when i was a student pilot doing solo circuits, i was landing into sun, with stronger winds than that, done a perfect approach but when i flared it gusted, i got thrown to the edge of the runway, skidded like a bitch and did a go-around like one... thought i was gonna die, this isnt a half hearted thing u know
lucky you were in a sim, do you have any idea what that would have felt/looked like in the real thing? That would have scared the crap out of you, guaranteed. You need to cross the controls a bit more coordinated. more right rudder, less flaps, deeper bank angle. Good grief dont snap controls from left to right or reverse, you want to be smooth. if you can't hold centerline with full rudder deflection and opposite bank in the real world you can't handle the wind and must find another runway.
Man so many people here don't get that most pilots like MrPilot1230 and myself play flight simulator and fly in real life. If it was possible to fly every day in real planes I would, but because of the cost I can only afford to fly recreationaly 2-3 times a week. Flight Simulator just fills the gap, for me anyways...
Did you calculate the gust factor into that? Also compare it to the C172's POH that only recommends (by a test pilot) no more than a 15kt x-wind component for the aircraft? The wind Direction is only one of several factors.
nonono, you should have seen that flareing wasnt gonna pull off the landing, so you should of tried to hit the ground with all 3 wheels at the same time, i know its a sim, but cessnas are planes that only need gentle movements to be graceful in the air. (ya okay i said graceful, but do you want barf on the dashboard of you plane?)
A 30 knot wind at 20 degrees is only a 10 knot crosswind component. Still well within the max demonstrated, which is not a firm limitation like many other numbers in a POH.
@MrPilot1230 Well, "Mr. Pilot" the x-wind component on this landing is 10knots, well within the recommendations of the POH. So, acousticness is right, this is not a difficult landing by any means. Go learn something before you put a "cool" video on youtube
@MrPilot1230 - Gusting conditions do make any landing more challenging, but a 30 knot wind 20 degrees off the nose is only a x-wind component of 10 knots. Also, there isn't a "recommendation" of max x-wind, only max demonstrated. It even states in the POH that "this is not a limitation". I've taken off sideways in Mr. Cessna's fine little craft. Just sayin'
Don't forget to crank in upwind aileron as the aircraft slows, at that wind speed the wing is still flying a little. Don't wait to go around either if it doesn't feel controlled.
You go WAY to excessive on the rudder. You'd overstress the plane in real life. Rudder use is only required to recenter the plane on the centerline after crabbing, during your flare.
Use rudder to correct and opposite aileron to ensure the plane doesn't get carried away by sudden gusts. Rudder is not used for major directional changes; it is used for coordination, primarily.
Very in accurate comment. A cessna is very forgivable and it would not over stress the aircraft. One time i was taking a lesson and asked my instructor what would happen if i used full rudder in flight. He said go ahead. The plane yawed left and then pitched down. Please learn aerodynamics. Also rudder is used for wind correction while cruising. And sometimes you have to use alot. Its a GA plane not a jet.
Yeah, I'm gonna apply full right rudder, then left rudder over and over again and just see what happens. I'll do that my next lesson and see what my instructor says. I'm sure he'd love that. Not. That's exactly what he is doing here.
Sure, GA planes are forgivable, but only to a certain extent. Sure, I can apply full rudder and use it in flight. But why the heck would I want to risk stress to the aircraft by violently applying right then left rudder over and over again?
this just goes to show you why the FAA will not use a sim like this to count towards recurrency. Just imagine doing this for real trying to stay within the aircraft's rated performance. I love flight sim but doing it for real kicks but.
don't use your rudder until the end, use aileron to stay on center, and then when you get about 100-50 ft off the ground use rudder to swing the plane straight. i know for real life experience...lol.
To BestOneXD: Ya i know its not one of my best FS2004/FS9 landings but based on that comment i doubt you've seen any of my newer video's and/or REAL Flying videos that i have. This video is almost 2 years old dude if you havent noticed. Also note to self there are major differences in real flying vs Sim flying just incase you didnt know that.
you shoulda put it in to a side slip with that much cross wind. its a lot easier to control. where i fly out of we get 27kts with gusts of 30kts and its a lot smoother of a landing because you dont have to kick the tail out at the last second
Youtube needs to make a rule that computer gamers need to label their videos appropriately so those of us wanting to see REAL airplanes don't waste our time...
i don't want to get to the info.. i wouldn't have clicked on this stupid video if the TITLE had said FS2004.. get the dumbass sim shit off youtube. 1 star
If you don't wanna read the info when it explains what the video is, then its your problem. Don't watch the video then bitch about it not being "Real Life" when I EXPLAINED in the Video Info that it was in a Flight Simulator.
