i would reply... but oh well.
The information about his medication came from his mother. In fact, YEARS before this happened he wrote an essay about how he wanted to re-do columbine. THIS caused him to be sent for psychiatric help... waaay before he even took medication.
And the school board talks about how he refused psychiatric treatment or medication...
And look... Psychiatrists DIDNT FORCE HIM TO DO ANYTHING. No Meds, No sessions, no electroshock
IhateH1pp13s - The reason I think you haven't done the research is because you HAVEN'T DONE THE RESEARCH. You SAY you have but obviously all you've done is looked for things that support your point of view and called that research. KNOWING people who knew someone is not fucking research, you fool - nowhere on earth is that considered 'research'. You are half-witted by the meds, which mask that reality from you. Don't bother arguing anymore, you've proven that your point is null and void.
Rarosera... I'm not sure you are understanding what I'm saying... or you're mentally handicaped. I KNEW THE VICTIMS OF VIRGINIA TECH SHOOTING (and the shooter)... I went to high school with them. Those victims were my friends you fucking prick.
You have proven MY point by showing how deluted and brainwashed you are.
I know psychiatry is not perfect, but if you are really this deluted... then THIS IS MY LAST RESPONCE TO YOUR MESSAGE. I hope you sort things out soon.
part 2- What research have you actually done into psychiatric medications, their research and development, use, side effects, and death toll? (the misery they have caused is not recorded) Do you have any idea how often the field of psychiatry has introduced a medication, then removed it from the market after thousands of deaths resulted? HAVE YOU DONE ANY ACTUAL FUCKING RESEARCH INTO THIS???
The research i've done is reading countless medical reports, news articles, experiences from people who are on the medications, ingrediants (active and inactive) that compose the substance, 'psychiatry: industry of death' dvds/books, psychology/psychiatry courses, how the substance effects (longrun/shortrun) mental and physical parts of body, deaths from suicides, overdoses, and withdrawal syndrome, addiction, dependence, serotonin syndrome, various theories of psychiatric disorders,....
mental disorders, well known psychiatrists, read plenty of medical journals, wrote essays... and when anyone in my family (including me) is prescribed medication... i look at every positive/negative side effect, and look into every aspect of that drug and what it does to the body/mind.
By the way... for the FDA to approve medication. It takes 5-10 years during the testing process to even be considered. They dont just throw meds into the world and see what happens.
Tell me about the FDA. Tell me how ASPARTAME was approved as 'safe for human consumption' by the FDA after more than 10 years of continuous denial of said approval on the basis of the scientific proof that aspartame was a pathogenic neurotoxin. (look it up on wikipedia under the heading ASPARTAME 'discovery and approval'). Please DO some research, don't just base your conclusions on what you've heard through the mass media, who consider the 'masses' to be astoundingly gullible.
I mentioned the FDA to show Psychiatrists dont just cook up a new pill and throw it out into the market. They test it out for a while first. I'm not a fan of the FDA and they make some of the most stupid decisions. Almost everyday a 'new study' comes out that shows that something either causes cancer or is dangerous. Like recently they proved the link between cellphones and braincaner.
MAIN PONT: Psychiatry isn't perfect, but it DOES help people, whether scientology likes it or not.
If a medical doctor, whether a general practitioner or psychiatrist, didn't perscribe your medication, how did you come by it? You must have sought it through illict means.
look who gives reason to psychiatry is pathetic! you are a servant of psychiatrists? them that you are driving to attack scientology? scientology aims to help people in a natural way without giving elettroschock or psychotropic drugs that reduce the patient in a larva! how you can be a servant of this infamy?
I am in northern italy, I am the land of padania! us much more of the Sicilian Mafia who are! we are proud and honest workers and scientology shines in our economy! psychiatry is the poison ruin peoples!
idiozie say! scientology is against the immorality, drugs! I have many friends I fun and help people! instead what you do in life? destroy the good of God? is good?
i have no idea what the fuck you just said... but if scientology is against immorality..... Explain: lisa mcpherson fair game disconnection policy black p.r. operation snow white operation freak out every single lawsuit filed against anyone who speaks against them. Every single suicide/murder caused by their reckless and useless 'medical' techniques and treatments. Explain every seizure that someone with epilepsy has suffered from Explain WHY they charge so much money for help. Explain it to me
I am Italian speak little English, translator use bad software!
say only that some bad people do come into scientology staff! alter their technology to do harm to other people make bad scientology! these people do bad pr! make mistakes to good people who think evil scientology! technology but not be scientology alter their technology hidden ! discoveries bad people be deported! scientology will help everyone, no bad as you think! scientology against drugs, immorality, crime!I see this!
I know most Scientologists are good. However, the corrupt and bad ones are mostly leaders and people in charge. WE are against these people. We protest against them. We are not against your beliefs.
i think medications are necessary in cases..however they are clearly overprescribing...because its all a money game...and if you cant see that..you are blind
It was an American Science Fiction writer, L. Ron Hubbard, who felt like starting a cult to get some money.
Psychiatrists are taught to the members as evil earlier on in the cult, farther up, its evil aliens warlords and dead alien spirits that are evil, with the psychiatrists still evil at the side.
haha the whole page of comments are jsut hilarious!!!
haha....a science fiction writer...i have A.D.H.D, and i get methalenfenidate, works great i have a 3.8 GPA in 9th grade, and i think its great how all the scientologists are thinkin its evil?!LMAO!!!
Wow! Seems like there is a lot of hostility here. Maybe some of you should ask a regular doctor for something to help you feel less hostile. By the way, psichiatry is the field that promoted the ECT (electroconvulsive therapy) to cure depression after they failed to cure it through lobotomies. FACT! So... some of you guys still trust their professional judgement. Strange how so many of you are on medication. Without it the world might appear better.
The reason there is so much hostility here is because i am sick and tired of hearing so much nonsense from scientologists about how i'm doing things wrong and the treatment i am getting is "evil"... if you want to go into FACTS then keep responding and i will give you some FACTS on Scientology... strange how you trust your organization after all the crimes, deaths, and harm it has caused, because it caused way more damage and chaos than psychiatry has ever (and will ever) cause anybody.
Yes... lets imagine a world in which less people are medicated. That way we can walk around seeing people depressed, suicidal, psychotic, and having epileptic seizures... yes that sounds like the world i want to live in. That sounds a whole lot better to me.
Actually, although I see a lot of good in Psychiatry, I would like to see people less medicated. I think drugs are overprescribed. It's a quick fix to things that would be better treated with other methods of behavior modification (also avail. from Psychiatry). While I agree with your premise and the heart of your message, I think there are some serious issues in Psychiatry that need to be addressed.
If we're talking FACTS lets talk about how many people commit suicide who are ON antidepressants - obviously thats not intentional but those antidepressants were not working, why then were those sufferers encouraged to stay on them?
Also, I am NOT, repeat, NOT a scientologist - and I don't know any either. Lots of what scientology say makes sense (at least on a superficial level), and lots of their techniques are incredibly intrusive.
They killed themselves cuz they were DEPRESSED, not cuz of the meds. If you really think meds make people wanna suddently jump off a bridge, u really should research more. Not all medication treats people the same, some dont work. Doesnt mean to ban all meds. My mother takes antianxiety meds and without them her health was disasterous (almost died). She took the meds and shes happier, calm, no heart conditions or anxiety attacks/blackouts. Without them, she would probably be dead.
