Bloomberg's summation of the voting behavior of Americans is exactly what I surmised long ago. There is a 10-15% fringe on either end of the political spectrum that votes party every time. The remaining 70-80 % of voters are the ones that count. There are all kinds of other goofy groups within that percentage who choose candidates for the most ridiculous, anti-intellectual reasons, and the winner is invariably who the media chooses.
The Bailout is taxation without representation or consultation!
> Democrat/Clinton deregulated and caused this mess.
> Republican/Bu$h blank check bails the crooks out.
They should aid and prevent homeowner foreclosure and default! Millions of Americans have no health care but, RepubliCrat partY throw money away into the Wall Street speculator gambler void!
Ralph Nader: Excellent Candidate for United States President - High Intelligence, an Excellent Record, Great Knowledge of Washington DC and Government and Bureaucracy and History. Ralph is the only candidate who has successfully taken on Corporations, which in my view are the bane of our modern republican democracy Nation State: America. Corporations are the shields or fortresses behind which our Richie Rich American nincompoops hide, and plot against the interests of the American Middle Class.
Hm... all these good things and can't get elected. And it's nothing against Ralph, but that's just how democracy works. Sure voters may not be informed, sure they not care enough, sure sometimes they make illogical choices (like poor wal-mart shoppers voting for Republicans), sure sometimes voters vote on "moral issues" that they really should have nothing to say about. But that's just it - voters are strange. Being too progressive or too conservative ain't gonna cut it, and neither will Ralph.
No, I will not agree that "that's just how democracy works" insofar as the two major political parties are concerned, here in our ruined America. Both Parties, Republican and Democrat, are full of incompetence and ideologically driven power mongering group think. I happen to be a "poor Walmart shopper" in that I work at Walmart. You sound a bit too self satisfied, yourself, to be calling how I might vote. I am a "moral issues" voter, in that I am Catholic. I might well vote for Ralph Nader.
Well, don't get me wrong, Nader is a great candidate & he did more for the average person/consumer than any other politicians. However, I just get a bit tired of hearing aimless lamentations about our inability to get a viable 3rd party candidate. If citizens are voting for "ideologically" driven politicians, it implies to me that they value ideologies & so democracy's design brings that into play. I'm glad you've vote for Nader, but "average" Wal-Mart shopper votes for Reps, statistically.
it's clear that being a legit 3rd party candidate is difficult, but even if it was easy, why would it make sense in our type political system. Multiple parties work for parliamentary systems. It wouldn't work as well in our electoral system for electing Presidents.
Ralph Nader, let's go to a far away land and you can be president! Everyone will have health insurance, markets will be regulated, and the rich will not get away with murder. Wait, isn't that place called Europe (at least the first two points, non??)?
I wish. Well they are "regulated" in the normal sense but the authority has been sort of looking the other way in order to make the european markets competitive...
"When will a 3 party come""
You already have several. Libertarians. You know, ones more right winged then republicans.
And you have several more on the left. Its just up to the people to get people to vote for them.
gulbirk 5 months ago
Bloomberg's summation of the voting behavior of Americans is exactly what I surmised long ago. There is a 10-15% fringe on either end of the political spectrum that votes party every time. The remaining 70-80 % of voters are the ones that count. There are all kinds of other goofy groups within that percentage who choose candidates for the most ridiculous, anti-intellectual reasons, and the winner is invariably who the media chooses.
pretorious700 1 year ago
I think grass roots could do it. Using the internet to raise money.
mizzoulibertarian 2 years ago
Yes, Mr, Nader! You speak really good! Every human is an individual person and knows, what do! Without Doing-list!! .-)
13desdemona 2 years ago
hey !!! hey is that you ?
the girl on the video..I know her
I bumped her on @ DateHerSafe * com/profile?=4053
Dias6158 2 years ago
America a democracy? its a plutocracy
sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf 2 years ago
The Writing Is On The WALL $treet bailOUT!
The Bailout is taxation without representation or consultation!
> Democrat/Clinton deregulated and caused this mess.
> Republican/Bu$h blank check bails the crooks out.
They should aid and prevent homeowner foreclosure and default! Millions of Americans have no health care but, RepubliCrat partY throw money away into the Wall Street speculator gambler void!
travelfar22 3 years ago
I usually don't like Nader very much, but that was funny.
ElGeneral09 3 years ago
Everyone please subscribe to the official Ralph Nader YouTube Channel. Thank you for posting this 5 star video.
votenader08 3 years ago
Ralph Nader: Excellent Candidate for United States President - High Intelligence, an Excellent Record, Great Knowledge of Washington DC and Government and Bureaucracy and History. Ralph is the only candidate who has successfully taken on Corporations, which in my view are the bane of our modern republican democracy Nation State: America. Corporations are the shields or fortresses behind which our Richie Rich American nincompoops hide, and plot against the interests of the American Middle Class.
mdelcamp1 3 years ago 2
Hm... all these good things and can't get elected. And it's nothing against Ralph, but that's just how democracy works. Sure voters may not be informed, sure they not care enough, sure sometimes they make illogical choices (like poor wal-mart shoppers voting for Republicans), sure sometimes voters vote on "moral issues" that they really should have nothing to say about. But that's just it - voters are strange. Being too progressive or too conservative ain't gonna cut it, and neither will Ralph.
dollaresque 3 years ago
No, I will not agree that "that's just how democracy works" insofar as the two major political parties are concerned, here in our ruined America. Both Parties, Republican and Democrat, are full of incompetence and ideologically driven power mongering group think. I happen to be a "poor Walmart shopper" in that I work at Walmart. You sound a bit too self satisfied, yourself, to be calling how I might vote. I am a "moral issues" voter, in that I am Catholic. I might well vote for Ralph Nader.
mdelcamp1 3 years ago
Well, don't get me wrong, Nader is a great candidate & he did more for the average person/consumer than any other politicians. However, I just get a bit tired of hearing aimless lamentations about our inability to get a viable 3rd party candidate. If citizens are voting for "ideologically" driven politicians, it implies to me that they value ideologies & so democracy's design brings that into play. I'm glad you've vote for Nader, but "average" Wal-Mart shopper votes for Reps, statistically.
dollaresque 3 years ago
Nader is a joke and partly responsible for Bush winning in 2000.
Plus, he has NO CHANCE OF WINNING. Get real...
paulpembroke 3 years ago
If we had an IRV Ballot, 3rd parties would have a chance.
cobwebhead 3 years ago 2
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9130mosin 3 years ago
it's clear that being a legit 3rd party candidate is difficult, but even if it was easy, why would it make sense in our type political system. Multiple parties work for parliamentary systems. It wouldn't work as well in our electoral system for electing Presidents.
ImperiusRex 3 years ago
About Bloomberg's comment: he left out the un-registered voters that would vote if there's a 3rd option.
judd73 3 years ago 2
Ralph Nader, let's go to a far away land and you can be president! Everyone will have health insurance, markets will be regulated, and the rich will not get away with murder. Wait, isn't that place called Europe (at least the first two points, non??)?
tbg538 3 years ago
"Markets will be regulated" ...in europe/EU? :X
I wish. Well they are "regulated" in the normal sense but the authority has been sort of looking the other way in order to make the european markets competitive...
Nuclearcx 3 years ago
very good point
Keylimedelight 3 years ago 2