Mitgolden76, I guess I SHOULD have mensioned that I was trying to "Simulate" what it would have been like flying in that almost exact plane on a day that I didn't go flying in REAL Life because of those ACTUAL Winds & Weather. The Weather was out of my personal limits as a Licensed Pilot and also the POH's Maximum Demonstrated X-Wind airspeed to make a safe landing (which is 15kts in the 172R & S/SP). So there is good uses for Flight Sim other than just being a "Video Game" to some people.
I get what he ways saying. I am not a gamer but I am a pilot. I was looking for vids of crosswind landings.
A landing in a hard crosswind in a real airplane looks nothing like that. Down the runway with the ailerons, straight with your feet.... Of course with a tri-gear it's not that difficult anyway. Good 'ol land-o-matic.
No flaps landing with a strong crosswind is not bad advise. As per 172R skyhawk POH under crosswind landings....."Use the minimum flap setting required for field lenght" If you think that a no flap landing is dangerous then you need more time with your instructor.
Thanks for the comment on my video. It's definitely a cool flight. And I never said anything about it being dangerous, I frequently practiced no-flap landings during my primary training. I just said that it's not the best idea. If you're in a situation in which 20 degrees of flaps makes the landing more hazardous, you probably shouldn't even be flying that approach. Look for a different runway/airport.
Ya, they aren't the best ones I've done, but atleast now I sort of know what its like to fly with those strong winds because of my force feedback flight yoke.
18kt crosswind component...you would have made it down if you would have held that crab just a little longer...
nateba54 2 months ago
well, I gonna comment on this one.... flightsim, REALLY it was only 20 degrees crosswind... and this is a SIM... you couldnt work it out?
I'm not a good pilot by any definition of the word... but THAT was CRAP. If I pulled off a landing like that POS my funding would get pulled
VroodenTheGreat 3 months ago
that was a good landing, just not a good approach
AlfredoBallester 7 months ago
You're getting more dislikes because you're not putting "FS2004" in the title.
fs10inator 1 year ago
when i was a student pilot doing solo circuits, i was landing into sun, with stronger winds than that, done a perfect approach but when i flared it gusted, i got thrown to the edge of the runway, skidded like a bitch and did a go-around like one... thought i was gonna die, this isnt a half hearted thing u know
suburbianlegend 1 year ago
Try not be offended but that was shit.
papcrap2 1 year ago
oh ffs, could people please put some indication in the title to tell us weather or not this is real or flight sim :(
petaboil 1 year ago
try not slaming the controls around and hold your aileron into the wind. This will keep it going straight down the runway.
Jamesfromnyc 1 year ago
DORKS! Try a freakin' real plane instead of a video game!
Mrashnico 1 year ago
Did this in real life and better than this. Training, Training and Training. Please put sym in the title.
trydreamin 2 years ago
crosswind component? ; )
aviator147 2 years ago
Theory ?
kosketa 2 years ago
landing sideways is no fun. and whats funny is that i actually fly out of this very airport.
teddy3412 2 years ago
PUT SIM IN THE TITLE.
lucabrasi1337 2 years ago 9
If the runway is long enough, don't use flaps during a crosswind landing. Your groundspeed will be higher which means you will be in less of a crab.
txkflier 2 years ago
lucky you were in a sim, do you have any idea what that would have felt/looked like in the real thing? That would have scared the crap out of you, guaranteed. You need to cross the controls a bit more coordinated. more right rudder, less flaps, deeper bank angle. Good grief dont snap controls from left to right or reverse, you want to be smooth. if you can't hold centerline with full rudder deflection and opposite bank in the real world you can't handle the wind and must find another runway.
CyberP07 2 years ago
that hurt to watch!
eagle416 2 years ago
I've actually flown in conditions like this in a C-152. I was at KALW landing runway 20. The wind was 220 @ 21 gusting 29. It was a rush!
surferalbinokid 2 years ago
go around?
TheJohnnyboy23 2 years ago 2
Man so many people here don't get that most pilots like MrPilot1230 and myself play flight simulator and fly in real life. If it was possible to fly every day in real planes I would, but because of the cost I can only afford to fly recreationaly 2-3 times a week. Flight Simulator just fills the gap, for me anyways...
