E-D 3D Glasses

[onammix]

hello, one question.... where is video see four product.... link , site web ????

so much thansk

[johnk731]

My 100hz Trinitron finally died. I went looking for another CRT monitor that would do as well (1280x1024) and there really aren't any. The more recently manufactured ones (that would still be functioning today) are more like 85Hz.

[HatlabuFarkas]

for ATI RADEON USERS ??? we can use it ? (With IZ3d soft) ?

[kilinito1]

will any nvidia glasses work with the transmitter?

[dabigtyme82]

"The size of the head you have." ??What?? LOL

[adnane512]

i cant see 3d effect because i have strabismus can you help find a solution (i can see with one eye at a time )

[VietHNguyen]

HI, thank you for the information.

I'm thinking about buying it. Does it work with a laptop?.

Thanks

[barichm0]

@VietHNguyen

See my other comment, which was wrongly marked as spam. Click "Show" to show it.

[MatthewBryce]

this only works on CRT moniters not on LCD/TFT

3D systems that use glasses with shutters don't work with LCD /TFT displays because the refresh rate is randomized, meaning the glasses cant be synced properly.

thats why they're bringing out new 3D-Tv's, they have OLED displays that have a constant refresh-rate so 3Dtv and gaming is possible...

[barichm0]

@MatthewBryce

Incorrect.

LCD displays, like other displays, DO refresh at a constant rate -- but with varying pixel response times.

In the past, LCD displays did not have fast enough pixel response times to work with shutter glasses, but today they do, although not very well.

The eD glasses DO work with LCD monitors. I have them, and have used them with LCD monitors.

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[barichm0]

@MatthewBryce

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Unfortunately, the 3D monitors and 3D televisions that are currently being brought out do NOT have OLED displays -- they have LCD displays. That results in ghosting.

[autonomous2010]

@VietHNguyen Only if your Laptop has a VGA monitor output connector.

I have only seen a few laptops that actually have this connector.

[aliensarereal1]

Weird too weird.

[johnk731]

An E3D clone ("x3d gaming system") is available new on amazon for $11. I'm using them and there is some ghosting on my Trinitron CRT at 100Hz; I don't have the E3d glasses to compare against though.

[barichm0]

johnk731:

Yes -- but the X3D system does NOT work with LCD monitors.

[johnk731]

To test if your game is going to work, you don't need to buy the glasses. Just install the Nvidia stereo drivers and see if you get two images on the screen when you run the game. The dongle is just syncing with the video. It's all about drivers. I'm running on Win98 on my desktop with a Nvidia 5500 and the Nvidia stereo driver is a little unstable. The iZ3d drivers work on my Vista laptop (7000), but only in interlace mode. XP is supposed to be best.

[leedeenee]

can it work on intel video card please reply

[johnk731]

LCD monitors almost always have a max vertical rate of 60 Hz, with maybe one mode that will go to 75 Hz. My Canopus Total3D shutter glasses from 1991 required 85 Hz. There are only a couple models out there that can handle 120 Hz, and they are currently $250. The good news is that the current "losing" systems (iz3d and Zalman) have dropped to the same price, and they don't need shutter glasses, just cheapo polarized ones. But they have some ghosting and only have Vista drivers.

[johnk731]

And I should have mentioned that the iz3d and Zalman require TWO dvi inputs, which I guess is normal for the nVidia cards (>=8800 I think) that do this kind of thing. And maybe they do have XP drivers -- there is mention of it on their sites.

[barichm0]

@johnk731

NO.

The statements that you made about the "iz3d and Zalman" are ONLY true about iZ3D, NOT about the Zalman Trimon monitors.

The polarization technology that the Zalman Trimon monitors use is completely different from that of the iZ3D monitors, and the Zalman Trimon monitors do NOT have those weaknesses. The Zalman Trimon monitors do NOT require dual video inputs, they use circular polarization, and ghosting is very minimal.

[barichm0]

@johnk731

Also note that although one major review says that with Trimon monitors, there are more "lines" visible than with an "ordinary" monitor even when the glasses are off, I and others have found that that is COMPLETELY untrue.

Another advantage of Trimon monitors is that they support horizontal interleaving -- which is one of the standard formats for stereoscopic 3D content. Because of that, you can even use the ED drivers with them -- even with a DVI digital video connection.

[barichm0]

@johnk731

I have a 22" Zalman Trimon monitor (the largest size available), and it is currently the best of the affordable stereoscopic 3D viewing systems.

In fact, at least at the present time, it is in many ways even better than the nVidia 3D Vision system, because it supports full-screen interleaving and has less ghosting than nVidia 3D Vision does with LCD monitors.

