I like how this puts civil laws into perspective with segregation, instead of being offensive to either straight or homosexual people. It actually made me laugh, since I am actually knowledgeable about segregation laws that took place in America. This video helps highlight the real issues, and not just the bible swinging "issues" of some other people.
Who gives a shit who you marry a man a woman or a goat... Go do what you want... As long as all you queers out there don't want to get married in the house of God.. I could care less
@xenex23, what do you mean by "you queers"? Is that mean as an insult or a token of appreciation toward LGBT people? And on that note, are insults of any kind allowed in the house of God?
@SeanChapin1 Definition of the word Queer mean Weird or Strange... So I calls it as I see it. The Word Gay means happy, and there is nothing happy about being a Queer/Homosexual
@xenex23, I don't understand why you think there is nothing happy about being gay, and I don't understand the ignorance and possible hatred behind your thoughts on gay people.
@SeanChapin1 Wickedness never was happiness... But I don't hate the people who are Queer I hate the the life style... Nothing but a bunch of morbid mutual masterbaters... And just on another note two people of the same sex can't have Sex... the act of sexual intercourse can only happen between members of the opposite sex.Sure they can stimulate each other sex organs. But children can not come as a result of it so its as meaning less has jerking it in the shower.
@lilkush909 Sorry you couldn't be more wrong... I'm happily married(to a Woman) and have been for almost ten years... We also have two children together(some you butt chugging flamers can't ever do with you ass buddies)
And I guess if a queer can find happiness by some guys hairy ass... then what ever... I really think the most messed up thing is that people who are in that queers can't handle being called one.
@xenex23, your comment is filled with disrespect, which I do not tolerate. If you wish to leave further comments on my videos, please feel free to send me a private message explaining how you will treat others with the dignity and respect that you deserve.
@ChieMiyagawa The value of everyones soul is great in the sight of God... But the law of God is and always will be that homosexuality is wrong... Love the sinner not the sin... Granted I also need to learn this... But I never did claim to be perfect
@xenex23, if I wanted to be nice to someone, I could come up with many other ways to address them then saying "you queers". Could you explain to me why you chose this specific phrase?
@MaryWaterton, your comment is ridiculously ignorant (anyone can get AIDS, not just "homosexuals") and infested with hate (round up gay people and send them to Iran because "we have too many, they have none"?), not to mention unnecessary and inappropriate. I welcome open conversations but do not tolerate disgusting ridicule. Your comment has been deleted, and you have been blocked from this channel.
Hey Sean, glad you called out the offensive and vulgar responses. As a Christian, I am horrified by the use of the words Hate and Christ in the epithets hurled at you as a slur and in condemnation. This is not what Jesus preached.
I do believe that if we stopped long enough to discern what we are really talking about when we talk about same-sex marriage, we would embrace and support these relationships as witness to the gift and mystery of love, the greatest gift from our Creator. Hang in the
@MyVaIentine, I welcome open and polite conversations, but I do not tolerate inappropriate and vulgar comments ("So if you don't want me to hate you, just stop being a little f__got and accept Christ Almighty!"). Your comment has been removed, and you have been blocked from my channel.
@anticristero As for me being a "moral coward", hows that possible? The heroic one, the brave one is the one who speaks out against the popular opinion isn't it? It is entirely popular to be gay. EVERY frigging show has to have a gay or two in it. Every school extols the virtues of being gay lol. You have a very distorted view of your own politic here, mate.
"Gay is ok, and gay is the way" is entirely rampant in this day and age. I'm the odd one out; and thus I am anything BUT a moral coward.
@anticristero People should never be given jobs by those who don't want to hire them.
I'm white, and when I go to a Japanese, Thai or Indian restaurant, I want the ENTIRE experience to transport me to the specific country of origin. I don't want some black or white or Mexican guy in the back preparing my Sushi, then handing it to a native or white gay waiter who skips along and flamboyantly asserts his sexual nature as he delivers my food! Please! It doesn't belong. Just grow up.
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Gays have equal rights in america but i think we should start segregating you people, then we can recriminalize sodomy and kick filthy gay-straight alliances out of our schools.
@stevepcb, you're free to have your own beliefs and likes, but that the same time, everyone deserves to be treated with dignity, respect and full equal civil human rights.
@matrix13thfloor, if you think this video is over the top, then I dare say your comments are a tad hysterical and catty. Homosexuality is not destroying society, and furthermore, homosexuality has been around for a very long time in virtually every animal species on our planet, serving its purpose in strengthening families by helping raise the young and also probably being nature's check against overpopulation, which I believe helps keep the species and nature itself in balance.
"Homosexuality has been most rampant JUST AS kingdoms were falling apart."
LOL. No. Just no. Ancient Greece had homosexuality and is known as one of the finest civilizations in history. And there are plenty examples of backwards states who are ran and have been run by heterosexuals so your generalization fails completely anyways.
"Homosexuality has NEVER existed in the animal kingdom"
LOL wrong again. Do you ever actually look at facts when you come up with opinions?
@SeanChapin1 I'm all for gays doing whatever they want to each other; go for it buddy. Just don't broadcast it and shove it down our throats! Nobody NEEDS TO KNOW, hell I don't broadcast my sexual frustrations and fulfillments, preferences & positions and "demand" everyone to take notice and give me some credit for it! LMAO!!!!
@matrix13thfloor, are you here to engage in an open conversation with me, or are you here to incite me with your confrontational, antagonizing and vitriolic tone?
@SeanChapin1 You are insulted about something because of a little sarcasm? I am being open, I am engaging in conversation; but I am Irish...so the sarcasm is NATURAL...are you racist?
I only ask this because of your accusatory, judgmental response to me. Maybe you don't like us sarcastic Irish...but it is how God made us, after all.
@matrix13thfloor, a year ago, when a constituent asked Barney Frank "Why are you supporting this Nazi (health care) policy?" Frank responded by saying, "On what planet do you spend most of your time?", called her approach "vile, contemptible nonsense," and closed by saying "Trying to have a conversation with you would be like arguing with a dining room table." I sincerely feel similarly with you. FYI, I ensure that the comments to my videos maintain a level of dignity and respect.
LOL at gays shoving things down your throat when it's the heterosexuals who've been in complete control of the politics, legal system, and cultural norms here in America and imposing their will on homosexuals whether they liked it or not. If you call 2 guys kissing in public as "broadcasting" their sexuality, then I can easily say that every heterosexual romantic comedy is part of a heterosexual agenda and a political statement making gays feel abnormal and like outcasts.
When you ask for equality just remember, when you want some big strong guy to grab your hand as you are falling to your death, when he says "no, let that scrawny girl do it instead....all things being equal", it was your choice!
There IS NO equality and nor should there be. People can CHOOSE to treat others equally (Christian teaching; but it too has limits) but that is their CHOICE, it cannot be IMPOSED upon them.
There IS a difference and it is RIGHT to differentiate.
@matrix13thfloor, to be clear, I think I speak for many gay people when I say that we don't ask for equality, we are entitled to and demand equality, specifically the fundamental right of equal protection under the law per the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution that is the supreme law of our country. People that do not choose to treat others equally accordingly violate this law.
@SeanChapin1 No way Jose! You don't grasp it do you? Yes everyone deserves equal PROTECTION, but that does NOT mean blanket equality!
Will you hire a scrawny girl to lift heavy stuff? Will you hire a invalid to run errands across town? Will you give a job to a man with a lower IQ when you'd PREFER the higher IQ? WAY too many examples to provide. The answer is no. Hell, do the Chinese hire Whites or blacks for Chinese restaurants? NO! And I don't want them to either btw (ruins the atmosphere).
@SeanChapin1 PROTECTION, not some puffy, emotional "equality" bullshit, there is no such thing in reality. Get off your BraveNewWorld mindset and back down to earth buddy.
@matrix13thfloor, I think there should be equality. No matter who we are, we are fundamentally all the same with the equal ability to live our lives with love and/or hate, and we all have our own unique gifts and talents to share in this world. Our country has prospered as it has steered toward true equality over the decades, evolving with achieved strength from diversity and our differences and capitalizing on everyone's gifts to make us all better.
@SeanChapin1 Dude, I honestly care not one mote if you want to be gay. None. I DO care about the BS Gay propaganda that gays INSIST must be in the schools, I do care that they think they can push Ministers to marry them AGAINST their beliefs. I do care that they think they can FORCE the VAST majority of citizens to accept their deviant behavior as an EQUAL STATUS.
Our country hasn't been PROSPERING over the past 30 years (longer even), its been GOING DOWN THE TOILET. Are you joking?
@SeanChapin1 Fluffy equality and real equality are two entirely different things pal. There is NO REAL EQUALITY; NONE; it doesn't exist and cannot exist. Go seek your beautiful utopia in Bolshevik Russia, k?
So you've basically just admitted that you don't even care to strive towards relative equality because absolute equality is unachievable. That you're alright with bigotry, marginalized groups of individuals, and could give 2 shits about your fellow man that you don't relate with. So my question is do you think Sean is really going to care about the opinion of somebody who's so unabashedly selfish, hateful, and unsympathetic?