IhateH1pp13s - then why do the makers of the meds state in their side effects / cointerindications that their meds 'may cause suicidal tendencies'? (YOU need to do a little research.) And why did nobody in the medical profession discover (not merely ponder) what was causing your mother's anxiety in the first place? Because they can just say it's in her mind, and her mind needs meds, and none of you will question it - or risk being put on meds for being neurotic, and with a family history of...
Why do you assume all doctors/psychiatrists are money grubbing mad scientists who want to drug the whole world?
Nobody knows how medication will react to different people... does that mean we need to abolish all psychiatric-related practices and medications? Things go wrong, and that will always happen... even with taking vitamins... But Scientologists are trying to take down Psychiatry, which believe it or not... helps people. Not everyone... but the majority are treated
IhateH1pp13s - Hold on a second. Don't put words in my mouth and group all doctors and psychiatrists together. That's impolite. Also, don't tell me what I 'assume'. I'm telling you what I KNOW, not what I assume. Justify your statement about vitamins, lets see who's assuming what. As for psychiatry-related practices - Do you have any idea of what MK-ultra entailed? Bill Clinton publically apologized to the patients and their families for what that psichiatry-related practise did to them. WHY?
The Dr.s i was referring to... were the psychiatrists. Sorry, i'm sleep deprived and what goes in my head and out on the keyboard dont make sense to everyone.
You assumed the doctors just gave my mom drugs for anxiety and not try to find the source of the problem. To my understanding the MKultra fiasco started with the government. So again, they should abolish a method that treats MANY MANY people... because of an incident in the 70s?
IhateH1pp13s - No prob, you should see some of the things I've written when sleep deprived... Now, considering that MK-ultra was run by psychiatrists on behalf of the government, yes, I think it'd be a great idea for the whole field of psychiatry to be disbanded. Not only that, but any psychiatrist who has no proven track record of having helped every single one of their patients should be prosecuted for torture and mental anguish. In place of paliative we should have holistic medicine/ayurveda.
EBAUMSWORLDFTW - No, I can't be bothered. Instead how about if you look into the latest university campus shooting massacre, see what meds HE was on and see how well psychiatry was working for him. Oh! And then see what meds the Columbine boys were on. Are any of these sufficiently well 'documented' for you, or would you like me to go on? Now who's laughing?
Whoa. Dont even go there. I knew went to the same high school as Cho and was friends with the victims. I am fucking sick and tired of everyone blaming that on medications.
He was fucking mentally challenged, not all there in the head... and he was on paxil... 8 years ago.. and only took it for a few months.
He was constantly being referred to psychologists and mental facilities, but he never went.
VT happened because he did not seek psychiatric help or medication you fucking moron. Have respect
IhateH1pp13s - you ridiculous little shit. You think because you 'heard' about who and when and how long it's gonna add any validity to your argument? Well let me tell you something. I have personally known 4 people who commited suicide, all of them were on medication at the time, some had been on them for longer than others. They all complained about their meds, saying they were not suiting them and were making them feel 'dead' inside. Unless you're willing to do the research shut the fuck up.
What the fuck are you talking about? I didnt hear about it... I KNEW them, asshole. I known people who killed themselves too. If people don't like their medicine... guess what... transfer to a different fucking doctor and get something else. Its not that hard. MY POINT: Cho needed psychiatric help. He didn't take his medicine... he never went to any sessions... and he was mentally ill. So STOP using Virginia Tech as an example for anti-psychiatry. Why do you think i have not done the research?
Don't pressume that because your meds are ok with you that THAT is the sum total. Many medication actually KILL the patients - this is recorded FACT. Your meds work fine, and that's good in a sense, but the fact that they work makes it all the easier for you to not seek a CURE. THAT (I think) is the basis of the scientolgist view. And I agree. Don't just treat the condition to be a productive member of society, CURE it instead. It is your health that is prime, not the society you serve.
No one has the cures. That's why Psychiatry continues to do research. What's anybody else doing to find a cure? So what about the meantime? Should AIDs patients go off their meds becuase it doesn't cure them?
Y'know, there are people who can vouch for Dianetics and Scientology, saying with 100% certainty that they didn't need any 'medications' to cure their hitherto unknown mental problems. You should really hear some of their stories sometime, mate. Psychiatry has admitted to not having any cures for the so called "diseases" they label people with. So if that's true, how is what they're doing a legitimate medical practice? The medical field treats the physical human condition with provable methods.
It's natural for human being to deny any hidden disorders they may have and without doubt mentally unstable person is *truly* the man to judge for himself, dontcha' think? True, psychiatry does not have cures it's not some mumbo jumbo like dianetics which have no scientific proof on it nor proved records of ''cured'' people. Psychiatry cannot cure instatly people, it can help people recover from traumas, neurosis and personality disorders alike, mind is not body it does not recover that easily.
My view of psichiatry is echoed by others here. Too much medicating, not enough help in recovering without medication, not enough study into causes of illnesses/diseases. Also, my friend, lets not forget that the psichiatric treatments lots of people recieve are forced on them - not because their 'unbalanced minds' are unwilling to accept help, but because those same minds have experienced the torture of some of the treatments before, on previous admissions.
Wow! You should really make sure you know what you're talking about! Electroshock therapy is still used to treat severe depression...and it works. Go get a subscription to Ebsco host you science hating loser. (How bout that for hostility!) :)
At least psychology is based in science and not the psychotic ravings of a scam artist.
Yes, and doctors used to treat fever with blood-letting. FACT! Perhaps we should try to outlaw all medicine while we're at it, eh?
The simple fact is that all science and medicine improves over time. Psychiatists are willing to admit that you would have received lesser quality, and indeed harmful treatment years ago. So, yes, I trust them.
i agree with you that it is over prescribed. Back when i was a kid and first diagnosed with ADHD... it was a long exhausting process... now days it is just a few questions. But at least those who actually have it get the treatment they need.
I believe you are guilty of "keeping an open mind."
I think it's important to be fair to Scientology's claims against Psychiatry. Many of them are partially valid. It's the extremes they go to that make them sound ridiculous. The field of Psychiatry is open to improvement, so it will improve. Church of Scientology cannot currently revoke their attacks on Psychiatry, so they are unwilling to look at the other side.
Haha, don't even start with "Everyone has the right..." bullshit, you have NO rights in Scienology and you take them away from EVERYONE else who you consider wrong.
That's my belife and the belife of thousands if not tens of thousands of others.
Speaking of "examinations" do you know the fine details of YOUR "Religion"?
I said "everybody has to be right about what they believe and make themselves right about what they believe. Everyone does that." Its a trait in people.
What I mean is no matter what a person believes, it seems they have to be and also make themselves right about it. Every seems to do this.
yet your religion is trying to 'destroy' psychiatry and medications that treat disorders because some science fiction writer (who sucked) said it was evil.
Excellent video!! 5 stars :D I too have ADD, I don't take medication for it (my personal choice and not one Psychiatrist has EVER tried to force medication on me)but I know how effective the medication can be for many people. Provided of course that the diagnosis is correct and the medication is tailored correctly to an individuals needs.
I am in know way affililated with CoS (I am in fact a student mental health nurse), but your point about psychiatrist not for medication upon people is not factual. Psychiatrist are lawfully allowed to detain, drug and even electro shock individuals aginst their will. Please be aware of the facts before posting. Thanks.
I didn't say they went allowed. I said they don't go around forcing every ADD patient, or Anxious/Depressed person with medication. In fact, i saw a psych recently and she wanted me OFF my meds, but I said no.
If Scientologists are so pissed that Psychiatrists have AUTHORITY to do these things, why the fuck arnt they pissed off at the govt, police, etc.