[killbillet420]

will it work with any game at all, if i buy a pair for my media computer in my living room?? since ive got it hooked up to my tv through vga???, can someone please message me about it, thanks

[barichm0]

killbillet420:

I'm not sure, because I've been in occasional contact with eDimensional and they once told me that it will NOT work with a plasma display because the scanning is not correct.

Anyway, it is NOT a good idea to get the current eDimensional system -- it is old and outdated -- with NO support for a digital video connection. eD has told me that they are at work on a new system -- but until they release that, stick with nV 3D Vision or the Zalman Trimon LCD monitor.

[killbillet420]

thanks for the reply barichm0

[barichm0]

@killbillet420

Here's a VERY helpful piece of advice for you and others:

Next time you get a computer monitor, BE SURE to get the 22" Zalman Trimon monitor (the largest available).

Apart from "3D Ready" TVs -- which are very expensive -- the Zalman Trimon monitor is the best stereoscopic 3D viewing system currently available. It uses circular polarized glasses, so it has full color quality just as LCD shutter glasses do.

And it's particularly good even for non-stereoscopic purposes.

[9kolajbertelsen]

Help me out here. I have a radeon 3870 gfx with dvi output and youre telling me it's not possible to use the glasses with that card?

[barichm0]

@9kolajbertelsen

Not unless you use a VGA analog video connection.

[DJtestor]

@9kolajbertelsen Just use one of the DVI-VGA converters that came with the card :) You should have a spare vga cable that came with your monitor. So thats DVI-VGA on output of 3d card, and vga cable from output of dongle to monitor.

[barichm0]

DJtestor:

Even if that works, the video signal the monitor recieves will still be analog, NOT digital.

[DJtestor]

@barichm0 I think you are confusing yourslef. Vga is analog and Dvi is digital. The Ed3d system will work with analog.

[barichm0]

DJtestor:

NO, I'm NOT confusing myself.

VGA is always analog, but DVI can be either analog or digital, although DVI is usually digital.

The ED system REQUIRES a VGA connection. That means that whether it's analog or digital DVI, for it to work with a DVI output, you have to use a converter that converts it to a VGA -- analog -- connection.

Although you can do that, the video signal the monitor recieves will still be VGA -- analog. That's the point that I was making.

[Diegog5]

nvidia's 3d vission is allot better and free...well you need to have an nvidia graphics card which most of us do.

[barichm0]

nVidia 3D Vision ABSOLUTELY is NOT free.

With it, the system itself costs almost $200, and on top of that it requires a "3D Ready" display -- which most people DON'T already have.

[Diegog5]

NVIDIA 3D VISION DISCOVER is completely free as long as you have any Graphics card 8800 and above.

I think you are talking about the bundle which it is really expensive.

[barichm0]

NO, I'm talking about the nVidia 3D Vision LCD shutter glasses viewing system.

The system ALONE is almost $200, and the bundle -- which includes BOTH the system AND a "3D Ready" LCD monitor -- is almost $600.

Although NVIDIA 3D VISION DISCOVER is free, NVIDIA 3D VISION DISCOVER uses colored glasses -- which, as everyone knows, messes up the colors.

Colored 3D glasses are one of the main reasons that stereoscopic 3D entertainment hasn't caught on until now.

[GpZ91]

does it work with laptops?

[markukkerd]

No, I don't think that it works with laptops but buy it anyway because it is so cool 4:48

[markukkerd]

Buy the 3D glasses at:  edimensional(DOT)com

[markukkerd]

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[johnk731]

I tried very hard to get E3D to work with my laptop. **IF** you could get the "clone display" to actually put a signal on the external VGA connector, it would work, because the dongle for the glasses is very much output only, mostly just looking for vertical sync. But the drivers are too smart for their own good; they want to have a conversation with the monitor. I searched for a dongle that would fake a monitor, but couldn't find anything.

I bought an old CRT; it does 100Hz at 1280x1024.

[barichm0]

johnk731:

Also, the dongle is what does line-blanking and sync-doubling.

eDimensional has told me that they are looking at the possibility of releasing a new system that uses a USB dongle. That would be fantastic, because it would allow for ANY type of display and ANY type of video connection, analog or digital. Unfortunately, however, ED is probably not going to be releasing such a system soon.

Also note that ONLY the old-generation nVidia S3D drivers work with ED -- NOT 3D Vision.

[zeldajunkielol2]

Just AS Good as cyber fx!

[dudisguy]

HAHAHA!

[MachineFight]

0:19 "Hello again Im Super Mario and welcome to my sick 2d world" xD

[ciril2010]

I have them too, is nothing to die for.

Best is to get - VIDEO GLASSES

[8ballbreakandrun]

uhhuh uhhuh huh, hey beavis, he said "dongle"......

[ArcaneDragonX]

Hi, Billy Mayes here with a great new product!!