What will happen to you when you die? Have you ever told lies, stolen, used God's name in vain, or looked at someone with lust? If yes, then you are a lying, theiving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart. When you die & stand before God you'll be guilty of breaking His law. The bible says you'll end up in Hell! But God sent God his Son Jesus to die for your sins, & He rose from the dead on the third day. If you'll believe the Gospel(Jesus died for your sins & was resurrected) you'll be saved!
@SeanChapin1 Homosexuality is a choice. You NEVER need to act upon it. Pedophilia is also a choice. As is Bestiality as is masturbation as is electing to drink coke instead of pepsi. You have a PREDISPOSITION to those desires, but that doesn't mean you SHOULD act upon them nor that others should have to ACCEPT your "choice"/feeling/desire/discovery.
I'm not equating gay with pedophilia, other than both are sexually deviant & both parties honestly FEEL this is they way they are.
@matrix13thfloor Even if sexual orientation is a choice, you still haven't defined why two adult citizens in a free country, which has freedom of religion and individual liberty as its foundational promises, shouldn't be able to choose who they love.
You also haven't provided a shred of evidence to show that sexual orientation is chosen.
@TheLightAndTheWay You never listened; I don't care at all about your sex-preferences. And I don't want you to care about MINE EITHER! Stop spamming the world with your perversities; thats all.
I don't have to prove that Santa Claus, Zeus, God, Ra, Thor, unicorns, or the Easter Bunny AREN'T real. It is up to any nutcase who insists that they ARE real to offer some proof... which you can't.... because they're all imaginary.
@matrix13thfloor, homosexuality is an immutable trait deeply rooted in biology, and the choice for gay people is to live honestly (as gay) or live falsely (as straight). I choose to live honestly because I believe that those who are closest to me deserve this honestly. If I lived as straight, it wouldn't be fair to my spouse who deserves my true love, and it wouldn't be fair to my children who deserve parents who truly love each other.
@SeanChapin1 If I like tigers...really really like tigers; actually prefer them over women...do I act "honestly" towards my fellows and bring all this out in the open, parade myself and my tigress down the streets and demand rights? You have a foolhardy position and defending it is trite, pitiful and pathetic.
There is no need to "live a lie" as a strait, just be celibate! Or if you cannot gain victory over your weakness, then do it but don't involve everyone else in your failure!
@matrix13thfloor, invoking pedophilia, bestiality, masturbation, incest and polygamy is furthering a slippery slope that is driven by fear mongering. What makes pedophilia and bestiality different from homosexuality is consent. Regarding polygamy and incest, though I don't personally believe in it, I am unsure of any reason why they should be denied equal protection of the laws. However, that is a different subject matter.
@SeanChapin1 Bullshit! There are animals that more than consent! I remember this one dog, anytime someone bent over it would jump right up and start giving it to them. The frigging thing was more than willing, it was initiating. So if that person wanted to haul off their pants and let the dog have it...? Consent? Very bad argument.
That's true that if you're gay that you don't have to act on your natural attraction. I certainly haven't. I've never kissed, had sex, or had a relationship with a man. I've resisted any homosexual feelings/acts that I had and tried to have heterosexual feelings (which was FAIL). But that was always my personal choice.
You said: "that doesn't mean you SHOULD act upon them".
Maybe. But there isn't any compelling reason NOT to act upon them either.
@SeanChapin1 NOBODY can blame you for having these "weaknesses" we all have weaknesses of one sort or another (drunkenness, drugs, computer addiction, ass-kissing(non-sexual btw), violent tendencies, overeating, laziness, deception etc. Does that mean everyone should ACCEPT those weaknesses and EMBRACE them? Does that mean we should GIVE IN to them? NO!
Nobody can blame you for having gay tendencies; but it is YOUR STRUGGLE, not something to give in to, something to gain victory OVER!
@matrix13thfloor, homosexuality is not a weakness, and on a side note, I don't understand the need to put quotes around the word weakness. As I said earlier, homosexuality benefits society by (1) reproducing via artificial insemination, (2) raising children in loving, nurturing homes, (3) strengthening existing families as uncles/aunts and (4) serving as nature's check against overpopulation.
@matrix13thfloor, it is your choice to not accept or embrace homosexuality, but to me, there is no rational reason to consider homosexuality as less than heterosexuality, and such consideration suggests prejudice, ignorance, fear and possibly hatred. I am not sure who you are, but I understand that many vitriolically anti-gay people are gay themselves and possibly hate themselves for it. If that might be the case with you, then I hope that one day you find your peace in this world.
@SeanChapin1 LoL, I always find this sort of accusation so hilarious, were it not so sad. You want me to consider the "gay way"...because after all, maybe im "insecure in my sexuality" or whatever huh? lol
Honestly, i've had friends that are/were gay (yes some stopped) and I have 0 reason to consider such attempts at conversion.
I'm not a homosexual, and if It was one of my weaknesses, i'd ignore it the best I could & move along in life.
@matrix13thfloor You know people who "stopped" being gay? Are those the guys you met at your las Exodus meeting? Just keep telling yourself that you're 100% heterosexual and definitely not gay at all. I'm sure that'll work swimmingly.
@incredulosity Just as an FYI for *everyone* who might stumble into this video, the 2 original co-founders of EXODUS INTERNATIONAL were 2 men who were initially committed to the underlying concept/philosophy of that ministry. Why, they even "matriculated" from the program and, as expected, got married...to EACH OTHER, in a ceremony conducted by the Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches. I am NOT making this up! Please see other U Tubers where Michael Bussee discusses that.
What about someone who's bisexual? Would that person have the right to both types of marriage, traditional and gay-marriage? That wouldn't be polygamy, as neither spouse would be of the same sex. See, when you allow special rules for one 'kind' of marriage equality alongside traditional marriage, then the arguments used to support gay-marriage will be used for anything. Thus it allows a slippery slope to become the logic behind the law and so will the law become perverted. People > Law.
@DOHC2L First, SOME churches already DO perform same-sex marriages. And no one is saying this must be performed in a church. Civil marriage ceremonies are as legal under law as religious marriages. It's the LEGAL license that is of import...the EQUALITY. Second, Yes, of course, that would be polygamy. Plurality of marriage mates is illegal. Period. So, let's not start hypothesizing pure fiction.
@TheSchmuckLook So to the bisexual, you would have him discriminate in order to choose who to marry? That person must choose one mate to marry, for whom do they choose? See now my point about some types of discrimination necessarily being a choice of morality?
@DOHC2L Life is like that...when coming to a T intersection, one MUST chose right or left, so, yes, a CHOICE is necessary. Choose which way to go. Going one way or another is not morality..it's to not impede further traffic on the same street. Or do YOU not see the analogy?
If gay-marriage were moral churches would perform gay marriage. Yet, gay-marriage supporters preach that it is immoral to deny gay people from marriage. Government and law is not the moral authority, never can it be. The law cannot change people's moral views. People who say the law must be changed don't respect the will of the majority of people who morally oppose homosexuality. Thus the gay-marriage advocates call people opposed to gay marriage immoral because of their moral beliefs.
@DOHC2L, the United States of America is a constitutional republic, and our federal and state constitutions are the supreme law of the land. No citizen can be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law or denied the equal protection of the laws, as stated in the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, and the will of the people can not enact laws (such as banning same-sex marriage) that violate this amendment short of amending the Federal Constitution itself.
This video is insulting to black people. You equate racial discrimination with the opposition to gay marriage. Thousands of years before it was a political institution, marriage was a religious institution. Now homosexuals seek confirmation from the political because they can't obtain it from the religious. They water down the institution of marriage from a water-downed version of marriage: political rather than the religious. They demand the political be the authority so as to leverage it.
@DOHC2L Discrimination is discrimination, regardless of who or whom it's perpetrated against. For thousands of years it was legal for a man to have multiple wives, as it is today in some countries. But, in those countries women HAVE to wear burkhas or worse and have very few rights. Are you proposing this?
@TheSchmuckLook Not all discrimination is improper as you imply it is. There is content-of-character. Haven't you ever met a person, and based on their personality you didn't like them. Maybe it's just that they're a loud-mouth and likes things you don't. Well, you discriminate against them based on those reasons. What you imply is that to oppose gay marriage is blind discrimination, rather its not, its just that we see it as immoral. To discriminate on moral reasons is not ignorance.
@DOHC2L Yes ALL discrimination based on race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, any basic group of non-harmful people because the group of majority doesn't like them is improper. Non-harmful is the key phrase. No blood sacrifices for 'religion' no hating like the KKK, that sort of harmful. Yes, we discriminate rightfully, against poison. Whether it's body poison or mind poison. Your type of discrimination is only disguised as morality; it is really fear.
@TheSchmuckLook You discriminate in every choice you make, not just people you associate with. If you go to restaurant and order from the menu, what you do not order from the menu you've discriminated against. Hence the old phrase, "discriminating tastes." There is a stale architecture of thought in sociology known as 'conflict theory' which teaches a basis of discrimination, regardless of the condition. You're ideology is based in that school of thought. But it's a heartless wrongness.
@DOHC2LWell, of course, we 'discriminate' in everything we do. It's called making choices. I choose to believe and practice we are ALL created equal and have the same rights and obligations under the law and that the law MUST treat us all as equals or we can no longer be called free. Sorry about your choice, but it IS the one to go down in flames throughout history. But bias and prejudice will always lose to common, good sense.
