I think one of the things that differentiates being "in a bad mood, feeling down, etc." from being truly depressed is that when you are depressed the consolations and encouragements of others seem hollow and meaningless. When people say to the depressed person that "they understand" it is unfortunately not the truth.
I think that people, teens/ young adults at least, should get a "psychological" in addition to their "physical." That would be a way to check mental health risks without stigma.
Daniel Woolf is a great man. He is in no way responsible for these recent tragic suicides. There is only so much he can do besides show solemn solidarity and give out the numbers of mental health resource centers.
The problem of young people taking their own lives is not new. If these things that unleash tragedy onto humanity time and again could be solved with a rally, a protest, and some pep and cheer, they would have been solved a millennium ago.
@AspiringPotato While Mr. Woolf is not directly responsible for the recent tragic suicides, he does have a large role to play in deciding what is prioritized at this university. To say that he is doing all that he can is quite naive. This video left out the many ideas students brought forward, actual things the administration could be doing but chose not to. For instance, having a suicide prevention plan, a sexual assault centre on campus, mental health first aid training for students etc.
@AspiringPotato While Mr. Woolf is not directly responsible for the recent tragic suicides, he does have a large role to play in deciding what is prioritized at this university. To say that he is doing all that he can is quite naive. This video left out the many ideas students brought forward, actual things the administration could be doing but chose not to. For instance, having a suicide prevention plan, a sexual assault centre on campus, mental health first aid training for students etc.
Those things are also available in the community. I'm sure that HCDS can refer people to a variety of resources. The suicide prevention plans/hotlines don't work if the depressed individual doesn't call them, and unfortunately they often don't. And frankly I'm dubious of how effectively students can be trained in 'mental health first aid.' If that was an optional day-long workshop how many people would bother to attend?
That is fair, I can only talk for myself. My experience suggests that some involved in Queenslovesu campaign share a similiar experience to my own, but that doesn't change, or deligitimize, the fact that you did not feel involved or engaged.
I'm very sincerely sorry if Queenslovesu had a marginalizing effect for you. If it did that was my failure and I don't have an answer for that.
I don't know much about the topic myself, but I'm sure there are a lot of things that go on behind the scenes that students are not aware of. I don't think this display of outrage was necessary, and I feel it could have been done in a different way. Students have a right to express their points of views, but that does not mean going out in front of Richardson Hall and bashing our principle. There are also many resources in the community that students DO NOT USE.
Having been the one who shot and edited the video I'd like to take a second to say that what happened at this rally was truly disappointing. This video was edited to focus on what was being said about mental illness but there was a lot of other topics that were edited out. People abused their soapbox and used it to voice other political complaints (Nick Day, Coke Contract, Board of trustees)
(These opinions are mine only and do not reflect the viewpoint of QTV)
You guys are SUCH nut-jobs! I walked by this rally just in time to watch you screw-ball protestors hurl the f-bomb at the principal; conveniently edited out.
SOMEONE NEEDS TO THROW YOU ALL INTO A GIANT TOILET AND FLUSH IT. You make Queens students look terrible. Go actually do something, idiots.
@joe22c I am only one of the creators of Queen's Loves U, but mental health, depression, and suicide is a factor in my family. I spent time with councillors as a child, and I still deal with stress, panic attacks, and feelingsof being overwhelmed and isolated.
I grapple with the fact that sharing this in public is stigmitizated, and as a man I am supposed to be strong and together. In short, it is hard to know who is well adjusted when nobody is comfortable talking about mental health.
I've grappled with depression for the last 4 years and I found Queen'sLovesYou completely pointless and silly. It does not make me feel any more comfortable about "coming out" - often the same people who put 'Queens Wubs U" on a pedestal are the same people who insensitively cast disparaging looks because you don't go out to party with them at Alfies or Stages every Friday.
I maintain that this event has mostly helped those who are feeling guilty, not those who are feeling lost.