And on the RARE case they treat someone against their will, theyre hostile and will endanger the public. I dont understand their cult.
I don't know why you have focused on ADD. The my rely was not alluding specifically to that diagnosis. That said, my point is still valid, psychiatrist are allowed, and do detain and medicate individuals against their will. The question of how often is a different matter which I have not brought up.
As I am not a member or advocate or CoS, I do not wich to comment for them. My point was more a matter of fact.
You are exagerrating your point. Yes, Psychiatrists have the power to have someone committed against their will. So do the families of the mentally ill patient. They also have the power to commit them to an institution.
They detain and treat those who will either go around killing people and raping women... or they could endanger themselves. The fact is that there are more people with this ability so why focus on psychs. They help more than harming. What do you mean why did I focus on ADHD?
This is the problem with psychiatry. The imprison persons whom have never commited an offence while excusing people who have commited some of the most heanous of crimes.
I'm from the UK and as far as I know here, individuals families do not have the power of the MHA. Might be different were you are.
Ah, thats why. Families commit mentally ill relatives to psychiatric hospitals. Again... Every authority figure; family, doctors, psychiatrists, judges... they all can do it too. Its not like mentally ill people are sent to Auzwitz or a death camp. Have you been in a psychiatric hospital? Shit, they have better accommodation's than i do. Psychiatrists have to treat patients ethically or they lose their license and thrown in jail. Again, thats over here. I cant speak for the UK.
First of all, thank you for sharing. Truth is the best cure for anything. My personal thoughts is that medication is over-used and there are definitely abuses, however, there are health stories too. The misapplication of anything is bad. I think a watch dog group is helpful, and one of the things that keeps COS members blind. Whats my message, FANATICAL beliefs label things as ENTIRELY. The truth is usually a combination not an ultimate.
No doubt in my mind that it is over diagnosed and abused.
When I was diagnosed as a kid it was a LONG DRAWN OUT process... took weeks. Now, you answer some questions... and BOOM... you got it. Gives people who ACTUALLY have it a bad name.
there are so many people that have been helped by medications that are specifically for mental disorders that it is rediculous for scientology to suggest that psychiatry is such an evil threat. perhaps this was because LRH was in denial about his own illness.
Plus.... LRH died with traces of Prescription medications in his system. But they are so closed off and programmed to deny anything that questions their beliefs (A.K.A brainwashing)... that they attack the wrong method of treatment and ignore documented evidence that proves them wrong. I want to write a huge paper on all this, but none of my classes have anything to do with this.... (My adderall kicked in... if you couldnt tell... haha)
it is up to the individual person how THEY wish to be treated, it is no one else's business to tell anyone what they should or should not do. ITS A PEROSNAL DECISION....As in all aspects of life there are the good and the bad, it isnt just with physicians, its teachers, lawyers etc. One error or bad experience does not make the whole entity fraudulant or harmful
I am not so blind not to admit that. But in doing so we cannot condemn a whole branch or system for the actions of a few. If scientology wants to complain about what help is been offered y dont they proved an alternative free of charge or strings attached... Oh wait they will never do that as there is no profit involved. That's an less your a fire man been bribed after 7/11 to take the Narcanon rundown! Yea that's right! I went there! XD
I bet your a dumbass on welfare. That's what things like adderal does to people. I dont believe you ever got through school. because of psychiatry people with the imaginary illness of add or adhd never succeed. If it wernt for dexedrin, Id have my high school diploma.
blackturbokitty 1 year ago
I do not support cults like Scientology, however the pharmaceutical profession, doctors as a hole do not have your best interest at heart but rather their own pocket book. Dr's use to care about patients years ago, now they just hand out pills they profit from. what U think is working, is not really working but fooling U into believing it. they made U believe U have an illness when U don't. ADHD is a sign of genius & pills are suppressing that for you. it's curable but needs to be mastered
Judy101101 1 year ago
This video is very disturbing. This ego-maniac is viciously defending his narcotic addiction which he feels is justified because it is prescribed by a Dr.
Don't worry drug addicts, you will continue to get your drugs despite anything that scientology does. I wish my doctor would prescribe me adderall. It is the only thing that gives me the ability to play my guitar or reading long books. Everyone agrees I am better on it but doctors refuse to give it to me so I hate people who get it +attitude!
BeavisNacho 1 year ago
just cuz a drugs SEEMS to have an effect doesn't mean it does.
it's like the old analogy of making some take sugar pills. if he thinks it works then great... keep taking them, it's all mental.
I always considered anyone who takes drugs for something as petty as ADHD a bitch.
my sis is making her kid take that shit and he doesn't seem anybetter.
he seems the exact fucking same.
but then again she don't hit him either....
that's probably the problem.
baezalejandro 1 year ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!
you have ADHD!!! that sucks man!!!! lol
s1114110 1 year ago
Its easy to tell someone thirsty...'lets not drink water'...when you yourself are not thirsty. It's easy to tell someone under pain or sickness...'lets not use medication'...when you are completely healthy. Let people judge by themselves what is good for them.
WorldCollections 1 year ago
the kid who made this video is a brainwashed fool. his mom is also retarded to believe psychiatrists. what a shame.
draziom902 1 year ago
well, if their way works then it works for them. All people are different. ADHD drugs cause a drug reaction in me, like a drug addicts' I'm pretty sensitive, so anything will yield dramatic effects in me. Adderall in you was probably cheating.
returnoftheramble3 1 year ago
lol 2:11 lmao
threadysparrow 1 year ago
Glad to hear you've gotten "wins" from psych drugs. Scientology is insane. Also, there is such a thing as overdrugging a people, and I do worry about that as well.
Can't argue with this, though: if it works, it works. :)
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pauldubrovsky 1 year ago
fuck psychiatry and fuck scientology...
antbee77 2 years ago 3
psychiatry is GOING DOWN. DOWN!.
Draziom203 2 years ago
smoke marijuana
scorpion456 2 years ago
your video is a tad ignorant... it's not good to be on just medication with out cognitive treatment, thats actually a huge problem in the us today, shoving drugs at the problem and not trying to solve it at the source. i had teenage depression and i was cured through only cognitive and behavioral therapy, no drugs - i totally support you with your rampage against scientology, they are truly the ignorant ones. also i don't mean to offend you tho, adhd is indeed a serious medical brain imbalance
blueeyedbeauty44 2 years ago
@blueeyedbeauty44 Very well said. I could not agree more, there are many problems that can be treated using CBT, but there are also many problems that require the use of medications. It really depends on the person.
eBiology 1 year ago
You must be stupid when Psychiatrist themselves admit that they have no scientific proof or case study. Can't you think? or what?
IPI001 2 years ago
@IPI001 Mmm there is plenty of evidence to support the neurotransmitter theories behind many mental illnesses. It is difficult to gather this information though due to the complexity of the human brain.
eBiology 1 year ago
@eBiology God,finally someone who says it!
COREarg 1 year ago
Judging from the demonic way in which this video was created... I am a lil scared of this man.
Kevinlcm17 2 years ago
Demonic, huh?
Slide show pictures with the music from V for Vendetta.
You should really read your bible, sir
IhateH1pp13s 2 years ago 2
Bravo. Thanks for posting this video.
ngogol 2 years ago
Although I agree that not all medical practitioners conduct unscrupulous activities, it is a matter of fact that drug companies pay many to prescribe drugs before considering any alternate treatments. My neurologist prescribed me even more depression pills when I said, "It makes me happy." He replied, "Happy?! Happy is good." I'm now on 6 different, daily prescriptions, isn't that cool?! I'm going to get a second-opinion to see if I can get off the drugs.