@TheSchmuckLook What you call common sense I see as bias. What I call common sense you see as prejudice. So we're stuck having to argue it out. But you'd have the government legislate so your beliefs can win out. That is not democratic, that is not democracy. Gay rights are not civil rights, they're not human rights, they're not inalienable rights, they're only claimed as rights so long as you perceive opposition to that lifestyle to be the popular will of the people as it is today.
Yeah it's not democratic. It's constitutional. Newsflash our country is not a direct democracy. It's a Constitutional Republic. Our government has democratic elements of course but thank goodness our forefathers didn't decide to base our entire political system on the often uneducated masses.
Democracy is a nice fluffy buzzword that has a lot of positive connotations about it, but the fact is, like anything, democracy is not always best in every and all instances.
I actually agree with you that not all discrimination is improper. But certainly in the case of gay marriage, the anti-equality position is improper discrimination. There is no good reason for not allowing gay marriage.
A group of people seeing it as immoral without an actual secular foundation is not justifiable. In the meantime opponents of gay marriage themselves are the ones being unethical and inflicting pain on others who aren't even doing anything to them
@TheSchmuckLook I said no such thing. It's just that the 'gay movement' seems to embrace a lot of shocking beliefs. How it's not the gay movement, rather its the LGBT rights issue as your side frames the debate... that's just more shocking to conventional thinking average Americans. The whole trans-gender issue will end up deflating your core ideals as its a slippery slope you advocate. I say your argument invites the polygamist argument. Would you discriminate against them? Or tolerate?
@TheSchmuckLook For thousands of years it was NOT legal for a man to have multiple wives... it was SOCIALLY acceptable, but the law didn't say one way or the other. It was a matter of tradition. Eventually that tradition faded from the mainstream. It is the moral equivalent for gay-marriage advocates to insist on a binding legalism to define marriage as it would be for polygamists. The law shouldn't be crafted to define tradition as you would have it.
@DOHC2L, marriage is a fundamental civil right, and laws that deny the right of marriage to same-sex couples do nothing more than enshrine the notion that opposite-sex couples are superior to same-sex couples; because these laws disadvantage gays and lesbians without any rational justification, such laws violate the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
@DOHC2L, This video compares the segregation between marriage and other recognized forms of relationships (domestic partnerships, civil unions, etc.) to the segregation of Jim Crow water fountains between white and colored people. I produced this video to honor the African-American civil rights movement as well as to illustrate the similarities between the African-American civil rights movement and LGBT civil rights movement. I do not understand how this video insults black people.
Equal either means equal or it doesn't. If you allow the government to say any 'group' is not equal, you de facto allow the government to say YOU are not equal. I testified at the Vermont State Senate Judiciary Committee Public Hearing in favor of equal marriage rights. The bill passed. I'm hetero. And I'm not scared.
@TheSchmuckLook That's a fascinating view, but its not the government to say who is equal and who is not. That view, that the government has to make people equal, robs individuals choice over that struggle. Then it fails to be moral decision, and when morality is legislated and not an individual choice it robs people of spirit.
@DOHC2LNo, only YOU can say, do, think what is moral...being equal does not force you to be immoral. Only equal under the law. Dumbness, on the other hand, forces you to be scared.
I'm sorry but the government legislates over moral decisions all the time and I doubt you've been up in arms about every single court decision, every element of public policy that affects local individuals or international ones, etc. And yeah, when morality was legislated against gays, many homosexuals were robbed of their spirit as you'd say. But did you care then? No, you are only bothered when it's an issue you have a bias for.
@MaryWaterton, there are different kinds of oppression than that of the physical sense. I don't know who you are, or where you're from, but I've been to the deep south, I've re-traced the civil rights movement, met a lot of key people who were deeply involved in the movement, and they'll tell you, it wasn't just the physical oppression they were trying to end but the non-physical ones as well. They were unable to marry mixed-color, unable to vote, had no rights, & that's where this rings true.
@MaryWaterton, the point that you said, where "gay people are forcing their views on the rest of America" it's more the other way around. What people believe in, or what they do in their own homes has no impact on you, and therefore, you shouldn't worry yourself over it. Nobody asked you to watch this video and make rude and profane comments. If you don't like it, don't watch it, and don't get involved. I believe everybody should have the same rights, regardless if they are straight or gay.
@666WarriorKnight, your comment was not just extremely hateful and vitriolic, it was profane and went way past the line of respect. Your comment has been deleted, and you have been blocked from this channel.
Are you a critical thinker? Do you question the information that you hear and learn? Or are you an unquestioning sheep who follows orders given to him even if they're unethical and inhumane?
I think there are definitely religious individuals who are critical and independent thinkers and believe what they do for good, solid reasons. But there are also sheep.
If you're wrong about your religion, then you're committing unethical acts. I hope your belief comes from a sound place
@MaryWaterton, the video is an analogy of the Jim Crow laws and paints the similarities of the separate but equal circumstances between straight marriage/gay civil unions and whites/colored drinking fountains. Both the African-American and LGBT civil rights movements come from harsh severity that are similar and/or dissimilar to each other depending on how you look at them, and to make the connections among the similarities doesn't mean to automatically denigrate one movement beneath the other.
@MaryWaterton, to answer your questions, I am not aware of anyone who was captured & shipped to another continent with a 50% chance of survival, paraded in chains on an auction block to be sold to the highest bidder, violently placed in forced labor for generations, systematically lynched or called 3/5 of a man in the Constitution strictly for being gay. I am pretty sure that there are African Americans who have who are also gay, but I am not sure how relevant that might be to you.
@MaryWaterton, I could also ask a few questions in return, as there are hardships that gays have faced that are unique to them (such as gay youth being isolated and rejected by their families for being gay, leading to depression, disruptive behavior and higher suicide rates), but I think that that would be an antagonistic effort that would further a divide rather than help bridge the two movements together in unity regardless of our similarities and differences in unity.
@MaryWaterton, at the same time, Brian McNaught says that "every minority group in world history, including African Americans, has referenced the struggles of other minority groups in articulating their feelings of oppression. The songs of solidarity sung by slaves in cotton fields referenced the flight of the Jews from Pharaoh’s Egypt." Are there hardships that Jewish people have faced that are worse than African-Americans? One could argue the Holocaust, which was utterly abominable.
@MaryWaterton, it is true that slavery happened before the Holocaust, but my belief is that had the Holocaust happened before slavery, I would strongly believe that African-Americans would mean no insult to Jewish people with the songs sung in the cotton fields, and I am sure that LGBT Americans would mean no insult to African-Americans with any connections between the two movements (and with this video, I mean to honor the African-American civil rights movement).
@MaryWaterton, lastly, you may want to watch another video that I've done earlier this year in celebration of Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday and holiday (look it up on my channel - "Martin Luther King Jr. Tribute"). I made this video to honor him, the African-American civil rights movement and his vision of equality and peace from the perspective of an LGBT citizen. At the end, I included a quote that I think says it all, "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
@MaryWaterton, what troubles me from your post is that you seem to come from a place of ignorance, fear or hatred towards gay people (or you might possibly think twice before coming across with an inciting tone and calling gay people "frauds"). If I upset you in any way with this video, know that I deeply respect the severity of oppression of African-Americans and their movement towards civil rights, and I hope that one day we can all be equal and free no matter who we are.
@SeanChapin1 ... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyone that takes a stand against your fraudulent arguments is laden with ignorance, fear, and hatred ... according to YOU. Fact is, you homosexuals are not an oppressed minority. You are not a newly discovered race or sex worthy of civil rights protection. What you are is a bunch of militant sodomites intent upon forcing your views on the rest of America.
@MaryWaterton you say that homosexuals are not an oppressed minority while in many countries people are tortured & put to death because they are gay. Gay kids are bullied and beaten in schools.Many who come out to their parents are disowned and kicked out of the house. In some states employers are allowed to discriminate against homosexuals as are those offering housing. In many states gays are not allowed to adopt or become teachers. Not allowed in the military or marry the one they love.
So it's only okay when your social group is the one forcing your views on the rest of America? Um k.
But of course it's such a crime that the gays dare stand up for themselves and demand certain equal rights with their heterosexual counterparts, because in MaryWaterton's caste system homosexuals should just know their role and give up their own desires so as not to cause discomfort to her highness! Please go ahead and step on our backs so as not to dirty your feet!
Is the homosexual civil movement exactly the same as the African-American one? No. And neither are the same as the female one. Or any other one. But are their similarities, overlaps, and continuities between all of them? Absolutely.
The separate water fountains are similar to the separate institution of marriage (in this case heterosexual marriage and homosexual civil union). Different treatment of social groups creates an unnecessary social stratification of society.
Sean I am so happy to call you a good friend people like you are making change beyond your understanding. I know some day when we are all equale you will have had a big part in that.
@depfox, Thanks Jay, and back at you and the Leffews- I wouldn't be surprised to see your family will be a household name by the time everything is said and done. Still working hard at an idea for a gay adoption video!
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.
Romans 1: 26 For this cause YHVH gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
I don't see why this is such a big issue. Around 4% of the US is Gay. And more than 50% of all marriages end in divorce. If the same occurs for gay marriages, than all this fuss is to make 2% of this country happy. When did such a minority spur such an overblown issue?