Unfortunately, hoping for more resources is probably a pipe dream: Queen's has no money. What is possible, though unlikely, is a fundamental change in the culture of the university where the administration claims to reflect everyone but in reality ends up systemically marginalising those who deviate at all from some nubulous, priviledged norm. For health services to ask a friend of mine if their medically diagnosed mental-health issue "was actually real" is an example of this, and is shameful.
How is mental health about racism etc?? It's about chemistry of the brain that requires treatment. Bad things happen - some of us bounce back and some can't, it has nothing to do with the issues raised. Piggy backing their agenda on an important issue, for shame!
More funding would be helpful. But there are also hospitals in the city, the University isn't an island. And there are families to turn to, these students are not the property of Queen's. And Miss Economic Violence, orly? Nutbar.
This is good, but were the passive-aggressive remarks about Queen's Loves U really necessary? We're all working towards the same goal, why can't you see that? We need to unite about things like this, not bicker and squabble like children.
The people who are most likely to participate in the "Good Cheer" of Queen's Loves U are probably the least likely to be suffering from mental health issues. The ones who are prone to depression probably feel just as ostracized from the festivities; if they didn't feel like they fit in a month ago, they're not going to feel like they fit in because of some "lip dub".
The whole exercise is more akin to relieving the collective conscience of the already well-adjusted.
oh. my. god.
alyssaleclair1 10 months ago
to the girl in the zebra hood... he's your principal! it's okay to feel passionately but show some respect!
robinson6001 10 months ago 3
I think one of the things that differentiates being "in a bad mood, feeling down, etc." from being truly depressed is that when you are depressed the consolations and encouragements of others seem hollow and meaningless. When people say to the depressed person that "they understand" it is unfortunately not the truth.
I think that people, teens/ young adults at least, should get a "psychological" in addition to their "physical." That would be a way to check mental health risks without stigma.
AspiringPotato 11 months ago 4
Daniel Woolf is a great man. He is in no way responsible for these recent tragic suicides. There is only so much he can do besides show solemn solidarity and give out the numbers of mental health resource centers.
The problem of young people taking their own lives is not new. If these things that unleash tragedy onto humanity time and again could be solved with a rally, a protest, and some pep and cheer, they would have been solved a millennium ago.
AspiringPotato 11 months ago
@AspiringPotato While Mr. Woolf is not directly responsible for the recent tragic suicides, he does have a large role to play in deciding what is prioritized at this university. To say that he is doing all that he can is quite naive. This video left out the many ideas students brought forward, actual things the administration could be doing but chose not to. For instance, having a suicide prevention plan, a sexual assault centre on campus, mental health first aid training for students etc.
laurastairs 10 months ago 2
@AspiringPotato While Mr. Woolf is not directly responsible for the recent tragic suicides, he does have a large role to play in deciding what is prioritized at this university. To say that he is doing all that he can is quite naive. This video left out the many ideas students brought forward, actual things the administration could be doing but chose not to. For instance, having a suicide prevention plan, a sexual assault centre on campus, mental health first aid training for students etc.
laurastairs 10 months ago 3
@laurastairs
Those things are also available in the community. I'm sure that HCDS can refer people to a variety of resources. The suicide prevention plans/hotlines don't work if the depressed individual doesn't call them, and unfortunately they often don't. And frankly I'm dubious of how effectively students can be trained in 'mental health first aid.' If that was an optional day-long workshop how many people would bother to attend?
AspiringPotato 10 months ago
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samantha02050 11 months ago
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asadc13 11 months ago
That is fair, I can only talk for myself. My experience suggests that some involved in Queenslovesu campaign share a similiar experience to my own, but that doesn't change, or deligitimize, the fact that you did not feel involved or engaged.
I'm very sincerely sorry if Queenslovesu had a marginalizing effect for you. If it did that was my failure and I don't have an answer for that.