BlueMicrowave 2 years ago
this guy is really a fucking asshole, he should fuck the fuck off
FeicoElzinga 2 years ago 2
Perhaps you only directed this at scientology. But all to often anyone that questions paxil or drugging homeless people is attacked as a scientologist. It's a talking point for pro-psychiatry people.
I have known a number of people claiming they have found some great psychiatric drug only to complain it 'stopped working' or ended up giving them terrible side effects.
It is your life but know that psychiatrists may not always see it as your choice what drugs they give you.
running877 2 years ago
I don't see a psychiatrist... and don't plan on it. lol.
I support ADDERALL... not paxil. In fact, paxil is dangerous when it comes to withdrawal syndromes.
Scientology wants to COMPLETELY DESTROY PSYCHIATRY.... even though it helps some people.
But again, I am prescribed ADDERALL through my general health care provider
IhateH1pp13s 2 years ago
Not everyone that questions Psychiatry is a Scientologist.
I suppose that the people that have been harmed by these drugs do not matter.
Are we supposed to think you're the next Spielberg from this video.
running877 2 years ago
This video is meant for scientologists..
hence...
"To: Scientology"
and I think Spielberg is a has-been hack who is ruining classics
IhateH1pp13s 2 years ago 2
you're absolutely right, and i have been harmed by psychiatry
FeicoElzinga 2 years ago
taking adderall everyday will make anyones grades go up. it makes anyone focus. not just people with adhd. im not a scientologist, but you dont need to bash other peoples beliefs, no matter how different they are from yours. different things work for different people. grow up
Retsknarp 2 years ago 4
"Im in my 20s and enjoy an active life in the film industry..."
Just shut the fuck up, idiot.
Your amphetamines don't do shit for you, as one raidly develops a tolerance to them. The placebo affect is what keeps you going.
bluefire269 2 years ago 4
lmao.... placebo affect?
that alone shows you have no idea what the hell your talking about.
IhateH1pp13s 2 years ago
Thank you for your concern.
you might be right about psychiatry, I dont know too much about it.
But you do know that you dont have to be a Scientologist to be anti-psychiatry, right?
and even if you wanted to be a scientologist...
you know you don't have to pay all that money that they charge, right?
At least go freezone, away from the money, greed, and corrupt leadership
IhateH1pp13s 2 years ago
Im in my 20s and enjoy an active life in the film industry and protest a dangerous cult with my freetime. And again... my general health dr prescribes it to me... i do not see a psych
IhateH1pp13s 2 years ago
I'm not going to argue with you, as you're too pigheaded to see the truth. You're wrong. End of story. No epilogue, just end of story.
NinjaGhostScorpion 2 years ago
You took the time to ask me a question, and I'll answer it in two parts.
First, I'm smarter than you have the mental capability to realize.
Second, I do get tired of being wrong about some things, but if opposing someone who tries to kill psychiatry, a practice which has saved millions of lives, my own included, is wrong, then I don't want to be right.
NinjaGhostScorpion 2 years ago
I have adhd too. And i totally agree with this vid. I wish that people could learn how to READ and LISTEN before they speak against psyciatry! Before i got my meds, I was SO NEAR TO CRASH! School was a disaster, I could never concentrate, Never socialize, But now, Everything just WORKS, Can you explain that to me, Why everything just got better when i got my medicine?
Keep up the good work. Loved the vid.
SaintEbba 2 years ago
because that is the affect of amphetamines. focus and outwardly social. everyone gets that from adderall. its not so much a cure as it is a crutch. its easier to take a pill that will make you focus than it is to learn to focus. people overcome disorders withouth pills. pills are simply easier
Retsknarp 2 years ago 6
@Retsknarp dont you fucking tell me that i can do this without pills. dont you tell me that my medication is a crutch. how fucking dare you judge me. who are you to judge me taking medication for my disorder!
threadysparrow 1 year ago
Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
NinjaGhostScorpion 2 years ago
cant we all just get along?
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
i know you are but what am i
Klubiy 3 years ago
scratch that; you should see a shrink.
Klubiy 3 years ago
maybe you should see a shrink
Klubiy 3 years ago
....i dont see a psychiatrist. If you truely dismiss this... you prove to me and youtube that you are brainwashed. I am too poor to see a psychiatrist or psychologist... you can believe in scientology... i dont give a shit and its your right to believe so. The fact of the matter is that I was diagnosed by a general health care provider. I hope you wake up and if you need help getting out do not hesitate to ask. A lot of general healthcare providers acknowledge ADHD
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
Well... I have been diagnosed in my medical chart by a general heathcare doctor... not a psychiatrist...
Scientology is a cult... FACT.
Im done feeding you troll...
Come back when you actually want to discuss things.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
wow... really original...
we heard you the first thousand times...
back up your claims or stfu
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
One of the interesting things about my psychiatrist and my psychologoist is that they said ok you're extremely over medicated, Even though you have such and such illness why dont you try not taking any medication and I havent taken any medication since.
I think Scientolgists have spread alot of misinformation about psychiatry because all I ever do with either specialist is I sit down and talk for about an hour, they never suggest anything, they listen more then anything.
Whipitonmyjim1234 3 years ago
haj. you are kind of wright about scientology .. but than from your side I wouldn take such a stand FOR psychiatrist in general .. the facts about psychiatry are there still standing firm. it is pure busnies.. . without prof that is beneficial.. what if you take your self now from that pill. maybe you will feel great. what if you maybe dont need that ... soo .. take care man
KISTOVI 3 years ago
I have just been watching an interview with Tommy Davis who says regarding taking anti seizure medication "Absolutley whenever your dealing with any sort of physical condition this isn't the kind of thing that is even an option this is mandatory! if you have a conditioned diagnosed by a doctor the person is going to take it just like anybody else would".......Hmmm not sure whether you guys perhaps would like some time to get your story straight then come back to us.
Hail Xenu!!
jorgo3p 3 years ago
what are you on about? i've meet people who smoke crack and say it helps them feel better but that dont make it right... surely you should still get to the bottom of the problem rather than drug yourself so bad you just dont care anymore... plus i dont see any factual information here.
rogerheaton 3 years ago 2
fact- adderall helped me raise my grades and graduate
fact- i am in the film industry
fact- adderall helps me focus.
if you know the cure for adhd... please tell me... im open to suggestions.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
...im not taking ritalin.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
haha.... i dont see psychs... and i know TONS of people whove been on prozac and paxil for longer than ive been alive.... and they too are great.
you sir, are the brainwashed one. and why do you think im a mess? haha. you dont even know me. im in hollywood working on my dream project and havent been this happy and focused...since... ever
nice try
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
I did...
and i feel spectacular...
how are you?
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
fuck you fucking asshole, psychiatric drugs are not ok, ok ? psychiatry causes people to harm themselves, you should back off, you're a sick person, under a fucking nick name
FeicoElzinga 3 years ago
where are your sources.
what is your problem?
you need to chillax and take a moment to think for yourself.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
Does anyone else remember Tom Cruise criticizing Kirstie Alley for taking Post-Partum Depression drugs?? lol..now he claims that "Scientology requires you to get medical help"..lol..their "church" (business) is worried about losing some lawsuits..just like any true business.
Rikiru 3 years ago
Amen. People should be free to do what they want to. No one should anybody for the methods they choose. Not any of us, not the Travoltas, not anyone.
chicaflamenca 3 years ago
RIP Jett Travolta, another victim of Scientology.