I have yet to see a tangible benefit from marriage other than tax relief. I could understand the angle of trying to end "injustice" but this is just a waste of time.
@viralarchitect, regardless of happiness and how many people are gay, the issue is about constitutional equality towards all identifiable and suspect minority classes with respect to the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment. Frankly, I don't see why it is such a big issue to deny the civil right of marriage to gay people, and I also don't understand the need to quote the word "injustice" in your comment. Do you have a problem with gay people getting legally civilly married?
@SeanChapin1 The right to marry has not been taken away from anyone. Everyone has the right to marry a member of the opposite sex. Part of 4% of this country wants to marry members of the same sex. I'm willing to bet that a similar statistic would turn up people who want all kinds of things legalized that the majority of people don't.
Again, you can still be a couple and do everything a straight couple would do, just not get tax relief.
@viralarchitect "You can still do everything a straight couple would do, just not get a tax relief." That's not equal! Calling it a civil union is not equal! This is about equality. Everyone has a right to marry someone of the opposite sex, yes. But gay people are attracted to the same sex. Why would we want to marry someone of the opposite sex? What if the situation was flipped and one could only marry someone of the same sex? Would you marry someone of the same sex?
@viralarchitect Yeah exactly the same way Jews shouldn't have synagogues since they can enjoy their Religious Freedom in a church! Try not to think, I can tell that it is hard for you.
@ExplorationB, we were surprised too when we arrived and found out about the middle fountain ourselves...we high-fived after making this discovery :).
@anticristero, I think I agree with you that the strongest way to make someone think about this subject is to tell stories of discrimination caused by the differences of recognized relationships (Harold and Clay from Sonoma County is a great example, as well as Kristin and Teresa's story of their hospital experience in Fresno). This video was meant to illustrate gay marriage from another more lighthearted perspective.
it is a civil rights issue. there are 1400 rights accorded to heterosexuals thru marriage that are denied to glbt partners. that, my friend, is unequal, and discrimination.
@newyorkequality, I believe that there are many parallels between both civil rights movement, and this video honors the African-American civil rights movement by using the fountain in a symbolic manner. Also, as Julian Bond (NAACP Chairman) has said before, "gay rights aren't special rights in any way. It isn't special to be free from discrimination - that is an ordinary, universal entitlement of citizenship". And there is value in both hetero and homosexuality besides natural procreation.
@newyorkequality, put another way, homosexuality benefits society in a number of ways, including procreation through artificial insemination, adoption of children into the loving, nurturing homes of same-gender parents, gay uncles/aunts helping raise their nephews/nieces, and homosexuality probably being nature's check against overpopulation. Honestly, there isn't a reason to disapprove of homosexuality, which renders those who do as fearful, ignorant, bigoted, prejudiced and possibly hateful.
@newyorkequality contemporary opposite sex marriage is itself a "special right". The idea of "traditional" marriage is actually quite new. Prior to 300 years ago, no one except for the very wealthy ever got married, and even those marriages were arranged by the parents of the betrothed. Marriage was nothing more than a business proposition, it had nothing to do with preserving society. But if you want to go even further back all the way to biblical tradition (continued)
@DeimosSaturn which is essentially what EVERY SINGLE ANTI GAY MARRIAGE political advocacy group bases their argument of what a "traditional family" means, the bible actually states that marriage is NOT between 1 man and 1 woman, instead, it states that marriage is between 1 man and 1 OR MORE women. And yet that's illegal. You know what other biblical traditions are illegal? (continued)
Slavery! Yes, that's right, even Jesus himself said that slaves should obey their masters. He was even considerate enough to provide specific instructions on how one should beat their slaves. Not too harsh but not too soft! Hooray for tradition!
Another biblical tradition that isn't recognized by law: Capital punishment for working on the Sabbath. herp derp derp!
One more thing, there is no law in the US that says divorce, fornication, and adultery are illegal between two consenting adults. Guess what else! In most of the 50 states, sodomy (that's any sexual act not intended for procreation including intercourse when the woman isn't ovulating) is PERFECTLY LEGAL! So really, if you think about it, it's straight marriage that is the "special right". HURR DURR!!!
@newyorkequality I suggest that unless your rights are being denied you just shut up. Unless you are gay you have no idea of the bigotry and discrimination we face. There are no special rights except for the special rights you are holding for yourself. Rights are for all citizens not just certain people. This country needs to honor equal rights for all. Not special rights for bigots like newyorkinequality.
The depressing part is that this had to be made. The parallels are so obvious that I'm left wondering if history classes still cover the civil rights movement.
I like how this puts civil laws into perspective with segregation, instead of being offensive to either straight or homosexual people. It actually made me laugh, since I am actually knowledgeable about segregation laws that took place in America. This video helps highlight the real issues, and not just the bible swinging "issues" of some other people.
Good job.
ravenssilence 9 months ago
Who gives a shit who you marry a man a woman or a goat... Go do what you want... As long as all you queers out there don't want to get married in the house of God.. I could care less
xenex23 11 months ago
@xenex23, what do you mean by "you queers"? Is that mean as an insult or a token of appreciation toward LGBT people? And on that note, are insults of any kind allowed in the house of God?
SeanChapin1 11 months ago
@SeanChapin1 Definition of the word Queer mean Weird or Strange... So I calls it as I see it. The Word Gay means happy, and there is nothing happy about being a Queer/Homosexual
xenex23 11 months ago
@xenex23, I don't understand why you think there is nothing happy about being gay, and I don't understand the ignorance and possible hatred behind your thoughts on gay people.
SeanChapin1 11 months ago 3
@SeanChapin1 Wickedness never was happiness... But I don't hate the people who are Queer I hate the the life style... Nothing but a bunch of morbid mutual masterbaters... And just on another note two people of the same sex can't have Sex... the act of sexual intercourse can only happen between members of the opposite sex.Sure they can stimulate each other sex organs. But children can not come as a result of it so its as meaning less has jerking it in the shower.
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vechorik 5 months ago
@xenex23 Well I'm gay and I'm very happy that I'm gay. Don't talk like you know what's happening in everybody's life.
ace85 10 months ago
@ace85 No you're a Queer... And I could care less whether or not you're happy about that.
xenex23 10 months ago
@xenex23, I think you do care.
SeanChapin1 10 months ago
@xenex23 there is happiness in being a homo at least i know who i am. most who bash are in the closet fyi
lilkush909 10 months ago
@lilkush909 Sorry you couldn't be more wrong... I'm happily married(to a Woman) and have been for almost ten years... We also have two children together(some you butt chugging flamers can't ever do with you ass buddies)
And I guess if a queer can find happiness by some guys hairy ass... then what ever... I really think the most messed up thing is that people who are in that queers can't handle being called one.
xenex23 10 months ago
@xenex23, your comment is filled with disrespect, which I do not tolerate. If you wish to leave further comments on my videos, please feel free to send me a private message explaining how you will treat others with the dignity and respect that you deserve.
SeanChapin1 10 months ago
@xenex23 i can handle it quite well im pretty sure you arent married
lilkush909 10 months ago
@xenex23 please correct me if I'm wrong, but, being raised Christian, I was taught that God accepts everyone.
ChieMiyagawa 10 months ago
@ChieMiyagawa The value of everyones soul is great in the sight of God... But the law of God is and always will be that homosexuality is wrong... Love the sinner not the sin... Granted I also need to learn this... But I never did claim to be perfect
xenex23 10 months ago
@xenex23, if I wanted to be nice to someone, I could come up with many other ways to address them then saying "you queers". Could you explain to me why you chose this specific phrase?
SeanChapin1 10 months ago
Nice.
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alishiasheel 1 year ago
How creative! Thanks for being a voice in the wilderness as it were.
herdfan1990 1 year ago
@MaryWaterton, your comment is ridiculously ignorant (anyone can get AIDS, not just "homosexuals") and infested with hate (round up gay people and send them to Iran because "we have too many, they have none"?), not to mention unnecessary and inappropriate. I welcome open conversations but do not tolerate disgusting ridicule. Your comment has been deleted, and you have been blocked from this channel.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
That was a spectacular video, It made me furious to see them drink out of that. Thank you for framing the situation in this way.
juanmora19910209 1 year ago
Hey Sean, glad you called out the offensive and vulgar responses. As a Christian, I am horrified by the use of the words Hate and Christ in the epithets hurled at you as a slur and in condemnation. This is not what Jesus preached.
I do believe that if we stopped long enough to discern what we are really talking about when we talk about same-sex marriage, we would embrace and support these relationships as witness to the gift and mystery of love, the greatest gift from our Creator. Hang in the
lorikendall999 1 year ago
@MyVaIentine, I welcome open and polite conversations, but I do not tolerate inappropriate and vulgar comments ("So if you don't want me to hate you, just stop being a little f__got and accept Christ Almighty!"). Your comment has been removed, and you have been blocked from my channel.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@anticristero As for me being a "moral coward", hows that possible? The heroic one, the brave one is the one who speaks out against the popular opinion isn't it? It is entirely popular to be gay. EVERY frigging show has to have a gay or two in it. Every school extols the virtues of being gay lol. You have a very distorted view of your own politic here, mate.