That's who this guy reminds me of in the opening...minus the accent.

[Ryuuken24]

What in earth is all the flickering ? How do you stand it. Its been a good while, so now you can tell the truth, did it flicker or didn't it flicker.. The glasses recomend 100hz monitor, and I'm sure not many Lcds where made for it..

[barichm0]

Ryuuken24:

I have done extensive experimentation and research into that and here's the answer:

When current display technology is used with LCD shutter glasses:

If you are using a CONTINUOUS display (such as an LCD monitor or television), for there to be absolutely no flickering, the refresh rate has to be 120 Hz or higher.

If you are using a PULSED display (such as a CRT monitor or television), for there to be absolutely no flickering, the refresh rate has to be 240 Hz or higher.

[GrobMajstorDejan]

he he I like this guy!

[MaKaElectric]

Not about these glasses but I seen My Bloody Valintine tonight in 3D. Very cool stuff. Good movie to.

[Lokivoid]

Junk

[Grungerzx2eb]

I just bought these for £7 lol

[jvandervalk]

LOL

[cool12291]

does this work on all games? like cod4 and crysis etc...

[Gamer686]

Yep

[RonTheelen472]

i go order a wired version

[SweetHeart4563]

CRT is the name of the live action theatre in my town.

[tidycat4]

I bet the reason they don't have this as a peripheral for the PS3 yet is because it causes seizures and migraines or something.

[tidycat4]

So you can only play PC titles? Sorry, but I'm a lazy gamer. They should make one for the PS3 so I can use it.

I would buy it in a heartbeat.

[commando2413]

i think you can with the VirtualFX 3D TV Converter

[Diegog5]

Go to their website, they also sell them for regular T.V's and they also work with regular programs and shows and other consoles.

Website: edimensional (*) com

[fish67y]

does that work should i buy it  eD glasses

[Diegog5]

I have a read alot of reviews and most of them (almost all of them) were negative. They said that first of all the glasses don't work with all the games. It works with SOME of the old games like Halo, Ghost Recon (the 1st). Also the glasses are made out of cheap plastic and alot of people were having problems, they were seeing alot of flickering to the point were the game became unplayable. There were also alot of technical issues. So at the end I decide it not to buy them.

[warlockboyburns]

works badly with lcd because the refresh rate is usually only 60hz where as crt are high like mine for e.g. which is 85hz (refresh rate is the speed at which the monitor flickers)

[WARP10CK]

It`s a suckass product

[warlockboyburns]

nah it's good... it all depends on the refresh rate .. if you have a 100hz refresh rate monitor it works awsomely and is less dark

[HANU8]

I have ed 3d glasses,I also have an LCD monitor

ther is the 3d efect but because of the low refres rate (75hz)I can't say that this 3D glasses worth there money.But If you have a CRT

monitor I supose that the glasses will work fine.But you can wait for the samsung 3D ready TV glasses.

[PadraigW]

Exactly, I had a pair of these when they first came out and and I was running them on a normal CRT @ 1024 x 768 / 85hz, This wasn't enough to evade the darkness and flicker, but as soon as I brought a better monitor with a way higher refresh rate it worked perfectly as you stated.

[warlockboyburns]

do i know you?

[WARP10CK]

Im from Norway so no I dont think so

[highnoon3777]

Hey groovesalad123:  You stole this from 3DGAMEMAN. Show some class and make your own videos.

[Jamesisinthehouse12]

it says in the video discription that it supports both CRT and LCD monitors...???

[Jamesisinthehouse12]

does it work on LCD's?

[Jamesisinthehouse12]

u can get them shipped

(no u can't get them in Australia)

[togu84]

doesnt work with your brain owigam

[OwigamiHey]

Doesn't work with LCD monitors.

[Jamesisinthehouse12]

It says it does...???

[OwigamiHey]

If you go to the official website of the glasses, it says it doesn't work with LDCs. The video description is wrong.

[HANU8]

It does work with LCD monitors but not with laptops monitors.Go to the official website.

[pcgic]

great review pal thanks

[pfs113]

Why haven't I heard of these until today? Exactly one year since this video was posted!? Lol. Perhaps someone who has tried them can answer this: Does it work well with all current desktop games, like the high end ones?

[metafis]

i have these, they are brilliant, wouldnt be without them now.

you really need an nvidia card and either a crt monitor or a dlp projector tho.

[PuffMac]

$100 and with the current exchange rate i can get them for about £50 here in scotland :)C'MON THE EXCHANGE RATE

[nurbsenvi]

I really hope this takes off...

[karusell80]

this is the future folks!

[Dagibit]

Uh... so how much is this?

[dazzn91]

THANKS FOR THIS, GREAT VID