Veritas9 3 years ago
^^^^^
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
scientology is a cult - I am glad you are successful & took the meds that worked for you. If you are completely off your meds, dont be surprised if you ever have to go back on them for a while or forever.
applesalamanderpie 3 years ago
Adderall is one of those take as you need medications. You take it, it kicks in within 15-30 minutes, and wears off within hours. Hardly any withdrawal syndrome. However, I take it rarely now... but i def. wouldn't be where i am without Adderall.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
I am so sorry that this cult has taken over your friends life & has left you bitter. Please read the book of John in the bible. The bible by the way as you probably know, is the #1 Best Seller of all time. Not the crap stated in the temporary best seller sometime in the 70s or 80s, the short lived, book from ron hubbard-dianetics that should be banned like oj's book. Jesus Christ, son of God is the only true way to happiness. God Bless You!
applesalamanderpie 3 years ago
Firstly, psychiatrists do not take blood samples to see what chemicals might or might not be missing before prescribing their drugs. Everybody's brain chemistry is different (as is every other biological factor) - but the medication is identical. If the meds suit you for now, good for you. If you end up a retard due to the meds in the future you'll have no-one to blame. Your beliefs are too rigid and your world view too narrow to understand what you're dealing with and suffering from. Enough.
rarosera 3 years ago
1.Neither to regular doctors... nobody does, until you report a problem.
2. I have been on Adderall for about 12 years...and Amphetamine was around in the 1800s... and users who take it normally (longterm) dont wind up retarded... unless you abuse it.
How are my views to narrow.. i said its not perfect and what ever works for that individual is fine, but for the cult to try and ban it is RETARDED and IGNORANT.
I believe your view is too narrow from prolonged brainwashing by cult. Happy laborday
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
IhateH1pp13s- Einstein wrote, 'Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.' In other words, jumping to conclusions without the facts is idiotic, like, for instance, jumping to the conclusion that I belong to any cult. Not only am I not a scientologist but I don't follow ANY religion, be it established and sanctioned by the state or not. I am an intelligent human being giving my opinion on a subject in which I have much experience. YOU, on the other hand, can't even spell. QED
rarosera 3 years ago
You are right... I was quick to judge...
Maybe it's because I am yelling at Scientologists who are trying to ban psychiatric meds when it does help some people... (like a father forcing his son to quit his meds and disaster occurs)... and you focus all the comments on... Psychiatry is evil, etc... Which is typical CCHR/OSA move.
I say the same thing over and over... yes, its not perfect but it helps a lot of people and treats them, and you go back to how evil they are.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
Oh....
and one more thing...
This is the internet.
If you want to see correct punctuation...
Read a book...
I'm typing these on my phone.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
The reason I focus on 'how evil meds are' is because I KNOW how evil they are (I worked in mental health, and the only people who drown their little children in the bath, or go on a shooting spree, are ones on medication, seldom is it people on drugs and never people who are stone-cold sober). As for how many people meds help... Strange how there are NO VERIFIABLE STATISTICS regarding that. You, for instance, were helped by your faith in the meds, not by the meds themselves. Mind over matter.
rarosera 3 years ago
Not all meds are evil. They effect the individual differently. And Virginia Tech shooting... Cho was not taking his meds for a LONG time. He was clean.
...
Are you saying that Amphetamines are a placebo?
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
No, I am not saying the amphetamine is a placebo, I am saying that meds affect individuals on a long term basis to such an extent that even yaers after they stop taking them their brains have been so damaged that they can become a Cho of Virginia Tech.
And by the way, if they affect the individual differently why are they not individually calibrated? You know, to save the millions of people who suffer as a result of the meds being ill balanced for their particular brains.
rarosera 3 years ago
Cho didnt take his meds longterm. he tried them out and didnt like them, so he stopped. He had issues before he was even on meds.. Believe me.. I knew the kid... AND Mike Kennedy... who DEFINITELY NEEDED HELP! He had Schizophrenia and never took his medication.
Also: "You, for instance, were helped by your faith in the meds, not by the meds themselves. Mind over matter."
...Adderall is amphetamine. Faith had nothing to do it. Although it wasnt the meds alone that helped me, but big part of it.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
Thanks for the video.
Those scienoligest are so mean spirited!
wolfofthewhitemt 3 years ago
By the way, it seems that in all your 'reading of medical reports' somehow the number and names of psych meds that have been withdrawn from the market have eluded you. 1- Could that be because they weren't mentioned in those reports? 2 - Or was it that your mind simply didn't register what the implications are of a drug/medication being taken off the market, and therefore didn't commit those to memory? 3 - Or is it that no psychiatric meds have ever been withdrawn from the market? (A hint - LSD)
rarosera 3 years ago
I am quite aware of recalls and withdrawals of psych meds in the market. But that happens with every type of drug. Celebrex was revealed to cause heart attacks in a medical study... by the way... who do you think PERFORMS MOST MEDICAL STUDIES?
Again... let me make my point out AGAIN...
PSYCHIATRY IS NOT PERFECT, NEITHER ARE THE MEDICATIONS.. BUT THEY DO HELP AND TREAT MORE PEOPLE THAN IT HARMS. NOT ALL PSYCHS PRESCRIBE MEDS AND WANT TO DRUG AMERICA AND TAKE ALL THEIR MONEY. Sry for the caps.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
You know, if you havent been bothered to check, certain medications have been released because of their ability to make remarkable differances, however, as the FDA as shown with its 2007 food and drug recall and examination report number 2301A the reason for withdraws and removals from markets are due, as a matter of fact, to long term effects they were not aware of due to tech/understanding. this is kinda normal. why else do you think nukes arent used or certain foods are removed?
danschaoticmind 3 years ago
danschaoticmind - Thanks for proving my point. What I've been saying is that there is no way any of you can know whether the meds you're on are ones that will prove beneficial in the long term or if they are meds that will be removed from the market when the long term studies are over (and the studies are done on those taking the meds, that means YOU without your informed consent, all previous studies are simply preliminary). Why not try tai chi to calm your mind or quit watching TV+video games?
rarosera 3 years ago
My ADHD is so bad.. I can't sit through/finish a movie anymore. Like i said.. i was diagnosed BEFORE it was a trend. Tried almost every alternative.... doesn't work. This is the best way that works for me. I don't like playing video games either. I'm aware adderall may have long term affects- EVERYTHING has longterm affects- even Sugar (diabetes)... I still have yet understand why all you think Psychiatry should be outlawed and banned. At least they acknowledge their mistakes and their past.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
To be sure my friend, I am not proving your point. What I am saying, to be certain, is that certain drugs are released and are not fully tested. I will concede that tai chi does help however the focus on tai chi is not to focus the mind on anything. In reality there exists the need for certain medications because it has been shown that the brain on occasion does not produce the proper chemicals needed to keep it in check. thus, using a few examples simply because they suit your purpose is flawed
danschaoticmind 3 years ago
I concur with your statement.
I tried numerous things... and all I want to do is just sit down and watch a damn movie... for everyone else that seems normal... yet for me (as a filmmaker)... its an irritating process that ends with me turning off the tv or leaving the room half way through. Like i said- the medication works for
ME and therefore (i dont know how/why he connects it with psychiatry) it shouldnt be banned. Out of all the medications.. Adderall works the best for me and many others
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
IhateH1pp13s - Part 1 - You obviously don't understand that no matter what emotional involvement you had with the victims, it does not in any way lend credence to your position (that, my friend, is half-witted). Who told you that CHO was NOT on medication? Was that verifiable - or just a general assumption (he shot lots of people therefore he MUST have stopped taking his meds at some point)?
rarosera 3 years ago
Yes, i know i said this was time i would reply... but oh well.