"Gay is ok, and gay is the way" is entirely rampant in this day and age. I'm the odd one out; and thus I am anything BUT a moral coward.
matrix13thfloor 1 year ago
@anticristero People should never be given jobs by those who don't want to hire them.
I'm white, and when I go to a Japanese, Thai or Indian restaurant, I want the ENTIRE experience to transport me to the specific country of origin. I don't want some black or white or Mexican guy in the back preparing my Sushi, then handing it to a native or white gay waiter who skips along and flamboyantly asserts his sexual nature as he delivers my food! Please! It doesn't belong. Just grow up.
matrix13thfloor 1 year ago
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Gays have equal rights in america but i think we should start segregating you people, then we can recriminalize sodomy and kick filthy gay-straight alliances out of our schools.
MyVaIentine 1 year ago
@MyVaIentine, do you hate gay people?
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@SeanChapin1 yes, but more importantly i am scared for the children.
MyVaIentine 1 year ago
@MyVaIentine, why do you hate gay people?
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@MyVaIentine if you are scared for the children, you should keep them away from Republicans. Google "armchair subversive" and get back to us.
DenyReality 1 year ago
I personally don't like gays. I just don't sorry
stevepcb 1 year ago
@stevepcb, you're free to have your own beliefs and likes, but that the same time, everyone deserves to be treated with dignity, respect and full equal civil human rights.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
This video has a good message, as do the rest of your videos, ignore the haters and keep up the good work.
Pigeon1994 1 year ago
@Dogsneedpleasuretoo You know this is deeply disturbing, don't you? lol
I swore you were just trying to creep me out here...then I clicked on your name and see it is more than that. (shivers).
You know, the dog is really just wanting to dominate right? Poor confused furballs....um, you included! lol
matrix13thfloor 1 year ago
@Dogsneedpleasuretoo As disgusting as I find your practice, you have proven my point entirely; I guess I owe you a thanks for that.
matrix13thfloor 1 year ago
@matrix13thfloor, if you think this video is over the top, then I dare say your comments are a tad hysterical and catty. Homosexuality is not destroying society, and furthermore, homosexuality has been around for a very long time in virtually every animal species on our planet, serving its purpose in strengthening families by helping raise the young and also probably being nature's check against overpopulation, which I believe helps keep the species and nature itself in balance.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@SeanChapin1 Homosexuality has been most rampant JUST AS kingdoms were falling apart.
And nobody was ever stupid enough to grant them "equal status". Bestiality was also around just as long; so longevity is a very poor argument.
Homosexuality has NEVER existed in the animal kingdom.
Do animals screw anything that moves? Sure, most of which is domination anyway and has nothing to do with sexual preference.
matrix13thfloor 1 year ago
@matrix13thfloor
"Homosexuality has been most rampant JUST AS kingdoms were falling apart."
LOL. No. Just no. Ancient Greece had homosexuality and is known as one of the finest civilizations in history. And there are plenty examples of backwards states who are ran and have been run by heterosexuals so your generalization fails completely anyways.
"Homosexuality has NEVER existed in the animal kingdom"
LOL wrong again. Do you ever actually look at facts when you come up with opinions?
u3q2v 1 year ago
@SeanChapin1 I'm all for gays doing whatever they want to each other; go for it buddy. Just don't broadcast it and shove it down our throats! Nobody NEEDS TO KNOW, hell I don't broadcast my sexual frustrations and fulfillments, preferences & positions and "demand" everyone to take notice and give me some credit for it! LMAO!!!!
matrix13thfloor 1 year ago
@matrix13thfloor, are you here to engage in an open conversation with me, or are you here to incite me with your confrontational, antagonizing and vitriolic tone?
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@SeanChapin1 You are insulted about something because of a little sarcasm? I am being open, I am engaging in conversation; but I am Irish...so the sarcasm is NATURAL...are you racist?
I only ask this because of your accusatory, judgmental response to me. Maybe you don't like us sarcastic Irish...but it is how God made us, after all.
matrix13thfloor 1 year ago
@matrix13thfloor, a year ago, when a constituent asked Barney Frank "Why are you supporting this Nazi (health care) policy?" Frank responded by saying, "On what planet do you spend most of your time?", called her approach "vile, contemptible nonsense," and closed by saying "Trying to have a conversation with you would be like arguing with a dining room table." I sincerely feel similarly with you. FYI, I ensure that the comments to my videos maintain a level of dignity and respect.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@matrix13thfloor
LOL at gays shoving things down your throat when it's the heterosexuals who've been in complete control of the politics, legal system, and cultural norms here in America and imposing their will on homosexuals whether they liked it or not. If you call 2 guys kissing in public as "broadcasting" their sexuality, then I can easily say that every heterosexual romantic comedy is part of a heterosexual agenda and a political statement making gays feel abnormal and like outcasts.
u3q2v 1 year ago
When you ask for equality just remember, when you want some big strong guy to grab your hand as you are falling to your death, when he says "no, let that scrawny girl do it instead....all things being equal", it was your choice!
There IS NO equality and nor should there be. People can CHOOSE to treat others equally (Christian teaching; but it too has limits) but that is their CHOICE, it cannot be IMPOSED upon them.
There IS a difference and it is RIGHT to differentiate.
matrix13thfloor 1 year ago
@matrix13thfloor, to be clear, I think I speak for many gay people when I say that we don't ask for equality, we are entitled to and demand equality, specifically the fundamental right of equal protection under the law per the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution that is the supreme law of our country. People that do not choose to treat others equally accordingly violate this law.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@SeanChapin1 No way Jose! You don't grasp it do you? Yes everyone deserves equal PROTECTION, but that does NOT mean blanket equality!
Will you hire a scrawny girl to lift heavy stuff? Will you hire a invalid to run errands across town? Will you give a job to a man with a lower IQ when you'd PREFER the higher IQ? WAY too many examples to provide. The answer is no. Hell, do the Chinese hire Whites or blacks for Chinese restaurants? NO! And I don't want them to either btw (ruins the atmosphere).
matrix13thfloor 1 year ago
@SeanChapin1 PROTECTION, not some puffy, emotional "equality" bullshit, there is no such thing in reality. Get off your BraveNewWorld mindset and back down to earth buddy.
matrix13thfloor 1 year ago
@matrix13thfloor, I think there should be equality. No matter who we are, we are fundamentally all the same with the equal ability to live our lives with love and/or hate, and we all have our own unique gifts and talents to share in this world. Our country has prospered as it has steered toward true equality over the decades, evolving with achieved strength from diversity and our differences and capitalizing on everyone's gifts to make us all better.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@SeanChapin1 Dude, I honestly care not one mote if you want to be gay. None. I DO care about the BS Gay propaganda that gays INSIST must be in the schools, I do care that they think they can push Ministers to marry them AGAINST their beliefs. I do care that they think they can FORCE the VAST majority of citizens to accept their deviant behavior as an EQUAL STATUS.
Our country hasn't been PROSPERING over the past 30 years (longer even), its been GOING DOWN THE TOILET. Are you joking?
matrix13thfloor 1 year ago
@SeanChapin1 Fluffy equality and real equality are two entirely different things pal. There is NO REAL EQUALITY; NONE; it doesn't exist and cannot exist. Go seek your beautiful utopia in Bolshevik Russia, k?
matrix13thfloor 1 year ago
@matrix13thfloor
So you've basically just admitted that you don't even care to strive towards relative equality because absolute equality is unachievable. That you're alright with bigotry, marginalized groups of individuals, and could give 2 shits about your fellow man that you don't relate with. So my question is do you think Sean is really going to care about the opinion of somebody who's so unabashedly selfish, hateful, and unsympathetic?
u3q2v 1 year ago
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gramosjr7 1 year ago
race is not a choice perversion is
MrCounterter788 1 year ago
@MrCounterter788, can you prove to me that being gay is a choice as opposed to a discovery?
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@SeanChapin1 Homosexuality is a choice. You NEVER need to act upon it. Pedophilia is also a choice. As is Bestiality as is masturbation as is electing to drink coke instead of pepsi. You have a PREDISPOSITION to those desires, but that doesn't mean you SHOULD act upon them nor that others should have to ACCEPT your "choice"/feeling/desire/discovery.
I'm not equating gay with pedophilia, other than both are sexually deviant & both parties honestly FEEL this is they way they are.
matrix13thfloor 1 year ago
@matrix13thfloor Even if sexual orientation is a choice, you still haven't defined why two adult citizens in a free country, which has freedom of religion and individual liberty as its foundational promises, shouldn't be able to choose who they love.
You also haven't provided a shred of evidence to show that sexual orientation is chosen.
And god is imaginary btw.
TheLightAndTheWay 1 year ago
@TheLightAndTheWay You never listened; I don't care at all about your sex-preferences. And I don't want you to care about MINE EITHER! Stop spamming the world with your perversities; thats all.
matrix13thfloor 1 year ago
@matrix13thfloor "I don't care at all about your sex-preferences."
Which explains why you're on the internet obsessively posting lengthy arguments about sexual preference on an epicly gay video.
Oooooooooookay!
