carter ran 9.78, some hours ago in rieti +0,9m/s...a new man in the sub 9.8 club....If these guys(powel, blake, bolt, carter) stay healthy in 2012....a sub 37 on 4x100 is possible..
@sokha326 I hope so. All four of those guys have run under 9.90 in the 100m. Blake might be going sub 9.8 by 2012. I'll say it now, if all of these men stay healthy and focused, they'll DEFINITELY bring home that 4x100m gold medal in London.
@JAVLIGHTNING that would be sick!!!!thats a record waiting to be smashed. But I dont know...Nesta all of a sudden running crazy times....sounds like something is up, but hopefully not.
@944usainbolt but the 2nd 100 is the longest so I would say that Bolt go second. Blake is running a better turn regardless of what he said. he had a great 200 this year.
@944usainbolt That has nothing to do with it. If thats the case then Nesta Carter should be 3rd leg. The only reason why they put bolt and asafa at the end, back to back. is to assure that if they are behind, they could catch up. Now if they want to hit a world record then they would put bolt 2nd since he is the best on the st8 and the 2nd leg is the longest. Yohan had proven himself that he cold run the turn or the 1st leg. Nesta too. In conclusion, it a world record waiting to happen.
@dls2779 Bolt ran on 3rd because he's the fastest curve runner, Blake isn't strong around the bend, his 200m is similar to Wallace Spearmon's (weak bend, strong finish). Blake's top-end speed is definitely fast enough to run a great 2nd leg. Carter, Blake, Bolt, and Powell is the best order.
@phastman1994 lol, there is not doubt that Bolt is the best Curve runner, str8 runner, and possibly the last leg, in fact Bolt is the fastest runner alive, duh. Now if you want to take advantage of his speed, you would put him at the 2nd leg. Why???because the second leg is the longest leg on the track. So your saying that you would rather Blake to run the longest leg instead of the Fastest man on earth who runs the flying 100 better and faster then anyone alive???
@dls2779 I know what ur sayin but Bolt's curve is SO much faster than anyone else's on team Jamaica that they'd lose time if they put anyone other than Bolt on 3rd. Notice how the Americans use the exact same strategy with Gay? (who's in the same situation as Bolt) which they did in Osaka 07 and even this year in Zurich where they just missed the AR by .05s. If the two best teams are using the same strategy, they're doin somethin right.
@phastman1994 Nooo,you got it confused.Usually the fastest runner is placed last right?The strategy of putting gay at the end was too much of a risk since there were competitive runners against them so they placed him on the 3rd leg. Now, other teams would have to play catch up. Jamaica tried to do the same thing and Bolt's split was a 9.3 around the curve. Jamaica has 4 runners that went 9.8 at one point. If they want to take advantage, they should put Bolt on the 2nd leg to break the record.
@dls2779 Bolt's split in Beijing was 8.98, Gay's split in Osaka was 9.05, no one else can run curves like those. It was a risk to put Gay on 2nd or anchor because there were competitive sprinters on 3rd? When? In Osaka the Jamaicans had Carter on 3rd (at the time wasn't a threat) and Powell (there fastest) as anchor, and in Zurich last year the Jamaicans had Mullings on 3rd (also not a threat), and Blake as anchor (also there fastest) same goes with Jamaica vs Trinidad in Beijing and Berlin.
@phastman1994 You act like I was wrong, Bolt's split for World Championships was a 9.3. Sounds disappointing right..And you said Carter wasnt a factor..lol. and what the heck are you saying?there were competitive sprinters running 3rd leg and thats why they put gay there or not?? your statements are confusing. I think you proven my point. To win against competition is different from going for a world record. You should know that.
@dls2779 I guess we just have two different philosophies in the 4x4. Usually the strongest runners run the anchor (to finish strong) and 2nd leg (the longest leg in the race). The way I see it, when the fastest runner is placed third, they want to make sure the lead on the final leg, however, that does not secure a win. If there is another Bolt out there on the final leg, they could catch up to them...But we see it differently.
@phastman1994 I never said that there was competition in the third leg. I said that there was too much competition--never narrowed down to third leg. My argument was, if they were to put Gay at the end with Asafa, most likely, Gay would get the stick after Asafa thus decreasing the likelyhood of them winning. So they put Gay 3rd so they could get pass the stick before asafa giving them a chance to win which they did. Did you not read that in my comments??USA was trying to win,key word WIN.