The information about his medication came from his mother. In fact, YEARS before this happened he wrote an essay about how he wanted to re-do columbine. THIS caused him to be sent for psychiatric help... waaay before he even took medication.
And the school board talks about how he refused psychiatric treatment or medication...
And look... Psychiatrists DIDNT FORCE HIM TO DO ANYTHING. No Meds, No sessions, no electroshock
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
IhateH1pp13s - The reason I think you haven't done the research is because you HAVEN'T DONE THE RESEARCH. You SAY you have but obviously all you've done is looked for things that support your point of view and called that research. KNOWING people who knew someone is not fucking research, you fool - nowhere on earth is that considered 'research'. You are half-witted by the meds, which mask that reality from you. Don't bother arguing anymore, you've proven that your point is null and void.
rarosera 3 years ago
Rarosera... I'm not sure you are understanding what I'm saying... or you're mentally handicaped. I KNEW THE VICTIMS OF VIRGINIA TECH SHOOTING (and the shooter)... I went to high school with them. Those victims were my friends you fucking prick.
You have proven MY point by showing how deluted and brainwashed you are.
I know psychiatry is not perfect, but if you are really this deluted... then THIS IS MY LAST RESPONCE TO YOUR MESSAGE. I hope you sort things out soon.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
part 2- What research have you actually done into psychiatric medications, their research and development, use, side effects, and death toll? (the misery they have caused is not recorded) Do you have any idea how often the field of psychiatry has introduced a medication, then removed it from the market after thousands of deaths resulted? HAVE YOU DONE ANY ACTUAL FUCKING RESEARCH INTO THIS???
rarosera 3 years ago
The research i've done is reading countless medical reports, news articles, experiences from people who are on the medications, ingrediants (active and inactive) that compose the substance, 'psychiatry: industry of death' dvds/books, psychology/psychiatry courses, how the substance effects (longrun/shortrun) mental and physical parts of body, deaths from suicides, overdoses, and withdrawal syndrome, addiction, dependence, serotonin syndrome, various theories of psychiatric disorders,....
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
part 2-
mental disorders, well known psychiatrists, read plenty of medical journals, wrote essays... and when anyone in my family (including me) is prescribed medication... i look at every positive/negative side effect, and look into every aspect of that drug and what it does to the body/mind.
By the way... for the FDA to approve medication. It takes 5-10 years during the testing process to even be considered. They dont just throw meds into the world and see what happens.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
Tell me about the FDA. Tell me how ASPARTAME was approved as 'safe for human consumption' by the FDA after more than 10 years of continuous denial of said approval on the basis of the scientific proof that aspartame was a pathogenic neurotoxin. (look it up on wikipedia under the heading ASPARTAME 'discovery and approval'). Please DO some research, don't just base your conclusions on what you've heard through the mass media, who consider the 'masses' to be astoundingly gullible.
rarosera 3 years ago
I mentioned the FDA to show Psychiatrists dont just cook up a new pill and throw it out into the market. They test it out for a while first. I'm not a fan of the FDA and they make some of the most stupid decisions. Almost everyday a 'new study' comes out that shows that something either causes cancer or is dangerous. Like recently they proved the link between cellphones and braincaner.
MAIN PONT: Psychiatry isn't perfect, but it DOES help people, whether scientology likes it or not.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
O rly?
I am pro- giving people their medication who need it. Psychiatry isn't even an organization you mook. Haha. Show me your sources for your statistics.
Psychiatry is nothing what Scientologists think it is. I think its funny.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
If a medical doctor, whether a general practitioner or psychiatrist, didn't perscribe your medication, how did you come by it? You must have sought it through illict means.
molyneux1000 3 years ago
look who gives reason to psychiatry is pathetic! you are a servant of psychiatrists? them that you are driving to attack scientology? scientology aims to help people in a natural way without giving elettroschock or psychotropic drugs that reduce the patient in a larva! how you can be a servant of this infamy?
veropatriota 3 years ago 2
I don't have a psychiatrist.
I'm not involved in psychiatry at all.
You know nothing of psychiatry. They dont go around electroshocking people.
Again... do some research... or
Vaffanculo
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
right psychiatry vaffanculo! auhau unfamiliar Italian vaffanculo
veropatriota 3 years ago
You have to be Sicilian... nobody is this stubborn
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
I am in northern italy, I am the land of padania! us much more of the Sicilian Mafia who are! we are proud and honest workers and scientology shines in our economy! psychiatry is the poison ruin peoples!
veropatriota 3 years ago
I'm not sure what psychiatry does over there, but in America psychiatry is NOTHING what L. Ron Hubbard says it is.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
idiozie say! scientology is against the immorality, drugs! I have many friends I fun and help people! instead what you do in life? destroy the good of God? is good?
veropatriota 3 years ago
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
I am Italian speak little English, translator use bad software!
say only that some bad people do come into scientology staff! alter their technology to do harm to other people make bad scientology! these people do bad pr! make mistakes to good people who think evil scientology! technology but not be scientology alter their technology hidden ! discoveries bad people be deported! scientology will help everyone, no bad as you think! scientology against drugs, immorality, crime!I see this!
veropatriota 3 years ago
I know most Scientologists are good. However, the corrupt and bad ones are mostly leaders and people in charge. WE are against these people. We protest against them. We are not against your beliefs.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
i think medications are necessary in cases..however they are clearly overprescribing...because its all a money game...and if you cant see that..you are blind
badumpy 3 years ago
They are overprescribed... especially adderall... mostly because drug seekers seek it out... which sucks for the people who actually need it.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
Amen to that, Without doubt if i were scientologist those fuckers would left me to die with my MS-Disease, bloody zealots.
TrueNeutrality 3 years ago
why would anybody randomly choose psychiatry as its sole basis for the world's problems
i'm blaming canadians
what are they doing up there?
how come they never get involved in world dominating activities with the US?
why are they holding alaska hostage?
TheStoicAgnostic 3 years ago
It was an American Science Fiction writer, L. Ron Hubbard, who felt like starting a cult to get some money.
Psychiatrists are taught to the members as evil earlier on in the cult, farther up, its evil aliens warlords and dead alien spirits that are evil, with the psychiatrists still evil at the side.
Windyshoot 3 years ago
i'm pretty tolerant but that is pretty crazy
and the canadian thing
obviously a joke
TheStoicAgnostic 3 years ago
This is a bit exaggerated, don'tcha think?
7tilsleep 3 years ago
DICKS EVERYWHERE
legionstoner 3 years ago
haha the whole page of comments are jsut hilarious!!!
haha....a science fiction writer...i have A.D.H.D, and i get methalenfenidate, works great i have a 3.8 GPA in 9th grade, and i think its great how all the scientologists are thinkin its evil?!LMAO!!!