AirRavers723 2 years ago 2
wind 300, runway orientation 320...
thats not too bad of a crosswind component
acousticness 2 years ago 2
Did you calculate the gust factor into that? Also compare it to the C172's POH that only recommends (by a test pilot) no more than a 15kt x-wind component for the aircraft? The wind Direction is only one of several factors.
MrPilot1230 2 years ago 2
nonono, you should have seen that flareing wasnt gonna pull off the landing, so you should of tried to hit the ground with all 3 wheels at the same time, i know its a sim, but cessnas are planes that only need gentle movements to be graceful in the air. (ya okay i said graceful, but do you want barf on the dashboard of you plane?)
foopy6 2 years ago
@MrPilot1230
15kt is only the maximum demonstrated crosswind, this is not "bad" crosswind.
STYLEMONSTERS 1 year ago
@MrPilot1230
A 30 knot wind at 20 degrees is only a 10 knot crosswind component. Still well within the max demonstrated, which is not a firm limitation like many other numbers in a POH.
michaelb1579 1 year ago
@MrPilot1230 Well, "Mr. Pilot" the x-wind component on this landing is 10knots, well within the recommendations of the POH. So, acousticness is right, this is not a difficult landing by any means. Go learn something before you put a "cool" video on youtube
david27peters 1 year ago
@MrPilot1230 - Gusting conditions do make any landing more challenging, but a 30 knot wind 20 degrees off the nose is only a x-wind component of 10 knots. Also, there isn't a "recommendation" of max x-wind, only max demonstrated. It even states in the POH that "this is not a limitation". I've taken off sideways in Mr. Cessna's fine little craft. Just sayin'
GingBread 7 months ago
Don't forget to crank in upwind aileron as the aircraft slows, at that wind speed the wing is still flying a little. Don't wait to go around either if it doesn't feel controlled.
caseyjones2222 2 years ago
You go WAY to excessive on the rudder. You'd overstress the plane in real life. Rudder use is only required to recenter the plane on the centerline after crabbing, during your flare.
Use rudder to correct and opposite aileron to ensure the plane doesn't get carried away by sudden gusts. Rudder is not used for major directional changes; it is used for coordination, primarily.
SuperdicaFlyer 2 years ago
Very in accurate comment. A cessna is very forgivable and it would not over stress the aircraft. One time i was taking a lesson and asked my instructor what would happen if i used full rudder in flight. He said go ahead. The plane yawed left and then pitched down. Please learn aerodynamics. Also rudder is used for wind correction while cruising. And sometimes you have to use alot. Its a GA plane not a jet.
bananasfoster2 2 years ago
Yeah, I'm gonna apply full right rudder, then left rudder over and over again and just see what happens. I'll do that my next lesson and see what my instructor says. I'm sure he'd love that. Not. That's exactly what he is doing here.
Sure, GA planes are forgivable, but only to a certain extent. Sure, I can apply full rudder and use it in flight. But why the heck would I want to risk stress to the aircraft by violently applying right then left rudder over and over again?
SuperdicaFlyer 2 years ago
Oh, and inaccurate is one word. :) Never take advice from people who have no idea what they are talking about....
SuperdicaFlyer 2 years ago
@SuperdicaFlyer trust me its really hard to overstress a cessna
ilikechile 1 year ago
this just goes to show you why the FAA will not use a sim like this to count towards recurrency. Just imagine doing this for real trying to stay within the aircraft's rated performance. I love flight sim but doing it for real kicks but.
unclefester420 2 years ago
Agreed very much. :)
MrPilot1230 2 years ago
don't use your rudder until the end, use aileron to stay on center, and then when you get about 100-50 ft off the ground use rudder to swing the plane straight. i know for real life experience...lol.
jdatt2634 2 years ago
Thanks but I know that too. I do have my pilots license and have been flying for 5yrs and over 200hrs of flight time.
MrPilot1230 2 years ago
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BestOneXD 2 years ago
To BestOneXD: Ya i know its not one of my best FS2004/FS9 landings but based on that comment i doubt you've seen any of my newer video's and/or REAL Flying videos that i have. This video is almost 2 years old dude if you havent noticed. Also note to self there are major differences in real flying vs Sim flying just incase you didnt know that.
MrPilot1230 2 years ago
RUDDER MAN ! ! ! ! !use your rudder also
panics86 2 years ago
how do you get the thing that red typing in the top left
Lukeanator192 2 years ago
Shift + Z to bring it up and to get rid of it.
