You're like a nudist who explains that nudity is obviously best because clothed people can't agree on a uniform. The fact that people disagree on things of the spirit doesn't imply that it's best to reject all spiritual things.
@kmsoileau "You're like a nudist who explains that nudity is obviously best because clothed people can't agree on a uniform. The fact that people disagree on things of the spirit doesn't imply that it's best to reject all spiritual things." Sorry but that's a straw-man argument. The fact that christians can't agree on what is true and what is not, is just one of the many arguments against theism, Zinnia has discussed.
@kmsoileau No its best to reject all thinks spiritual because to believe in anything outside of the natural world is dillusional and causes problems that have no reason to exist.
@kmsoileau spiritual things dont have any reality they are a invention of man I have seen no proof that spiritual phenomena is nothing but a trick or a feeling in the brain but if something comes along that disproves that I will gladly modify my ideas
Religion and mythology are very much the same thing. Mythology is just "obsolete religion!"
The bible is an eclectic assortment of stories and advice for various people who lived at various times. Some is good advice, some bad. It's certainly not literally true and I find it incredible that anyone would believe that.
There is no agreed upon interperatation because there are different interperatations of anything that can possibly evoke emotion and this issue happens to evoke emotion in litteraly billions (once you count people of every faith that consider Christ to be divine, a prophet or a wise man. Ultimately so long as you can back up what you say and it isn't invalidated by other parts of the bible you can't be far off the mark. and yes there are many Christians who disagree, nothing wrong with that.
@Llywellyn94 I think you have to be careful with saying as long as you have it backed up. The entire purpose of hermeneutics is to correctly interpret Scripture. I don't think you should interpret the Bible based on your emotion as much as through the use of Greek to English lexicons, cultural context, concordances, etc.
@atrujillo9 Sorry of course, I was speaking of interperating the bible as a proffessional or on proffessional advice, I don't mean that we can all ignore hundreds of years work and decide what it means for ourselves. I meant somthing closer to "you can pick based on your own personal feeling from a range of well reserched theories and ideas".
In general there are about two or three different fairly credible interperatations of many parts of the boook and we can basicly chose safely from these.
If you give five people a Bible each, they will probably come up with five different interpretations. The Bible hasn't changed, what has changed is the prejudices of the person holding it. There is however, a correct intepretation
You're like a nudist who explains that nudity is obviously best because clothed people can't agree on a uniform. The fact that people disagree on things of the spirit doesn't imply that it's best to reject all spiritual things.
kmsoileau 1 month ago
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@kmsoileau "You're like a nudist who explains that nudity is obviously best because clothed people can't agree on a uniform. The fact that people disagree on things of the spirit doesn't imply that it's best to reject all spiritual things." Sorry but that's a straw-man argument. The fact that christians can't agree on what is true and what is not, is just one of the many arguments against theism, Zinnia has discussed.
thomaseshuis 1 month ago
@kmsoileau No its best to reject all thinks spiritual because to believe in anything outside of the natural world is dillusional and causes problems that have no reason to exist.
pharoahjimhotep 6 days ago
@pharoahjimhotep "Best to reject X" because "Believing in X is delusional" is circular reasoning.
"causes problems that have no reason to exist." Also circular, because it assumes spiritual things have no reality.
kmsoileau 6 days ago
@kmsoileau spiritual things dont have any reality they are a invention of man I have seen no proof that spiritual phenomena is nothing but a trick or a feeling in the brain but if something comes along that disproves that I will gladly modify my ideas
pharoahjimhotep 6 days ago
Religion and mythology are very much the same thing. Mythology is just "obsolete religion!"
The bible is an eclectic assortment of stories and advice for various people who lived at various times. Some is good advice, some bad. It's certainly not literally true and I find it incredible that anyone would believe that.
kierstencd 1 month ago
There is no agreed upon interperatation because there are different interperatations of anything that can possibly evoke emotion and this issue happens to evoke emotion in litteraly billions (once you count people of every faith that consider Christ to be divine, a prophet or a wise man. Ultimately so long as you can back up what you say and it isn't invalidated by other parts of the bible you can't be far off the mark. and yes there are many Christians who disagree, nothing wrong with that.
Llywellyn94 10 months ago
@Llywellyn94 I think you have to be careful with saying as long as you have it backed up. The entire purpose of hermeneutics is to correctly interpret Scripture. I don't think you should interpret the Bible based on your emotion as much as through the use of Greek to English lexicons, cultural context, concordances, etc.
atrujillo9 8 months ago
@atrujillo9 Sorry of course, I was speaking of interperating the bible as a proffessional or on proffessional advice, I don't mean that we can all ignore hundreds of years work and decide what it means for ourselves. I meant somthing closer to "you can pick based on your own personal feeling from a range of well reserched theories and ideas".
In general there are about two or three different fairly credible interperatations of many parts of the boook and we can basicly chose safely from these.
Llywellyn94 8 months ago
If you give five people a Bible each, they will probably come up with five different interpretations. The Bible hasn't changed, what has changed is the prejudices of the person holding it. There is however, a correct intepretation
FuroraCeltica 10 months ago
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brilliantly said as always, though Zinnia neglected to mention at the end that none of it really matters because religion is false anyway!
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