TheLightAndTheWay 1 year ago
@TheLightAndTheWay "And god is imaginary btw."
Ya? Prove it.
matrix13thfloor 1 year ago
@matrix13thfloor
Zzzzzzzzzz.
I don't have to prove that Santa Claus, Zeus, God, Ra, Thor, unicorns, or the Easter Bunny AREN'T real. It is up to any nutcase who insists that they ARE real to offer some proof... which you can't.... because they're all imaginary.
TheLightAndTheWay 1 year ago
@matrix13thfloor, homosexuality is an immutable trait deeply rooted in biology, and the choice for gay people is to live honestly (as gay) or live falsely (as straight). I choose to live honestly because I believe that those who are closest to me deserve this honestly. If I lived as straight, it wouldn't be fair to my spouse who deserves my true love, and it wouldn't be fair to my children who deserve parents who truly love each other.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@SeanChapin1 If I like tigers...really really like tigers; actually prefer them over women...do I act "honestly" towards my fellows and bring all this out in the open, parade myself and my tigress down the streets and demand rights? You have a foolhardy position and defending it is trite, pitiful and pathetic.
There is no need to "live a lie" as a strait, just be celibate! Or if you cannot gain victory over your weakness, then do it but don't involve everyone else in your failure!
matrix13thfloor 1 year ago
@matrix13thfloor, invoking pedophilia, bestiality, masturbation, incest and polygamy is furthering a slippery slope that is driven by fear mongering. What makes pedophilia and bestiality different from homosexuality is consent. Regarding polygamy and incest, though I don't personally believe in it, I am unsure of any reason why they should be denied equal protection of the laws. However, that is a different subject matter.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@SeanChapin1 Bullshit! There are animals that more than consent! I remember this one dog, anytime someone bent over it would jump right up and start giving it to them. The frigging thing was more than willing, it was initiating. So if that person wanted to haul off their pants and let the dog have it...? Consent? Very bad argument.
matrix13thfloor 1 year ago
@matrix13thfloor
That's true that if you're gay that you don't have to act on your natural attraction. I certainly haven't. I've never kissed, had sex, or had a relationship with a man. I've resisted any homosexual feelings/acts that I had and tried to have heterosexual feelings (which was FAIL). But that was always my personal choice.
You said: "that doesn't mean you SHOULD act upon them".
Maybe. But there isn't any compelling reason NOT to act upon them either.
u3q2v 1 year ago
@SeanChapin1 NOBODY can blame you for having these "weaknesses" we all have weaknesses of one sort or another (drunkenness, drugs, computer addiction, ass-kissing(non-sexual btw), violent tendencies, overeating, laziness, deception etc. Does that mean everyone should ACCEPT those weaknesses and EMBRACE them? Does that mean we should GIVE IN to them? NO!
Nobody can blame you for having gay tendencies; but it is YOUR STRUGGLE, not something to give in to, something to gain victory OVER!
matrix13thfloor 1 year ago
@matrix13thfloor, homosexuality is not a weakness, and on a side note, I don't understand the need to put quotes around the word weakness. As I said earlier, homosexuality benefits society by (1) reproducing via artificial insemination, (2) raising children in loving, nurturing homes, (3) strengthening existing families as uncles/aunts and (4) serving as nature's check against overpopulation.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@matrix13thfloor, it is your choice to not accept or embrace homosexuality, but to me, there is no rational reason to consider homosexuality as less than heterosexuality, and such consideration suggests prejudice, ignorance, fear and possibly hatred. I am not sure who you are, but I understand that many vitriolically anti-gay people are gay themselves and possibly hate themselves for it. If that might be the case with you, then I hope that one day you find your peace in this world.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@SeanChapin1 LoL, I always find this sort of accusation so hilarious, were it not so sad. You want me to consider the "gay way"...because after all, maybe im "insecure in my sexuality" or whatever huh? lol
Honestly, i've had friends that are/were gay (yes some stopped) and I have 0 reason to consider such attempts at conversion.
I'm not a homosexual, and if It was one of my weaknesses, i'd ignore it the best I could & move along in life.
matrix13thfloor 1 year ago
@matrix13thfloor You know people who "stopped" being gay? Are those the guys you met at your las Exodus meeting? Just keep telling yourself that you're 100% heterosexual and definitely not gay at all. I'm sure that'll work swimmingly.
incredulosity 1 year ago
@incredulosity Just as an FYI for *everyone* who might stumble into this video, the 2 original co-founders of EXODUS INTERNATIONAL were 2 men who were initially committed to the underlying concept/philosophy of that ministry. Why, they even "matriculated" from the program and, as expected, got married...to EACH OTHER, in a ceremony conducted by the Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches. I am NOT making this up! Please see other U Tubers where Michael Bussee discusses that.
bimboblacky 1 year ago
@MrCounterter788
So is stupidity. Please stop being a blight on humanity and educate yourself so you can be a meaningful member of society kthx.
u3q2v 1 year ago
What about someone who's bisexual? Would that person have the right to both types of marriage, traditional and gay-marriage? That wouldn't be polygamy, as neither spouse would be of the same sex. See, when you allow special rules for one 'kind' of marriage equality alongside traditional marriage, then the arguments used to support gay-marriage will be used for anything. Thus it allows a slippery slope to become the logic behind the law and so will the law become perverted. People > Law.
DOHC2L 1 year ago
@DOHC2L First, SOME churches already DO perform same-sex marriages. And no one is saying this must be performed in a church. Civil marriage ceremonies are as legal under law as religious marriages. It's the LEGAL license that is of import...the EQUALITY. Second, Yes, of course, that would be polygamy. Plurality of marriage mates is illegal. Period. So, let's not start hypothesizing pure fiction.
TheSchmuckLook 1 year ago
@TheSchmuckLook So to the bisexual, you would have him discriminate in order to choose who to marry? That person must choose one mate to marry, for whom do they choose? See now my point about some types of discrimination necessarily being a choice of morality?
DOHC2L 1 year ago
@DOHC2L Life is like that...when coming to a T intersection, one MUST chose right or left, so, yes, a CHOICE is necessary. Choose which way to go. Going one way or another is not morality..it's to not impede further traffic on the same street. Or do YOU not see the analogy?
TheSchmuckLook 1 year ago
If gay-marriage were moral churches would perform gay marriage. Yet, gay-marriage supporters preach that it is immoral to deny gay people from marriage. Government and law is not the moral authority, never can it be. The law cannot change people's moral views. People who say the law must be changed don't respect the will of the majority of people who morally oppose homosexuality. Thus the gay-marriage advocates call people opposed to gay marriage immoral because of their moral beliefs.
DOHC2L 1 year ago
@DOHC2L, the United States of America is a constitutional republic, and our federal and state constitutions are the supreme law of the land. No citizen can be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law or denied the equal protection of the laws, as stated in the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, and the will of the people can not enact laws (such as banning same-sex marriage) that violate this amendment short of amending the Federal Constitution itself.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@DOHC2L "If gay-marriage were moral churches would perform gay marriage."
Many churches DO perform same sex marriages. Case closed.
TheLightAndTheWay 1 year ago
This video is insulting to black people. You equate racial discrimination with the opposition to gay marriage. Thousands of years before it was a political institution, marriage was a religious institution. Now homosexuals seek confirmation from the political because they can't obtain it from the religious. They water down the institution of marriage from a water-downed version of marriage: political rather than the religious. They demand the political be the authority so as to leverage it.
DOHC2L 1 year ago 2
@DOHC2L Discrimination is discrimination, regardless of who or whom it's perpetrated against. For thousands of years it was legal for a man to have multiple wives, as it is today in some countries. But, in those countries women HAVE to wear burkhas or worse and have very few rights. Are you proposing this?
TheSchmuckLook 1 year ago
@TheSchmuckLook Not all discrimination is improper as you imply it is. There is content-of-character. Haven't you ever met a person, and based on their personality you didn't like them. Maybe it's just that they're a loud-mouth and likes things you don't. Well, you discriminate against them based on those reasons. What you imply is that to oppose gay marriage is blind discrimination, rather its not, its just that we see it as immoral. To discriminate on moral reasons is not ignorance.
DOHC2L 1 year ago
@DOHC2L Yes ALL discrimination based on race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, any basic group of non-harmful people because the group of majority doesn't like them is improper. Non-harmful is the key phrase. No blood sacrifices for 'religion' no hating like the KKK, that sort of harmful. Yes, we discriminate rightfully, against poison. Whether it's body poison or mind poison. Your type of discrimination is only disguised as morality; it is really fear.
TheSchmuckLook 1 year ago
@TheSchmuckLook You discriminate in every choice you make, not just people you associate with. If you go to restaurant and order from the menu, what you do not order from the menu you've discriminated against. Hence the old phrase, "discriminating tastes." There is a stale architecture of thought in sociology known as 'conflict theory' which teaches a basis of discrimination, regardless of the condition. You're ideology is based in that school of thought. But it's a heartless wrongness.
DOHC2L 1 year ago
@DOHC2LWell, of course, we 'discriminate' in everything we do. It's called making choices. I choose to believe and practice we are ALL created equal and have the same rights and obligations under the law and that the law MUST treat us all as equals or we can no longer be called free. Sorry about your choice, but it IS the one to go down in flames throughout history. But bias and prejudice will always lose to common, good sense.
