that seems like a strange kesa Gatame, shouldnt the far side underhook be wrapped around ur head/neck - where the nickname "Scarf hold came from? because it looks like a scarf
which would make him already have his arm free and elliminate ur chance at the twister? (not trying to criticize only ask to learn how u ended up with him having the underhook rather than the more headlock position. )
@asid101010 Most BJJ guys will call the underhook version I'm using here a Kesa, when it clearly isn't what Judo guys would call it. BJJ folks often don't care about this distinction while Judo guys get pretty ticked off that we're so ambivalent about terminology. This is a larger conversation related to conservative/traditional martial arts vs. progressive sports that break the mold, break the rules, and ignore tradition on purpose.
The lockdown on the far leg "locks" his pelvis turned away from you. His pelvis holds the bottom part of his back in place. When you have his arm behind your neck on the opposite side, it "locks" the top part of his back in place. Pulling his head adds to this twisting leverage and ends up creating a lot of pressure in the middle of his back.
This is good stuff, but this is from a scarf variation where the hand is out from under the top guy. I think its called Kuzure Kesa Gatame. Just a small observation, but still its probably the easiest and most practical application I have seen of the Twister. The ones where you do all of the rolling just don't seem to realistic to pull off against a good BJJ guy or Judoka.
but what if the top guy tries to armbar your righthand on his right leg? and could you explain the crank please? it looks ike the same as the crucifix neck crank and i never could pull that one of
that seems like a strange kesa Gatame, shouldnt the far side underhook be wrapped around ur head/neck - where the nickname "Scarf hold came from? because it looks like a scarf
which would make him already have his arm free and elliminate ur chance at the twister? (not trying to criticize only ask to learn how u ended up with him having the underhook rather than the more headlock position. )
Thanks a lot.
asid101010 8 months ago
@asid101010 Most BJJ guys will call the underhook version I'm using here a Kesa, when it clearly isn't what Judo guys would call it. BJJ folks often don't care about this distinction while Judo guys get pretty ticked off that we're so ambivalent about terminology. This is a larger conversation related to conservative/traditional martial arts vs. progressive sports that break the mold, break the rules, and ignore tradition on purpose.
Anyway, the underhook version rocks. :)
budoatemaildotcom 7 months ago
Wow! Even when I can set up the twister, I sometimes have trouble finishing, but this is right there for the taking!
clipophile 9 months ago
nice at 50 seconds you have an arm triangle too sweet
tbnice1966 1 year ago
Solliiddd variation
infinummalum8 1 year ago
"If he gets his arm free... the twister is gone"
It's not gone just do the Chevy
msyms11 2 years ago
Great tecnique! Good instruction.
bexmx 3 years ago
Awesome very good move, i have a real easy time cuz i have long legs doin this, thanks a ton, and i look fwd to a private with you, im from ATX
admbjj 3 years ago
anatomical whydoes the neck crank when u lock the legs of your opponent? or does the neck always crank if you use that motion
stevenjonis 3 years ago
The lockdown on the far leg "locks" his pelvis turned away from you. His pelvis holds the bottom part of his back in place. When you have his arm behind your neck on the opposite side, it "locks" the top part of his back in place. Pulling his head adds to this twisting leverage and ends up creating a lot of pressure in the middle of his back.
budoatemaildotcom 3 years ago
u guys know your stuff well thank you
stevenjonis 3 years ago
This is good stuff, but this is from a scarf variation where the hand is out from under the top guy. I think its called Kuzure Kesa Gatame. Just a small observation, but still its probably the easiest and most practical application I have seen of the Twister. The ones where you do all of the rolling just don't seem to realistic to pull off against a good BJJ guy or Judoka.
jhelton0001 3 years ago
I agree that this is the easiest Twister to pull off. I've hit it so often most guys don't dare put me in a Kesa position anymore. :)
budoatemaildotcom 3 years ago
but what if the top guy tries to armbar your righthand on his right leg? and could you explain the crank please? it looks ike the same as the crucifix neck crank and i never could pull that one of
stevenjonis 3 years ago