MrPilot1230 2 years ago
Practice, Practice, Practice. Low wing into wind.
ljackso 3 years ago
SRY but shit landing
qpwoalskzmx 3 years ago
you shoulda put it in to a side slip with that much cross wind. its a lot easier to control. where i fly out of we get 27kts with gusts of 30kts and its a lot smoother of a landing because you dont have to kick the tail out at the last second
mtrain999 3 years ago
I wouldn't have used flaps with that much crosswind....even if it was only 10 degrees
MDukeFirst 3 years ago 2
I would have used that much flap just I would have increase airspeed times 1.3
aLmOsTSK8ar 3 years ago
people seem to be fucking retard....they're overreacting
is their time so important that they cannot see a fligh simulator video??
just don't worry...I think the video was fine...ah.....nice landing, by the way
guilleory 3 years ago 4
Thankyou! Finally someone with some common sence. :)
MrPilot1230 3 years ago
hahah...I also have that game dude
those comments anoyed me too :D
guilleory 3 years ago 4
Youtube needs to make a rule that computer gamers need to label their videos appropriately so those of us wanting to see REAL airplanes don't waste our time...
s5traut 3 years ago
If you READ the Info it says FS2004 which means its FLIGHT SIM not Real Life. Reading helps you know.
MrPilot1230 3 years ago
i don't want to get to the info.. i wouldn't have clicked on this stupid video if the TITLE had said FS2004.. get the dumbass sim shit off youtube. 1 star
mitgolden76 3 years ago
If you don't wanna read the info when it explains what the video is, then its your problem. Don't watch the video then bitch about it not being "Real Life" when I EXPLAINED in the Video Info that it was in a Flight Simulator.
MrPilot1230 3 years ago
the title mis-represents the video. this isn't a "cross-wind landing in a skyhawk". its a video game.
mitgolden76 3 years ago
A lot of us simmers are also real pilots so i would suggest not leaving comments like that, it only makes you seem very very immature.
1085oliverda 3 years ago 5
Mitgolden76, I guess I SHOULD have mensioned that I was trying to "Simulate" what it would have been like flying in that almost exact plane on a day that I didn't go flying in REAL Life because of those ACTUAL Winds & Weather. The Weather was out of my personal limits as a Licensed Pilot and also the POH's Maximum Demonstrated X-Wind airspeed to make a safe landing (which is 15kts in the 172R & S/SP). So there is good uses for Flight Sim other than just being a "Video Game" to some people.
MrPilot1230 3 years ago
I get what he ways saying. I am not a gamer but I am a pilot. I was looking for vids of crosswind landings.
A landing in a hard crosswind in a real airplane looks nothing like that. Down the runway with the ailerons, straight with your feet.... Of course with a tri-gear it's not that difficult anyway. Good 'ol land-o-matic.
JonJon95GT 3 years ago
@1085oliverda are you a real pilot?
deerkillawv 1 year ago
It might be FS2004 (As said in the info), but it's still a skyhawk landing, real or not, so don't waste OUR time by making stupid comments! Good vid!
florianvandillen 3 years ago
try not using flaps for a strong crosswind landing.
mybad67 4 years ago
You could do that, but you would have to bring up your airspeed to between 65kts and 75kts for a no flaps landing.
MrPilot1230 4 years ago
In a Cessna 172R and 172SP that is.
MrPilot1230 4 years ago
65 knots no flaps is fine, unless the winds are gusting. then you want to carry extra speed. 1/2 the gust factor
mybad67 4 years ago 2
That's pretty bad advice. You might want to pull the flaps back to 20 or something but not using flaps at all on any landing isn't a good idea.
RockMancuso 3 years ago
No flaps landing with a strong crosswind is not bad advise. As per 172R skyhawk POH under crosswind landings....."Use the minimum flap setting required for field lenght" If you think that a no flap landing is dangerous then you need more time with your instructor.
mybad67 3 years ago
Thanks for the comment on my video. It's definitely a cool flight. And I never said anything about it being dangerous, I frequently practiced no-flap landings during my primary training. I just said that it's not the best idea. If you're in a situation in which 20 degrees of flaps makes the landing more hazardous, you probably shouldn't even be flying that approach. Look for a different runway/airport.
RockMancuso 3 years ago
awesome LANDING! GOod thing you didn't crash...hehe
good job!
JoelFrenchdude 4 years ago
Not the smoothest landing, but you pulled it off. Good job man.
KiaKing 4 years ago
Ya, they aren't the best ones I've done, but atleast now I sort of know what its like to fly with those strong winds because of my force feedback flight yoke.
MrPilot1230 4 years ago