@dls2779 Oh, well to me it sounded like you were sayin there was competition on the 3rd leg, but moving on.. I understand what ur sayin now but still, putting Gay and Bolt on 3rd results a faster time simply because there curve is literally untouchable, even more so than there top-end speed (as crazy as it sounds). Zurich last year wasn't an important race, if the Americans wanted to experiment they could've put Gay on 2nd or anchor but they didn't, I'm sure they know what they're doin..
@dls2779 phastman1994 is right, Bolt is better suited to 3rd leg than Blake. Blake never runs good bends in the 200m. Your point about the 2nd leg being the longest is invalid. 2nd leg runs 80-200m including acceleration, 3rd runs 180-300m, 4th runs 280-400m. 1st leg only runs 100m (starts in blocks, no acceleration). Bolt can run a sub-10 bend whenever he wants to, Blake can't. Bolt has experience and success on 3rd (double gold). Carter-Blake-Bolt-Powell is by far the best order
@dls2779 phastman1994 is right, Bolt is better suited to 3rd leg than Blake. Blake never runs good bends in the 200m. Your point about the 2nd leg being the longest is invalid. 2nd leg runs 80-200m including acceleration, 3rd runs 180-300m, 4th runs 280-400m. 1st leg only runs 100m (starts in blocks, no acceleration). Bolt can run a sub-10 bend whenever he wants to, Blake can't. Bolt has experience and success on 3rd (double gold). Carter-Blake-Bolt-Powell is by far the best order
@phastman1994 Something to think about..when in history,other then Bolt and Gay did they put the fastest runner in the 3rd leg?Do some research and find out the philosophies of running.I understand how you feel, but to put the fastest runner at 3rd because he could run the curb well is not the best way to use him. Its like putting Asafa first because he has the best start...???But some people do it and it works for them but if they want to break the record...Dont want to keep repeating myself
@dls2779 True, never in 4x100m history has the fastest sprinter run on 3rd BUT at the same time, never in 4x100m history has the fastest sprinter ALSO been BY FAR the best curve runner on the team.
@dls2779 lol what are you talkin about? Bolt's split in Berlin was 9.12. And you said there were competitive sprinters on 3rd which is why it would be risky to put Gay anywhere else, but thats not true at all, Carter (who ran 3rd in Osaka) wasn't a threat back in 07, same goes with Zurich last year where Steve Mullings, also not a threat, ran on 3rd for Jamaica, so competition obviously has nothing to do with why the Jamaicans and Americans use that strategy with Bolt and Gay.
@dls2779 It has nothing to do with competition, Bolt and Gay are dominant curve runners, no one can replace them around the bend even though they'd also have the fastest 2nd leg or anchor.
Who was that guy who won?
marvinbienaime1 5 months ago
carter ran 9.78, some hours ago in rieti +0,9m/s...a new man in the sub 9.8 club....If these guys(powel, blake, bolt, carter) stay healthy in 2012....a sub 37 on 4x100 is possible..
davisiba1 1 year ago
@davisiba1 Perhaps next year... in the World Championships in Korea.
sequiaonda78 1 year ago
What a fantastic times from they both !!!
These athletes of today are in very good progress!!
torrepr 1 year ago
it looks like an advertissement for steroids.
partouche3000 1 year ago
Jamaican relay - Bolt, Powell, Blake and Carter? Sub 37?
sokha326 1 year ago
@sokha326 no doubt man !!!!
JAVLIGHTNING 1 year ago
@sokha326 I hope so. All four of those guys have run under 9.90 in the 100m. Blake might be going sub 9.8 by 2012. I'll say it now, if all of these men stay healthy and focused, they'll DEFINITELY bring home that 4x100m gold medal in London.
EPizits 1 year ago
@EPizits Hmmm who to anchor?
1. Mullings, 2. Blake, 3. Bolt, 4. Powell
or
1. Carter, 2. Blake, 3.Bolt, 4. Powell
:O?
sokha326 1 year ago
@sokha326 Don't forget about Michael Frater. He ran a very good second leg in that WR run in Beijing.