TheSchmuckLook 1 year ago
@TheSchmuckLook What you call common sense I see as bias. What I call common sense you see as prejudice. So we're stuck having to argue it out. But you'd have the government legislate so your beliefs can win out. That is not democratic, that is not democracy. Gay rights are not civil rights, they're not human rights, they're not inalienable rights, they're only claimed as rights so long as you perceive opposition to that lifestyle to be the popular will of the people as it is today.
DOHC2L 1 year ago
@DOHC2L
Yeah it's not democratic. It's constitutional. Newsflash our country is not a direct democracy. It's a Constitutional Republic. Our government has democratic elements of course but thank goodness our forefathers didn't decide to base our entire political system on the often uneducated masses.
Democracy is a nice fluffy buzzword that has a lot of positive connotations about it, but the fact is, like anything, democracy is not always best in every and all instances.
u3q2v 1 year ago
@DOHC2L
I actually agree with you that not all discrimination is improper. But certainly in the case of gay marriage, the anti-equality position is improper discrimination. There is no good reason for not allowing gay marriage.
A group of people seeing it as immoral without an actual secular foundation is not justifiable. In the meantime opponents of gay marriage themselves are the ones being unethical and inflicting pain on others who aren't even doing anything to them
u3q2v 1 year ago
@TheSchmuckLook I said no such thing. It's just that the 'gay movement' seems to embrace a lot of shocking beliefs. How it's not the gay movement, rather its the LGBT rights issue as your side frames the debate... that's just more shocking to conventional thinking average Americans. The whole trans-gender issue will end up deflating your core ideals as its a slippery slope you advocate. I say your argument invites the polygamist argument. Would you discriminate against them? Or tolerate?
DOHC2L 1 year ago
@TheSchmuckLook For thousands of years it was NOT legal for a man to have multiple wives... it was SOCIALLY acceptable, but the law didn't say one way or the other. It was a matter of tradition. Eventually that tradition faded from the mainstream. It is the moral equivalent for gay-marriage advocates to insist on a binding legalism to define marriage as it would be for polygamists. The law shouldn't be crafted to define tradition as you would have it.
DOHC2L 1 year ago
@DOHC2L, marriage is a fundamental civil right, and laws that deny the right of marriage to same-sex couples do nothing more than enshrine the notion that opposite-sex couples are superior to same-sex couples; because these laws disadvantage gays and lesbians without any rational justification, such laws violate the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@DOHC2L, This video compares the segregation between marriage and other recognized forms of relationships (domestic partnerships, civil unions, etc.) to the segregation of Jim Crow water fountains between white and colored people. I produced this video to honor the African-American civil rights movement as well as to illustrate the similarities between the African-American civil rights movement and LGBT civil rights movement. I do not understand how this video insults black people.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
Equal either means equal or it doesn't. If you allow the government to say any 'group' is not equal, you de facto allow the government to say YOU are not equal. I testified at the Vermont State Senate Judiciary Committee Public Hearing in favor of equal marriage rights. The bill passed. I'm hetero. And I'm not scared.
TheSchmuckLook 1 year ago
@TheSchmuckLook That's a fascinating view, but its not the government to say who is equal and who is not. That view, that the government has to make people equal, robs individuals choice over that struggle. Then it fails to be moral decision, and when morality is legislated and not an individual choice it robs people of spirit.
DOHC2L 1 year ago
@DOHC2LNo, only YOU can say, do, think what is moral...being equal does not force you to be immoral. Only equal under the law. Dumbness, on the other hand, forces you to be scared.
TheSchmuckLook 1 year ago
@DOHC2L
I'm sorry but the government legislates over moral decisions all the time and I doubt you've been up in arms about every single court decision, every element of public policy that affects local individuals or international ones, etc. And yeah, when morality was legislated against gays, many homosexuals were robbed of their spirit as you'd say. But did you care then? No, you are only bothered when it's an issue you have a bias for.
u3q2v 1 year ago
@MaryWaterton, there are different kinds of oppression than that of the physical sense. I don't know who you are, or where you're from, but I've been to the deep south, I've re-traced the civil rights movement, met a lot of key people who were deeply involved in the movement, and they'll tell you, it wasn't just the physical oppression they were trying to end but the non-physical ones as well. They were unable to marry mixed-color, unable to vote, had no rights, & that's where this rings true.
MLTaylor650 1 year ago
@MaryWaterton, the point that you said, where "gay people are forcing their views on the rest of America" it's more the other way around. What people believe in, or what they do in their own homes has no impact on you, and therefore, you shouldn't worry yourself over it. Nobody asked you to watch this video and make rude and profane comments. If you don't like it, don't watch it, and don't get involved. I believe everybody should have the same rights, regardless if they are straight or gay.
MLTaylor650 1 year ago
@666WarriorKnight, your comment was not just extremely hateful and vitriolic, it was profane and went way past the line of respect. Your comment has been deleted, and you have been blocked from this channel.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
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firesnake2007 1 year ago
This is an amazingly powerful statement.
Wow......just wow.
:-)
romaczech75 1 year ago
@brianh406
YHVH laws are still in effect today
No shaving ( the sides of your head bald like a eagle) example:military haircut and no, goatee style beard
Dietary laws {no pork or shell fish}
Keeping the sabbath(not Sun-day) Holy
Repent Gays
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.
derekdb2 1 year ago
@derekdb2
Are you a critical thinker? Do you question the information that you hear and learn? Or are you an unquestioning sheep who follows orders given to him even if they're unethical and inhumane?
I think there are definitely religious individuals who are critical and independent thinkers and believe what they do for good, solid reasons. But there are also sheep.
If you're wrong about your religion, then you're committing unethical acts. I hope your belief comes from a sound place
u3q2v 1 year ago
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Homosexuals have never been forced to drink from separate water fountains. Homosexuals are not the "new blacks". Frauds!
* Were homosexuals ever captured & shipped to another continent with a 50% chance of survival?
* Were homosexuals ever paraded in chains on an auction block to be sold to the highest bidder?
* Were homosexuals ever violently placed in forced labor for generations?
* Were homosexuals ever systematically lynched?
* Were homosexuals ever called 3/5 of a man in the Constitution?
MaryWaterton 1 year ago
@MaryWaterton, the video is an analogy of the Jim Crow laws and paints the similarities of the separate but equal circumstances between straight marriage/gay civil unions and whites/colored drinking fountains. Both the African-American and LGBT civil rights movements come from harsh severity that are similar and/or dissimilar to each other depending on how you look at them, and to make the connections among the similarities doesn't mean to automatically denigrate one movement beneath the other.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@MaryWaterton, to answer your questions, I am not aware of anyone who was captured & shipped to another continent with a 50% chance of survival, paraded in chains on an auction block to be sold to the highest bidder, violently placed in forced labor for generations, systematically lynched or called 3/5 of a man in the Constitution strictly for being gay. I am pretty sure that there are African Americans who have who are also gay, but I am not sure how relevant that might be to you.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@MaryWaterton, I could also ask a few questions in return, as there are hardships that gays have faced that are unique to them (such as gay youth being isolated and rejected by their families for being gay, leading to depression, disruptive behavior and higher suicide rates), but I think that that would be an antagonistic effort that would further a divide rather than help bridge the two movements together in unity regardless of our similarities and differences in unity.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@MaryWaterton, at the same time, Brian McNaught says that "every minority group in world history, including African Americans, has referenced the struggles of other minority groups in articulating their feelings of oppression. The songs of solidarity sung by slaves in cotton fields referenced the flight of the Jews from Pharaoh’s Egypt." Are there hardships that Jewish people have faced that are worse than African-Americans? One could argue the Holocaust, which was utterly abominable.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@MaryWaterton, it is true that slavery happened before the Holocaust, but my belief is that had the Holocaust happened before slavery, I would strongly believe that African-Americans would mean no insult to Jewish people with the songs sung in the cotton fields, and I am sure that LGBT Americans would mean no insult to African-Americans with any connections between the two movements (and with this video, I mean to honor the African-American civil rights movement).
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@MaryWaterton, lastly, you may want to watch another video that I've done earlier this year in celebration of Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday and holiday (look it up on my channel - "Martin Luther King Jr. Tribute"). I made this video to honor him, the African-American civil rights movement and his vision of equality and peace from the perspective of an LGBT citizen. At the end, I included a quote that I think says it all, "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@MaryWaterton, what troubles me from your post is that you seem to come from a place of ignorance, fear or hatred towards gay people (or you might possibly think twice before coming across with an inciting tone and calling gay people "frauds"). If I upset you in any way with this video, know that I deeply respect the severity of oppression of African-Americans and their movement towards civil rights, and I hope that one day we can all be equal and free no matter who we are.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@SeanChapin1 ... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyone that takes a stand against your fraudulent arguments is laden with ignorance, fear, and hatred ... according to YOU. Fact is, you homosexuals are not an oppressed minority. You are not a newly discovered race or sex worthy of civil rights protection. What you are is a bunch of militant sodomites intent upon forcing your views on the rest of America.