DJviper13 3 years ago
Wow! Seems like there is a lot of hostility here. Maybe some of you should ask a regular doctor for something to help you feel less hostile. By the way, psichiatry is the field that promoted the ECT (electroconvulsive therapy) to cure depression after they failed to cure it through lobotomies. FACT! So... some of you guys still trust their professional judgement. Strange how so many of you are on medication. Without it the world might appear better.
rarosera 3 years ago
The reason there is so much hostility here is because i am sick and tired of hearing so much nonsense from scientologists about how i'm doing things wrong and the treatment i am getting is "evil"... if you want to go into FACTS then keep responding and i will give you some FACTS on Scientology... strange how you trust your organization after all the crimes, deaths, and harm it has caused, because it caused way more damage and chaos than psychiatry has ever (and will ever) cause anybody.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
Yes... lets imagine a world in which less people are medicated. That way we can walk around seeing people depressed, suicidal, psychotic, and having epileptic seizures... yes that sounds like the world i want to live in. That sounds a whole lot better to me.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
Actually, although I see a lot of good in Psychiatry, I would like to see people less medicated. I think drugs are overprescribed. It's a quick fix to things that would be better treated with other methods of behavior modification (also avail. from Psychiatry). While I agree with your premise and the heart of your message, I think there are some serious issues in Psychiatry that need to be addressed.
sbadd 3 years ago
If we're talking FACTS lets talk about how many people commit suicide who are ON antidepressants - obviously thats not intentional but those antidepressants were not working, why then were those sufferers encouraged to stay on them?
Also, I am NOT, repeat, NOT a scientologist - and I don't know any either. Lots of what scientology say makes sense (at least on a superficial level), and lots of their techniques are incredibly intrusive.
rarosera 3 years ago
They killed themselves cuz they were DEPRESSED, not cuz of the meds. If you really think meds make people wanna suddently jump off a bridge, u really should research more. Not all medication treats people the same, some dont work. Doesnt mean to ban all meds. My mother takes antianxiety meds and without them her health was disasterous (almost died). She took the meds and shes happier, calm, no heart conditions or anxiety attacks/blackouts. Without them, she would probably be dead.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
IhateH1pp13s - then why do the makers of the meds state in their side effects / cointerindications that their meds 'may cause suicidal tendencies'? (YOU need to do a little research.) And why did nobody in the medical profession discover (not merely ponder) what was causing your mother's anxiety in the first place? Because they can just say it's in her mind, and her mind needs meds, and none of you will question it - or risk being put on meds for being neurotic, and with a family history of...
rarosera 3 years ago
Pt. 2
Why do you assume all doctors/psychiatrists are money grubbing mad scientists who want to drug the whole world?
Nobody knows how medication will react to different people... does that mean we need to abolish all psychiatric-related practices and medications? Things go wrong, and that will always happen... even with taking vitamins... But Scientologists are trying to take down Psychiatry, which believe it or not... helps people. Not everyone... but the majority are treated
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
IhateH1pp13s - Hold on a second. Don't put words in my mouth and group all doctors and psychiatrists together. That's impolite. Also, don't tell me what I 'assume'. I'm telling you what I KNOW, not what I assume. Justify your statement about vitamins, lets see who's assuming what. As for psychiatry-related practices - Do you have any idea of what MK-ultra entailed? Bill Clinton publically apologized to the patients and their families for what that psichiatry-related practise did to them. WHY?
rarosera 3 years ago
The Dr.s i was referring to... were the psychiatrists. Sorry, i'm sleep deprived and what goes in my head and out on the keyboard dont make sense to everyone.
You assumed the doctors just gave my mom drugs for anxiety and not try to find the source of the problem. To my understanding the MKultra fiasco started with the government. So again, they should abolish a method that treats MANY MANY people... because of an incident in the 70s?
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
IhateH1pp13s - No prob, you should see some of the things I've written when sleep deprived... Now, considering that MK-ultra was run by psychiatrists on behalf of the government, yes, I think it'd be a great idea for the whole field of psychiatry to be disbanded. Not only that, but any psychiatrist who has no proven track record of having helped every single one of their patients should be prosecuted for torture and mental anguish. In place of paliative we should have holistic medicine/ayurveda.
rarosera 3 years ago
ahahahaha
want to show some REAP PROOF that psychiatry does more harm then good?
A university study for example?
or, hell, anything credible performed using the scientific method.
EBAUMSWORLDFTW 3 years ago
EBAUMSWORLDFTW - No, I can't be bothered. Instead how about if you look into the latest university campus shooting massacre, see what meds HE was on and see how well psychiatry was working for him. Oh! And then see what meds the Columbine boys were on. Are any of these sufficiently well 'documented' for you, or would you like me to go on? Now who's laughing?
rarosera 3 years ago
Whoa. Dont even go there. I knew went to the same high school as Cho and was friends with the victims. I am fucking sick and tired of everyone blaming that on medications.
He was fucking mentally challenged, not all there in the head... and he was on paxil... 8 years ago.. and only took it for a few months.
He was constantly being referred to psychologists and mental facilities, but he never went.
VT happened because he did not seek psychiatric help or medication you fucking moron. Have respect
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
IhateH1pp13s - you ridiculous little shit. You think because you 'heard' about who and when and how long it's gonna add any validity to your argument? Well let me tell you something. I have personally known 4 people who commited suicide, all of them were on medication at the time, some had been on them for longer than others. They all complained about their meds, saying they were not suiting them and were making them feel 'dead' inside. Unless you're willing to do the research shut the fuck up.
rarosera 3 years ago
What the fuck are you talking about? I didnt hear about it... I KNEW them, asshole. I known people who killed themselves too. If people don't like their medicine... guess what... transfer to a different fucking doctor and get something else. Its not that hard. MY POINT: Cho needed psychiatric help. He didn't take his medicine... he never went to any sessions... and he was mentally ill. So STOP using Virginia Tech as an example for anti-psychiatry. Why do you think i have not done the research?
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
Don't pressume that because your meds are ok with you that THAT is the sum total. Many medication actually KILL the patients - this is recorded FACT. Your meds work fine, and that's good in a sense, but the fact that they work makes it all the easier for you to not seek a CURE. THAT (I think) is the basis of the scientolgist view. And I agree. Don't just treat the condition to be a productive member of society, CURE it instead. It is your health that is prime, not the society you serve.
rarosera 3 years ago
No one has the cures. That's why Psychiatry continues to do research. What's anybody else doing to find a cure? So what about the meantime? Should AIDs patients go off their meds becuase it doesn't cure them?
sbadd 3 years ago
Y'know, there are people who can vouch for Dianetics and Scientology, saying with 100% certainty that they didn't need any 'medications' to cure their hitherto unknown mental problems. You should really hear some of their stories sometime, mate. Psychiatry has admitted to not having any cures for the so called "diseases" they label people with. So if that's true, how is what they're doing a legitimate medical practice? The medical field treats the physical human condition with provable methods.
7tilsleep 3 years ago
It's natural for human being to deny any hidden disorders they may have and without doubt mentally unstable person is *truly* the man to judge for himself, dontcha' think? True, psychiatry does not have cures it's not some mumbo jumbo like dianetics which have no scientific proof on it nor proved records of ''cured'' people. Psychiatry cannot cure instatly people, it can help people recover from traumas, neurosis and personality disorders alike, mind is not body it does not recover that easily.
TrueNeutrality 3 years ago
My view of psichiatry is echoed by others here. Too much medicating, not enough help in recovering without medication, not enough study into causes of illnesses/diseases. Also, my friend, lets not forget that the psichiatric treatments lots of people recieve are forced on them - not because their 'unbalanced minds' are unwilling to accept help, but because those same minds have experienced the torture of some of the treatments before, on previous admissions.
rarosera 3 years ago
Wow! You should really make sure you know what you're talking about! Electroshock therapy is still used to treat severe depression...and it works. Go get a subscription to Ebsco host you science hating loser. (How bout that for hostility!) :)
At least psychology is based in science and not the psychotic ravings of a scam artist.
Bertball 3 years ago
Yes, and doctors used to treat fever with blood-letting. FACT! Perhaps we should try to outlaw all medicine while we're at it, eh?
The simple fact is that all science and medicine improves over time. Psychiatists are willing to admit that you would have received lesser quality, and indeed harmful treatment years ago. So, yes, I trust them.