EPizits 1 year ago
@sokha326 1 leg, nesta carter, 2 leg, yohan blake, 3 leg, usain bolt and the anchor would be asafa powell
we all saw how asafa blasted through the finish line in beijing !!!!!
JAVLIGHTNING 1 year ago
@JAVLIGHTNING i wouldnt trust asafa to anchor.he has not guts
bgee4 1 year ago
@bgee4 No guts? He ran the fastest anchor EVER in Beijing. He might not do well in the open 100, but in the relay he's a beast!
EPizits 1 year ago
@JAVLIGHTNING that would be sick!!!!thats a record waiting to be smashed. But I dont know...Nesta all of a sudden running crazy times....sounds like something is up, but hopefully not.
dls2779 1 year ago
@sokha326 thats okay but change the order.
1. Carter, 2. Bolt, 3 Blake, 4 Powell
The 2nd leg is the longest so Bolt could take advantage of it and I think Blake has been running the curb from the 200 great.
dls2779 1 year ago
@dls2779 blake doesnt run a good turn he even said so in an interview
so its better if its 1. Carter 2. Blake 3. Bolt. 4.Powell
944usainbolt 1 year ago
@944usainbolt but the 2nd 100 is the longest so I would say that Bolt go second. Blake is running a better turn regardless of what he said. he had a great 200 this year.
dls2779 1 year ago
@dls2779 he wudnt run a better turn than bolt. Also Bolt and Powell and have more experience exchanging batons with each other .
944usainbolt 1 year ago
@944usainbolt That has nothing to do with it. If thats the case then Nesta Carter should be 3rd leg. The only reason why they put bolt and asafa at the end, back to back. is to assure that if they are behind, they could catch up. Now if they want to hit a world record then they would put bolt 2nd since he is the best on the st8 and the 2nd leg is the longest. Yohan had proven himself that he cold run the turn or the 1st leg. Nesta too. In conclusion, it a world record waiting to happen.
dls2779 1 year ago
@dls2779 Bolt ran on 3rd because he's the fastest curve runner, Blake isn't strong around the bend, his 200m is similar to Wallace Spearmon's (weak bend, strong finish). Blake's top-end speed is definitely fast enough to run a great 2nd leg. Carter, Blake, Bolt, and Powell is the best order.
phastman1994 1 year ago
@phastman1994 lol, there is not doubt that Bolt is the best Curve runner, str8 runner, and possibly the last leg, in fact Bolt is the fastest runner alive, duh. Now if you want to take advantage of his speed, you would put him at the 2nd leg. Why???because the second leg is the longest leg on the track. So your saying that you would rather Blake to run the longest leg instead of the Fastest man on earth who runs the flying 100 better and faster then anyone alive???
dls2779 1 year ago
@dls2779 I know what ur sayin but Bolt's curve is SO much faster than anyone else's on team Jamaica that they'd lose time if they put anyone other than Bolt on 3rd. Notice how the Americans use the exact same strategy with Gay? (who's in the same situation as Bolt) which they did in Osaka 07 and even this year in Zurich where they just missed the AR by .05s. If the two best teams are using the same strategy, they're doin somethin right.
phastman1994 1 year ago
@phastman1994 Nooo,you got it confused.Usually the fastest runner is placed last right?The strategy of putting gay at the end was too much of a risk since there were competitive runners against them so they placed him on the 3rd leg. Now, other teams would have to play catch up. Jamaica tried to do the same thing and Bolt's split was a 9.3 around the curve. Jamaica has 4 runners that went 9.8 at one point. If they want to take advantage, they should put Bolt on the 2nd leg to break the record.
dls2779 1 year ago
@dls2779 Bolt's split in Beijing was 8.98, Gay's split in Osaka was 9.05, no one else can run curves like those. It was a risk to put Gay on 2nd or anchor because there were competitive sprinters on 3rd? When? In Osaka the Jamaicans had Carter on 3rd (at the time wasn't a threat) and Powell (there fastest) as anchor, and in Zurich last year the Jamaicans had Mullings on 3rd (also not a threat), and Blake as anchor (also there fastest) same goes with Jamaica vs Trinidad in Beijing and Berlin.