KevinMBImrie 11 months ago 3
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KevinMBImrie 11 months ago
I don't know much about the topic myself, but I'm sure there are a lot of things that go on behind the scenes that students are not aware of. I don't think this display of outrage was necessary, and I feel it could have been done in a different way. Students have a right to express their points of views, but that does not mean going out in front of Richardson Hall and bashing our principle. There are also many resources in the community that students DO NOT USE.
Ralyndi 11 months ago
Having been the one who shot and edited the video I'd like to take a second to say that what happened at this rally was truly disappointing. This video was edited to focus on what was being said about mental illness but there was a lot of other topics that were edited out. People abused their soapbox and used it to voice other political complaints (Nick Day, Coke Contract, Board of trustees)
(These opinions are mine only and do not reflect the viewpoint of QTV)
eugenefm 11 months ago
You guys are SUCH nut-jobs! I walked by this rally just in time to watch you screw-ball protestors hurl the f-bomb at the principal; conveniently edited out.
SOMEONE NEEDS TO THROW YOU ALL INTO A GIANT TOILET AND FLUSH IT. You make Queens students look terrible. Go actually do something, idiots.
mm03om 11 months ago 7
@joe22c I am only one of the creators of Queen's Loves U, but mental health, depression, and suicide is a factor in my family. I spent time with councillors as a child, and I still deal with stress, panic attacks, and feelingsof being overwhelmed and isolated.
I grapple with the fact that sharing this in public is stigmitizated, and as a man I am supposed to be strong and together. In short, it is hard to know who is well adjusted when nobody is comfortable talking about mental health.
KevinMBImrie 11 months ago 17
@KevinMBImrie
I've grappled with depression for the last 4 years and I found Queen'sLovesYou completely pointless and silly. It does not make me feel any more comfortable about "coming out" - often the same people who put 'Queens Wubs U" on a pedestal are the same people who insensitively cast disparaging looks because you don't go out to party with them at Alfies or Stages every Friday.
I maintain that this event has mostly helped those who are feeling guilty, not those who are feeling lost.
Joe22c 11 months ago 5
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what was that movement at 5:27?
also you guys are idiots
SomeGuy113124232352 11 months ago
Unfortunately, hoping for more resources is probably a pipe dream: Queen's has no money. What is possible, though unlikely, is a fundamental change in the culture of the university where the administration claims to reflect everyone but in reality ends up systemically marginalising those who deviate at all from some nubulous, priviledged norm. For health services to ask a friend of mine if their medically diagnosed mental-health issue "was actually real" is an example of this, and is shameful.
daveclassic89 11 months ago
How is mental health about racism etc?? It's about chemistry of the brain that requires treatment. Bad things happen - some of us bounce back and some can't, it has nothing to do with the issues raised. Piggy backing their agenda on an important issue, for shame!
More funding would be helpful. But there are also hospitals in the city, the University isn't an island. And there are families to turn to, these students are not the property of Queen's. And Miss Economic Violence, orly? Nutbar.
lordptarmy 11 months ago 6
This is good, but were the passive-aggressive remarks about Queen's Loves U really necessary? We're all working towards the same goal, why can't you see that? We need to unite about things like this, not bicker and squabble like children.
IdiotSlayer 11 months ago
@IdiotSlayer
The people who are most likely to participate in the "Good Cheer" of Queen's Loves U are probably the least likely to be suffering from mental health issues. The ones who are prone to depression probably feel just as ostracized from the festivities; if they didn't feel like they fit in a month ago, they're not going to feel like they fit in because of some "lip dub".
The whole exercise is more akin to relieving the collective conscience of the already well-adjusted.
Joe22c 11 months ago 10
@Joe22c Excellent point.
TCPG77 11 months ago
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KevinMBImrie 11 months ago
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KevinMBImrie 11 months ago
@Joe22c Lip Dub was event planned months in advance of Queen's Loves U event. Just released on the same day because of the spirit of the event.
QueensTV 10 months ago
I'm sorry but how does yelling at our principal that our chancellor is the ex(?) CEO of TD connect to Mental Health??????? Great Job QTV!
kobr89 11 months ago