And I am not on any medication.
sbadd 3 years ago
i agree with you that it is over prescribed. Back when i was a kid and first diagnosed with ADHD... it was a long exhausting process... now days it is just a few questions. But at least those who actually have it get the treatment they need.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
I believe you are guilty of "keeping an open mind."
I think it's important to be fair to Scientology's claims against Psychiatry. Many of them are partially valid. It's the extremes they go to that make them sound ridiculous. The field of Psychiatry is open to improvement, so it will improve. Church of Scientology cannot currently revoke their attacks on Psychiatry, so they are unwilling to look at the other side.
sbadd 3 years ago
As a scientologist I would not make fun of your problems with "ADD" I too had problems with communication growing up. So I know the deal.
However Anonymous have not looked into the pill industry with a close enough examination.
Sorry but this video is silly and foolish.
rosiertodd 3 years ago
You're just making a fool out of yourself, you know that right? You can bang on about this for as long as you want, nothing is going to change.
See you on the 12th of April Scilon.
KelarGridal 3 years ago
Whatever everybody has to be right about what they believe and make themselves right about what they believe. Everyone does that.
rosiertodd 3 years ago
Haha, don't even start with "Everyone has the right..." bullshit, you have NO rights in Scienology and you take them away from EVERYONE else who you consider wrong.
That's my belife and the belife of thousands if not tens of thousands of others.
Speaking of "examinations" do you know the fine details of YOUR "Religion"?
KelarGridal 3 years ago
KelarGridal.
I said "everybody has to be right about what they believe and make themselves right about what they believe. Everyone does that." Its a trait in people.
What I mean is no matter what a person believes, it seems they have to be and also make themselves right about it. Every seems to do this.
rosiertodd 3 years ago
yet your religion is trying to 'destroy' psychiatry and medications that treat disorders because some science fiction writer (who sucked) said it was evil.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
Excellent video!! 5 stars :D I too have ADD, I don't take medication for it (my personal choice and not one Psychiatrist has EVER tried to force medication on me)but I know how effective the medication can be for many people. Provided of course that the diagnosis is correct and the medication is tailored correctly to an individuals needs.
Adelanonymous 4 years ago
I'm not sure ANY psychiatrist actually forces medication on people.
Scientologists just constantly make up false claims against them to
1. Gain attention
2. Get a demographic for people that can not be helped by psychiatry... so they try to make it look evil
IhateH1pp13s 4 years ago
I am in know way affililated with CoS (I am in fact a student mental health nurse), but your point about psychiatrist not for medication upon people is not factual. Psychiatrist are lawfully allowed to detain, drug and even electro shock individuals aginst their will. Please be aware of the facts before posting. Thanks.
molyneux1000 3 years ago 3
I didn't say they went allowed. I said they don't go around forcing every ADD patient, or Anxious/Depressed person with medication. In fact, i saw a psych recently and she wanted me OFF my meds, but I said no.
If Scientologists are so pissed that Psychiatrists have AUTHORITY to do these things, why the fuck arnt they pissed off at the govt, police, etc.
And on the RARE case they treat someone against their will, theyre hostile and will endanger the public. I dont understand their cult.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
I don't know why you have focused on ADD. The my rely was not alluding specifically to that diagnosis. That said, my point is still valid, psychiatrist are allowed, and do detain and medicate individuals against their will. The question of how often is a different matter which I have not brought up.
As I am not a member or advocate or CoS, I do not wich to comment for them. My point was more a matter of fact.
molyneux1000 3 years ago 2
You are exagerrating your point. Yes, Psychiatrists have the power to have someone committed against their will. So do the families of the mentally ill patient. They also have the power to commit them to an institution.
They detain and treat those who will either go around killing people and raping women... or they could endanger themselves. The fact is that there are more people with this ability so why focus on psychs. They help more than harming. What do you mean why did I focus on ADHD?
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
This is the problem with psychiatry. The imprison persons whom have never commited an offence while excusing people who have commited some of the most heanous of crimes.
I'm from the UK and as far as I know here, individuals families do not have the power of the MHA. Might be different were you are.
molyneux1000 3 years ago 2
Ah, thats why. Families commit mentally ill relatives to psychiatric hospitals. Again... Every authority figure; family, doctors, psychiatrists, judges... they all can do it too. Its not like mentally ill people are sent to Auzwitz or a death camp. Have you been in a psychiatric hospital? Shit, they have better accommodation's than i do. Psychiatrists have to treat patients ethically or they lose their license and thrown in jail. Again, thats over here. I cant speak for the UK.
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
I am a student mental health nurse. Just completed a placement of a psychiatric ward.
molyneux1000 3 years ago
So how many times have you commented on this video? Didn't I tell you the last time to back your claims with proof... you still have not done that.
And if its a "stupid video"... stop watching it... retard
IhateH1pp13s 4 years ago
well done
300ussuriaga 4 years ago
First of all, thank you for sharing. Truth is the best cure for anything. My personal thoughts is that medication is over-used and there are definitely abuses, however, there are health stories too. The misapplication of anything is bad. I think a watch dog group is helpful, and one of the things that keeps COS members blind. Whats my message, FANATICAL beliefs label things as ENTIRELY. The truth is usually a combination not an ultimate.
DescartesActivist 4 years ago
No doubt in my mind that it is over diagnosed and abused.
When I was diagnosed as a kid it was a LONG DRAWN OUT process... took weeks. Now, you answer some questions... and BOOM... you got it. Gives people who ACTUALLY have it a bad name.
IhateH1pp13s 4 years ago
Oh yeah and I subscribed because I want to see and learn from your skilled techniques:) since I'm learning.
I've seen the hacky CoS vids--miserable really.
AnonOutreach 4 years ago
Excellently done vid. Informative, too
AnonOutreach 4 years ago
It needs to be an individual choice whether or not one wishes to take psych drugs.
Not all drugs work the same way on the same people.
AnonOutreach 4 years ago
there are so many people that have been helped by medications that are specifically for mental disorders that it is rediculous for scientology to suggest that psychiatry is such an evil threat. perhaps this was because LRH was in denial about his own illness.
jnycnuk 4 years ago
Plus.... LRH died with traces of Prescription medications in his system. But they are so closed off and programmed to deny anything that questions their beliefs (A.K.A brainwashing)... that they attack the wrong method of treatment and ignore documented evidence that proves them wrong. I want to write a huge paper on all this, but none of my classes have anything to do with this.... (My adderall kicked in... if you couldnt tell... haha)
IhateH1pp13s 4 years ago
it is up to the individual person how THEY wish to be treated, it is no one else's business to tell anyone what they should or should not do. ITS A PEROSNAL DECISION....As in all aspects of life there are the good and the bad, it isnt just with physicians, its teachers, lawyers etc. One error or bad experience does not make the whole entity fraudulant or harmful
MARYBLEUZ 4 years ago
is that it ??? are you still taking medications ?
53whatever 4 years ago
What do you mean?
And yes... still taking the Adderall.
IhateH1pp13s 4 years ago
I am not so blind not to admit that. But in doing so we cannot condemn a whole branch or system for the actions of a few. If scientology wants to complain about what help is been offered y dont they proved an alternative free of charge or strings attached... Oh wait they will never do that as there is no profit involved. That's an less your a fire man been bribed after 7/11 to take the Narcanon rundown! Yea that's right! I went there! XD
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We do not forget
bazz013 4 years ago
I agree that each is to there own. But I have known people who have been giving drugs and it dose change them making them less responsive. Sim