Matt Taibbi on Obama's Big Sellout

[secretbubba3]

Watch "The Warning" Frontline.

[Crimsonphilosophy]

if feel like this guy is about to go "enough of that here's a cut from the Supremes comin at ya top of the hour!

[ScottBrown666]

@quinnmcguee As bad as shit is now, it would be at least a little worse is McCain was elected. I was going to say a lot worse, but then I started thinking... And Obama did get a few good things done, but the major things he just gave what the Republicans wanted up front, and then got called a communist by them for it. But yeah, fuck the health company bill. I'm sick of paying for these freeloading insurance companies to eat watermelon all day.

Single-payer WHAT?!?!

[guinnesstrail]

Low Information voters

[bourdette]

Loser!

[fuzzywzhe]

> Oh, I see. you're a Ron Paul supported. Sorry I even

> bothered debating you. You're obviously completely

> beyond reason.

I liked when Ron Paul brought up the 1953 US coup in Iran that overthrew the Democracy there with Operation Ajax - which led to the creation of the Iranian Revolution to throw out the US, which then spread to the Islamic Revolution after 1979.

Like Americans are even smart enough to understand that.

Paul is nuts - he thinks the average Amercian isn't a retard.

[erikinhawaii]

@fuzzywzhe One year later do you still think Ron Paul is nuts? Seriously, think about it. One year I am sure you seen what this man has brought to the table (Ending the Fed Reserve, pulling our troops our of the Middle East the latter Obama promised to do). I won't say anything. You got the floor.

[fuzzywzhe]

@erikinhawaii I never said Ron Paul was crazy. He's not.

I just found it highly entertaining that Ron Paul during a debate discussed the overthrow the Iranian democracy in 1953 by the US government as an example of why the people in the Middle East might be upset with our government. After all, Operation Ajax was performed for the sole purpose of stealing oil resources.

Paul's craziness is believing your average STUPID American can put the puzzle pieces together. They're too fucking dumb.

[fuzzywzhe]

> The only campaign ideals he's strayed from are

> being against budget freezes

.. and ending the wars

and repealing the patriot act

and ending unconstitutional warrantless wiretapping

and opening up government to transparency

and posting bills online before being signed into law

oh - and any change whatsoever.

Other than that, he's kept his campaign promises.

[fuzzywzhe]

> Obama has significantly limited warantless wiretapping. I

No he has not! Quit being such a fucking tool and supporting this Neocon traitor, you stupid bitch. You are supporting Bush, you stupid tool, quit being used.

> He never said anything about ending the wars that I saw.

You didn't watch the debates, did you? Rewriter of history.

I have as much respect for Democrats that support Obama as I did with those LOSERS that supported Bush. How much do you have be fucked anyhow?

[fuzzywzhe]

> Listen dipshit, I watched every single debate

> and read everything Obama wrote. but you don't remember him saying this:

""I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank. "

Remember when he promised to "end the use of torture without exception" - Guantanmo is still open.

You're just the left version of Neocunts.

[PerryLogan]

Obama is using all the Clinton people--and yet getting exactly the opposite results. Have these people lost their mojo, or is Obama incompetent? Discuss.

[jimlaregina]

ROLLING STONE, Air America Radio, THE NATION magazine Randi Rhodes and Michael Moore all sound like they are reciting Ralph Nader's essays and speeches from memory.  Yet not only do they support corporate Democrats like John Kerry and Barack Obama, they actually speak as if Ralph Nader was breaking the law by running for president.

[DaHonestAbe]

So you gave up on voting to huh?

[andreaostrovletania]

Obama didn't sell out. He was bought from the beginning. Taibbi is full of shit.

[Plutonwolf]

All I can say is this. All of my friends with small businesses are rapidly going bust or dropping employee medical coverage. What does this tell anyone? And as a side note, my parents pay 14,000 a year in health insurance premiums.....with medicaire in the mix. Now, with all of the money invested in the bankster bail out, could we have done something about getting coverage for all? And screw anyone who whines about "Guvmint Helfcare", the status quo is pure poison, no question.

[pixl8ed1]

Um, Plutonwolf, that's "gummint Hefcare".

I'm a transplanted hillbilly, and I know this stuff.

[MrSalamander7]

@quinnmcguee Yes, I see your qualm.

[lynchmobb2000]

@quinnmcguee

Quinn, you are the victim of a crime no different from a mugging or burglary. I empathize with your story.

I am very fortunate to have been healthy and to have had insurance my whole life, but I am teetering on the edge of cancelling it. I am a small business owner and I pay full freight so if I gamble on being healthy, I could pocket the premium and build up my savings rather than shell out to the criminal enterprise known as private insurance.

Cheers

[wvprogressive1933]

Cynthia McKinney '12!

[psnsam]

Glenn Beck 2012!!!

[wistoncap]

I got played for a sucker too, I was even stupid enough to go out and campaign for the lying cocksucker, I don't care if its a Cheney/Palin ticket in 2012... Ill be staying home.

[Umberto2]

They're all liars. The people have no voice anymore. We are at the mercy of a government that has been completely corrupted by corporations. We live in a fascist country. It's that simple.

[blackjedi47]

@Umberto2 look at the responses man, we live in the country WE made, this is US!!

[MrSalamander7]

@quinnmcguee If you expect to be covered despite previous conditions then you must accept being required to buy it if you can afford it. If people weren't required to but were still accepted regardless of their pasts then they would just wait till they needed insurance to get it. It's a tactic to prevent the system from being abused. Obama is a sellout, though.

[lynchmobb2000]

@MrSalamander7

I agree that Obama is a sellout and I'm glad I voted for Nader, but I think qunnmcguee's point is about private insurers kicking people off once they get sick.

I agree that it would not be desirable from the pov of the insurer for sick people to just sign up, but then again, it's not illegal and the vast majority of poeple who have been denied care are long term policy holders.

I think we are on the same side here, but I don't accept the rationalizations of the insurers.