MaryWaterton 1 year ago
@MaryWaterton, if you are here to engage in an open conversation, can I ask you the following:
(1) how gay people are not an oppressed minority,
(2) how gay people are forcing their views on the rest of America
(3) why gay people are not worth of civil rights protection
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@MaryWaterton umm, there is so much irony in your comment, they are not the one forcing their ways on ppl, it's christians.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
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MLTaylor650 1 year ago
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MLTaylor650 1 year ago
@MaryWaterton you say that homosexuals are not an oppressed minority while in many countries people are tortured & put to death because they are gay. Gay kids are bullied and beaten in schools.Many who come out to their parents are disowned and kicked out of the house. In some states employers are allowed to discriminate against homosexuals as are those offering housing. In many states gays are not allowed to adopt or become teachers. Not allowed in the military or marry the one they love.
rbjnla 1 year ago
@MaryWaterton
So it's only okay when your social group is the one forcing your views on the rest of America? Um k.
But of course it's such a crime that the gays dare stand up for themselves and demand certain equal rights with their heterosexual counterparts, because in MaryWaterton's caste system homosexuals should just know their role and give up their own desires so as not to cause discomfort to her highness! Please go ahead and step on our backs so as not to dirty your feet!
u3q2v 1 year ago
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MLTaylor650 1 year ago
@MaryWaterton
Is the homosexual civil movement exactly the same as the African-American one? No. And neither are the same as the female one. Or any other one. But are their similarities, overlaps, and continuities between all of them? Absolutely.
The separate water fountains are similar to the separate institution of marriage (in this case heterosexual marriage and homosexual civil union). Different treatment of social groups creates an unnecessary social stratification of society.
u3q2v 1 year ago
Sean I am so happy to call you a good friend people like you are making change beyond your understanding. I know some day when we are all equale you will have had a big part in that.
depfox 1 year ago
@depfox, Thanks Jay, and back at you and the Leffews- I wouldn't be surprised to see your family will be a household name by the time everything is said and done. Still working hard at an idea for a gay adoption video!
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@SeanChapin1
Widely recognized or not, both of you brave groups are influencing history for the better <3.
u3q2v 1 year ago
Repent Gays
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.
Romans 1: 26 For this cause YHVH gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
derekdb2 1 year ago
@derekdb2, what if people believe in a different religion? What if people believe that God loves and accepts everyone gay and straight?
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
interesting twist
Eltoca21 1 year ago
Love. This. Thank you, Sean. Thank you.
lavenderliberal 1 year ago
I don't see why this is such a big issue. Around 4% of the US is Gay. And more than 50% of all marriages end in divorce. If the same occurs for gay marriages, than all this fuss is to make 2% of this country happy. When did such a minority spur such an overblown issue?
I have yet to see a tangible benefit from marriage other than tax relief. I could understand the angle of trying to end "injustice" but this is just a waste of time.
viralarchitect 1 year ago
@viralarchitect, regardless of happiness and how many people are gay, the issue is about constitutional equality towards all identifiable and suspect minority classes with respect to the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment. Frankly, I don't see why it is such a big issue to deny the civil right of marriage to gay people, and I also don't understand the need to quote the word "injustice" in your comment. Do you have a problem with gay people getting legally civilly married?
SeanChapin1 1 year ago 2
@SeanChapin1 The right to marry has not been taken away from anyone. Everyone has the right to marry a member of the opposite sex. Part of 4% of this country wants to marry members of the same sex. I'm willing to bet that a similar statistic would turn up people who want all kinds of things legalized that the majority of people don't.
Again, you can still be a couple and do everything a straight couple would do, just not get tax relief.
viralarchitect 1 year ago
@viralarchitect "You can still do everything a straight couple would do, just not get a tax relief." That's not equal! Calling it a civil union is not equal! This is about equality. Everyone has a right to marry someone of the opposite sex, yes. But gay people are attracted to the same sex. Why would we want to marry someone of the opposite sex? What if the situation was flipped and one could only marry someone of the same sex? Would you marry someone of the same sex?
chickenbuttguesswhat 1 year ago
@viralarchitect Yeah exactly the same way Jews shouldn't have synagogues since they can enjoy their Religious Freedom in a church! Try not to think, I can tell that it is hard for you.
TMBrd89 1 year ago
Great actors lol
evanbuck101 1 year ago
NICE!
I was surprised when the other fountain poured onto the ground. Subtle but super smart!
ExplorationB 1 year ago
@ExplorationB, we were surprised too when we arrived and found out about the middle fountain ourselves...we high-fived after making this discovery :).
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@SeanChapin1 HA! Totally deserves a high five. Meant to be!
ExplorationB 1 year ago 5
@ExplorationB Indeed!
jimbobubbadj 1 year ago
Great video!! Thanks for sharing!
filmstocker 1 year ago
Someone finally hit the nail of the head :D
ronoc9 1 year ago
@anticristero, I think I agree with you that the strongest way to make someone think about this subject is to tell stories of discrimination caused by the differences of recognized relationships (Harold and Clay from Sonoma County is a great example, as well as Kristin and Teresa's story of their hospital experience in Fresno). This video was meant to illustrate gay marriage from another more lighthearted perspective.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@newyorkequality - news flash: gay people have civil rights too, and we're going to fight for them. I hardly call that 'hijacking.'
lemonstreet 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Trying to hijack the civil right movement once again.
You cant find such a fountain so you are creating one in the same way you are creating special rights.
You should start by understanding the real value of the other sex and stop discriminating yourself
newyorkequality 1 year ago
@newyorkequality
it is a civil rights issue. there are 1400 rights accorded to heterosexuals thru marriage that are denied to glbt partners. that, my friend, is unequal, and discrimination.
mrsbrown333 1 year ago
@newyorkequality, I believe that there are many parallels between both civil rights movement, and this video honors the African-American civil rights movement by using the fountain in a symbolic manner. Also, as Julian Bond (NAACP Chairman) has said before, "gay rights aren't special rights in any way. It isn't special to be free from discrimination - that is an ordinary, universal entitlement of citizenship". And there is value in both hetero and homosexuality besides natural procreation.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago 2
@newyorkequality Saying gays are hijacking the civil rights movement is like saying feminists are hijacking it too.
ronoc9 1 year ago
@newyorkequality, put another way, homosexuality benefits society in a number of ways, including procreation through artificial insemination, adoption of children into the loving, nurturing homes of same-gender parents, gay uncles/aunts helping raise their nephews/nieces, and homosexuality probably being nature's check against overpopulation. Honestly, there isn't a reason to disapprove of homosexuality, which renders those who do as fearful, ignorant, bigoted, prejudiced and possibly hateful.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago 3
@newyorkequality contemporary opposite sex marriage is itself a "special right". The idea of "traditional" marriage is actually quite new. Prior to 300 years ago, no one except for the very wealthy ever got married, and even those marriages were arranged by the parents of the betrothed. Marriage was nothing more than a business proposition, it had nothing to do with preserving society. But if you want to go even further back all the way to biblical tradition (continued)
DeimosSaturn 1 year ago 3
@DeimosSaturn which is essentially what EVERY SINGLE ANTI GAY MARRIAGE political advocacy group bases their argument of what a "traditional family" means, the bible actually states that marriage is NOT between 1 man and 1 woman, instead, it states that marriage is between 1 man and 1 OR MORE women. And yet that's illegal. You know what other biblical traditions are illegal? (continued)
DeimosSaturn 1 year ago 2
Slavery! Yes, that's right, even Jesus himself said that slaves should obey their masters. He was even considerate enough to provide specific instructions on how one should beat their slaves. Not too harsh but not too soft! Hooray for tradition!
Another biblical tradition that isn't recognized by law: Capital punishment for working on the Sabbath. herp derp derp!
DeimosSaturn 1 year ago 4
One more thing, there is no law in the US that says divorce, fornication, and adultery are illegal between two consenting adults. Guess what else! In most of the 50 states, sodomy (that's any sexual act not intended for procreation including intercourse when the woman isn't ovulating) is PERFECTLY LEGAL! So really, if you think about it, it's straight marriage that is the "special right". HURR DURR!!!
DeimosSaturn 1 year ago
@DeimosSaturn, as an FYI, the US Supreme Court overturned every sodomy law across the country in the case of Lawrence v. Texas in 2003.
SeanChapin1 1 year ago
@SeanChapin1 terrific
DeimosSaturn 1 year ago
@newyorkequality "Hijacking"? Sweetie, gay rights have been a civil rights battle since Stonewall, if not long before that.
HenhousetheRed 1 year ago
@newyorkequality I suggest that unless your rights are being denied you just shut up. Unless you are gay you have no idea of the bigotry and discrimination we face. There are no special rights except for the special rights you are holding for yourself. Rights are for all citizens not just certain people. This country needs to honor equal rights for all. Not special rights for bigots like newyorkinequality.
MoovieStarz 1 year ago
The depressing part is that this had to be made. The parallels are so obvious that I'm left wondering if history classes still cover the civil rights movement.
odwin8 1 year ago
WOW this deos really illustrate the choices that everyone has to make and it fricken sucks! It is segregation!
COOLIKEDATAZIAN 1 year ago
Civil unions for same sex and marriage for opposite sex = Jim Crow laws in the 21st century. Let's not reinstate Jim Crow and laws like it!
spartacandream 1 year ago