phastman1994 1 year ago
@phastman1994 You act like I was wrong, Bolt's split for World Championships was a 9.3. Sounds disappointing right..And you said Carter wasnt a factor..lol. and what the heck are you saying?there were competitive sprinters running 3rd leg and thats why they put gay there or not?? your statements are confusing. I think you proven my point. To win against competition is different from going for a world record. You should know that.
dls2779 1 year ago
@dls2779 I guess we just have two different philosophies in the 4x4. Usually the strongest runners run the anchor (to finish strong) and 2nd leg (the longest leg in the race). The way I see it, when the fastest runner is placed third, they want to make sure the lead on the final leg, however, that does not secure a win. If there is another Bolt out there on the final leg, they could catch up to them...But we see it differently.
dls2779 1 year ago
@dls2779 If Bolt and Gay weren't such dominant curve runners they probably would be on 2nd or anchor.
phastman1994 1 year ago
@phastman1994 I never said that there was competition in the third leg. I said that there was too much competition--never narrowed down to third leg. My argument was, if they were to put Gay at the end with Asafa, most likely, Gay would get the stick after Asafa thus decreasing the likelyhood of them winning. So they put Gay 3rd so they could get pass the stick before asafa giving them a chance to win which they did. Did you not read that in my comments??USA was trying to win,key word WIN.
dls2779 1 year ago
@dls2779 Oh, well to me it sounded like you were sayin there was competition on the 3rd leg, but moving on.. I understand what ur sayin now but still, putting Gay and Bolt on 3rd results a faster time simply because there curve is literally untouchable, even more so than there top-end speed (as crazy as it sounds). Zurich last year wasn't an important race, if the Americans wanted to experiment they could've put Gay on 2nd or anchor but they didn't, I'm sure they know what they're doin..
phastman1994 1 year ago
@dls2779 phastman1994 is right, Bolt is better suited to 3rd leg than Blake. Blake never runs good bends in the 200m. Your point about the 2nd leg being the longest is invalid. 2nd leg runs 80-200m including acceleration, 3rd runs 180-300m, 4th runs 280-400m. 1st leg only runs 100m (starts in blocks, no acceleration). Bolt can run a sub-10 bend whenever he wants to, Blake can't. Bolt has experience and success on 3rd (double gold). Carter-Blake-Bolt-Powell is by far the best order
speedyslime93 5 months ago
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@dls2779 phastman1994 is right, Bolt is better suited to 3rd leg than Blake. Blake never runs good bends in the 200m. Your point about the 2nd leg being the longest is invalid. 2nd leg runs 80-200m including acceleration, 3rd runs 180-300m, 4th runs 280-400m. 1st leg only runs 100m (starts in blocks, no acceleration). Bolt can run a sub-10 bend whenever he wants to, Blake can't. Bolt has experience and success on 3rd (double gold). Carter-Blake-Bolt-Powell is by far the best order
speedyslime93 5 months ago
@phastman1994 Something to think about..when in history,other then Bolt and Gay did they put the fastest runner in the 3rd leg?Do some research and find out the philosophies of running.I understand how you feel, but to put the fastest runner at 3rd because he could run the curb well is not the best way to use him. Its like putting Asafa first because he has the best start...???But some people do it and it works for them but if they want to break the record...Dont want to keep repeating myself
dls2779 1 year ago
@dls2779 True, never in 4x100m history has the fastest sprinter run on 3rd BUT at the same time, never in 4x100m history has the fastest sprinter ALSO been BY FAR the best curve runner on the team.
phastman1994 1 year ago
@dls2779 lol what are you talkin about? Bolt's split in Berlin was 9.12. And you said there were competitive sprinters on 3rd which is why it would be risky to put Gay anywhere else, but thats not true at all, Carter (who ran 3rd in Osaka) wasn't a threat back in 07, same goes with Zurich last year where Steve Mullings, also not a threat, ran on 3rd for Jamaica, so competition obviously has nothing to do with why the Jamaicans and Americans use that strategy with Bolt and Gay.
phastman1994 1 year ago
@dls2779 It has nothing to do with competition, Bolt and Gay are dominant curve runners, no one can replace them around the bend even though they'd also have the fastest 2nd leg or anchor.
phastman1994 1 year ago
Dix is too big! He need to let some of that muscle go because he can barely lift his knees.
Paco801 1 year ago